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I haven't been on the forum for quite a while. What happened to all the posts about the club that was opened by one of the owners of the mansion. Did they close down. Is Medellin better or about the same from 2011, which was the last time I went. Any new places that are now popular.
Thanks
[QUOTE=BlackPage;1633346][URL]http://www.eluniversal.com.co/sucesos/detienen-en-miami-un-estadounidense-por-proxenetismo-173989[/URL]
A question comes to my mind. I thought prostitution is legal in Colombia (see the number of grills). Then, what is the felony of "proxenetism" exactly? Doing that without official license?[/QUOTE]"proxenetism" is pimping which is also illegal.
[QUOTE=HelpRules;1633863]I haven't been on the forum for quite a while. What happened to all the posts about the club that was opened by one of the owners of the mansion. Did they close down. Is Medellin better or about the same from 2011, which was the last time I went. Any new places that are now popular. Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you are talking about Liquid Lounge, they did open, got off to a rocky start, then the main owner killed himself:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3546-LIQUID-STRIP-[/URL].
Last we heard is that they have closed the club and the other owners are selling the assets.
If you are talking about La Cueva a*k*a "The Cave" (the bar at the mansion), it has been a success IMO (I have stayed there a few times and was never disappointed with the selection available). The only thing that has changed is the owner (Robert left; new owner is a guy named Charlie).
The Mansion, a*k*a "Casa Blanca", a*k*a "Hotel Medellin Plaza" is now called "Hotel M".
Other than maybe a few casa closures and name changes, everything is the same.
[QUOTE=HelpRules;1633863]I haven't been on the forum for quite a while. What happened to all the posts about the club that was opened by one of the owners of the mansion. Did they close down. Is Medellin better or about the same from 2011, which was the last time I went. Any new places that are now popular. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I would say it is about the same, in some ways it has gotten more saturated with foreigners and the girls are more in tune to that, but at the same time most girls say on the whole business is a little worse. There is still a ton of competition and great action to be had at reasonable prices if you keep your head about you and know some Spanish.
One favorable thing vs 2011 is the exchange rate. I recall at times it dipped down to 1750-ish pesos to the dollar around that time period. It is now once again firmly above 2000, about 2050 pesos to the dollar, which is the best it has been in at least five years.
There are new MPs and MPs that have changed hands. Also some reorganization among the strip clubs and a couple new ones, including one "upscale" one in Lleras owned by the Bar Maracaibo guys. Some of the new MPs are cool, just hit the Centro and start walking to find them (using the map is also helpful).
Overall you will find a city that is gaining conveniences (but also gaining traffic, both in terms of roads and tourism). It won't be a lot different from your last trip three years ago overall though.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1633903]If you are talking about Liquid Lounge, they did open, got off to a rocky start, then the main owner killed himself:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3546-LIQUID-STRIP-[/URL].
Last we heard is that they have closed the club and the other owners are selling the assets.
If you are talking about La Cueva a*k*a "The Cave" (the bar at the mansion), it has been a success IMO (I have stayed there a few times and was never disappointed with the selection available). The only thing that has changed is the owner (Robert left; new owner is a guy named Charlie).
The Mansion, a*k*a "Casa Blanca", a*k*a "Hotel Medellin Plaza" is now called "Hotel M".
Other than maybe a few casa closures and name changes, everything is the same.[/QUOTE]I stayed at the Mansion once. I remember all the girls would hang out at the pool. Did they make the cave, so the neighbors wouldn't complain anymore from all the noise. Is the Australian still the owner of the Mansion.
[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1633689]Though the age of legal consent is 14 years of age, you cannot have sex with a minor for money.[/QUOTE]The legal age of consent is still the age of consent in your home country no matter where you go!
[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1633251]I was actually focusing on the huge potential Medellin have to become a a place for producing pornography.
Brazil has made it and are today a big contributor.
US produces 25.000 scenes a year of HQ pornography.
Medelllin, with it's acceptance for beautiful prepagos and easy and open lifestyle about sex; Can it become a center for producing HQ pornography?
Then I added that many girls likes doing it, but yet not all the way. Today in the US it has exploaded into +100 niches and maybe 25.000 is an underestimation.
Medellin have an enourmous amount of sexy young girls, 80% are younger than 35 yo of the close to 2 million females in the metropolitan area.
Wages and total prodution costs should be a lot lower than Brazil.
No matter who is the winners and loosers etc, I just see that here are a potential; Medellin is Colombia's Barcelona that have / had PRIVATE, it's the same entrepreurial mentality here![/QUOTE]South America is by and large mostly Catholic. Although prostitution is accepted, it should not be flaunted which is why pornography will always be a grey area.
Gentlemen,
I'm going to be in Medellin for the first time from 10/19 - 10/24 and am staying at Hotel M. I'm guessing I'm going to spend a lot of time in La Cueva but would like to check out the strip clubs / casas and pull some girls back to my room from there. Are there any organized tours that hit these spots from Hotel M or is my best bet to ask around at the hotel and hopefully find someone willing to show me around?
