Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

Hello guys,

Thanks all for your knowledgeable inputs my short trip to Bangkok was worth the visit.

Landed at Sofitel sukhumvit great guest friendly hotel at 9 p. M. Immediately checked smoocci and found Priya available booked her.

Expected time of arrival was 10.30 P M. I got my self ready, she was on time.

Priya from smoocci.

Good bubbly energetic girl. After small mocktail, real active girl with great motivational skill with fake moans.

DFK, DATY, BBBJ. Allowed after 1 shot I was exhausted I am 64 years now.

Worth repeating.

Day 2 Mitu massage.

Recuperated till 4 p. M in between enjoyed hospitality of Sofitel voila and club mellisme.

Took a motorbike taxi to Soi 33 Mitu massage.

It is just before s33 hotel cannot miss the Japaneses signage.

They have 3 levels of massage.

I chose premium girl I think it costed me 4000 be.

Sorry I am bad with names.

Age; 35 years.

Shots; 2.

Body; perfect.

Room; OK better than bamboo massage.

Quality os sex; I went there for nuru mssage sex was additional pleasure.

DFK yes.

Attitude; she was drunk with cheap alcohol I had nauseating experience.

Otherwise good massage place.

They give you Japanese energy drink at the time of entry, and ice cream at time of departure.

Back to room by scooter taxi 40 be.

Day 3 Plaza entertainment complex.

Again took scooter taxi to plaza that guy took me to cupidy instead I went to sherbet.

It is situated above cupidy.

Inside girls are sitting in couches few of them in row chairs.

Cost is from 3500 to 5500 be.

20 to 25 girls all great looking.

I selected 5000 b girl university student.

Age 20 years.

Shots 1.

Body great.

Room better than Nataree, bath tub is extra large.

Quality of sex more mechanical no excitement.

DFK no.

Will I repeat I may with different girl just for face and body.

Day 4 African.

Woke up at 6 pm Just went down I met nice, sexy black girl with good attitude, price 3000 bahths, short time hotel near Soi cow boy.

It was high light of of my journey.

Day 5.

I went to health land spa and had great massage rejuvenated.

I really miss Bangkok a lot.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2062480]This girl at SW has probably been reviewed before, but I have not checked.

I have called into SW several times in the last year but this was first time went upstairs in a year. The reason, is simply at the time of visits, there were no skinny model types that were good enough looking to be a pass.

I believe my last previous girl was probably Emmy who I reviewed maybe 2 years ago or even more.

So I could see that Candy was slim but curvy from waste to thigh, very small in the chest, and brown skinned, probable nose job but acceptable.


Would I repeat? For technique and fun, yes absolutely. For looks she is well behind my favourite girls, for body and face, but I am very tough in this area so I consider her well above average looks in the Oilies for those who like skinny girls and brown skin is okay.[/QUOTE]I did take her during my trip in March. Yes she is talented in BBBJ skills and did make me CIM. Didn't swallow though. She does A+ but I didn't go for it.

In my recent visit in July I did Aom. A very cheerful and smiling girl. Not skinny but not fat either. Small boobs but natural. No nose job. Loved DATY and was very vocal in her response. At times I worried about others hearing her loud screams and moaning. Did a fairly good BBBJ, maybe not as good as Candy but acceptable. Took her for 90 minutes and the time was well spent.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2062532]<snip>Copa Cabana. Many 18-23. More concerned with ladies being younger vs skills or experience. I have saved plenty for this dream trip so price is irrelevant. So I will be reporting on these places at the end of August. Any other places that fellow mongers would like an updated report on? Plan on being very active on my first trip. Might give the different style Pimp and other similar G clubs a try. Seems I'd be better off lighting money on fire from reports. But looking for them stunners.[/QUOTE]Don't even waste a minute of your time thinking about what the price cops might think. It's your money. You earned it! If you want the best you have to pay for the best. Pimp Club is great or rather the girls there are great. It will an expensive night, especially for one guy, but you will have a great time as long as you don't try to hold back. The Lord is real good too. 1st class all the way and with great girls. Go Go's like CH, Twister, Kings Castle 1 & 2 same same. Mixx disco bar is good too. Read the forum, so you know the general price range and what to expect in each venue before you go. That way you will spend a large, yes, but never overpay. There is a huge difference.

