Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2741607]Yep, I went to Scandello many times last week and it was very sub par experience and very disappointed at times. ...[/QUOTE]Why did you go many times when it was sub par?

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2741607]... You can't just straight up ask girl about this as first liner. ...[/QUOTE]Not sure what you mean? This is the only way I know how to do it since I don't speak Portuguese.

Me: do you kiss.

Girl: yes.

Me: lets find a place to talk.

Both: starting kissing and make out, you can do this as long as you want.

The only thing one can't do in the club is having sex.

I observed some local men, some would occupy a girl for hours, holding hand walking around and doing stuff, sometimes did not finish the deal. You can find my past reports talking about some of it. If you think about the deal as a whole for a few hours, finished with sex in the room, then it is not a bad deal. I would say it is a good deal actually if one can converse in Portuguese.

My observation is the number of girls each night varies, I don't think there is a rule. The most girls I have seen is about 200 and that is when you have to wait for the room which is a good sign that this night is good.

Because some night I do end finding gem so greedy me kept alluding there. But on a hindsight I think I could have done better (problem is I don't know what could have been better) - it is one of those things "you don't know what you don't know" (if you know what I mean).

Anyhow, I don't directly ask straight up questions like you have "Do you kiss" -- may be I should (idk).

One thing I learned, is each visit to Brazil makes you a better monger.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2741911]Why did you go many times when it was sub par?

Not sure what you mean? This is the only way I know how to do it since I don't speak Portuguese.

Me: do you kiss.

Girl: yes.

Me: lets find a place to talk.

Both: starting kissing and make out, you can do this as long as you want.

The only thing one can't do in the club is having sex.

I observed some local men, some would occupy a girl for hours, holding hand walking around and doing stuff, sometimes did not finish the deal. You can find my past reports talking about some of it. If you think about the deal as a whole for a few hours, finished with sex in the room, then it is not a bad deal. I would say it is a good deal actually if one can converse in Portuguese.

My observation is the number of girls each night varies, I don't think there is a rule. The most girls I have seen is about 200 and that is when you have to wait for the room which is a good sign that this night is good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2741607] Yep, I went to Scandallo many times last week and it was very sub par experience and very disappointed at times. Lot of scam and shady non-GFE services lately. It is like finding gems from the hay. Usually biggest advantage of Scandallo is having so many 100+ girls in one floor. But then it becomes a disadvantage. Because now you have to screen so many of them to make sure you get the GFE vibe. You can't just straight up ask girl about this as first liner. On average conversation with each girl takes 20+ minutes. (at least for me). At times I felt other clubs with limited # of girls may be a better bet. [/QUOTE]As Nounce points out, the great advantage of boate and terma venues is the hands-on audition / interview where a punter can get to know a girl a little before making a commitment. You never know how good the sex is going to be until you are having the sex but passing an audition with flying colors is the best indication, I know of what is to come later in a room.

I enjoy the hunt inside Scandallo and other boates. I enjoy flirting and fooling around with the girls over a drink or two. It reminds me of picking up girls in a bar or night club except that boate girls always say yes (for a price). KKK. That may be the key to my solid success rate later in the room. I enjoy the preliminaries and I never take a girl upstairs who does not pass the audition with flying colors which means I never take a girl that I have not established a good vibe with. My strategy is not perfect, but it eliminates 95% of the bad experiences we are talking about.

Yet some punters don't like to buy drinks and audition girls. That's fine. To each his own. For guys that prefer point & shoot you have the clinicas and prive's where the girls work for the house, so the house more or less takes responsibility for the quality of service rendered, and customers pay the house not the girls.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2741911] Why did you go many times when it was sub-par? Not sure what you mean? This is the only way I know how to do it since I don't speak Portuguese.
Me: do you kiss. Girl: yes. Me: lets find a place to talk. Both: starting kissing and make out, you can do this as long as you want.
The only thing one can't do in the club is having sex.
If you think about the deal as a whole for a few hours, finished with sex in the room, then it is not a bad deal. I would say it is a good deal actually if one can converse in Portuguese. [/QUOTE]Yeah, I am a big fan of hands on the wheel test driving. My favorite spot is towards the back of the patio courtyard bar. Not very many people about, but who cares anyway. KKK. Google Translate helps as long as the ambient bar noise does not crowd out your voice, otherwise you have to hit the keyboards.

