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[QUOTE=MrHo;2437529]This 1000 euro quota is the number I often heard from girls I became mildly friend with in FKK, they often say something like, I want to make 1000 today.

These girls often has kid, family and also even loverboy / pimp they have to pay to, so I guess making less than 1000 is not worth doing it after the deduction? Who knows.[/QUOTE]Yes, girls who think they are pretty want to make 1000 on best days = Friday, Saturday, Sunday for some clubs. Kate made 20/25 rooms at Velbert for this. At Globe, they want to make at least 1500 CHF when they give 20 on 140 for tax.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2437444]Please do let us know if it's a good read. Might like to purchase it myself.[/QUOTE]I got it and read it last night. Really good, fast read, and very funny in places. The part near the end about Nicolae Ceaușescu is hilarious.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2437519]Please know that these Romanian girls lie so much to the extent they even tell us they are Spanish or Italian with fluent Romanian language skill LOL!

So book may begin with I am from Spain or Italy LOL![/QUOTE]You have no idea how right you are Ho!

[QUOTE=BaconSandwich;2437438]So this popped up in my news feed:

[URL]https://www.issuewire.com/former-prostitute-publishes-tell-all-book-about-the-german-sex-industry-1662146774474888[/URL]

Does anyone know who this girl is? No idea if it's her real photo or not, or what club (s) she might have worked in.

I'll get the book, which might come close to tiding me over during the shutdown of everything.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrHo;2437557]Went for 60 euro session for 30 min and got full package all inclusive because girl was new to the club. DFK, DATY, Rimjob on my anal and hers, fucking in all positions, putting finger in her ass while doggy etc. Basically what I like doing especially rimming my anal for free is often nice bargain for me and it happen quite few times in 10 years, but not every year.

However, after I go back, girls learn the system and some of the service will be extra like rimjob is usually become 50 euro extra, which is understandable LOL.

It sometimes get worst too, like hmmm ok, Geraldine from Hungary in Artemis as she is now retired. When she joined all was included in 60 euro session as described in first paragraph including rimming me, but as she spend her time in Artemis, it became 150 euro one hour all inclusive for awhile and eventually it became 50 euro more if I want rimjob on me, then eventually she only began flying in for one old client who book her all day for few days while she fly in. Well, by the time that happen I had enough of her licking my anal that I did not care too much, but memories I bought, it is priceless LOL!

Usually fresh new girl to the industry or FKK set up or escort or such gives you outstanding service as long as you lead them and ask them to do things, answers are usually yes. They did not get polluted by art of upselling yet.[/QUOTE]Girls are really right when they say we are very different and we are really different. I never asked any of my real life girlfriends to suck me, only 2 last did, last just kissing, not even sucking, and previous did while I was sleeping because I refused. For sure, I never asked any to lick my ass. With prostitutes, I don't even ask them to suck me, they can choose if they want to give me back, usually saying: now your turn for pleasure, after my DATY. How could I enjoy to kiss a girl after she licked my ass, just killing desire for me. Had great rooms without being sucked, but with erotic foreplay and great kissing and fucking. Only point I ask sometimes, when I have doubt about how the girl is looking at me when we introduce to each other, is about kissing and if she doesn't answer a real yes, then I never insist, because I don t want to be frustrated in room, and I know I missed super sexy Denisa at Amesia who told me she was afraid to kiss me because she was afraid to fall in love. Rather than explaining her kissing and making love in bed is not real love, I should have taken her to room, when she told me later I refused to go with her, foreplay with her, made her cum and I m pretty sure she would have kissed me, my mistake, but I don t like to need to get, I prefer to receive. Fortunately, usually when I see how girls look at me while introduction, I don t even need to ask, like with German Tabea at Sharks on my last FKK visit, such passionate for sex and kissing, I felt this at first sight when I saw her walking with her friend. Receiving is so much more enjoyable for me than begging. No grocery for sex, just killing desire for me.

[QUOTE=BaconSandwich;2437644]I got it and read it last night. Really good, fast read, and very funny in places. The part near the end about Nicolae Ceaușescu is hilarious.

You have no idea how right you are Ho![/QUOTE]I don't think most Romanians were laughing much under Ceacescu. Fortunately for them, girls we meet don't know what was this sad time for their country, their freedom, their safety. I was shocked how they shot him and his old wife for Christmas 1989.

[QUOTE=BaconSandwich;2437438]So this popped up in my news feed:

[URL]https://www.issuewire.com/former-prostitute-publishes-tell-all-book-about-the-german-sex-industry-1662146774474888[/URL]

Does anyone know who this girl is? No idea if it's her real photo or not, or what club (s) she might have worked in.

