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[QUOTE=XMan;2005988]** "till morning". I had one gal agree to stay "till morning". She decides to leave about 2 am. When I remind her about our agreement, she replies, "It is morning. " Hate it when that happens.[/QUOTE]I hate that kind of crapola too. My response is to tell her it is ok to leave but that I will pay her later in the morning so come back and get your money (but you will have to earn it).

[QUOTE=Marshmallows;2005758]Folks. I have RTFF for a while. Several days actually. But I am no closer to getting some answers, therefore this direct reach out for help and information.
I am in Manila for only one night and staying at the Marriott Resirt World.
Thank you in anticipation. Please inbox me if you can.[/QUOTE]Come on. There comes a time when you have to step out. As the big H says just go to EDSA. Pick one, you know the prices, you know the deal. I would stay away from Backpage etc, even pimps & outcalls. I have found much more success dealing direct with the girl. Cut out the middle man (who wants a cut anyway).

2 guys going to be in manila 1 night in June. Fly in late, get food, straight to EDSA, back to hotel nearby, leave in morning = easy.

As to our friend who has 1 week. Come on. Venture out. Do your research here- we all have stuffed up. When you're in a new place I think half the excitement is the anticipation of new experiences.

Seek and you will find!

[QUOTE=Kodanana;2005800]Thanks for this.

How about a first timer in Manila, I'll stay for a week and will spend most of the time in BGC. Any tips would very much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Are you there for business or fun? I presume business, which usually means an early start to the day.

BGC doesn't have any places like EDSA, LA Cafe, or Burgos. The good news is there are a few great nightclubs, but keep in mind these also attract well-to-do locals, many of whom are young and fit. Of course there are women working the scene, many of whom are wanna-be models (some legit ones too), air hostesses, condo saleswomen, and the like who are looking to land a bloke who will elevate her financial status for longer than a couple of days. Aspirational girls.

BGC does have other merits if you're good with chatting up the girls working in shops. They don't get hit on to the extent girls working at Robinson's or the Makati malls do. There are several call centres in and near Market Market, so you'll see groups of them (look for the ID badges) in cafes and fast food places during their breaks. Most of these girls are educated well enough to converse without difficulty, and being surrounded by wealth tends to influence them, both for good and bad. This is all mobile numbers collection for after work meetings. Most of the call centre girls work the graveyard shift, so they're available for morning meetings if you aren't busy.

The bad news is being an older foreigner with a few bob in your pocket doesn't carry the same cachet here as it does at LA Cafe or Exclusiv. When a club attracts a lot of sex-seeking foreigners older than 35 or so it develops a reputation and the well-heeled start to shun it and their hangers on follow; it may astonish readers to learn young wealthy beauties aren't enchanted by a leering 55-year-old shouting "How much for a long time?" on the dance floor. (I know, right!? You'd think they'd be grateful. Nightclub lighting tends not to show off my dazzling green eyes.) This is what happened to Icon at the Intercontinental Hotel in Makati years ago. This is not to say there aren't opportunities, but just that the hook-up dynamic at BGC clubs is more like a nightclub in London or NYC. In BGC clubs rules 1 and 2 apply more so than elsewhere in the city.

Frankly, one may have an outstanding time in Manila without bothering with the BGC nighclubs at all. Your closest commute from BGC is to Burgos.

[QUOTE=Pompetus;2006085]I hate that kind of crapola too. My response is to tell her it is ok to leave but that I will pay her later in the morning so come back.[/QUOTE]My 2 cents. I agree this is not on BUT have found this to be fault of lack of communication.

When we meet after small talk, first tell her what you want, tell her how much ST & LT will be (to me ST is min 2 hrs and LT (I never do) is at "X" o'clock next morn) then tell her how much you are prepared to pay.

By telling her how much it does 2 things. Lets her know you are in control here and lets her know you know the prices. I never say " how much?" I also slip in " hey I'm a nice guy and I will treat you well but if you BS me you will get nothing".

I always buy them a drink too to show I will spend $ on them that can't be recuperated. Negotiation can occur at this point but if I hint an air of I have a golden pussy and I can command this much = goodbye.

GPG's (Golden pussy girls) I have found to be poor performers anyway. So just stipulate time.

Before I leave the meeting point I do a recap again. So you are staying for. , it will cost. And you will do.

Remember it is a business transaction. Make this your standard MO. (* proviso. I go to some places in the world where I tell the girl come with me and it is all understood but this is not the norm).

