Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2680616]I agree! It is so obvious to me that girls love to bang different guys and get paid for it. If I could do that, I would have never gotten a job. It could be the best job in the world, and it is in places like Germany where girls are protected and can work freely.

The only issue is that girls don't manage their money well, and end up spending it away and not thinking about their retirement.[/QUOTE]You guys are too funny thinking these girls love banging all of these customers. They may enjoy it with a select few, but most of them tolerate it but definitely don't enjoy it. Look at all of the their customers. Mostly older, fat, ugly guys. Creepy guys. Guys into kinky fetishes or that are bad in bed. Or with bad hygiene.

The girls I know tell me stories about how the customers make them sick and at times they've had to try hard to not vomit in the room because they are so disgusted.

Jackie.

They all need money.

A minority is stupid enough to work their asses off to offer all their money up to their BFs in exchange for their alleged love, but are in fact being pimped out and exploited. Don't worry about their sex lives with their BFs / pimps. These guys know how to fuck the young girls' brains out and make them feel love.

The majority of the girls are smarter, have dumped their BFs, are independent, make good money to support high living standards for their families. Girls and women just love to be flattered, sweet talked to, treated to fun parties, expensive liquors, fine food, brand name gifts. They sure love the sexy and fun party life styles in the clubs. It sure beat sitting home starving and being beat up by useless BFs.

Quite a few hot girls were taken out of the market and have permanent relationships with guys, have children. Some young girls look very sweet. I am glad to see them happy with their families and children.

But most relationships with bar girls won't last long, may be 1 to 2 years max, and the girls are back in the bars, drinking, fucking having fun. It's almost impossible for average guys to get free sex out of typical women. Pimps know how to do it. Fuck the girls' brains out and take all their money.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2680616]I agree! It is so obvious to me that girls love to bang different guys and get paid for it. If I could do that, I would have never gotten a job. It could be the best job in the world, and it is in places like Germany where girls are protected and can work freely.[/QUOTE]There is some next level of obliviousness and delusion in this post.

[QUOTE=ElGuerito;2680776]You guys are too funny thinking these girls love banging all of these customers. They may enjoy it with a select few, but most of them tolerate it but definitely don't enjoy it. Look at all of the their customers. Mostly older, fat, ugly guys. Creepy guys. Guys into kinky fetishes or that are bad in bed. Or with bad hygiene.

The girls I know tell me stories about how the customers make them sick and at times they've had to try hard to not vomit in the room because they are so disgusted.[/QUOTE]You are right, enjoy is too strong of a word, and tolerate would fit the situation better. However, I think most working girls would not be able to make that kind of money doing, any other job due to a lack of serious skills. And money is the key element in the equation here. I don't believe anybody is looking for love in this environment.

[QUOTE=Ctytek;2680845]There is some next level of obliviousness and delusion in this post.[/QUOTE]Dude, most chicas I guarantee you would not enjoy the job. If you just people watch at HK. MOST of the guys there are ridiculously nasty / creepy / rude / unprofessional / fucking nasty. And that's them "behaving" in the public club scene with all the meseros around. Just imagine how fucking nasty / rude / unprofessional they are when arriba without supervision. Doesn't take a genius to make a logical deduction that a typical woman would not enjoy going arriba with some fuckbag in that category. It's all about money. They're desperate for it and have no other skills for a non prostitute job that can support their expenses. I am not anti prostitution by any means. I was just wondering if people also shared my opiniion that working at HK probably damages a chica's mind permanently psychologically. I think it definitely does.

[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2680906]Dude, most chicas I guarantee you would not enjoy the job. If you just people watch at HK. MOST of the guys there are ridiculously nasty / creepy / rude / unprofessional / fucking nasty. And that's them "behaving" in the public club scene with all the meseros around. Just imagine how fucking nasty / rude / unprofessional they are when arriba without supervision. Doesn't take a genius to make a logical deduction that a typical woman would not enjoy going arriba with some fuckbag in that category. It's all about money. They're desperate for it and have no other skills for a non prostitute job that can support their expenses. I am not anti prostitution by any means. I was just wondering if people also shared my opiniion that working at HK probably damages a chica's mind permanently psychologically. I think it definitely does.[/QUOTE]First of all this work does damage them but also the type of girl that sticks around is already a bit damaged. I'm very observant, I seen girls put on a act to get a guy arriba and when they agree and their back is turned to the john I can see them frown. I've read hundreds of books on the human body and mind. At the end of the day we are mostly controlled by our biology. Yeah yeah free will is possible but that's beyond a mongering board discussion.

