German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2438694]Speaking of German women which clubs has the highest amount of German women working before the Coronavirus pandemic? I read Atmos has plenty of them and Artemis has more German women working there in the past, but what about other clubs?[/QUOTE]Atmos have usually 10/15 girls, like Harmony South Hamburg. Among girls, maybe 3/5 Germans, when many Germans in this business come from Hamburg. Few, 5/7 at Sharks, and some at GT but less than before and they needed to move Romanian girls from LR. But Germans at GT or Sharks are not often beauties, even Tabea was a good surprise at Sharks, unfortunately starting on 14 March. Few also and wow model Leana at Palace. Few Germans at Globe, Amesia. Ch.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2437532]With all the doom and gloom going around and no current field reports, why don't we post our favorite FKK experience. First time? Epic BBBJ? True 10? Whatcha got?[/QUOTE]When I can claim I had most of the prettiest and superstars I saw, and most became my regulars with my behavior, I had the perfect woman at World weekly for 1 year, I had models, I had Hessen legend and I didn't need to run after her at Globe where she was busy superstar, because she came to me saying: I know how you treat me, she proposed me for diner and I often refused to go with her, even I loved Kate. But my best experiences, because best for me is always when as close as possible to my real life experiences, I try to live again a bit what I didn't have enough time to live, so when I find virgin beauties without silicon, tattoos, piercing, I like only on belly, no botox nor acid, looking like what I call normal woman, not a stolen car like many Germans in this business, then this miracle make smile my eyes and mind. And my 2 best experiences with about 80 hours with both, were to make improve, like I did with my real life girlfriends, Kate at Velbert and my LR Eve for me. At the beginning, I had to work quite hard to make Kate changing for me, because I think I was so different from others for her, but as she is lovely, she changed and such enjoyment to get this from her and I remember some of her very woman reactions, even out of room or club. Even low level on our first room, but Eve impressed me with her manners and behavior for me and she became fast my best student for erotism, sensual foreplay, the closest to my real life girlfriends experiences. Why Eve? Because forbidden fruit in Eden garden, when Daria came to tell me I deserved better, she didn't behave the same when I was not at LR, but at least she tried to behave like a woman, for me, when I was there. And of course because I can t afford to name my best girls, because of many guys in this business who are full of jealousy and frustration. After killer virus, as since a while, I wish to find a interesting attractive beauty, unfortunately very rare for me, and even if I have to work again to make her improve for me, best would be for me to go only with one, because closest to real life, so, best for my mind, even only in club, I never answered to meet outside or to go to Romania. Other delightful manners was from a LR quite crazy and wild in lounge, but real beauty, and after she threw me in face in lounge her towel because she noticed we were talking about her with another member, but when I went to sit to bring her back her towel, when took her hand and felt her reaction, when looked at her french manicure feet nails, I thought maybe I would succeed to make her becoming woman for me, and we repeated weekly for months, and I remember she prepared me sandwich when we finished after pizzas. Also had great enjoyment with some who didn't want to go with me, but ran to me after. I remember Kim. Ro at GT asking me: Are You a bad guy? Maybe what she was told in bullshit land. Why You look at me so much? She could stop room after 30 mn or even less, but 1 h30 and when she was not new in business, but she lost so much control, far from only at work. I also remember how Kity. Hu or maybe more ro, was upset about me when I didn't succeed to make her cum. Making cumming, but not porn moaning, is interesting for me because woman reaction, a bit of truth and not difficult to know if really true or not, and then, girls don t look at You anymore in same way. My subjective experiences and wish to live again.

[QUOTE=MythoVirus;2438534]I don't see a bright future regarding FKK for this year at least, 2020 will be the year FKK was deserted or even eliminated.

First is first, I'm not a pandemic expert, and for sure I don't predict the future. So all what I say should be taking with grain of salt.

As the SARS-Cov2 (aka Coronavirus) can never be contained as it's a pandemic right now. The only weapon right now is community immunity (aka Herd immunity) which is achieved once 60-80% of worldwide population has an immunity against this virus.

This immunity can come either from getting infected by the virus or via vaccine. Vaccine is the ideal way to protect the community however it will not be ready before spring 2021, so no FKK till then.

Or if we let the community to get infected to reach 60-80% then you have 2 options. The first option which is frowned upon is letting all get exposed to virus till the virus has no where to spread to as everyone will have it, this method is not accepted as it burdens medical care resulting in high mortality rate. The second option which seems safer is flattening the curve, to get less people infected over a short time, this method is basically what every country in the world is implementing however in order to reach the 60-80% of immunity will takes months and months and months.

