Nairobi

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[QUOTE=John Palmer; 1275898]They have a bug allow to download the full chapter instead of preview. Its include maps, hotels etc. They will fix the problem soon.

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Click on preview the chapter and you will get all of it.[/QUOTE]Great Work John. Well Done. Invaluable and Free.

[QUOTE=Donnachaa;1276005]Great Work John. Well Done. Invaluable and Free.[/QUOTE]Yes, second that, just read it cover to cover.

Getting the impression they like the River Road area for Bars. Any monger action?

[QUOTE=Biffa;1276029]Getting the impression they like the River Road area for Bars. Any monger action?[/QUOTE]Yes, but typically for locals only. Dicey area. If you choose to partake, sure hope you make friends easily.

[QUOTE=John Palmer; 1275898]They have a bug allow to download the full chapter instead of preview. Its include maps, hotels etc. They will fix the problem soon.

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Click on preview the chapter and you will get all of it.[/QUOTE]Thank you Sir,

I will be there in just a few days now. (My FIRST visit!)

I am rather looking forward to it.

Hotman.

[QUOTE=Coalburner69;1276096]Yes, but typically for locals only. Dicey area. If you choose to partake, sure hope you make friends easily.[/QUOTE]Fairly easily. Specially the ladies.

How dicey, comparatively speaking? How does the dicey-ness manifest itself?

I do monger on my own. I like it that way. I can hold my beer and I'm not frightened of the usual shebeens, I wouldn't go anywhere thats so dark I can't see who's approaching. I wouldn't follow ladies down very dark allies, suspecting her brothers will get the drop on me. I don't carry valuables and I have 20 dollars in my socks if the worst comes to the worst.

Roughest I've seen is "Chechnya" in Addis in Ethiopia. I've had to toss vagabonds out of bars after they tried to put hands in my pockets.

Reason I keep asking is I was disappointed by the streetwalker count in Koinange Street on my last visit. I was down the Simmers, Chester House end, so maybe I wasn't looking in the right places? Hence my desire to find some target-rich environment.

Just back from Mtwapa. The place was cool, but probably due to low season, I have not seen really beautiful girls. Lots of fat.

Now in Nairobi, I took a slim beautiful girl from Madhouse (lots of fat there too). Gave her 1500 for a shirt time, she was quiet angry and tried to get more but I didn't give up. Decided not to go back.

I switched on to Tagged. I was quiet surprised by the low reply rate, given the fact I'm 30 and not bad looking at all. Met several girls, but had sex only with one of them. 2 of them didn't want to make love and another 3. I didn't want to. Decided to forget about Tagged, 'cause many of the girls look beautiful on the photos but not in the real life, lots of time and money lost for nothing.

Today switched to a street hunting. I target only beautiful girls in uptown / downtown. Up to now: Approached 1 beauty who turned out to be an air hostess, she didn't seem to be interested at all. Two other girls just snobbed me in a really bad way. I was polite. Many girls just walk with a 'don't bother me' look and don't smile back. Kind of surprised. I will continue anyway.

I would appreciate if someone gave advice on where and how it's better to approach girls in Nairobi during DAYTIME, up to 9pm. The fact is night hunting is not for me.

By the way, uptown / downtown seem to be secure untill 11pm, I've never taken a taxi. Hope nothing bad will happen.

If someone wants to join my street hunting, just pm me.

[QUOTE=Afaire;1279816]I would appreciate if someone gave advice on where and how it's better to approach girls in Nairobi during DAYTIME, up to 9pm. The fact is night hunting is not for me.[/QUOTE]Nairobi is a city good for Business man. You can get very frustrated while girls will trick you. Move to kampala uganda, sign to Afro dating and adopt multy strategy instead of switching between them. Trust me you will get more sex then you can dream without the frustration. Nairobi and its girls is like a casino, they always win.

[QUOTE=Biffa;1276406]How does the dicey-ness manifest itself?[/QUOTE]In the usual African way. You would (could) be followed (in numbers) and mugged. Possibly even killed. If you do elect to go, at the bare minimum, have a dedicated driver who waits for you outside of each establishment. Avoid walking. Even short distances.

[QUOTE=Afaire; 1279816]Just back from Mtwapa. The place was cool, but probably due to low season, I have not seen really beautiful girls. Lots of fat.

Now in Nairobi, I took a slim beautiful girl from Madhouse (lots of fat there too). Gave her 1500 for a shirt time, she was quiet angry and tried to get more but I didn't give up. Decided not to go back.

I switched on to Tagged. I was quiet surprised by the low reply rate, given the fact I'm 30 and not bad looking at all. Met several girls, but had sex only with one of them. 2 of them didn't want to make love and another 3. I didn't want to. Decided to forget about Tagged, 'cause many of the girls look beautiful on the photos but not in the real life, lots of time and money lost for nothing.

Today switched to a street hunting. I target only beautiful girls in uptown / downtown. Up to now: Approached 1 beauty who turned out to be an air hostess, she didn't seem to be interested at all. Two other girls just snobbed me in a really bad way. I was polite. Many girls just walk with a 'don't bother me' look and don't smile back. Kind of surprised. I will continue anyway.