Think about it, if there was a opposite version of HK where men had to bang any sloppy, weirdo, fat, mean women that walked in and flashed 80 $ bucks. How would you feel? Yes men and women are different but no one wants to fuck someone they don't like. A lot of these girls drink and drug themselves almost 24/7 to most likely numb themselves to what they are and do.

If you believe the whole pair bonding thing and its a fact that the body releases hormones / neurotransmitters etc when you are intimate with people. Very confusing to any persons psyche. These women have to numb themselves and detach sex from emotion. Also they have programmed themselves to need financial gain from men, even the ones outside work.

Now its not all depressing. I mean imagine getting paid to party. They love the lifestyle for the most part. The few girls I met that didn't I never saw again. These girls may hate some customers but in general they like it. Also women are hypergamous and HK is a place where they can meet a rich man. From a biological stand point this place ticks all the boxes.

HK girls remind me of american women in their 20's. Unlimited options for fun, sex and money. But what they all women realize at 30 is they don't look as good and the clock is ticking. Some smarten up and try to settle by then but by 40 its checkmate and they realize they fucked up if they didn't hold down a good man.

[QUOTE=BigMagick;2680932]Think about it, if there was a opposite version of HK where men had to bang any sloppy, weirdo, fat, mean women that walked in and flashed 80 $ bucks. How would you feel? Yes men and women are different but no one wants to fuck someone they don't like. A lot of these girls drink and drug themselves almost 24/7 to most likely numb themselves to what they are and do.[/QUOTE]This paragraph reminds me of a Tijuana amigo who is no longer with us. He had a comedy routine that started with this line. "I would never fuck me!" he would have the girls rolling on the floor.

[QUOTE=BigMagick;2680932]First of all this work does damage them but also the type of girl that sticks around is already a bit damaged. I'm very observant, I seen girls put on a act to get a guy arriba and when they agree and their back is turned to the john I can see them frown. I've read hundreds of books on the human body and mind. At the end of the day we are mostly controlled by our biology. Yeah yeah free will is possible but that's beyond a mongering board discussion.

Think about it, if there was a opposite version of HK where men had to bang any sloppy, weirdo, fat, mean women that walked in and flashed 80 $ bucks. How would you feel? Yes men and women are different but no one wants to fuck someone they don't like. A lot of these girls drink and drug themselves almost 24/7 to most likely numb themselves to what they are and do.

If you believe the whole pair bonding thing and its a fact that the body releases hormones / neurotransmitters etc when you are intimate with people. Very confusing to any persons psyche. These women have to numb themselves and detach sex from emotion. Also they have programmed themselves to need financial gain from men, even the ones outside work.[/QUOTE]Magick, your spot on with your assement. I knew this one gal who worked at HK for three years straight, we dated and fought and made friend and we fought again and now hate each other. Even this hardened sex worker confessed to me over tears that she was tired of selling her body and that one day she would start a tattoo shop and leave the zona. The love the money but hate themselves for having to hook for it.

[QUOTE=ElGuerito;2680776]You guys are too funny thinking these girls love banging all of these customers. They may enjoy it with a select few, but most of them tolerate it but definitely don't enjoy it. Look at all of the their customers. Mostly older, fat, ugly guys. Creepy guys. Guys into kinky fetishes or that are bad in bed. Or with bad hygiene.

The girls I know tell me stories about how the customers make them sick and at times they've had to try hard to not vomit in the room because they are so disgusted.[/QUOTE]LOL heard the same, but they would make up an excuse or just say no if they don't want to have sex with someone they find disgusting. It's not like they're forced into fucking anybody who asks.

[QUOTE=Jackie888;2680725]I think that most chicas work in Bars because they need money. But it is a nice thought to believe that they are here for personal pleasure.[/QUOTE]I agree, if they hit the lotto, they sure as hell won't be working at the bars. Majority of them look bored standing around waiting for customers to take them arriba. I doubt they enjoy standing around 8-10 hours / shift in 6-8 inch heels.

I do not have a deep research project ongoing. But I suspect if we could get to the truth, the vast majority of these girls would love to get out of the zona. Like us mongers, there are different types of women. But going back to what started this tangent. We can fool ourselves that these girls are banging us because they like us. But they are in bars for one reason. Money.

Obviously, they enjoy some guys more than others. But to think they are in the job because they enjoy the work? I'd say that applies to less than 5% of the chicas.