A BM in the Macau forum recently posted a response to the inflation and really high prices reported accurately about the Macau Saunas these days.

[QUOTE=Spider916;2062585]I remember the time when a Porsche 911 cost 50.000 DM, now it costs 100.000 Euros. Totally insane. I will boycott Porsche until they lower their prices![/QUOTE] Me too. I plan to drive my 2005 Honda Pilot for another 10 years, but pussy is different. I can live without a Porsche 911. I can't live without my young, sexy, little, Asian bunnies.

"I spent half my money on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The other half I wasted. " -W.C. Fields.

"I would rather have two girls at 21 each than one girl at 42. " -W.C. Fields.

Great report, Rye!!

[QUOTE=RyeHumor63;2062386]Yesterday, after a business conference up near the Thai Cultural Center, I decided to walk up to the Lord, and get a personal introduction to the establishment. As I came upon it, I was impressed by its sheer size. It looked very much like Rio in Macau. On entering, I was greeted by various people and eventually introduced to the Mamasan. The place is vast and while it has a upmarket feel, it isn't quite the luxury that I get in Macau. There when you go in, after gambling, you get pampered before you even lay eyes on a girl, this includes being showered by others, a hot pool to relax in etc (there is an entrance fee to cover this.), In The Lord, you basically come in and face the girls.

The system is fairly straight forward, not ideal in my view. But anyway there are 7 letters available. For westerners (who I hear pay more? Prices start at THB4300 and go up to THB11,300. This is all inclusive for the room and for the girl for 90 minutes. The price depends on the letter. The letter I have been told is assigned by the mamasan to each girl (it can change) and seems to depend not only on looks, but education, poise, height and some other qualities. I decided for my first visit I would stick in the middle of the range, which basically meant M,K, or I think X. (not sure of the last one).

The girls are all in dresses, all wear makeup (that they don't take off, even lipstick.), have heels on and all are pretty nice. I couldn't really say that a girl at the top end is vastly superior (yes, better) than a girl at the bottom, but my intention is to try 3 times the full range and then we will see.

When I arrived at 5:05, I was the only guy there. At my disposal were about 30 girls. (this number rises to 45 at 6:45 which seems to be the peak time). All of the girls either sit in a semi circle next to each other, or stand on the left as you go in (sit to). All are Asian, but I don't think all are thai. In fact I am pretty sure there were some Koreans as well as Japanese in the line up as well. I would say that among them, perhaps 1/7 would prefer not to be selected by a Western guy. I got this from body language, but maybe I was over reading the room.

When I go to high end places elsewhere, one of the major advantages they offer is that you can see every girl because they all get up (at fixed times) and parade. This way you actually can see someone front / back as well as get a much closer look at their face. They don't do this at Lord which is a shame (for one guy at least), so it took me a bit of time to select as I had to look at every girl's badge (to figure out her price) and then compare girls that were all in my price point. Anyway, based on eye contact, smile, and face (probably more than body.) I selected AUM.

Now I am not a giant guy (1. 75), but I realized when she got up that AUM is very small, probably 1. 53/1. 55 at most. I have this habit (not easily explained) of picking small girls. So AUM was pretty much a type that I have a lot of experience with (which isn't always a great thing). In any case, choice made, I went to the cashier, paid the Thb6400, paid the room charge (thb400) and then set off with AUM, holding my hand like a GF.

We entered room 10, which was nicely set up, with a large bath / jacuzzi, a shower area, and a large superking bed. I ordered a beer and AUM got everything started, told me to relax etc. This I did, though punters should keep in mind that these kinds of places are "clock watchers", not the girls, but the management, thus at best if they say 1. 5 hrs, you will get 15 min extra unless you give the ladies at the front a 1,000 baht to relax.

So to the details of the experience.

AUM without her clothes on is small breasted (but firm), with a pretty face, nice hair etc. She isn't in great shape, not fat or anything but she has a small baby belly. Thus on my scale, probably a 7. (yes I would glance at her on the Street but wouldn't follow it up.) She wasn't 100% shaven but had a good grooming. Which was a bit of a surprise to me (as not often the standard in Asia.).