I know all what I stated above is basically repeating what we all know, but if you put it into FKK future perspective then it is grim at best..[/QUOTE]I think you live in USA. Germans (except for some "enlightened" folks) have no taboo about FKKs or prostitution, that's why they have so many FKKs all around the country. Same in Switzerland. German FKKs will open the same time the German schools, pre-schools, colleges etc will open, for which the current plan is by early May (Government has asked school administrators to disinfect their facilities in the meantime and get ready to open by then, probably FKKs are also getting the same notices but unfortunately I don't know any FKK administrator at this point). Let's see how all this goes, but I think FKKs will be back to normal by summer, though some international travellers may still be missing due to all the fear mongering going on, which might be better for the local patrons. Webcamming never did or will pay anything close to what girls usually make in a real club. Also, some girls really love the real sex in their job, albeit probably less than 50% of all FKK girls, most of them will come back quickly for sure money and sex. I personally don't care about the other in-it-only-for-money girls anyway, so they better stay away instead of giving poor service.

The King of Thailand is self-isolating with 20 girls at Grand Hotel Sonnenbichl in the German town of Garmisch-Partenkirchen, where he has booked the entire hotel! So much for self-isolation, but kudos to him for creating his on FKK club in this difficult times LOL!

[URL]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-thailand-king-maha-vajiralongkorn-grand-hotel-sonnebichl-germany-a9431936.html[/URL]

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Web cam work is pretty competitive and the anonymity the girls often want is gone if they do cam work. Also I think women like to out compete each other face to face in clubs for money and attention and that thrill is not available without live interaction.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2438701]Some good points here, though depressing. Another worry I have is that all the girls will go webcamming, and they will get so comfortable with that they won't want to go back to selling the real thing, whatever remains of the FKKs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2438701]Some good points here, though depressing. Another worry I have is that all the girls will go webcamming, and they will get so comfortable with that they won't want to go back to selling the real thing, whatever remains of the FKKs.[/QUOTE]I asked a girl in Sharks about webcam work and she said she'd never do it in case someone from her town or that she knew saw her on the webcam. If times get desperate she might change their mind I guess.

Right. And those videos can exist forever. Clubs keep people pretty well hidden.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2438851]I asked a girl in Sharks about webcam work and she said she'd never do it in case someone from her town or that she knew saw her on the webcam. If times get desperate she might change their mind I guess.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2438880]Right. And those videos can exist forever. Clubs keep people pretty well hidden.[/QUOTE]Yes, and webcam is very expensive.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2438338]I know what happen in France and French doctors who are usually not so bad still tell children are not in big danger about virus despite this death, she might have a unknown problem. East France close to Germany and Switzerland is in big trouble because of lack of beds in this part of France. About 93, north east district around Paris, when you know a bit about, real jungle and I worked there to close part of buildings, to destroy some buildings, under CRS army protection, starting at 5 am and finishing at 11 am, many of this population don't respect rules, so unfortunately they get from what they are and as always, more problems when poverty. But I think, even not a competition, but NYC is the down under place at the moment, when I trust French doctors. Will also see about virus back at home.[/QUOTE]Over a quarter of 4632 (updated now) are not 93.

[NOPARSE]I also worry that men and women generally (not just in P4P) will reduce physical contact, both because of this pandemic and fears of future pandemics. Fertility rates were already way down worldwide @Pistons; this is another major blow. The next generation will be the Baby Bust generation and there won't be much of it. Only Africa will be left.[/NOPARSE]

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2438040]It's the preview.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the reply. I read the Amazon preview and it was interesting, hence was hoping I could find a longer sample.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2438819]I think you live in USA. Germans (except for some "enlightened" folks) have no taboo about FKKs or prostitution, that's why they have so many FKKs all around the country. Same in Switzerland. German FKKs will open the same time the German schools, pre-schools, colleges etc will open, for which the current plan is by early May (Government has asked school administrators to disinfect their facilities in the meantime and get ready to open by then, probably FKKs are also getting the same notices but unfortunately I don't know any FKK administrator at this point). Let's see how all this goes, but I think FKKs will be back to normal by summer, though some international travellers may still be missing due to all the fear mongering going on, which might be better for the local patrons. Webcamming never did or will pay anything close to what girls usually make in a real club. Also, some girls really love the real sex in their job, albeit probably less than 50% of all FKK girls, most of them will come back quickly for sure money and sex. I personally don't care about the other in-it-only-for-money girls anyway, so they better stay away instead of giving poor service.[/QUOTE]Speaking of culture t's not taboo in Germany per say, but I'm not talking about your average German, Europe as a whole in the last 25 years or so, country by country started to stray away from allowing prostitution to flourish, IE from the Nordic model. Amsterdam De wallen day by day showing tactics from the government to suppress prostitution. Germany implementing the 2017 new prostitution could be an early sign of prostitution demise in Germany. The rise of feminist and other obsolete groups fighting it, which can put pressure on politician and ultimately the government, and also the frequent connection of prostitution with trafficking, pimping, drugs and STDs, so yeah it's not as taboo in Germany for the time being but certainly it's not universally accepted.

