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I am not a drinker either but I do enjoy light drinking with meal.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2744105]...so you were lucky to get a walkup table. ....[/QUOTE]I almost never go to places that require me to book too far ahead simply because I never book in advance that way. I sent Mani message around 5 PM, and there was one table available at 8 PM that I took. If I had to book in the morning to get a table, then I probably won't go unless it is with a friend. I post image here just for my own memory.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2744105]...
Uh. More girls than Scandallo? Casarao is like like 1/5th to 1/8th the size of Scandallo. And that's AFTER NOT INCLUDING the RESTAURANT in Scandallo.,,[/QUOTE]The most I have gone was 3 nights in one week. I counted the number of girls almost every time because I have nothing better to do. On one Tuesday there were at least 150 girls conservatively speaking. That is the most I have observed. Around 10 PM the restaurant was full because I could not find a table to have dinner, and there was a line waiting for the room upstairs when I went with a girl. The girl quality was very hight that I had several candidates. I guess this is the type of nights many were talking about before Pandemic. This is the night that changed my view.

I don't think there were more than 100 girls in several slow nights that I went. The slowest night was a cold Wednesday that outdoor area were closed. Most regulars I recognize were not in the club. The club area was half empty when I saw it from upstairs. Casarao were frequently packed during weeknights so it could have more girls relatively speaking. Also it started very late. I reported a live sex show started around 4 AM.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2744105]...I am not sure if that's what you mean by "the difficulty negotiating service with the girls", ...[/QUOTE]It takes more work or negotiation to get BBBJ, for example, or kissing. I don't remember a time I was refused either at Scandallo, and usually the girl just start making out with me in the club. I took a girl who agreed to kissing but won't do it in the club. She did not do it in the room either. I am 100% at Scandallo percentagewise.

First of all, SocratesNY — great report. It sucks that we missed each other by a few days and maybe next time we can plan a get together.

Arrived at Scandello approx at 915 pm and walked around for a bit. It was slow and there weren't a lot of girls. So I picked a spot at the lobby bar and ordered a beer. I was going to take it slow tonight because I wanted to find a gem that checks off my list. I haven't been to Scandello since February and I wanted to find someone who would be enjoyable to spend time with.

I talked to approx 10 girls in the first two hours but none suited my fancy. The first few conversations lasted less than 5 mins due to the fact that the girl just couldn't get keep the conversation going. It was very forced. I would walk around every once in a while and saw some that were very pretty and some that I didn't know why they were there. There is really something for everyone here. By the end of the night, there must have been over 300 girls here in all flavors.

As the dance floor area started to get crowded, I went for a walk thru and immediately saw one that caught my attention and gave her a smile. But I kept walking since the crowd and noise wasn't my cup of tea. So went back to the bar to sit down. And within 5-10 mins comes the girl who caught my attention and she orders a coffee. We started talking about the coffee and how she like to drink it and the conversation just flowed from there. She asked me to join her for a smoke out in the main patio and we went and sat down. It all started from there. We had good connection and the conversation flowed freely without long pauses.

Long story short. We stayed for another three hours chatting, drinking and ordered some appetizers. She loosened up a lot and more open to kissing and letting me get my hands under her dress below the jacket she was wearing. She ask what I wanted and I explained my wants (nothing freaky) and issues I have had previously. She gave me her price and it a bit higher that what I wanted to pay but she made a deal. If she performs up to my needs, pay that price. If she doesn't, then I need to tell her and she will leave with a much smaller payment. I said "what the hell" . We clicked well together so what do I have to lose. Her one non-negotiable was condoms for everything except oral which I was disappointed with but agreed.

She asked me to pay her consumables and I agreed. It was only 110 R so no big deal and she was ready after I paid the house fee of 300 R and my tab. Got into the taxi and she was sitting next to me and we were kissing the whole way to the hotel. In the room, after showering, both of us wanted each other and I made her orgasm a few times with DATY. She started her BBBJ and then crawled on top and went BBFS. She just told me pull out in time and I told her I was snipped so no worries. She still didn't want me to finish inside so I respected that. After we were done, I showed her my recent tests and my vasectomy proof. That put her at super ease and she still insisted on pulling out with which I will respect. Took a slight break and talked more with her all cuddling up and we started kissing again which got me ready for the next round and all she did was turn around and guided me in. Wet as fuck and again pulled out. She then turned around and told me that she loves sex and everything about sex so if I am hard at anytime this weekend, she will make sure to satisfy me. I was like. JACKPOT!! Her features were perfectly up my alley. She has a lot tattoos but I have a few so not a dealbreaker. Perfect size tits to hold in my hand, 24 hrs old, small button nipples, tight wet pussy and a perfect tight ass. No kids so no baby damage and no stretch marks on her body. A perfect 8 and her attitude makes her a 10 in my book.