We shared a few kisses (with / without tongue) outside of the bath, and then got in it so AUM could do her thing. This (for about 20 minutes) consists of a full wash. Front and back. A blowjob (skillfully performed with lots of eye contact) and body to body (using her breasts). I lot AUM do her thing without much interruption on my part, except to linger over her various erogenous parts from time to time.

Bath completed, we dried up and started making out (not in the bed). Making out went on to mutual touching. AUM has a very sweet and responsive pussy. Lubricates nicely to the touch, and she has a sensitive clit as well as nipples on her breasts. I was getting horny, and had she been my girlfriend, I probably just would have picked her up and impaled her on my cock, but of course, this is a safe environment. Etc.

Thus I did lift her up but placed her on the bed, and then spent time exploring her body with kisses, tongue and teasing her with my cock as well. That was fun, and AUM enjoyed the build up. She didn't stop me from doing anything until she had an orgasm (from tongue and fingers), and then wanted to return the favor. So we switched positions and she started giving me a proper blowjob. She used quite a bit of saliva and though I don't think she get do a true DT, the girl does have skills which includes sucking your balls, licking the shaft etc.

I was getting closer by this time, so we decided to go to intercourse. This wasn't a straight forward situation because this is a girl with a very small pussy, and I am not a guy, so the girls keep telling me, with a small cock. It has gotten to the point where I bring my own condoms, and spend a good amount of time easing the girls into sex, rather than just going deep straight away. With AUM it took the later approach, which started with very slow doggie on the end of the bed, and then moved to her getting on top, squatting as well as cowgirls, and finally ended with a form of missionary. AUM has got of energy (got thing) and eventually after about 15 minutes of various positions, we found a connection, as she adjusted to my girth (always do) and stopped worrying about whether she was going to be able to do her 3 sessions! As this started to happen, a few things changed. 1) She stopped merely receiving and started responding in rhythm 2) her pussy muscles started to contract a lot harder 3) she started to moan, and thrash about under me. These events turned the experience itself from yet another lukewarm exercise into something much better and eventually after a lot more pounding and a lot more thrashing, moaning, and tightening, we actually nearly came together.

At that point we had 10 minutes on the clock, so I had AUM give me a quick massage, and we then had a clean up, had a quick kiss, and departed the room.

Given that I have now tried 10 massage places of various prices. Locations, types etc, I would not say that it was the best, from a pure service perspective, but it definitely was high end, and the overall calibre of the girl, in terms of engagement, education, attentiveness, and service was very good (on par without the gimmicks to Rio).

As I said I will go back again (unless the community gives me high end alternatives, I have tried Poseidon (upstairs. And some girls of same quality) and report further.[/QUOTE]

Natty:

LaBelle used to be my favorite-good-looking girls and great service. I haven't been there in a couple of years, but I was planning on going back until I read your review. Here are my questions: (1) Why do you think LaBelle has changed? (2) How can a soapy control what a girl does in the private room? (3) Why do you think LaBelle has gone down and the Lord has gone up? I will be trying the Lord this week and will leave a report. I may also pay a visit to La Belle.

QUOTE=Natty Bumpo.

The only soapy I know where I have had consistently GREAT service no matter who I was with is the Lord. But the Lord price is high. So, I ask you, theoretically speaking, what would you rather do; spend two more nights like the one you reported on in the hope of finding a hot, sexy girl who does you right and spend around 9000 baht total in the search, or spend 5000 bt or 6000 bt for sex crazed girl who is going to make passionate love to your dick with her mouth 3 times during the session, lick your ass, DFK like there is no tomorrow, and end up shagging you like you are, for lack of a better word, a Lord? For me the answer to that question is a given. For example, on my last trip, I averaged a visit to the Lord once every week for the 5 weeks I was in BKK. I would have spent more time at the Lord, but it's kind of like eating at a fine dining Michelin 3 star restaurant. You can't do it every night. It's too much. Yet every Lord girl I was with was a little different, but each one gave me a memorable session. I always left that place feeling good / really good, so it was definitely worth the price as far as I am concerned.