[QUOTE=ResetButton;1634023]Gentlemen,
I'm going to be in Medellin for the first time from 10/19 - 10/24 and am staying at Hotel M. I'm guessing I'm going to spend a lot of time in La Cueva but would like to check out the strip clubs / casas and pull some girls back to my room from there. Are there any organized tours that hit these spots from Hotel M or is my best bet to ask around at the hotel and hopefully find someone willing to show me around?[/QUOTE]My best bet to ask around at the hotel and hopefully find someone willing to show me around.
This would most likely be your best bet. Although, it's fairly easy to do it yourself. Just get the names and addresses of the casas and take a taxi. That's all there is to it. For the downtown casas, you can easily walk from one to the others.
[QUOTE=ResetButton;1634023]Gentlemen,
I'm going to be in Medellin for the first time from 10/19 - 10/24 and am staying at Hotel M. I'm guessing I'm going to spend a lot of time in La Cueva but would like to check out the strip clubs / casas and pull some girls back to my room from there. Are there any organized tours that hit these spots from Hotel M or is my best bet to ask around at the hotel and hopefully find someone willing to show me around?[/QUOTE]If Boyd is there he may take you on a casa tour. But as the poster below stated, your best bet is finding other mongers staying at the hotel and get together for a casa or stripclub run. You will most likely find guys who are familiar with the scene and will show you around.
You can also ask the front desk for a casa map (if they still provide them).
[QUOTE=ResetButton;1634023]Gentlemen,
I'm going to be in Medellin for the first time from 10/19 - 10/24 and am staying at Hotel M. I'm guessing I'm going to spend a lot of time in La Cueva but would like to check out the strip clubs / casas and pull some girls back to my room from there. Are there any organized tours that hit these spots from Hotel M or is my best bet to ask around at the hotel and hopefully find someone willing to show me around?[/QUOTE]I'm getting in Monday evening and staying at HMP1, and I will absolutely be hitting some casas! Look me up!
BD
[QUOTE=ResetButton;1634023]Gentlemen,
I'm going to be in Medellin for the first time from 10/19 - 10/24 and am staying at Hotel M. I'm guessing I'm going to spend a lot of time in La Cueva but would like to check out the strip clubs / casas and pull some girls back to my room from there. Are there any organized tours that hit these spots from Hotel M or is my best bet to ask around at the hotel and hopefully find someone willing to show me around?[/QUOTE]You need to read the Medellin Reports, and Medellin List forums, go back a couple of years to get useful info, everything is the same, women, prices, locations for the most part.
Print this map and take it w / you on your El Centro adventure, the address system is screwy so go early and you'll have time to figure it out.
[URL]https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&authuser=0&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=206810231178282017429.000494779e6b2fb07f4d4&dg=feature[/URL]
The area around New Life casa is easy to navigate, plus the 2 strip clubs, Ejecutiva and Maracaibo are nearby for late afternoon entertainment, low end but safe and fun.
The Parque Boliviar is an interesting bustling place in the day time. Here is the door to New Life, my guess is it's still a nondescript blue door.
[quote=hioctane;1634002]the legal age of consent is still the age of consent in your home country no matter where you go![/quote]this is the usa laws:
many states in the usa have the legal age of consent as low as 16 years of age. a few 17 years and some 18 years of age. the main point in the federal legal jargon is the word paying. if you are not paying for sex with a person where it is legal to have sex with persons under 18 years, then you have not committed any crimes in that country and the usa.
the age of consent really is not the point here. the confusion lies in how you read this law. legal mumbo-jumbo goes around in circles and is easy to misread if you're not used to reading it. everyone.
so far has completely ignored the key term here; "interstate or foreign commerce". if a person is travelling in "foreign commerce", then he or she is going to another country for the purpose of conducting business. likewise, someone travelling in "interstate commerce" is travelling to another state to conduct some kind of business. now, with that in mind, lets discuss the 2 parts of this statute.
part (a) is simple. anyone who transports a minor (under 18) to another state or country for the purpose of having that person engage in any kind of sexual "business", such as prostitution, has violated this code and committed a crime.
part (b) is a little more complex but essentially it says that if you travel across state or international lines for the purpose of paying for a sex act (defined in chapter 109 a, subsection 2246, (basically, penetration, oral sex, intercourse)) with a minor (in this case minor may mean under 16 or 18, depending on the specific act), and if the sex act you are paying for is considered a crime under chapter 109 a, subsection 2241-2245 (basically, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], sexual assault, statutory [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] (under 16)), then you have committed a crime. you are also guilty if you aren't the one travelling but are a conspirator in the crime. an example would be if you sold people trips overseas for the purpose of having them pay for sex with minors (in this case, under 16).
nothing in this law, i repeat, nothing keeps you from having consensual sex with someone under 18, as long as it's not against the local laws, under the age of consent where you are, and you're not paying the person (or being paid yourself) if the person is under the age of 16. i want to be clear on this, if you are in a country where the age of consent is 14, then you can have consensual sex with that person, you just can't pay to have sex with a 14 year old while you're there.