Looking forward to the rest of the weekend and the sex to come. As SocratesNY said below, Scandello is the the king of all boates. I almost always find what I am looking for here and I have usually not been disappointed since I can be patient and take my time to choose the right one.

Next report will be about the weekend spent and the food that I ended up trying out this trip.

Hi ISGers, I feel obliged to contribute after reading so many of your valuable reports. Thank you to everyone who contributed, it has helped me tremendously in my first trip to SP!

So first a bit about myself. I am an Asian-Canadian, 30's, who doesn't speak anything beyond the most basic Porto (I can understand a tiny bit). Funny how the recent forum posts were discussing people's views towards Asians. My guess is Asians tend to hang out in groups and have a certain vibe about them that is very hit-or-miss. I actually don't like hanging out with fellow Asians, because socially Asians tend to just stick together and not be very open about chatting up other people. Maybe the language barrier is also an issue. I speak perfect English, so I get by.

Okay so get down to brass tacks. My sessions:

1) Giulia Monteiro from PhotoAcompanhante (PA): Loved what I saw on the profile, but aware of fake potential. Did the best to verify her identity, she even sent a disappearing WhatsApp selfie, so I had my hopes up. Went to her immediately on Tuesday morning after delayed arrival at GRU. Works out of small prive. But girl who showed up wasn't the same girl, not even the same name. They tried to offer me another girl closer to what I am looking for, but no, I don't support bait-and-switch, so I left. No money paid, just time, but since it's close to Liberdade, I walked back to places I want to see anyway. No major harm done.

2) Cleo from PA: short little cutie who works out of another prive near Santa Cruz metro. Matches photos, maybe a bit less fit than photo suggests, but still in decent shape. Very friendly attitude despite my lack of Porto. BBBJ, GFE. Great service. Had me cum once, and since I was on Viagra, I stayed hard and we sessioned again. Tried to get me to cum a second time, and as I don't cum easily to begin with, we weren't successful, but that's not her fault. In fact, she went 15 min over the hour but I was only charged the hourly rate that I paid for at the beginning, which I couldn't believe was a very cheap R170! 9/10.

3) Jasmine from Twitter (at jas_saintpierre): Fuck where do I begin? Communicated well on WhatsApp, had my hopes up since she's new on Twitter and seems to have just returned from abroad. Had a 'luxury' air about her, and since she spoke English, I thought, sure, why not? First red-flag was that she had to delay our scheduled appointment by an hour and a half. Okay, bad traffic, blah blah blah, I can deal with it. She works out of a hotel in Jardins area. It was tough getting to the area with the rainy weather, but I was there at the lobby a few minutes after the appointed time. Slow documents check, calling her down. By the time I got up with her to her room we were 20 minutes past out appointment 'start time'. She was friendly, so the conversation never went to 'hey, when does the hour actually start and end'. But she insisted R600 to start, which I tried to do the half upfront, half at the end compromise, but she wouldn't budge. Second red-flag, and how I regretted. By the time we actually started to roll in the sheets it was 7 pm. Face is decent, her body is a bit fatter than the photos on Twitter, not disgusting bad, but certainly not what I would choose in a lineup. Fake breasts, whatever. Decent enough fuck, until the phone ran at 7:30 pm (from her pimp I would later figure out), then it's like all hell broke lose. She just up and stopped, told me the hour was up, I was like wtf? She kept insisting that the appointment time started at 6:30 pm, and that I was late. I was like. Yea, but you were the who rescheduled me, and had me move my plans around. She was removing the bed sheets and refused to continue. So no warning, not even a 'hey I need to make you cum because we are almost done'. Then I assume she proceeded to call her pimp because 10 min later as I finished getting changed to leave, loud bangs at the door, and rough angry looking guy showed up. At first I thought it was another client that she seemed to suggest she had, but later as I was going through my phone in the lobby, I saw the same character bring in another girl. So no, that's her pimp. Don't know if it's Jasmine or her pimp or both that decided that's how business should be done, but fuck them both. R600 for 30 min and didn't even finish?! Avoid like the plague, don't support traffickers. 0/10.