In sharp contrast, I also paid a visit to an old favorite soapy of mine called La Belle. In the past, I have had some truly great sessions in La Belle with some real foxes. This time I took a very attractive girl upstairs for around 3200 bt or 3800 bt, I forget. But the session was barely acceptable and I remembered why La Belle is no longer my favorite place and the Lord is. So, my very attractive La Belle girl possessed a very pretty face and a smokin' hot body. As far as looks are concerned she was as pretty or more so than my Lord girls. The session started out slow as we waited for the tub to fill as contrasted to ALL my Lord sessions where the girl is immediately taking off my pants and blowing me as soon as the door closes while the tub fills. Anyway, the La Belle girl was very good in the tub, but the list of her no's began to mount as the session progressed: first there was no tongue, then no DATY (a real give away because if a soapy girl does not.

So, I just write this post to let you know there is at least one great soapy still in town with great girls. Yes, I have had great times in La Belle and other soapies around town and I am pretty sure that if I went to La Belle a few more times this last trip, I would have eventually hooked up with the right girl and had some more really good times, but I hate those mediocre sessions at any price. I think they are a big waste of my time and money.

Was drinking my Lipo in front of 7/11 down bts Thonglor on Saturday afternoon when I saw that girl with a naughty look entering the shop. She was not a stunner but one kind that I like to have a look at when I see them walking. Around 1. 65 metres not skinny nor fat, long light colored hairs and a MILF-like face. She was on her phone while buying her stuffs and not caring anyone around her. I thought to myself that I would gladly fuck that girl if given the chance. Then I waited and looked where she was going and she entered the Pretty Massage shop from behind. A few minutes later I was there looking at the pics of their girls. I spotted her on their pics even though her face looks better on pics. At that time they also had 2 other girls that looked not bad at all. Finally I chose a 2 hour massage for 2400 baht. Her name is Lucky and you can see her pics on their website. Her face looks a bit like Sai's pics but larger (and more chubby) and some holes or old acne scars. I would not say that she is pretty but rather fuckable. She was shy to undress and kept the room dark for the shower but I could have my hands all over her during that time.

She is a good alternative for guys tired of small and skinny with flat ass girls. She comes from Chiang Rai, has a white beautiful skin, no scars (except some on her face), big false boobs, a round firm belly (not fat, but more like some athletic girls, no baby damage), a very nice big and firm ass, and beautiful firm legs. She says she is 29 but I would say around 35. She is experienced as she is working there on part time for about a year. For the ones that are curious about her pussy, she is not shaved but it's certainly not a jungle down there. Her English is probably limited as most of the girls in that shop.

We laid down and after a good chitchat we went for a long and passionate DFK, then a good DATY. She likes it as she is not the hardest to make cum by DATY. Then I went up and kissed her again and slowly brought my dick near her face. Long and soft BJ that felt very good. That position is great to be sucked because when it becomes too exciting we can move a bit or take it out a few seconds to enjoy her BJ for a longer time. Eventually I couldn't hold it anymore and did a CIM.

She went quickly in the shower and told me it's the first time she does it. It is certainly not the first time that a girl tells me this in that shop, but when it's said with a big smile who cares if it's a BS?

Then we took around 30 min of chitchat until I engaged the second round. It started again with a long DFK but that time I lied on her while I wasn't yet hard, and kept kissing each other while I was moving my dick around her pussy until it became hard. Condom on and we went for mish for some time, then her legs on my shoulders and quickly after we turned in doggy without even taking my dick out of her. It was a great feeling, that big ass in my hands, that beautifully shaped back with these long light colored hairs. All in it was a very pleasurable experience, and the idea of seing an attractive girl in the street and fucking her a few minutes later was certainly part of it. I would recommend her for guys that are bored of the small and skinny girls with a flat ass.

Price 2400 baht 2 hours.

WIR? Yes if I don't see another good looking girl in the line up.