I'll get the book, which might come close to tiding me over during the shutdown of everything.[/QUOTE]I bought this book (it's really just a short story -- about 60 pages) about a Romanian girl who works in a club near Dusseldorf for about a decade before being rescued by one of the club regulars who is Canadian. It's actually worth a read and well written and what she writes will be familiar to anyone on ISG who goes to German FKKs. In the beginning she says she has changed place names and people's names to make herself and others anonymous so I'm not sure if she was really in one of the Dusseldorf clubs. From the description of the club and its fictional name (Il Paradiso) it seems it was more likely Club Paradise in Stuttgart but it could easily have been Palace too or Sharks etc. Its value is that it gives an honest view of the girl's POV which is interesting and also makes one realize how relatively poor Romania is and how much money these girls actually make. My respect for these girls has only grown. I wonder if her 'saviour' the 'Canadian' is someone on this forum?

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;2437517]Nobody was telling her to make $1000 per day. She could have been happy with $400 or even $200 if she wanted to give her pussy more leisurely or lazier day. My guess is that this book would be more sensationalist than necessary if she's trying to say what hasn't been said.[/QUOTE]It's worth the quick read. She says she had to give 50% of her earnings to the pimp so 500 a day was minimum what she needed to earn: 20 per night for shared accommodation, 50 for club entry and then whatever she makes she loses half basically. According to the author in her best ever month she made 14 000 euros after paying half to the pimp. That's a lot of money!! That's like a 1000 euros a day.

If a client books you for 2 hours. That 200 plus say CIM that's 250 from just one client. Anal would be 100 extra. So doesn't have to be 10 a day! Mr. Ho, funny thing is she mentions going for Asians because they are not so demanding, polite, and have lots of money!

LOL. The saddest aspect of the book is how an innocent girl on her first day soon becomes a hardened pro.

We've all on ISG seen the transformation.

[QUOTE=BaconSandwich;2437644]I got it and read it last night. Really good, fast read, and very funny in places. The part near the end about Nicolae Ceaușescu is hilarious.

You have no idea how right you are Ho![/QUOTE]I downloaded the sample, seemed very familiar. It's worth the purchase?

I saw some statistics regarding trust in other people within different populations of Europe, and unfortunately Romania scored the lowest by far. Only 7% of the population trusted other people, while some of the highest scoring nations; Scandinavian countries and the Netherlands scored 80-85%. This trust issue is probably a key driver in psychological relations related to p6 as well, and should be taken into account when reading books written by Romanian girls.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2437649]Girls are really right when they say we are very different and we are really different. I never asked any of my real life girlfriends to suck me, only 2 last did, last just kissing, not even sucking, and previous did while I was sleeping because I refused. For sure, I never asked any to lick my ass. With prostitutes, I don't even ask them to suck me, they can choose if they want to give me back, usually saying: now your turn for pleasure, after my DATY. How could I enjoy to kiss a girl after she licked my ass, just killing desire for me. Had great rooms without being sucked, but with erotic foreplay and great kissing and fucking. Only point I ask sometimes, when I have doubt about how the girl is looking at me when we introduce to each other, is about kissing and if she doesn't answer a real yes, then I never insist, because I don t want to be frustrated in room, and I know I missed super sexy Denisa at Amesia who told me she was afraid to kiss me because she was afraid to fall in love. Rather than explaining her kissing and making love in bed is not real love, I should have taken her to room, when she told me later I refused to go with her, foreplay with her, made her cum and I m pretty sure she would have kissed me, my mistake, but I don t like to need to get, I prefer to receive. Fortunately, usually when I see how girls look at me while introduction, I don t even need to ask, like with German Tabea at Sharks on my last FKK visit, such passionate for sex and kissing, I felt this at first sight when I saw her walking with her friend. Receiving is so much more enjoyable for me than begging. No grocery for sex, just killing desire for me.[/QUOTE]Me, I do all with most beautiful girls siri, and I like doing most dirtiest thing with most beautiful girls. It is my thing and rimming is one of the thing I enjoy doing. I mean looks beautiful young girl who is like half of my age is cleaning my anal with her mouth do turn me on, it is the only toilet I found better than Japanese toto washlet toilet LOL! Romanian organic washlet toilet and German organic washlet toilet are better, I know this for sure LOL.

I do that to my ex to, I don't tell all ex or tutes to suck me, sometimes, but it is normal thing women do, and if they don't suck me especially in FKK, it is big problem, I fly half the way around for to get my dick sucked and my anal licked among other thing LOL. Passport control knows that LOL!