Thank goodness a nice Italian dinner nearby made up for an otherwise terrible evening.

4) Casarao. Marina: Went there after dinner. Met an interesting character there. A local Asian man named David in his 60's was friendly, spoke good English, and took me under his wings. He explains that he's been doing this for decades and he's quite a legend for making girls cum (LOL? He chose to sit right by the door so he can immediately scan all the arrivals, and I hung out with him there for a bit. But then tons of girls come to greet him like he's some kind of godfather, he was passing me tips about girls that he know (including who to avoid) and he knows the bouncers and other regulars, so I actually think he's legit. He even had some English-speaking girls come greet me, very kind of him. Place was packed at around midnight, easily 100+girls with all the comings-and-goings. But here's the thing, I like to hunt solo, and I had my eye on a girl who at first glance looked like all kinds of wrong. She's not your typical 'hottie' - wears glasses, reminds me a bit of Anna Kendrick (who I do like). She was on her phone the moment she came in and went to the downstairs bar. When I saw her again upstairs, she's still on her phone. I was like, whatever, let's introduce myself and see what will happen. Well guess what, Marina turned out to be extremely friendly even though she doesn't speak English. I managed to get her to laugh quite a bit, and she even grinded up on me for a good while as we enjoyed the music. She tried to get me to pay her R1000, I negotiated down to R400 for the hour, which she accepted quickly. A petite little spinner, not much for breasts, but great energy in bed, BBFS, GFE, etc. We made it work despite the language barrier and had a great time. 8. 5/10.

5) Mika Nikkei (found on MClass): After an unsuccessful after tour of the Moema clinicas (nothing to my liking, I have a type), I schedule with her, trusting the website's reputation. First red-flag was her attitude on WhatsApp, I thought it was not friendly at all. R100 to schedule, second red-flag. Girl is the same as photos, but she was late because of traffic, and then had problems getting her hotel room authorized. We waited around like idiots for 30 minutes in the lobby. Third red-flag. Go upstairs, her body is not as nice as her photos (stretch marks), and she gave a half-hearted service, which is totally different from what we discussed on WhatsApp. Bad-smelling pussy. This idiot is still heading into the fucking trap. I asked for the anal she promised, she got pissed, grumbling and did it for 30's, then claimed I am hurting her (I was neither rough nor am I gifted). Okay whatever, finished around the 35 min mark with a CIM (again promised), she fucking bolted to the bathroom swearing. Like you kept your mouth open * what did you expect?! Then she came back and said we are done, I was like, wait, your service promised an hour. ? She kept swearing, refusing to even use Google translate to get her point across. I was done too, I don't need to put up with this attitude. I did say that given your lateness and the short service, I am cutting the R400 remainder payment by half (do you guys think that's fair? I do). Then she claimed that no, this is what it is, she would call police otherwise. I actually wanted to dare her to do it, or just up and run, but realizes that R200 is not worth the added drama, so was like fuck it, lesson learned. Also made me miss the early entry discount for Scandallo, so in a sense lost another R200 because of her. 0/10.

6) Isa Nakamura (at isanakamuragp3): found on Twitter, I scheduled with her, with the plan to meet her at my hotel after checking in at Scandallo. Well given what happened (see #5), I didn't bother going to Scandallo yet, and I was contemplating cancelling with Isa since I was in a bad mood. Glad I didn't. She is an educated young woman, speaks good English, who actually looked very much the part of a university student, and I like her mestizo features. 8/10 for body. She was shy to begin with, but warmed up as we had a nice conversation about travels and studies. Enhanced tits, body that is not as toned as I hoped, but easily 7. 5/10 still. Good session with BBFS and GFE. 8/10.