[QUOTE=SeaBeeJoe;2681071]Magick, your spot on with your assement. I knew this one gal who worked at HK for three years straight, we dated and fought and made friend and we fought again and now hate each other. Even this hardened sex worker confessed to me over tears that she was tired of selling her body and that one day she would start a tattoo shop and leave the zona. The love the money but hate themselves for having to hook for it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SeaBeeJoe;2681071]Magick, your spot on with your assement. I knew this one gal who worked at HK for three years straight, we dated and fought and made friend and we fought again and now hate each other. Even this hardened sex worker confessed to me over tears that she was tired of selling her body and that one day she would start a tattoo shop and leave the zona. The love the money but hate themselves for having to hook for it.[/QUOTE]There are always exceptions, but most of the time women are wired to fuck one guy a lot of times. And we men are wired to fuck a lot of women, I think it's usually between 3-6 favorites.

I think that a person can break through their biology. Women can drink a lot. Men can go to church a lot. But it takes a conscious effort to overcome your natural tendencies.

I'm heading to Tijuana for some dentistry and popped in here to see the latest. I'll add to this discussion, here's my take on the stripper type of P4P. Firstly it's different from the SGs, the Escorts, etc. Bottom line, w 98% of p4 p it's their choice to try for bigger money. I've been to the HKC many times and I go mainly for the cold brews, nude chicas, and the loud rock. I've been to the dingy room a couple of times but it's not my cup of tea. I like escorts. At the HKC I like to watch. This gives me power over the BGs.

The HKC chicas have a tough job, so do house painters scraping and sanding a ceiling of loose paint. I could name 50 tough jobs that take a physical or mental toll on the worker so WTF are we talking about here?! The BGs have a tough job and make better money than their counterparts in a warehouse or restaurants, etc. They leave when they've had enough. They are free!

Sure they have to put up w some BS from customers as do other occupations. In the HKC they control the action and they learn how to cope and control what you get in the room. They are the real hunters in the strip clubs. You are their prey. That's how it is.

You can walk out and they need to stay there and work. That's the only advantage mongers have over them. So enough w the sob stories about them being scarred for life. It's just another tough job. The ones that don't belong leave before the scars if they're smart. Who doesn't have scars BTW?

Guys who call honest hard working BGs putas make their lives miserable. Guys who respect them make their lives better. This is how it is. Do not feel sorry for them as that is almost as bad as calling them ugly names most don't deserve. Looking forward to popping into the HKC next week for the brews, babes and rock.

Has me laughing too! Thanks.

[QUOTE=Socker;2681225]I'm heading to Tijuana for some dentistry and popped in here to see the latest. I'll add to this discussion, here's my take on the stripper type of P4P. Firstly it's different from the SGs, the Escorts, etc. Bottom line, w 98% of p4 p it's their choice to try for bigger money. I've been to the HKC many times and I go mainly for the cold brews, nude chicas, and the loud rock. I've been to the dingy room a couple of times but it's not my cup of tea. I like escorts. At the HKC I like to watch. This gives me power over the BGs.

The HKC chicas have a tough job, so do house painters scraping and sanding a ceiling of loose paint. I could name 50 tough jobs that take a physical or mental toll on the worker so WTF are we talking about here?! The BGs have a tough job and make better money than their counterparts in a warehouse or restaurants, etc. They leave when they've had enough. They are free!

Sure they have to put up w some BS from customers as do other occupations. In the HKC they control the action and they learn how to cope and control what you get in the room. They are the real hunters in the strip clubs. You are their prey. That's how it is.[/QUOTE]Good points and you also mentioned the loud rock. That is I nice draw as well. I am an old fart and wouldn't really feel comfortable hanging out in a San Diego bar listening to their music but HK is Cool!

Your missing one important part and I am just guessing it is big as I am not a Tijuana hooker. You can be in a social situation and someone asks what you do and you don't need to lie. They live two different lives. They go home saying they are working in a restaurant or whatever. They can't tell most of their friends etc. Their family. As a painter you can do a good days work and complain later to your buddies about it. These girls can only talk to their HK friends. Also. They can't do this work in their home town, they need to be away from their family's, friends etc. Do make the money. Most of our regular jobs we can just do in the city we are in if we have a little experience!

Also. There is society shame factor, which is bullshit. Being a hooker is just as respectable as any other job in fact it's more respectable in my opinion. It's bullshit a massage therapist is respectable but the minute some guy comes it's illegal and not respectable. Also I am not going to get any STD's being a painter. No matter how much you practice safe sex. If your banging a lot of guys I really think your chance of catching something is higher. Not to mention the Covid factor of risk.

Anyway. Wanted to mention these other sides to the job.

G.