I would appreciate if someone gave advice on where and how it's better to approach girls in Nairobi during DAYTIME, up to 9pm. The fact is night hunting is not for me.

By the way, uptown / downtown seem to be secure untill 11pm, I've never taken a taxi. Hope nothing bad will happen.

If someone wants to join my street hunting, just pm me.[/QUOTE]Welcome to Nairobi. Sadly your 'first impressions' of the city might be the ones you leave with. As you're finding out, the mongering options there are limited and are almost non-existent during the daytime.

I could sit here and give you some other daytime suggestions like malls, cellphone shops, universities, etc, but the results would probably be no better than what you're currently doing.

In Hindsight, the on-line thing probably would have been your best bet had you started it in advance of your trip and had used other sites in addition to Tagged, like Afrointroductions and maybe Afrogems.

I don't know how much time you have left on your trip, but if I were you, I'd be on the next Fly540 flight to Kampala.

Coalburner69 and John Palmer,

Thanks for your advice. I think I've been misleaded by some posts about how easy it's to get non-pros in Nairobi.

Today I continued my quest, one more girl snobbed me (I start to hate it) , the second one was nice, we had a tea but she was too shy to do anything so I quit. And the only one who was really nice and also beautiful turned out to be from Rwanda. I'm meeting her tomorrow.

By the way she said she really doesn't like Kenya, she said these are people without heart. She told me to go to Rwanda, Tanzania or Uganda.

So I think I will probably follow your advice. But I don't know if I can fly to uganda from kenya without a yellow fever certificate.

So, you are saying women are sweeter and nicer in Uganda? I know, Africa is not for romantic people, but since one month in Kenya I really start to feel some kind of hunger for tenderness.

[QUOTE=Biffa;1270797]Yes that's right. And your point is?[/QUOTE]My point 'Biffa" is I thought that I could have used this as a means of meeting men but why'all are not even close to meeting my standards.

[QUOTE=Afaire; 1279816].

Today switched to a street hunting. I target only beautiful girls in uptown / downtown. Up to now: Approached 1 beauty who turned out to be an air hostess, she didn't seem to be interested at all. Two other girls just snobbed me in a really bad way. I was polite. Many girls just walk with a 'don't bother me' look and don't smile back. Kind of surprised. I will continue anyway.[/QUOTE]Weird guy hitting in women on main street gets snubbed. Well. What do you expect? You seem to think you are god's gift to woman-kind. Maybe, just maybe, the women you are hassling have full lives and don't want to be bothered by some guy when they are trying to go about their business.

Grow up.

This message applies to a lot of guys on this board. Is it easier to pick up women in East Africa compared to the States or Europe? Yes. Are there numerous reasons for this? Yes. Does that mean that every woman you think is sexy enough is immediately going to go back to your cheap hotel room and give you a blow job? [blue][Racial Epithet(s) Deleted by Admin][/blue]

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[QUOTE=Afaire;1280328]So, you are saying women are sweeter and nicer in Uganda? .[/QUOTE]Yes! Kenya ladies are Business oriented. Uganda is more like the "real africa". I am about to buy a ticket for July.

No yellow card are required.

[QUOTE=Afaire; 1280328]Coalburner69 and John Palmer,

Thanks for your advice. I think I've been misleaded by some posts about how easy it's to get non-pros in Nairobi.

Today I continued my quest, one more girl snobbed me (I start to hate it) , the second one was nice, we had a tea but she was too shy to do anything so I quit. And the only one who was really nice and also beautiful turned out to be from Rwanda. I'm meeting her tomorrow.

By the way she said she really doesn't like Kenya, she said these are people without heart. She told me to go to Rwanda, Tanzania or Uganda.

So I think I will probably follow your advice. But I don't know if I can fly to uganda from kenya without a yellow fever certificate.

So, you are saying women are sweeter and nicer in Uganda? I know, Africa is not for romantic people, but since one month in Kenya I really start to feel some kind of hunger for tenderness.[/QUOTE]Yes, you have indeed been mislead. Most recently, by that Kenyan girl who recommended Rwanda and Tanzania, Nevertheless, you can still change your situation in just one day should you elect to do so.

You can make a same day booking on fly540 from NBO to EBB (Entebbe, Uganda) for $145 USD. It's less than a hour flight. When you arrive, there's a $50 USD visa fee (good up to 90 days) and they will not ask you for a yellow fever cert. At least that's my experience. If, for some unforeseen reason they do, a small bribe will sort that out in short order.

Upon exiting the terminal, negotiate a 50k shs (about $20 USD) taxi ride into Kampala (about 45mins). There are many hotel options there and reservations are rarely required. For hotel and entertainment info you can peruse the Uganda thread on this site.

You've demonstrated the ability to approach girls and withstand rejection. Don't lose this ability now. Yes, the women are sweeter and nicer in Uganda, but in non-pro settings you will still have to be the aggressor, but you will achieve better results. Guaranteed.

Stop wasting time pounding the pavement in Nairobi. Book your ticket to Uganda now and spend your remaining time there on your laptop or at the internet cafe getting contact numbers in Kampala from the sites previously mentioned.

Get-er-done!