6) Scandallo. Nathalia: Wow, the hype is real. Wednesday night at 11 pm is a zoo. Bodies everywhere, booze flowing freely, it took me a good 45 min just to get my bearings. As I finally settled into the upstairs bar, I caught the eye of a young spinner named Bianca. Like her work name, she was dressed in all-white, almost cosplay-like outfit, complete with a white ribbon in her hair, face all dolled up. Couldn't stop applying more of her bright red lipstick while chatting with me. My guess is she's playing up that anime kawaii trope, and thought I would be a sucker for it. Truth be told, I was interested, but more because of her body type. She then had this really odd 'shy schoolgirl' attitude about her as I asked her about herself. She also kept glancing back to this other Asian dude that she was chatting with earlier. Honestly I think it's all an act, and I hated it. Did get a price though. She opened with 1000, I got her down to 400, which she accepted. She promised the world, including anal. I know this is apparently a great deal at Scandallo these days, but LOL, nope. She probably thinks I am a 10-min guy with her thing for Asians (I can easily go a full hour), and given the strange vibes about her, I told her I would get back to her after I finish my drink. She proceeded to go to the other Asian dude she was eyeing. I think they were chatting for like 2+hours (or what constituted for chatting in her books anyway, all she gave me were one word answers) because I saw them together still after I finished my time with Nathalia (below). If he sessioned with her, good for him. I hope it was good, but I doubt it LOL.

Downstairs in the main room, there were hotties everywhere, but they looked too 'pro' for my liking. As I was circling for another look in the restaurants and smokers' corner, I caught the eye of a glasses-wearing cutie named Nathalia at the back. I don't usually have a thing for girls with glasses, but both nights at different clubs it happened *shrugs*. She speaks some English, there's just a very friendly vibe about her, she claimed it's only her second time there at Scandallo, which might not be true, but she didn't seem to be a full pro. Claims to be from the northeast of Brazil. She was very helpful with getting me to navigate the Scandallo bureaucracy. She opened with 1000 for the hour, I returned 400, agreed on 500 with anal included. Woah. Not bad for a first time negotiator after all the previous reports I read, right? Anyway, upstairs the session was excellent. 8. 5/10 for body, 9/10 for face. Everything was done as promised, very GFE, we even did it a bit in the shower. Went over time by 15 min, and she honestly seemed to feel bad for me because of the added hotel fees, but I honestly don't care, since it was a tremendous session. She even left me a business card (who does that?! Haha). 9. 5/10.

7) Giovanna Berlot (MClass, Twitter): You can find other reviews about her on gp-guia. She's seriously good. R500 for 1 h, which is R100 more than a few weeks ago when I first ask for a quote, but honestly, so worth it. Doesn't speak English, but doesn't matter. Her body type is a 10/10 for me, petite and toned, and she now has new blonde hair which makes her look even hotter. Very good energy in bed also, just no anal. 9. 5/10.

7 sessions in about 48 hours. 2/7 struck out. Learned some lessons, had a great time. Not bad for a first trip to Brazil; I am now heading to Rio after a weekend with non-mongering friends.

I am not a full member yet, but if there's good feedback on these reports, I might consider it given the nice community here. Obrigado for reading. Tchau!

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2744158]First of all, SocratesNY great report. It sucks that we missed each other by a few days and maybe next time we can plan a get together.

Arrived at Scandello approx at 915 pm and walked around for a bit. It was slow and there weren't a lot of girls. So I picked a spot at the lobby bar and ordered a beer. I was going to take it slow tonight because I wanted to find a gem that checks off my list. I haven't been to Scandello since February and I wanted to find someone who would be enjoyable to spend time with.

I talked to approx 10 girls in the first two hours but none suited my fancy. The first few conversations lasted less than 5 mins due to the fact that the girl just couldn't get keep the conversation going. It was very forced. I would walk around every once in a while and saw some that were very pretty and some that I didn't know why they were there. There is really something for everyone here. By the end of the night, there must have been over 300 girls here in all flavors.

As the dance floor area started to get crowded, I went for a walk thru and immediately saw one that caught my attention and gave her a smile. But I kept walking since the crowd and noise wasn't my cup of tea. So went back to the bar to sit down. And within 5-10 mins comes the girl who caught my attention and she orders a coffee. We started talking about the coffee and how she like to drink it and the conversation just flowed from there. She asked me to join her for a smoke out in the main patio and we went and sat down. It all started from there. We had good connection and the conversation flowed freely without long pauses.