[QUOTE=NiceFirst;2741903] The first session with her was OK like others I had had in Scandallo, which was nothing to rave about. But I wanted that true GFE so many in here seem to have found, that's why I wanted to try and treat her like a girlfriend so that her performance would improve per the advice here in this forum.

I treated her very well, accommodated the time for when it was the most convenient for her and not for me. I was chivalrous the whole time. I really put in the work hoping I would get that IOP that people here raved about.

For her I think Jessica thought I fell for her and so she could do whatever she wants. She is one of those selfish people who fully take advantage of any generosity and not reciprocate. I've met this kind before in my life, totally selfish, opportunistic, lack empathy, ethics, and reflection, unfeeling and cold-hearted toward the pain and suffering they cause others. They view human and ethical considerations as weaknesses. They think that rules are meant to be broken, and that's how they WIN.

I'm still fuming thinking about how I was treated. [/QUOTE]Fuhgeddaboudher man. She is the loser, not you. There are thousands of real nice Sao Paulo girls that are genuinely sweet and want to orgasm and fuck the daylights out of you. Go get them. We have all had a loser session once in a while. There is nothing to worry about as long as it remains a rare event.

I too go to Scandallo, but more for the atmosphere of a high end club with the possibility of bedding someone. I actually go and often spend 200 USA on drinks / food. I go thinking I won't session.

I do get numbers and sometimes meet outside the club if the vibe was good.

Having said that, I prefer the much different atmosphere of Casarao and for some reason get approched more often by the prettier girls. There are of course less hotties, but with 5-10 8's walking around my odds are good. Met a smoking hot 9 last week. Playboy hot. Face, thin waist, nice medium size ass, and bolt ONS. Dressed to kill. Bought her the drink but the bive wasn't there. She approched me at least 3 more times that night, but did not go with. Hung out with a few 7's until 330 and left without taking anyone. Had a great night. (I nutted during the day at the clinacas).

Friday woke up with hangover and thought I needed to take a night off. Went to a local club promising myself to drink water. An hour later. Drinking beer. Hooked up with a cutie and she promised a good time. But two other local guys convinced me to leave the place and go to another club with them. I know, sounds like a bad idea and I declined. Got one of their WhatsApp numbers and about 15 minutes after they left, got a text. Come to the club, ALOT better woman.

Damn, struck gold. Walked in and 25 woman maybe 10 guys. I immediately spot my type of gal but just smile and promise myself to look around for 15 minutes. I like the model type body. There were at least 4 that were 8's and 1 TALL asian looking beauty I would rate a 9. Dressed in long elegant gown with heals. She was sitting with a guy so I scratched her off list. I went back to the lady dressed in a shorter leather skirt and grey high heals. Damn. Solid 8. Local guy came over and because it was his birthday I offered him first dabs on her. She told him she preffered to have a drink with me.

Next 3 hours drank vodka mixed drinks with her. Birthday guy bought a bottle and asked me to join his party. Eventually this girl is cuddling, hand holding, rubbning my back. Pure GFE without the ball rubbing pse stuff many do in the clubs. Twice I have had girls reach into my pants. So I am getting drunk and in English I say, can I lick your face. Of course she doesn't understand but says NO. I laugh and repeat it. She asks for Google translator and I type in I am joking, but can I lick your face. She replies on the translator, can I lick your balls. Party until 4 am. Back to my room for 500 to her and exit fee. She goes to bathroom and comes out in neglige, stockings, heals. Fifteen minute strip TEASE. Full on sex for over an hour. Finally nutted on her face and wanted to sleep. She wanted more sex. Blew me for another 20 minutes trying to get round two out of me. She finally says she has to go home, no kids, but two dogs. Everytime she gets partially dressed she is stopping and blowing me in different positions. She tries to take off her clothes again but I convince her to go.

So those that are not getting GFE. It's you. I have my failures but the secret sauce is to have fun and get the girl to LIKE you. If you are a pretty boy and think that's all you need to get GFE. You are dead wrong. You might be able to get the 8's and 9's, but put time into them. Treat THEM like girlfriends and get to know THEM.

Oh, the tall asain gal was free shortly after I had already invited my eventual girlfriend for the night to myntable. The tall japanese looking remained free all night. Damn I'll be back.