[QUOTE=Canyon;2062851]

LaBelle used to be my favorite-good-looking girls and great service. I haven't been there in a couple of years, but I was planning on going back until I read your review. Here are my questions: (1) Why do you think LaBelle has changed? (2) How can a soapy control what a girl does in the private room? (3) Why do you think LaBelle has gone down and the Lord has gone up? I will be trying the Lord this week and will leave a report. I may also pay a visit to La Belle.
[/QUOTE]La Belle is still worth going to IMHO because they still have some very good-looking girls in the lineup. My complaint is La Belle service varies widely girl to girl from just ok to great. I think the sideline girls are probably your best bet, but they are more expensive and who knows what will happen in the La Belle Room. The Lord girls, on the other hand, always have given me very good to really great (outrageously naughty) enthusiastic service. In other words, I have found much less variance in quality at the Lord. Thus, my comment that it's almost a sure thing there.

I believe that the management gets all the credit. You see the difference in the Lord management style in little things and really important things like for example how the tub is always half full of warm water when you enter the room. That takes effort and attention to detail. Water does not stay warm in a tub for very long, so the staff must be working constantly to make sure there are enough rooms with warm water 1/2 filled tubs available for customers. What other massage shop pays such attention to detail? None that I know of.

The more important issue, of course, is keeping the girls focused on giving the customer a certain level of service without coasting, or getting lazy, or spoiled. I do not know the exact methods Lord Management uses, but apparently, they run a pretty tight ship over there. One example is the mamasan or papasan who originally waits on me almost always comes over to me afterwards in the reception room to ask how things were and how my girl was. Sure, they are fishing for a tip, which I almost always give them (100 baht), but I believe they are also checking for customer satisfaction. That seems to matter at this particular place. The hosts or hostesses also remember my previous choices and when I return they ask if I want the same girl again, a similar type girl, or someone completley diferent. That is another nice personal touch and it shows me they want to make sure I have a quality good time whenever I visit.

Bottom line, I think La Belle girls and Lord girls both receive sexual training on what to do and how to do it at the begining of their tenures at their respective bordellos. The difference is the Lord management somehow keeps its girls in line and makes sure no one shirks their duties while La Belle management seems to have a looser management style and thus kind of lets their girls pretty much do what they want to do in the loom. Anyway, that's how it appears to me.

On my last trip, I wanted to check out Merci and Madam. I have heard the quality is good at Merci. But every time I got off at either the Thai Cultural Center MRT station or the Huai Khwang MRT station I always headed back to the Lord. Ha Ha. But, I plan to check out one of the new places on my next trip. Emmanuelle (Amsterdam) is in the same neighborhood. You might want to check that place too, but I don't see how they can improve on the Lord except with a different, hopefully equally attractive girl or two. Lastly, Copa Cabana is a good place to go. It's is in the Lord group. Not the flagship, but not as expensive, so worth checking out. And La Belle, I still have not written that place off completely because they do have some stunners there and service with a La Belle stunner can be great, say 50% of the time. The trick would be to find a great one early in your trip thus making worthwhile repeats possible.

So, have a great trip. I look forward to reading your report and seeing how you made out. I wish I was in BKK right now!

NB.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2063044]La Belle is still worth going to IMHO because they still have some very good-looking girls in the lineup. My complaint is La Belle service varies widely girl to girl from just ok to great. I think the sideline girls are probably your best bet, but they are more expensive and who knows what will happen in the La Belle Room. The Lord girls, on the other hand, always have given me very good to really great (outrageously naughty) enthusiastic service. In other words, I have found much less variance in quality at the Lord. Thus, my comment that it's almost a sure thing there.

I believe that the management gets all the credit. You see the difference in the Lord management style in little things and really important things like for example how the tub is always half full of warm water when you enter the room. That takes effort and attention to detail. Water does not stay warm in a tub for very long, so the staff must be working constantly to make sure there are enough rooms with warm water 1/2 filled tubs available for customers. What other massage shop pays such attention to detail? None that I know of.

The more important issue, of course, is keeping the girls focused on giving the customer a certain level of service without coasting, or getting lazy, or spoiled. I do not know the exact methods Lord Management uses, but apparently, they run a pretty tight ship over there. One example is the mamasan or papasan who originally waits on me almost always comes over to me afterwards in the reception room to ask how things were and how my girl was. Sure, they are fishing for a tip, which I almost always give them (100 baht), but I believe they are also checking for customer satisfaction. That seems to matter at this particular place. The hosts or hostesses also remember my previous choices and when I return they ask if I want the same girl again, a similar type girl, or someone completley diferent. That is another nice personal touch and it shows me they want to make sure I have a quality good time whenever I visit.