Long story short. We stayed for another three hours chatting, drinking and ordered some appetizers. She loosened up a lot and more open to kissing and letting me get my hands under her dress below the jacket she was wearing. She ask what I wanted and I explained my wants (nothing freaky) and issues I have had previously. She gave me her price and it a bit higher that what I wanted to pay but she made a deal. If she performs up to my needs, pay that price. If she doesn't, then I need to tell her and she will leave with a much smaller payment. I said "what the hell" . We clicked well together so what do I have to lose. Her one non-negotiable was condoms for everything except oral which I was disappointed with but agreed.

She asked me to pay her consumables and I agreed. It was only 110 R so no big deal and she was ready after I paid the house fee of 300 R and my tab. Got into the taxi and she was sitting next to me and we were kissing the whole way to the hotel. In the room, after showering, both of us wanted each other and I made her orgasm a few times with DATY. She started her BBBJ and then crawled on top and went BBFS. She just told me pull out in time and I told her I was snipped so no worries. She still didn't want me to finish inside so I respected that. After we were done, I showed her my recent tests and my vasectomy proof. That put her at super ease and she still insisted on pulling out with which I will respect. Took a slight break and talked more with her all cuddling up and we started kissing again which got me ready for the next round and all she did was turn around and guided me in. Wet as fuck and again pulled out. She then turned around and told me that she loves sex and everything about sex so if I am hard at anytime this weekend, she will make sure to satisfy me. I was like. JACKPOT!! Her features were perfectly up my alley. She has a lot tattoos but I have a few so not a dealbreaker. Perfect size tits to hold in my hand, 24 hrs old, small button nipples, tight wet pussy and a perfect tight ass. No kids so no baby damage and no stretch marks on her body. A perfect 8 and her attitude makes her a 10 in my book.

Looking forward to the rest of the weekend and the sex to come. As SocratesNY said below, Scandello is the the king of all boates. I almost always find what I am looking for here and I have usually not been disappointed since I can be patient and take my time to choose the right one.

Next report will be about the weekend spent and the food that I ended up trying out this trip.[/QUOTE]Great report Anaggie. That is how you do it. Choose wisely and take the time to connect. With a likewise similar strategy I have around a 98% batting average in Scandallo and Bomboa. The minor difference between your approach and mine is that I prefer to do 1st time sessions in-house and then afterwards if things went well and I want to see her again and she me, we will exchange WhatsApp #s and take things from there. After every trip to SP I wind up with more girl numbers than I know what to do with.

Hi Socrates, I know how you feel about SP. I am heading back down there in less than 3 weeks, and I am starting to get stoked. It will be my 4th 6 week visit in less than 2 years. What can I say? I love the girls. I keep putting off my return to Thailand and the PI on account of SP girls. Ha Ha.

I am sorry to hear about your Marina experience, but sometimes guys like us need a poor session once in a blue moon to remind us not to take things too much for granted and to remember that nobody walk can on water. Like you said, you "broke a lot of (your) personal rules" that led to the final outcome. I have been there done that, but only on rare occasions. Thank the Lord above. KKK.

On high end clinicas: I am big fan of Prime, but I have also enjoyed Lotus Lounge. I feel that punters should consider all their options when in SP and the clinicas are a great afternoon diversion.

Lotus Club: your description matches my memory. I have only been there once. Friendly managemnt. The place looked 1st class and I am sure a lot of money went into the renovation, but where are the high-quality girls? Without plenty of lookers a place is nowhere. What a shame because I wanted to like Lotus Club. I wanted the place to be great.

Cafe Photo: I have not been there yet, and your review is not very encouraging. LOL. But since I am staying at the Hyatt for one of the weeks that I am in town, I will probably give it a look see anyway and if it is no good, I will head over to Bomboa or Scandallo.

Casarao: It is on my bucket list this trip for sure, although it was on my bucket list on my last visit too. I don't know; a lot of BM's like the place, so I got to go and see what everybody is talking about, but the hours don't work for me. When I am in SP I like to be on the scent from around 9 pm to midnight. That means I have already found a girl or girls by the time Casarao starts rocking. I don't like the idea of holding off until midnight to begin my night, so my plan will be to hit Scandallo 1st, score, and then after my 1st tryst of the evening, head over to Casarao and see what happens. I love 2 fer nights.