usa state, age of consent, age gap provision* , mistake of age defense*.
alabama 16 yes no.
alaska 16 yes yes.
arizona 18 no yes.
arkansas 16 no yes.
california 18 no no.
colorado 17 yes no.
connecticut 16 yes no.
the. see. 16 yes no.
delaware 18 yes no.
florida 18 yes no.
georgia 16 yes no.
hawaii 16 yes no.
idaho 18 yes no.
illinois 17 no no.
indiana 16 no yes.
iowa 16 yes no.
kansas 16 no no.
kentucky 16 yes yes.
louisiana 17 yes no.
maine 16 yes yes.
maryland 16 yes no.
massachusetts 16 no no.
michigan 16 no no.
minnesota 16 yes no.
mississippi 16 yes no.
missouri 17 no yes.
montana 16 yes yes.
nebraska 17 no no.
nevada 16 no no.
new hampshire 16 yes no.
new jersey 16 yes no.
new mexico 17 yes no.
new york 17 no yes.
north carolina 16 yes no.
north dakota 18 no no.
ohio 16 no no.
oklahoma 16 yes no.
oregon 18 yes no.
pennsylvania 16 yes yes.
rhode island 16 no no.
south carolina 16 no no.
south dakota 16 no no.
tennessee 18 yes no.
texas 17 no no.
utah 18 yes no.
vermont 16 yes no.
virginia 18 no no.
washington 16 yes yes.
west virginia 16 yes yes.
wisconsin 18 no no.
wyoming 18 yes yes.
* note: some state laws make the age gap less of a crime but still consider it criminal activity that can be prosecuted. where this is the case we have listed 'no'.
** note: in the absence of an affirmative or negative, we have presumed. the answer to be no. also, some states only allow mistake of age above a certain age.
[QUOTE=ResetButton;1634023]Gentlemen,
I'm going to be in Medellin for the first time from 10/19 - 10/24 and am staying at Hotel M. I'm guessing I'm going to spend a lot of time in La Cueva but would like to check out the strip clubs / casas and pull some girls back to my room from there. Are there any organized tours that hit these spots from Hotel M or is my best bet to ask around at the hotel and hopefully find someone willing to show me around?[/QUOTE]
The mansion # 1 has 2 daily offerings, 1 pm (approx.) at the pool ladies gather and are ready for daytime fun. These ladies will negotiate (maybe) and will be more open to BBFS, photos, etc, these ladies are the day crew. That's why many guys never leave the hotel, too much pussy w less wear and tear on the premises.
The casas, especially NL are fuck factories, still a lot of fun but you're on a conveyer belt. Smaller casas like Aifies, Sexy's etc. should be less so but w less talent as well. A few years ago I enjoyed a real beauty for $16 at Sexy's, that's around the corner from NL. The casas have incredible variety, all sizes and flavors, a great convenience, and then you're out the door w a smile on your face.
Back to Hotel M. The night crew at La Cueva are the premier ladies at Hotel M. Some nights are better then others but it's always fun at La Cueva. The ladies will not negotiate from the 150,000 p ST / 300,000p LT pricing.
You can party for hours w them and take one (or two) for ST, a great deal and why the Hotel M is a great (one of a kind) experience.
Some pics of the Poblado Metro Station, El Centro scenes, Maracaibo strip club, real hottie in black (what a face on her), Parque Boliviar, vender, Botero Plaza, the seedy area of El Centro, jail bait included.
[QUOTE=Socker;1634137]The mansion # 1 has 2 daily offerings, 1 pm (approx.) at the pool ladies gather and are ready for daytime fun. These ladies will negotiate (maybe) and will be more open to BBFS, photos, etc, these ladies are the day crew. That's why many guys never leave the hotel, too much pussy w less wear and tear on the premises.
The casas, especially NL are fuck factories, still a lot of fun but you're on a conveyer belt. Smaller casas like Aifies, Sexy's etc. should be less so but w less talent as well. A few years ago I enjoyed a real beauty for $16 at Sexy's, that's around the corner from NL. The casas have incredible variety, all sizes and flavors, a great convenience, and then you're out the door w a smile on your face.
Back to Hotel M. The night crew at La Cueva are the premier ladies at Hotel M. Some nights are better then others but it's always fun at La Cueva. The ladies will not negotiate from the 150,000 p ST / 300,000p LT pricing.
You can party for hours w them and take one (or two) for ST, a great deal and why the Hotel M is a great (one of a kind) experience.
Some pics of the Poblado Metro Station, El Centro scenes, Maracaibo strip club, real hottie in black (what a face on her), Parque Boliviar, vender, Botero Plaza, the seedy area of El Centro, jail bait included.[/QUOTE]In my experience the LT rate (or TLN) is absolutely negotiatable and some may also negotiate the short-time rate depending on the situation. Having said that, 150 K seems to have become almost standard for a 1- or 2-hour hook-up.