No I don't come from US. But I do come from a more closed culture than US, but that's irrelevant as I myself don't consider it a taboo.

Your statement that FKK clubs will be back to normal the time schools are back on track, it made my day. I sincerely hope you are correct, although it might sound immature or pathetic, but the reason I wake up everyday to grind at work, is that so the end of the month I can enjoy 2-3 days in FKK clubs. It's my drug. Yes there are incalls, escorts, street hookers, strippers, other brothels, but nothing comes even close to an FKK, that's why I tend to worry, as it is precious to me.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2438886]Over a quarter of 4632 (updated now) are not 93.[/QUOTE]Around Paris, only Seine Saint Denis, 93 district, is in trouble and this is unfortunately normal to have problems there, like always, even without virus. Unfortunately, today first day over 400 deaths in France. But when I work with authorities since 2 weeks to try to re start production on this week, wish for tomorrow, being responsible in front of the law if one of my guys catch virus when working, shame of France is a claimed engineer was caught when we has stolen 2 machines to help to breathe to save lives, trying to sell them for 450 € each, amazing shameful. Also new business stealing masks, breaking nurses cars to steal few masks, just a shame for these guys, wish those caught will be prosecuted when my risk if one of my guy is badly sick, and the worst, now people asking nurses who are at risk for their job, they don't dare yet about doctors because they think they can need them when they are in panic, to stay away from them, when everybody should kiss their feet to take risks keeping on curing us, most for low earning. When France have one of the highest level of education and for medical, but some are really a shame for France and 93 district is on top for this, even many very courageous people living there.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2438911][NOPARSE]I also worry that men and women generally (not just in P4P) will reduce physical contact, both because of this pandemic and fears of future pandemics. Fertility rates were already way down worldwide @Pistons; this is another major blow. The next generation will be the Baby Bust generation and there won't be much of it. Only Africa will be left.[/NOPARSE][/QUOTE]I agree this is a serious problem today, will be even bigger problem in future. And top of them, gays and lesbians are not producing babies; so more people turns to be homosexuals, less the population counts in the future generations.

I have a simple solution though: Makes condoms illegal for healthy adults. We all will get a "healthy" card from the doctors (like the WGs get in Austria), and cops can random check the cards. Five years jail for both the guy and the girl, if they both are found healthy. All FKKs must be AO only. If you want to use condoms, you must prove to the Theke that you are not "healthy" for AO.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2438851]I asked a girl in Sharks about webcam work and she said she'd never do it in case someone from her town or that she knew saw her on the webcam. If times get desperate she might change their mind I guess.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2438880]Right. And those videos can exist forever. Clubs keep people pretty well hidden.[/QUOTE]According to this site there are 200,000 webcam models just in Romania, so there is no shortage of people willing to show their face on camera: [URL]https://www.dw.com/en/romanias-thriving-sexcam-industry/av-45106909[/URL].

I would say being a webcam model carries significantly less stigma than being a WG. Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I believe most webcam models NEVER meet their clients in person nor do they engage in partnered sex on camera. So it is a relatively "innocent" profession compared to being WG. Another consideration is that many WGs are young and do not think about the consequences of their actions. Or they come from the wrong side of the tracks and honestly don't care about how society views them. Past few years, I have seen many former or current FKK girls being advertised on escort agency websites, and their faces are not blurred.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2438911][NOPARSE]I also worry that men and women generally (not just in P4P) will reduce physical contact, both because of this pandemic and fears of future pandemics. Fertility rates were already way down worldwide @Pistons; this is another major blow. The next generation will be the Baby Bust generation and there won't be much of it. Only Africa will be left.[/NOPARSE][/QUOTE]Even before this pandemic, millennial have been having less sex (subsisting on porn, webcamming, free mutual masturbation sites). Tinder might have only reversed the trend ever so slightly. [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/21/millennials-sex-stressed-young-people-worry[/URL].