Bottom line, I think La Belle girls and Lord girls both receive sexual training on what to do and how to do it at the begining of their tenures at their respective bordellos. The difference is the Lord management somehow keeps its girls in line and makes sure no one shirks their duties while La Belle management seems to have a looser management style and thus kind of lets their girls pretty much do what they want to do in the loom. Anyway, that's how it appears to me.

On my last trip, I wanted to check out Merci and Madam. I have heard the quality is good at Merci. But every time I got off at either the Thai Cultural Center MRT station or the Huai Khwang MRT station I always headed back to the Lord. Ha Ha. But, I plan to check out one of the new places on my next trip. Emmanuelle (Amsterdam) is in the same neighborhood. You might want to check that place too, but I don't see how they can improve on the Lord except with a different, hopefully equally attractive girl or two. Lastly, Copa Cabana is a good place to go. It's is in the Lord group. Not the flagship, but not as expensive, so worth checking out. And La Belle, I still have not written that place off completely because they do have some stunners there and service with a La Belle stunner can be great, say 50% of the time. The trick would be to find a great one early in your trip thus making worthwhile repeats possible.

So, have a great trip. I look forward to reading your report and seeing how you made out. I wish I was in BKK right now!

NB.[/QUOTE]Do Lord girls do CIM?

[QUOTE=Gannaton48;2063121]Do Lord girls do CIM?[/QUOTE]Maybe, I don't know. CIM is not on my to do list. I much prefer CIV or CIP. 555. And I don't know with absolute certainty, but I kind of doubt anal sex is on the menu of most, if not all the Lord girls, however, several of my Lord girls initiated, all on their own,a rim job on me which led to some pretty gnarly no holes barred 69's. But I always ended with vaginal sex because that is what I like. All my Lord girls asked me to wear a condom before vaginal penetration began. I complied naturally and used Sagami 0.01 & Sagami 0.02 L for all my encounters (vaginal sex) at the Lord.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2054023]Had a short stopover in BKK back in early March and didn't have much time to look around. Headed back there for a cheap and cheerful session and picked one OK curvy 30 something MILF for the massage and Fuck. The session is actually 700 to her and I tipped her an extra 300.

Very good investment it turned out to be as she showed me on her phone, Photos of really young pretty things who will do outcall to my place ST for 2500. Most probably through an agency they would cost a lot more.

Told her straight, if girls turn out to be bait and switch or fake photos, I will send them away with no taxi money. Tried 2 girls from her phone and was very pleasantly surprised. Very good deal.

The cashier, Mamasan will also show you her collection of girls for outtcall once she recognizes your face on a return visit to the sauna.[/QUOTE]Thanks for piquing my interest!

[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2062532]I've searched reports from last two years. Lots of reports of these places going downhill but are pretty old reports. A quick look at websites shows many ladies right up my alley. More so Copa Cabana. Many 18-23. More concerned with ladies being younger vs skills or experience. I have saved plenty for this dream trip so price is irrelevant. So I will be reporting on these places at the end of August. Any other places that fellow mongers would like an updated report on? Plan on being very active on my first trip. Might give the different style Pimp and other similar G clubs a try. Seems I'd be better off lighting money on fire from reports. But looking for them stunners.[/QUOTE]I have not been to Victoria Secret for a long time and never took a girl there, as line ups were probably too small, or maybe I took a non memorable girl and Alzheimers made me forget her quickly. I believe I never attended there late enough to give it a good chance. Was always there in daytime.

I have called in Copa Cabana recently. This place used to be one of my favourites. I can confirm that it has declined badly. Very few girls these days and weak line up. I won't waste my time to go there any more. Malibu closed completely. Emmanuelle has improved after amalgamating with Amsterdam girls. Poseidon has a reasonable sized line up. Ocean is worth a try. Good price and quite a good line up. Was less impressed by Merci (Maxi) as line up is smaller. I will also probably try Evita and Meree again because got lucky there last time. My Lord girl was disappointing but will try again.