[QUOTE=Pompetus;2006085]I hate that kind of crapola too. My response is to tell her it is ok to leave but that I will pay her later in the morning so come back and get your money (but you will have to earn it).[/QUOTE]Better to tell her upfront in the bar right after you agree on price that the funds will be hers the next morning at time you specify. Flush out in the open in advance any intentions to be a runner. And make sure she knows you're not joking.

[QUOTE=XMan;2005988]** "till morning". I had one gal agree to stay "till morning". She decides to leave about 2 am. When I remind her about our agreement, she replies, "It is morning. " Hate it when that happens.[/QUOTE]I prorate their money to their time. If she departs halfway thru her time with me, I hand her half the agreed-upon money. Offer to let her come back at her agreed upon departure time to chat the issue with you.

Also, if its a bargirl and there are waitresses or mama on the premises, always run thru your list with the mama and in front of the girl, including her departure time. I'll bet very few gents do that.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2006086]2 guys going to be in manila 1 night in June. Fly in late, get food, straight to EDSA, back to hotel nearby, leave in morning = easy.[/QUOTE]There is actually a small food court inside EDSA Entertainment where you can eat. Or you can order from a menu in an EDSA bar but it would be rude not to share with the hungry girls. I'm not saying it is the best, but it is Filipino food so it is what it is. Fried stuff, yakisoba, etc.

Fellas I was looking to stop by in Manila for a quick 3 nights hitting the ground running before I visit Thailand. I wanted to know the best area to stay an hotel recommendations that are girl friendly. I have done Angeles City numerous of times before when visiting the Philippines but is time to do something different any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks.

Hi fellas,

At first, thanks for stuffing the forum with all the gems of reports and info which led me to all the research I required to do Philippines for the first time. Here's my country to the community.

Day 1, Wed:

Landed on Wed afternoon, spent the day sleeping and getting used to the place. Staying at the Red Planet, QC since I am more of a MP guy than the bar hunting one.

Day 2, Thu:

Started connecting with girls on OK Cupid, Pina love etc. Hooked up with one of them, promised to meet at a nearby mall. Turned out to be a nice girl with great manners and total GFE material. Not a stunner look wise but made me very comfortable. Went on a date, touched around a bit, didn't seem to mind. Parted way with a promise to meet the next day again.

Went to Queen's Chambers on Quezeon Avenue. What a place! It's a must go place for anyone starting off with the KTV experience. Took a girl called MM into one of the rooms. Within a few minutes, we got kissing, groping, and touching her all over.

Came back to the hotel and crashed out.

Day 3, Fri:

Woke up 3 missed calls and 10 texts from the girl I met the second day. Met her at a LRT station, she was more than keen to come to the hotel with me. Brought her over. No issue with the hotel, no walk of shame, got into the room smoothly. In 15 minutes, we were trying different positions and having a great time. See her off after 3 hours. Was wondering what to do, when going to another massage parlor seemed like a good idea. Went to Classmates / Kremlin this time. Chose a petite little sweetheart from the fishbowl. Turns out it's her 3rd day in the business and she's more than willing to make me happy. Have a great massage session followed by "boom boom". Damages: 1100 for the room, 1500 for the girl.

Have 2 more girls lined up through the dating apps for next few days. Let's hope for the best.

To be continued.

[QUOTE=OopsBoy;2006288]Hi fellas,

At first, thanks for stuffing the forum with all the gems of reports and info which led me to all the research I required to do Philippines for the first time. Here's my country to the community.

Day 1, Wed:

Landed on Wed afternoon, spent the day sleeping and getting used to the place. Staying at the Red Planet, QC since I am more of a MP guy than the bar hunting one.

Day 2, Thu:

Started connecting with girls on OK Cupid, Pina love etc. Hooked up with one of them, promised to meet at a nearby mall. Turned out to be a nice girl with great manners and total GFE material. Not a stunner look wise but made me very comfortable. Went on a date, touched around a bit, didn't seem to mind. Parted way with a promise to meet the next day again.[/QUOTE]Great report and great to know a newbie can get around for the first time.

[QUOTE=OopsBoy;2006288]Went to Classmates / Kremlin this time. Chose a petite little sweetheart from the fishbowl. .[/QUOTE]Where in Manila is this place?

Classmate KTV and Kremlin Spa are found on Quezon Avenue in Quezon.

[QUOTE=Amjeck;2006319] Where in Manila is this place? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amjeck;2006319]Where in Manila is this place?[/QUOTE]Google says it is in the kremlin building on Quezon Ave. My curiosity is also piqued.

