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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1643333]The protocol is you pay her LT fee and enjoy the GFE service and company. Don't screw it up.[/QUOTE]I agree. I wouldn't attempt to renegotiate fee unless you were keeping her for an extended period. One or two more days not worth ruining the mood.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1643320]BW,
For what you got at the price you pay and I'm sure someone will chime the opposite! You got a deal![/QUOTE]Spend 3 full days with a 40 yo MILF? Not really my Christmas come early sort of thing. Never mind whatever the price. But to each his own. LOL!
Toumai
[QUOTE=FeelzGood;1643291]The science of the 80/20 rule.
GO-GO"s.
80% of the time if you Bar fine a lady from a "top 25" Go-Go club in Pattaya, you will pay top dollar and get good service that you have negotiated upfront.
20% of the time if you Bar fine a lady from a "top 25" Go-Go club, you will pay top dollar and get below average service that you thought you have already agreed to upfront, and at worse you pick a starfish.[/QUOTE]Interesting analysis! However I really think the above should be the other way around ánd it should be something like 5% versus 95% (5% give good service, 95% give bad service).
[QUOTE=BushWhack;1643302]Arrived Friday around 6, quickly to Walking Street to hear some live music (great rock band in a bar just across from Crazy House). Directly next to the live music bar is a tiny hole-in-the-wall bar called "Ring the Bell Bar", and yes, they have a bell. One lady with beautiful legs sitting on the first stool at the entrance, I walked by to check her three times, third time she gives me a great smile, so in I go.
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In summary three nights, two full days of kissing, cuddling, sexy GFE with a really sweet 40 year old, 4,500 Baht. I'm curious, when you guys keep a girl for longer than one night do you give less money for subsequent nights? I was tempted to do this but didn't want to ruin the mood (she might have felt OK about it but I would feel guilty). What's the protocol?[/QUOTE]Sounds familliar. Will you care to post or PM a pic?
[QUOTE=BushWhack;1643302]In summary three nights, two full days of kissing, cuddling, sexy GFE with a really sweet 40 year old, 4,500 Baht. I'm curious, when you guys keep a girl for longer than one night do you give less money for subsequent nights? I was tempted to do this but didn't want to ruin the mood (she might have felt OK about it but I would feel guilty). What's the protocol?[/QUOTE]The protocol is "there is no protocol". It is whatever you both can agree to. Personally, I either make an "all inclusive deal for the whole period" (but I will do so only if I am pretty sure of her and her services) or I pay on a day by day basis extending the deal as I fancy and as she is available. All days are paid the same amount in this case, as you I am paying for her time on a day-by-day basis.
But even with an "all exclusive" deal, I tend to pay her by daily installments. I find it keeps everyone honest and trustworthy. But as I said, such V (ery) LT is only for girls I know better and then of course there is already a certain level of mutual understanding that forms the basis for the arrangement.
I go to Baccara tonight for happy hour. The first ticket is 75 baht for house spirits which is the normal charge. I don't notice the 2nd ticket. The 3rd ticket is 80 baht and then I notice that the 2nd ticket is also 80 baht. I tell the waiter it should be 75 baht as it is happy hour. He takes the tickets and changes the 1st one from 75 to 80 baht. WTF! They changed the happy hour price in the middle of happy hour. I told the waiter this is bullshit. He laughed. It just shows me how much Baccara loves their regular customers. I'm less than a piece of shit to them. And I won't forget it.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1643539]I go to Baccara tonight for happy hour. The first ticket is 75 baht for house spirits which is the normal charge. I don't notice the 2nd ticket. The 3rd ticket is 80 baht and then I notice that the 2nd ticket is also 80 baht. I tell the waiter it should be 75 baht as it is happy hour. He takes the tickets and changes the 1st one from 75 to 80 baht. WTF! They changed the happy hour price in the middle of happy hour. I told the waiter this is bullshit. He laughed. It just shows me how much Baccara loves their regular customers. I'm less than a piece of shit to them. And I won't forget it.[/QUOTE]Again, goes to prove, most establishments (esp the Go-Gos) are too engrossed in running a con in Pattaya (hoping that customers don't notice and even if they do they don't care).
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1643608]Again, goes to prove, most establishments (esp the Go-Gos) are too engrossed in running a con in Pattaya (hoping that customers don't notice and even if they do they don't care).[/QUOTE]Baccara is a favorite of mine. I don't think they're running a con. Had I known in advance that the price was now up another 5 baht I would have been OK with that as 5 baht is not worth fretting about.
But it wasn't long ago that happy hour drinks were 50 baht in Baccara. Now its 80 baht. ST with a stunner was 1000 baht. Now its 2000. Everything I admit is still a bargain but the cost of entertainment in Pattaya is creeping up.
Baccara and Happy are packed with Asian customers every night and they spend big time and chain smoke like fools. The bar knows it can afford to raise prices and these punters will still come in herds.
I'll keep coming too. The pussy is top notch and getting better all the time. I'll put up with a lot of bullshit for that.