Also looked in Hi Class recently and line up was sizeable but no quality girls at all. Rather Low Class to my eye.

[QUOTE=Canyon;2062851]Natty:

LaBelle used to be my favorite-good-looking girls and great service. I haven't been there in a couple of years, but I was planning on going back until I read your review. Here are my questions: (1) Why do you think LaBelle has changed? (2) How can a soapy control what a girl does in the private room? (3) Why do you think LaBelle has gone down and the Lord has gone up? I will be trying the Lord this week and will leave a report. I may also pay a visit to La Belle.

[/QUOTE]Utopia was a shop that declined badly in recent years. Some of their girls moved to sister club La Belle.

I only ever had one girl I repeated at La Belle and in the end she was no longer good enough to repeat. I am cursed with the problem of being slightly over endowed, and often meet dick scared girls in the Soapies. Also La Belle had a lot of fake surgeries girls which were not my spec, so was very common that papasan would recommend certain girls that just did not appeal to me at all. I don't like the tubs at La Belle at all. I think an Oily MP that has a Nuru body slide and Jacuzzi tub can be a good option for me. My prime concern though, as always, is to find superior looking model types that really like dick (not such an easy assignment) and can give me a real fun time. This means on finding the fun girls, I have to stick to them.

Has La Belle actually gone down hill? I think it never reached the popularity heights that the owners intended. The whole Soapy scene has declined.

Even though my first Lord girl was not GFE and I would not repeat, she was still better than plenty of La Belle girls that I tried.

I don't see any great reason for you to try other shops if you are very happy with the Lord girls.

I recommend Emmanuelle as a slightly cheaper option than the Lord, or Ocean, Meree and Evita as very cheap options for those on a budget. If the cost is not an issue, I would say stick to the Lord.

I am better off going to bars or Oilies or freelancers on the street, and choosing girls who have almost all of their customers being Farangs, because I meet less problems with being dick scared this way. Rarely even meet a girl who actually prefers my size.

Natty:

I took your advice and visited the Lord yesterday. You're right about the upscale feeling. All the furniture and decorations are very nice and project an aura of elegance. The staff was also very helpful. The girls were very attractive for the most part. There were about 20 to choose from when I was there around 5 pm on Thursday. Of the 20 ladies, two were stunning and I had a hard time making a decision. I finally picked Ning (M-24) whose rate was 5,800 baht. She was young and slim with a very pretty face. I was really excited about my session with her.

In the room, she started drawing the water right away in a tub that had already been half-filled-just as Natty described. I undressed while she got ready. It was with eager anticipation that I got into the tub. That was the high point of the encounter. It was all down hill from there.

I tried to cuddle with her in the tub, but she brushed off my embraces. She had me lay down with my head on the cushion on the tub. She began a very mechanical blowjob. Usually, the BJ is one of my favorite things, but in this case, I didn't really enjoy it. She sucked me, but there was just no feeling behind it. After a while, she started washing me, but again, it was very mechanical and inspired no feeling.

Out of the tub and into the bed, I tried to hug and kiss her, but she brushed me off. I said OK--no kissing--but she didn't even seem to want to be hugged. She didn't respond to my initiatives, but just took control. She did give me another BJ on the bed, but again it was very mechanical and did not feel very good. By this time, I was having trouble maintaining my erection. (To be fair, I had just had a long, energetic and enjoyable sex session the previous day, so I was not as horny, as I otherwise might have been.).

In an effort to get a hard-on, I turned her over on her stomach and placed my cock in the crack on her bottom. This gave me a mild erection. After that, she sucked me some more, I got a little harder, and finally stuck my cock in her pussy. It was not a pleasant experience and I felt that she was just going through the motions. After about an hour in the room, she said we should shower. We were only in the room for 60 minutes, so she definitely shorted me 30 minutes of the agreed 90 minutes.

This was the worst experience I had in Bangkok this trip, and one of the worst experiences I have had in Bangkok. My experiences at LaBelle have been much better.