Which club am I speaking about? Not going to disclose. Don't stick to the well known clubs. Venture out. Be a person, not a sex hound. You will get your GFE mixed with PSE.

Side note. I am 60 plus. I can do it. You can too.

Second side note. Hopefully won't start an unitended race debate, but overheard conversation by girls when a couoke of well dressed black gentleman walked in. They both said they won't go with negroe. Not sure how the black gentleman from Europe / USA are being treated in the clubs. Clinicas girls have no choice. But maybe being shunned in the clubs?

Apologize for typos and grammar. Phone typing.

If one wants GFE, he has better chances with semi pros or non pros that could be found online (Seeking, Tinder, etc) or at regular bars / restaurants / clubs. Most of boate girls are pros, meaning they do this for living, full time. I'm not saying they can't provide GFE service, but the odds are against you. With pros, it is always a hit or miss, you never know how she will perform in bed. I don't believe in audition BS, 15-20 minutes interview won't guarantee a good service simply because pros know what to do and what to say to convince you to take her to the room. Happened to me when a girl was nice and sweet before the session, but once in the room, could not even suck my dick properly. The session was just meh. Also, I hate going into details about the service prior to sessioning. It feels weird to ask questions like, do you do BBBJ, CIM, etc, totally kills the vibe. These girls know you are in town for a few days, and most likely you won't repeat with them, because you have plenty of other options. Therefore, they are not motivated to provide a good service. Locals surely have an advantage in this regard. I think clinicas provide better value, you can get GFE there at a fraction of boate prices, and if your session sucks, no big deal, because it is cheap and your expectations are lower in the first place. When you pay Scandallo rates, you expect a full package, and if you don't get what you want, it hurts and disappoints.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2742047] I think clinicas provide better value, you can get GFE there at a fraction of boate prices, and if your session sucks, no big deal, because it is cheap and your expectations are lower in the first place.[/QUOTE]This facet of the Clinica experience, where the risk of a bad session is low due to the low cost per session, is certainly one of the great appeals. Especially at Tangara where it's $25 usd for 30 minutes. The trial and error process is relaxed and low risk, and even so, the accountability from the Clinica makes the error rare.

Well said, especially that the better value is at clinicas / prives.

The correct answer to the question of how long you are in town is always 6 months, even if you come in to the clinica with your luggage and you are only able to speak Texan Portoguese, you are a effin engineer on exchange to Petrobras, and you are here for a living and you are just switching apartments, and yes, sticking my dick in you means I love you.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2742047]If one wants GFE, he has better chances with semi pros or non pros that could be found online (Seeking, Tinder, etc) or at regular bars / restaurants / clubs. Most of boate girls are pros, meaning they do this for living, full time. I'm not saying they can't provide GFE service, but the odds are against you. With pros, it is always a hit or miss, you never know how she will perform in bed. I don't believe in audition BS, 15-20 minutes interview won't guarantee a good service simply because pros know what to do and what to say to convince you to take her to the room. Happened to me when a girl was nice and sweet before the session, but once in the room, could not even suck my dick properly. The session was just meh. Also, I hate going into details about the service prior to sessioning. It feels weird to ask questions like, do you do BBBJ, CIM, etc, totally kills the vibe. These girls know you are in town for a few days, and most likely you won't repeat with them, because you have plenty of other options. Therefore, they are not motivated to provide a good service. Locals surely have an advantage in this regard. I think clinicas provide better value, you can get GFE there at a fraction of boate prices, and if your session sucks, no big deal, because it is cheap and your expectations are lower in the first place. When you pay Scandallo rates, you expect a full package, and if you don't get what you want, it hurts and disappoints.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jet69;2741995]
Second side note. Hopefully won't start an unitended race debate, but overheard conversation by girls when a couoke of well dressed black gentleman walked in. They both said they won't go with negroe. Not sure how the black gentleman from Europe / USA are being treated in the clubs. Clinicas girls have no choice. But maybe being shunned in the clubs?

Apologize for typos and grammar. Phone typing.[/QUOTE]Maybe they said it because they felt that was what you wanted to hear?

Hello.

I am planning to visit SP alone for my btrip. Is there private guided tour w girl?

I believe I can make one day off and get guided tour and laid.