Scandallo: "Still the king of boates. Not even a close contest. " Yeah, you got that right! Scandallo is the main reason I am not even bothering with RJ this upcoming visit. It is a shame, but RJ has nothing to offer on the same level. To top it off I have a favorite Scandallo girl that I am just smitten with. We get together mainly at my hotel nowadays. Sunday is our date night.

Inflation 1: 5 star hotel prices are going through the roof. The Renaissance & Intercontinental are asking more than $250/ night and they are not even that good, IMHO, especially the Intercontinental which is in need of a renovation. But I am going to the well on this upcoming visit, using ALL my Marriot, Intercontinental points and vouchers. That takes care of the 1st 2 weeks. Then I move south to the much more reasonably priced Hyatt and to very reasonable & comfortable Brazilian hotels in Itaim Bibi.

Inflation 2: Scandallo girly prices: Last year all the girls were happy with 500 br to 600 br. In April / May 2022 I noticed a two-tier system had evolved in Scandallo. Tier 1 girls or model quality girls were asking anywhere from 1000 br to 2000 br and Tier 2 girls or pretty girl next door types were asking under 1000 br. And I found this simple formula usually settled the issue: take the girls asking price divide by 2 and add 200 br. Every girl accepted my counter using this formula. Examples: 2000 br Tier 1 always accepted 1200 br and a 900 br Tier 2 always accepted 650 to 700 br. I am talking ST. LT is different, but I never do LT until a girl and I have some history together. Interestingly this 2-tier system does not exist at Bomboa where all the girls seem happy with 700 br or a little less.

Anyway, keep rocking. Great report!

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2744046]Another fantastic SP trip under my belt (10th within the past 18 months), and I keep experiencing, seeing, hearing, learning new and amazing things!

I think my SP hobbying trips have finally plateaued. Prior to this trip, every one of my previous trips was overall an improvement over the previous one. It's not necessarily a bad thing, as I still had an amazing time and this most recent trip still ranks as top 3 to 5 among all my SP trips.

Here are some of the new experiences / insights that I gleamed from this trip. I'll start with the bad and move on to the good or mundane.

Rotten Apple in Terra daa Garoa" / Land of Drizzle:

I've had a handful of meh / average experiences in Brazil and all of them were from either a Moema clinicas, a more local boate like Bamboa, online girl or a RJ tier 1 terma. Therefore, it was truly surprising to me that my FIRST truly bad experience I had with a girl in Brazil, where I just ended the session and told her to leave, was from Scandallo.

I'll preface that I take a lot of the blame for my bad experience, as I broke a lot of my personal rules when doing my due diligence with this girl and ignored so many warning signs, and made countless excuses for her.

I was chilling at around 2:30 am Friday with some ISG bros at Scandallo and was about to call it a night and maybe do a last call type of deal. I had only slept about 4 hours the previous 48 hours so was dead tired. I saw this pretty petite branca morena dancing with this tall model like girl I've had before. She had good dance moves and piqued my curiosity. I figured since she was dancing with and seemed to be a friend with a girl I had a good time with in the past, who was very cool and chill, that she would also be a cool and chill girl. Wrong! Assumptions are the mother of all fuck ups!

I broke my first rule by not spending a decent amount of time talking to her to get a read on her. I've played a lot of poker and think I can read people pretty well. Instead, I cut right to the chase with her and talked business after a brief introduction. I told her I wanted a 3 HR session and what I wanted during the sessio. My requests are nothing freaky. All standard stuff GFE stuff that I didn't previously need to ask (BBBJ, DFK, lots of foreplay, erotic massage play, etc.). But a previous encounter had forced me to be more transparent, especially with higher cost girls I take out. When she agreed, we moved onto pricing and soon agreed to that as well.

Once we went downstairs and went to the cashier, the first red flag occurred. When I went to pay my card, she just handed her card to the cashier and motioned that I was going to take care of it. She never asked me first and I never said I would. She just presumed and took me for granted or for a sucker. Just no respect.