Natty, I want to make it clear that I'm not blaming you for the bad experience at the Lord. This is only one session with one girl, so it's not a statistically valid sample. I'm just reporting on the disappointing experience. I'm posting this, so people can see that there's no guarantee of a good session at the Lord. YMMV.

My advice is to avoid the siren song of Ning (M-24) and her price of 5,800 baht. She's certainly a beauty, but not a warm person.

[QUOTE=Canyon;2063294]Natty:

I took your advice and visited the Lord yesterday. You're right about the upscale feeling. All the furniture and decorations are very nice and project an aura of elegance. The staff was also very helpful. The girls were very attractive for the most part. There were about 20 to choose from when I was there around 5 pm on Thursday. Of the 20 ladies, two were stunning and I had a hard time making a decision. I finally picked Ning (M-24) whose rate was 5,800 baht. She was young and slim with a very pretty face. I was really excited about my session with her.

In the room, she started drawing the water right away in a tub that had already been half-filled-just as Natty described. I undressed while she got ready. It was with eager anticipation that I got into the tub. That was the high point of the encounter. It was all down hill from there.

I tried to cuddle with her in the tub, but she brushed off my embraces. She had me lay down with my head on the cushion on the tub. She began a very mechanical blowjob. Usually, the BJ is one of my favorite things, but in this case, I didn't really enjoy it. She sucked me, but there was just no feeling behind it. After a while, she started washing me, but again, it was very mechanical and inspired no feeling.

Out of the tub and into the bed, I tried to hug and kiss her, but she brushed me off. I said OK--no kissing--but she didn't even seem to want to be hugged. She didn't respond to my initiatives, but just took control. She did give me another BJ on the bed, but again it was very mechanical and did not feel very good. By this time, I was having trouble maintaining my erection. (To be fair, I had just had a long, energetic and enjoyable sex session the previous day, so I was not as horny, as I otherwise might have been.).

In an effort to get a hard-on, I turned her over on her stomach and placed my cock in the crack on her bottom. This gave me a mild erection. After that, she sucked me some more, I got a little harder, and finally stuck my cock in her pussy. It was not a pleasant experience and I felt that she was just going through the motions. After about an hour in the room, she said we should shower. We were only in the room for 60 minutes, so she definitely shorted me 30 minutes of the agreed 90 minutes.

This was the worst experience I had in Bangkok this trip, and one of the worst experiences I have had in Bangkok. My experiences at LaBelle have been much better.

Natty, I want to make it clear that I'm not blaming you for the bad experience at the Lord. This is only one session with one girl, so it's not a statistically valid sample. I'm just reporting on the disappointing experience. I'm posting this, so people can see that there's no guarantee of a good session at the Lord. YMMV.

My advice is to avoid the siren song of Ning (M-24) and her price of 5,800 baht. She's certainly a beauty, but not a warm person.[/QUOTE]I'm sure this was a case of YMMV. For future, why not end the session and go down to choose again. Ask the staff who is more Farang Friendly. Sometimes asking for this advice goes a long way. When I choose girls in any massage shop, I look for eye contact and a smile. If I don't get it, I don't choose her.

[QUOTE=Canyon;2063294]Natty:
I tried to cuddle with her in the tub, but she brushed off my embraces. She had me lay down with my head on the cushion on the tub.
Out of the tub and into the bed, I tried to hug and kiss her, but she brushed me off. I said OK--no kissing--but she didn't even seem to want to be hugged. [/QUOTE]Unless it's a specific of a training program which few if any P4P business's in Thailand operate, kissing and hugging are far from a given no matter where you visit or how much you pay. I would say less than 20% of girls have it as part of their skill set and are disproportionately found in the so called PSE shops and with Hi end experienced escorts. Even when available it can often be so contrived as to be sexually meaningless.

No actual data to support but my sense is that culturally neither Thai girls nor Thai boys are that much into kissing even when they are in relationships.

Personally I don't look for it so no disappointment if it's not forthcoming. I prefer sucking erect nipples and clitoris's rather than tongues unless there is some semblance of genuine affection which happens with my regulars but only occasionally with a new try out.

So I would suggest not to automatically expect it, relax and don't allow its absence to detract from the enjoyment of shagging a beautiful young body that you have just paid 5800 to spend 90 minutes with.