German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2437828]Depends on the financial strength of some of these owners. If some owners can't ride over these closures, what happens to them? Some other owner will take over or will it close? Tough to say. If any owner can't keep paying mortgage and any other taxes etc, they may keep it closed and keep talking to their bankers and whoever else provides the financing to them and work out the terms.

When will they open? If Germany gradually reopens their economy, whenever that happens, will they let every business open up at the same time? Doubt that. Various businesses may open in a staggered manner, even if they all shut at the same time. Fuck clubs would not be in any politicians priority list of essential services, although we mongers may disagree.

And then I don't know how many girls will return back. Logically they all should because they must have been starving for money. But my guess is, at least some sizable fraction of previous girls will never come back.[/QUOTE]OK, then, it is time to structure the United Ho Hedge fund to gather funds to buy out the bankrupt FKK club LOL! It will be called FKK Ho! LOL!

I think most clubs are OK, their cost to run is not that much considering it is closed, so electricity, water bill are low and just employees, but they employ like around 25 people in big club, much less in small club. Remember, girls are customers too, they even pay more than us.

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2437672]From the description of the club and its fictional name (Il Paradiso) it seems it was more likely Club Paradise in Stuttgart but it could easily have been Palace too or Sharks etc. [/QUOTE]It sounded like either Palace or Paradise to me too, based on the description. I've only been to Paradise once, but I seem to remember stairs up to the rooms there, like she describes, which I don't recall at any other clubs. It's probably impossible, but it would be fascinating to know if a report had ever been written about her here.

[QUOTE=BaconSandwich;2437438]So this popped up in my news feed:

[URL]https://www.issuewire.com/former-prostitute-publishes-tell-all-book-about-the-german-sex-industry-1662146774474888[/URL]

Does anyone know who this girl is? No idea if it's her real photo or not, or what club (s) she might have worked in.

I'll get the book, which might come close to tiding me over during the shutdown of everything.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BaconSandwich;2437908]It sounded like either Palace or Paradise to me too, based on the description. I've only been to Paradise once, but I seem to remember stairs up to the rooms there, like she describes, which I don't recall at any other clubs.[/QUOTE]Sharks, Harmony, Artemis, and Samya all have "stairways to Heaven". Could be more, but those are a handful that I know of. But, given where she says the club was located and other descriptors, the "stairway to Paradise" sounds like a good bet.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2437912]Sharks, Harmony, Artemis, and Samya all have "stairways to Heaven". Could be more, but those are a handful that I know of. But, given where she says the club was located and other descriptors, the "stairway to Paradise" sounds like a good bet.[/QUOTE]Artemis. The only better stairways to heaven than Led zeppelin LOL!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2437767]I saw some statistics regarding trust in other people within different populations of Europe, and unfortunately Romania scored the lowest by far. Only 7% of the population trusted other people, while some of the highest scoring nations; Scandinavian countries and the Netherlands scored 80-85%. This trust issue is probably a key driver in psychological relations related to p6 as well, and should be taken into account when reading books written by Romanian girls.[/QUOTE]I do not even trust the nationalities they claim to be, so why the hell do I believe in their book LOL.

The good thing is that, Romanian tute in FKK are actually female, they don't lie about that, they are not shemale, that is true, and it is good thing to know LOL!

[QUOTE=MrHo;2437924]I do not even trust the nationalities they claim to be, so why the hell do I believe in their book LOL.

The good thing is that, Romanian tute in FKK are actually female, they don't lie about that, they are not shemale, that is true, and it is good thing to know LOL![/QUOTE]I let you imagine how girls who are nothing when they don't make money, in Romania, can trust lazy guys with many peste / pimps. Many Romanian real beauties to who I asked if they have BF, answered me: with my job I can't, so I told: I mean at home, then you don't have and better not to tell him, then they answer: but I have to protect my money. On the other hand, my best ever FKK girl spent her whole first month to buy a car to her ex husband who became a peste / pimp. Really sad and she told she was angry to have to return so fast because she needed money. I wish her to keep her money for her.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2437912]Sharks, Harmony, Artemis, and Samya all have "stairways to Heaven". Could be more, but those are a handful that I know of. But, given where she says the club was located and other descriptors, the "stairway to Paradise" sounds like a good bet.[/QUOTE]It can't be Sharks, Artemis or Samya. She talks about how the club must account for such a huge part of the tax base of their little town. Darmstadt, Berlin and Koln are not little towns.

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2437676]It's worth the quick read. She says she had to give 50% of her earnings to the pimp so 500 a day was minimum what she needed to earn: 20 per night for shared accommodation, 50 for club entry and then whatever she makes she loses half basically. According to the author in her best ever month she made 14 000 euros after paying half to the pimp. That's a lot of money!! That's like a 1000 euros a day.[/QUOTE]From the discussions on this forum, the book definitely sounds interesting and I wish I could buy a copy, but sadly it would be prudent for me to avoid any record of such purchase.

The 500 number is interesting, I assume the author explains why she needed roughly 250 euros per day (after the 50% cut by the pimp)? The direct expenses only come out to 20 + 50 = 70, so I guess part of the remaining 180 are going to savings or family or [NOPARSE]...[/NOPARSE] ?