[QUOTE=BushWhack;1643302]In summary three nights, two full days of kissing, cuddling, sexy GFE with a really sweet 40 year old, 4,500 Baht. I'm curious, when you guys keep a girl for longer than one night do you give less money for subsequent nights? I was tempted to do this but didn't want to ruin the mood (she might have felt OK about it but I would feel guilty). What's the protocol?[/QUOTE]I think it would be reasonable to negotiate something in advance if you knew you were going to keep her for a few days. But I wouldn't short-change her after the event.
But it sounds like you got a great bargain. Sure, you could perhaps have paid £10 less over 3 days, but why would you want to? And of course she is looking forward to seeing you next time!
[QUOTE=FeelzGood;1643291]The science of the 80/20 rule.
The old common sense 80/20 Rule is alive and well in Pattaya!
So before you disagree with me and attempt to flame me, realize you are a 20%'er whether you know it or not. Because 80% of Pattaya mongers will agree with me and the rule, and 20% of Pattaya mongers won't. It really doesn't matter, remember it's all about the money and having some fun, IMHO the 80/20 rule is alive in Pattaya! Have fun and be safe.[/QUOTE]I like that: 'If you disagree with me, by definition you are wrong!' Can't argue with that; literally. Well, it might be common-sense, but it's certainly not science.
All you are saying is that sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. And just to prove the fallacy, there are plenty of girls that switch between beer bars and go-go bars. Do they suddenly switch from being 20% providers to 80% providers, to use your terms, overnight? Of course not. There are things that you can do to improve your chances of having a good time, but by far and away the most important is being nice to the girls and having a bit of 'good heart'. I'm guessing that you don't consider yourself 'old, fat or ugly', but you might be surprised at how little the girls care about such things.
[QUOTE=FeelzGood;1643291]The old common sense 80/20 Rule is alive and well in Pattaya![/QUOTE]Your rule seems to suggest that the more you pay the better the service, and thus recommends patronizing a-go-gos.
Alas, good service is dependent upon the desperation (that is, un-marketability) of the provider, not the motivation of the customer (paying a lot). Good looking young girls have a plethora of customers even at the higher price level which prevails for such rarities. There's never really any great motivation or reason for them to provide excellent service.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1644236]There are things that you can do to improve your chances of having a good time, but by far and away the most important is being nice to the girls ...[/QUOTE]Absolutely right on. I can only base my opinion on my own experiences in Pattaya where I have a 99.95% positive ratio with the girls I barfine regardless of whether I take them from Go Go's, Beer Bars, or Soi 6. Number 1 is have a good attitude, Duh! And act like you are having fun. LOL. Number 2 is be friendly and generous with a drink or two while interviewing and screening prospective girls. Take a little time to get to know them. Meanwhile look for any bad signs or tells from the girl and if found politely disengage. Don't be uptight or paranoid. If everything appears to be good, it most likely is. Number 3 is to always present yourself properly with good hygiene and clean clothes. Body odor or bad breath will drown your experiences with Thai girls.
Everybody can occasionally have a bad bar girl experience. I am probably over due for one. But punters that come on the forum consistently complaining that Thai girls are shit or Go Go girls provide lousy service usually have only themselves to blame. They most likely violated one or more of the 3 rules stated above.
Hi guys,
I have some question; when you spend the longer time 4 or 5 days with one girl in Pattaya how often do you have sex with this girl, every morning and evening or also during the day time?
I am asking you because I will spend my holiday in Pattaya and I would like to get some information based on your experiences.
It's all about the money. Being nice is a given and goes without mentioning. But, I have seen some ladies that are attracted to bad boy assholes, very very few though, and it is a female mystery that has defied analysis. If a lady goes from a GoGo to work a beer bar, I agree there is a few, she is not going to get the 3000-4000 take out fee at the beer bar that she normally could of gotten at a GoGo. Let's say on average anyway, but maybe there are exceptions out there but I haven't heard of any. Does the lower take out fee hinder her performance. I guess it could happen, but maybe not, and she always gives incredible GFE. Old fashioned luck might play a part with a successful episode with a lady, but when you look back, were you nice, did you express that you have a good heart, did you make her laugh, were you generous, etc. Call it luck if you want. Being a 20% doesn't mean you are wrong, just that you have experienced the scene differently and don't agree. That's cool. But the 80/20 rule lives.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1644236]I like that: 'If you disagree with me, by definition you are wrong!' Can't argue with that; literally. Well, it might be common-sense, but it's certainly not science.
All you are saying is that sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. And just to prove the fallacy, there are plenty of girls that switch between beer bars and go-go bars. Do they suddenly switch from being 20% providers to 80% providers, to use your terms, overnight? Of course not. There are things that you can do to improve your chances of having a good time, but by far and away the most important is being nice to the girls and having a bit of 'good heart'. I'm guessing that you don't consider yourself 'old, fat or ugly', but you might be surprised at how little the girls care about such things.[/QUOTE]
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