[QUOTE=PanaNyc;2006253]Fellas I was looking to stop by in Manila for a quick 3 nights hitting the ground running before I visit Thailand. I wanted to know the best area to stay an hotel recommendations that are girl friendly. I have done Angeles City numerous of times before when visiting the Philippines but is time to do something different any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks.[/QUOTE]Never ever heard of a hotel in Manila which are NOT girlfriendly (I am sure there are a few like hotels connected to some religious org but you won't hit them in Makati, BGC, Pasay, Ermita, Malate, Paranaque etc using normal bookingengines aka Agoda, [URL]Hotels.com[/URL], Expedia etcetc). By the way most of the fun places would be in areas listed above. You have some up in Quezon as well but I don't think you will go there bcs mostly it cater to the cheating local pinoy crowd. On the other hand, if you like KTVs and hanging with the locals, who knows.

Hotels; Just remember to book for 2 persons as some hotels can have a joiner fees. If you do so you can at least bring one girl without they claim you to pay mentioned fee. I have brought 1-3 girls without never having a problem. Makati around Green Belt would be my recomandation. Hotels would be Fairmont Makati, Shangri-la Makati or New World Makati (from 5-7 k php and up). Yes no problem taxiing or Ubering to Burgous if bargirls your thing. Others will recomend hotels to you in Burgos I am sure but that area is not my style. Mentioned hotels would be approx 400php using white cab from the airport. Using the skyway it should take you from 15 to 30min taxitime from T3. Time of arrival will be of some concern but not anymore due to mentioned skyway. T2 and T1 arrivals add a few minutes(look at an online map)..

Areas; Makati provides you Burgous and Greenbelt. Burgous bar-/ massage- and FL girls. Green Belt and next to a club called Havana you have loads of FLs as well. Watch out for LBs. EDSA in Pasay have a girliebar complex. I believe a hotel called Heritage Hotel is across the street from this complex. Along the Manila bay, still in Pasay, you have dancingbars / KTVs. Running along the bay towards Ermita and Malate you will in the two latter mentioned areas find KTVs, LA Cafe (LAC- freelancers place 24/7), massageplaces and FLs (Robinson shoppingmall being mentioned). Happy poonin, I am out.

As I have read throughout the forum, it seems like the Philippines is, together with Thailand, the place to be for cheap mongering. The likes of Angeles, Burgos, Malate and EDSA entertainment center seems to be the places of concentration especially for foreigners. It is because the Philippines is like a tale of 2 mongering cities. 1 for foreigners and 1 for locals. I'm sure you guys know a lot about the scene for foreigners so Ill try to give my thoughts on the local scene. If this has been done, I'll just add my thoughts.

The Local scene has more to do with MPs, KTVs and SPAs. MPs are the easiest and most convenient because sans the traffic, you're done in 30 minutes to an hour at fairly reasonable rates and you don't have to worry about a room or rubber. Its all there. KTVs are more expensive due to LD and if you want to have fun, the VIP rooms are much more expensive. But a lot of these places, you can still get the job done without leaving the place. Now spas have become more popular across the metropolitan area. Most of them won't have sign boards, so I'm not sure how people find them outside being members of some local adult oriented fora. The problem with spas is that they can get more expensive than MPs with half of the service. Anything more than a HJ will cost the same if not more than most MPs. I actually think that the rise of these spas has lead to the decline of MPs.

Escorting has also been on the rise the last decade. And unfortunately, so has inflation. A lot of these girls think so much of themselves that a lot price themselves higher than the hotties at Brix. And these are mostly local clientele girls. The popularity of the DSLR a few years back has borne too many "photographers" that demanded "models" for photoshoots. So these "models" have inflated the market for themselves. A so-called model can demand $200 or even up to $500, and sometimes just because a girl is friends with a popular car show model makes her think that she can charge almost the same rate as their friends.

Really tough. That's why sometimes, when I leave for Singapore or Shanghai, paying SG $300 for hotties at Brix isn't so bad. Even with the drinks cab etc, would come out cheaper than what we would be paying back home.

BTW, we locals have a stereotype that a lot of foreign Western men like what we call the "exotic" (dark skinned) types more than the lighter skinned oriental / Eurasian types. I know that it doesn't hold true for everyone, but if guilty, do you think the quality in the foreign market area in the Philippines equal the quality of girls in places like Brix in Singapore or Beach Club in Shanghai?