I like to receive and I also like to offense, and I stopped smoking up in club, so I remember more without THC in my blood system. I do jogging daily, work out twice per week and I do not drink alcohol, but I begin to drink shot glass of plum wine during dinner for my health, especially my blood circulation.

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2437676]It's worth the quick read. She says she had to give 50% of her earnings to the pimp so 500 a day was minimum what she needed to earn: 20 per night for shared accommodation, 50 for club entry and then whatever she makes she loses half basically. According to the author in her best ever month she made 14 000 euros after paying half to the pimp. That's a lot of money!! That's like a 1000 euros a day.

If a client books you for 2 hours. That 200 plus say CIM that's 250 from just one client. Anal would be 100 extra. So doesn't have to be 10 a day! Mr. Ho, funny thing is she mentions going for Asians because they are not so demanding, polite, and have lots of money!

LOL. The saddest aspect of the book is how an innocent girl on her first day soon becomes a hardened pro.

We've all on ISG seen the transformation.[/QUOTE]I am polite, and as for demanding, I don't have strong fetish beside I want her to give rimming to my anal, but other than that, I am not demanding at all, but if it is not good session, I am walking out at 29th minute and pay 50 for most clubs or 60 euro for Artemis depending on the rate of the club.

However, as for money thing, I am also so as other mongers are mild victim of some of these guys who pay up too much to the level of rip off, then girls automatically think most mongers are inexperience, naive and stupid. I am willing to pay 150 euro per hour or 100 euro for 30 min for full service like DFK, BBBJ, DATY etc. , but if it is not delivered or asked for more, it is not the deal that serve both parties, so some mongers who pay too much to the level of rip off is having negative affect on all other mongers actually. And sadly, most stunner of stunner I found tend to be in near city club like Palace or Artemis, so it make me negotiate hard all the time in room which make me feel like I am doing deal making business rather than relaxing holiday. In those moment, it make me feel like just go to globe, where there is no negotiation and service is delivered and lately prices are in similar range almost.

[QUOTE=Beeoch;2437534]Everyone, do you think when the world gets back to normal after COVID19, that there will be changes to the FKK clubs either by the girls denying certain services, or some sort of law change?[/QUOTE]There will be fewer clubs because some may not survive and there is always the possibility of increased taxes to pay for all the expenditures.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2437549]No, the opposite is true.

Covid-19 is not sexually transmitted. The transmission would occur as easily with "safe" sex as it would for GFE.

[URL]https://www.verywellhealth.com/sex-dating-covid-19-4800097[/URL]

Abolition and The Nordic Model are First World issues that exist in the best of economic times, when people listen nonstop to feminist intellectuals (and to the men who strangely love them, like that make leader of the German Social Democrats who wears those a John Lennon glasses), because they don't have enough to do with their time.

When this cyclone of shit finally ends, the focus will be on improving the devastated economies of the world, not destroying an activity that contributes positively to the economy. And with all the stimulus debt that is being incurred worldwide, there will not be an allocation of funds available for increased law enforcement aimed at 'vices".[/QUOTE]Are you referring to Norbert Walter-Borjans?

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2437811]Are you referring to Norbert Walter-Borjans?[/QUOTE]I probably got the political party wrong, but I was referring to this guy. The one that looks a bit like Saul in Better Call Saul.

[URL]https://www.pro-medienmagazin.de/politik/2019/09/27/lauterbach-fordert-prostitutionsverbot/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Beeoch;2437534]Everyone, do you think when the world gets back to normal after COVID19, that there will be changes to the FKK clubs either by the girls denying certain services, or some sort of law change?[/QUOTE]Depends on the financial strength of some of these owners. If some owners can't ride over these closures, what happens to them? Some other owner will take over or will it close? Tough to say. If any owner can't keep paying mortgage and any other taxes etc, they may keep it closed and keep talking to their bankers and whoever else provides the financing to them and work out the terms.

When will they open? If Germany gradually reopens their economy, whenever that happens, will they let every business open up at the same time? Doubt that. Various businesses may open in a staggered manner, even if they all shut at the same time. Fuck clubs would not be in any politicians priority list of essential services, although we mongers may disagree.

And then I don't know how many girls will return back. Logically they all should because they must have been starving for money. But my guess is, at least some sizable fraction of previous girls will never come back.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2437823]I probably got the political party wrong, but I was referring to this guy. The one that looks a bit like Saul in Better Call Saul.

[URL]https://www.pro-medienmagazin.de/politik/2019/09/27/lauterbach-fordert-prostitutionsverbot/[/URL][/QUOTE]Soon, we will be told to wear condom on each fingers of ours when mongering in FKK LOL!