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2437676]If a client books you for 2 hours. That 200 plus say CIM that's 250 from just one client. Anal would be 100 extra. So doesn't have to be 10 a day! Mr. Ho, funny thing is she mentions going for Asians because they are not so demanding, polite, and have lots of money![/QUOTE]Instead of tracking the number of customers, approximate working hours required might be a better measure. Assuming no extras, to make 1000 euros a day would require 10 hours with customers. Depending on the day and the girl, this doesn't seem to be easy. 5 hours (corresponding to the 500 euro daily minimum), on the other hand, doesn't seem so unreasonable, and I would be interested to hear from the more informed members on how many hours on average girls can usually expect per day.

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2437676]LOL. The saddest aspect of the book is how an innocent girl on her first day soon becomes a hardened pro.

We've all on ISG seen the transformation.[/QUOTE]Agreed that this is probably the saddest part indeed. I wonder what proportion of the girls can retain some of their innocence and remain trusting after having worked in this industry, even after they quit. As much as I enjoyed the club experiences, in the few instances I realized this happening, I've found them to be profoundly disturbing.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2437699]I downloaded the sample, seemed very familiar. It's worth the purchase?[/QUOTE]May I ask where one can find a sample? Or is this referring to the Amazon preview? I am very curious to know what the working girls see and think / feel, but does not want to leave a record of having purchased this book.

[QUOTE=CuriousExplore;2438036]May I ask where one can find a sample? Or is this referring to the Amazon preview? I am very curious to know what the working girls see and think / feel, but does not want to leave a record of having purchased this book.[/QUOTE]It's the preview.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2438032]It can't be Sharks, Artemis or Samya. She talks about how the club must account for such a huge part of the tax base of their little town. Darmstadt, Berlin and Koln are not little towns.[/QUOTE]Another way to unravel this is to think about "Ricky. " There can't be a ton of model-level tattooed patrons into drugs at the clubs. An WG OD'd and wheeled out, that would also have been an event that would not have gone unnoticed.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2437549]
When this cyclone of shit finally ends, the focus will be on improving the devastated economies of the world, not destroying an activity that contributes positively to the economy. And with all the stimulus debt that is being incurred worldwide, there will not be an allocation of funds available for increased law enforcement aimed at 'vices".[/QUOTE]Interesting take and answer to the original question. Prostitution is as old as man himself. It won't end because of this disaster. Possible upsides: a lot of very pretty girls who would never have turned to this will be in poverty, desperate to escape it and we could very well see an influx of new girls of a high standard. Whilst that wouldn't stop girls of a lesser standard also joining the pretty girls always get the punters first.

However I agree that many clubs won't survive at all. I know of 2 girls already who have taken the view that this was the trigger for them finally to stop. They, like many girls want to but find it impossible. Time will tell if they are strong enough to stick to it. But the number 13 is relevant to kicking a habit and if these girls can survive beyond 13 weeks (and the virus will outlive that by months) they may truly escape the vicious circle.

I can see prices increasing from the girls but the clubs may reduce to re-attract attention. That said I can see the pre 2017 law very much being the state of affairs. Girls will need the money and won't be willing to play hardball on services.

There will be two categories of guys. First the many who suffer financial hardship from this and can no longer financially pursue their pleasure. That will drive many away from the clubs. But the second category is the opposite. Those who have enough money (or more from shorting markets and making big gains) who take the view that life really is shorter than they expected, the virus may return or be annual in which case they will want to "fill their boots" by enjoying as much pleasure as their bodies can endure and will be happy (excuse the pun on my nick) to payforit.

For those of us who survive this. And who knows how many of us will do that. It will be a very interesting period. Fingers crossed all ISG punters will escape the scourge.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2437306]It seems that my Brazilian honey is no longer speaking to "her angel" now that I have told her "no" twice LOL![/QUOTE]Just spoke with my girl by app. She claims she hasn't been around because her sister is in the hospital with pneumonia, and that she herself is self-isolating because she's experiencing mild coronavirus symptoms. The truth, or attempting to set me up for a third ask for money?

This book that is being "advertised" on this forum was definitely not written by a Romanian girl. I mean, many of the Romanian words are spelled wrong and at least one Romanian word includes a letter that isn't even part of the God Damn Romanian alphabet! In one place, a gender mistake is made with a Romanian word that would never have been made by a Romanian girl.

Don't waste your money on this book. It's nothing but drivel and over-exaggerated stereotype stories.

It's definitely some tripe written by a guy who thinks he knows what it's like to be a Romanian sex worker.

I regret spending $2. 99 on this crap "book. " Even more than that, I really regret the wasting my time that I can never get back reading this drivel.

Take my advice and pass on this so-called "book. ".

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2438058]This book that is being "advertised" on this forum was definitely not written by a Romanian girl. I mean, many of the Romanian words are spelled wrong and at least one Romanian word includes a letter that isn't even part of the God Damn Romanian alphabet! In one place, a gender mistake is made with a Romanian word that would never have been made by a Romanian girl.

Don't waste your money on this book. It's nothing but drivel and over-exaggerated stereotype stories.

It's definitely some tripe written by a guy who thinks he knows what it's like to be a Romanian sex worker.

I regret spending $2. 99 on this crap "book. " Even more than that, I really regret the wasting my time that I can never get back reading this drivel.

Take my advice and pass on this so-called "book. ".[/QUOTE]Is she Spanish or Italian with fluent Romanian language skill? LOL!