Any recommendation for who visits alone like me?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2742047]If one wants GFE, he has better chances with semi pros or non pros that could be found online (Seeking, Tinder, etc) or at regular bars / restaurants / clubs. Most of boate girls are pros, meaning they do this for living, full time. I'm not saying they can't provide GFE service, but the odds are against you. With pros, it is always a hit or miss, you never know how she will perform in bed. I don't believe in audition BS, 15-20 minutes interview won't guarantee a good service simply because pros know what to do and what to say to convince you to take her to the room. Happened to me when a girl was nice and sweet before the session, but once in the room, could not even suck my dick properly. The session was just meh. Also, I hate going into details about the service prior to sessioning. It feels weird to ask questions like, do you do BBBJ, CIM, etc, totally kills the vibe. These girls know you are in town for a few days, and most likely you won't repeat with them, because you have plenty of other options. Therefore, they are not motivated to provide a good service. Locals surely have an advantage in this regard. I think clinicas provide better value, you can get GFE there at a fraction of boate prices, and if your session sucks, no big deal, because it is cheap and your expectations are lower in the first place. When you pay Scandallo rates, you expect a full package, and if you don't get what you want, it hurts and disappoints.[/QUOTE]Pros are pros, whatever you ask them to do it wouldn't be the first or last time. Or asking during sex and she will say, not this time, never, yes, or tip her.

I usually just ask up front and when she says maybe or she will try I counter with two one price if she can and another price is can't and she ends up doing it.

[QUOTE=Messiah69;2742127]Maybe they said it because they felt that was what you wanted to hear?[/QUOTE]Maybe. I had my back to them and was not talking to them. Was actually talking with another gal. So why they would be telling me something? I think my original post said I overheard them speaking. The guys that walked in appeared to me as a couple of well dressed American retired military. Would have liked to chatted 'them up, but was busy.

Sorry if I offended anyone. But if Sao Paulo is less forgiving in the night clubs for our black bretheren, then maybe it's something they would want to know before flying to SP rather than Rio?

Think I will refrain from future updates. Seems fruitless. Anyone that needs direct info, shoot me a pm.

Will be going thru Brazil for the first time. I will have a 9 hour layover in SP GRU during the afternoon and was hoping to get out of the airport and make use of my time. I've been digging back through past reports here and it seems these Clinicas are the best way to do this. Abbobora seems to be popular and have good reviews. Any further advice on specific Clinicas or even somewhere closer to GRU? Thanks a lot!

[QUOTE=Jet69;2742242]Maybe. I had my back to them and was not talking to them. Was actually talking with another gal. So why they would be telling me something? I think my original post said I overheard them speaking. The guys that walked in appeared to me as a couple of well dressed American retired military. Would have liked to chatted 'them up, but was busy.

Sorry if I offended anyone. But if Sao Paulo is less forgiving in the night clubs for our black bretheren, then maybe it's something they would want to know before flying to SP rather than Rio?

Think I will refrain from future updates. Seems fruitless. Anyone that needs direct info, shoot me a pm.[/QUOTE]I'm black. I stayed in Sao Paulo for 6 months last year.

I frequented most of the popular boates. Maybe not the ones you discovered.

Blackness was never really an issue at all.

Maybe some might have had some preferences here and there. But overall, compared to Asia, it was paradise.

Whatever subjective prejudices I might have perceived mostly came from the Japanese-Brazilian GPS.

[QUOTE=DanAnon300;2742253]Will be going thru Brazil for the first time. I will have a 9 hour layover in SP GRU during the afternoon and was hoping to get out of the airport and make use of my time. I've been digging back through past reports here and it seems these Clinicas are the best way to do this. Abbobora seems to be popular and have good reviews. Any further advice on specific Clinicas or even somewhere closer to GRU? Thanks a lot![/QUOTE]No. Scandallo.

[QUOTE=DanAnon300;2742253]Will be going thru Brazil for the first time. I will have a 9 hour layover in SP GRU during the afternoon and was hoping to get out of the airport and make use of my time. I've been digging back through past reports here and it seems these Clinicas are the best way to do this. Abbobora seems to be popular and have good reviews. Any further advice on specific Clinicas or even somewhere closer to GRU? Thanks a lot![/QUOTE]You could check out Prime, and then Miruna and then Abbobora. Miruna and Abbo is one block from each other.