I've paid the card / bill of most of the girls I've taken out, but they always ask me first and inform me it it was just their consumption, which was always minor. There was one exception, when a girl from my last trip, which stuck me with a R600 bill that I didn't realize until the next day, as I was never shown their receipt. She claimed she didn't know it was that high or that her admission on it and offered to reimburse me. I told that girl that there was no need, and that I believe her. But she persisted and insisted that I take her up to the room for a free romp. So I did amd It ended up one being one of the better 1 HR sessions I had. So I now make sure I see the full itemized bill of the girl before I pay it.

Now back to this girl. Her working name is Marina. I have no issues name shaming girls with shitty attitudes and crappy service. I am sure she put me on blast to her friends after! When I saw the R400+ for cover and consumption, I balked at paying it. When I saw her facial expression turn negative and the mood about to sour. It was like a big five alarm going off with large red sirens in my head! I was about to say fuck it and bail, but a combination of events made me change my mind. 1) she quickly hid her emotions and tried to smooth things over by saying I can consider it a tip and if I don't have a good time, I can deduct it from our agreed compensation 2) I had already paid her Saida fee so not sure if I can change my mind (I learn now to pay the bill before Saida fee) 3) I had already settled my bill so not sure if I can open a new one and go back in the club (upon reflection, I am sure I can) 4) I am an optimist at heart and gave her the benefit of the doubt 5) I wanted to see her dance the stripper pole at Lush Hotel.

Off we went to Lush. She was detached on the ride over. Claimed she was tired. Probably true. But not a good start. Lush sold out the room with stripper pole while we were heading over. So the hits keep on coming! Once we get to the room, she tried me to get a buy her a vibrator and dinner without asking. How did she do that you ask? By just taking a new vibrator from the shelf and putting it on the bed. Insinuating she will use it during our session. And of course taking it home after. I took a look and it was R400 for the vibrator. She just opening the menu and says she is hungry. And whether I was too. As if she was paying! This was the last opportunity I had to cut my losses and kick her out without paying her compensation. And I should have listened to my gut and done so and booted her out with just taxi fare and went back to Scandallo for last call.

As for service, Marina tried to skimp on time and service and just tried to get me off ASAP and leave. A wham bam thank you ma'am session was the last thing I wanted. I didn't book 3 hrs for that! I tried to slow her down and give her guidance, but she always quickly reverted back to the pace she was setting and the shitty service she was giving.

I finally had enough of the BS, I told her she obviously didn't want to be here and she can leave. She tried to debate with me that it's not true and she was providing the service we agreed to. I told her she don't need to worry about me not paying her (that would lead to drama I don't want), but she wasn't going to get everything we agreed on. I deducted her bill / tip and Saida fee from our agreed upon compensation for her time and she simply gave me a thumbs up in agreement and left.

So my ONE and ONLY time in Brazil that I kicked a girl out of my bed was a rotten apple from Scandallo! Still a good batting average as that is probably out of 150+ Brazilian women I've had in Sampa and Rio and 70+ of them from Scandallo!

ISG Bros:

I had a great time hanging with a bunch of ISG bros, two of whom I met up with on multiple trips previously in SP. I actually arranged the dates of this trip to hang with them. Our group of 3 eventually grew to as much as 7, when we did an ISG Bros takeover of DOM restaurante! It was amazing hanging with so many like minded guys. I won't name names to keep things discreet, but you guys know who you are. It was a pleasure hanging out with each and every one of you. I hope to hang with you guys again in the future.

High end clinicas:

I am very surprised I've not sampled any high end clinica until now. I wanted to try them out during my first few trips, but had such an amazing time with regular clinicas that I didn't think it would be worth it, especially when I had to use an iPad for presentation and the prices almost reached Scandallo levels. I finally did at the urging and recommendations of a few ISG bros. I went to Lotus Lounge with an ISG bro as wingman and had a good time. I would definitely repeat. Cost:. 350 to house, 330 to girl, total R680.

Do I think it's worth 2 to 2. 5 x the cost of a Moema clinica? Yes, if you like what I like. The room, ambiance, showers, amenities are 3-4 x better than Moema clinicas. Basically comparable to s high end spa / 4 star hotel. The girls are also on average better looking and more of them speak English when compared to a regular clinica girl. All of those traits I prioritize and place value on. They also offer happy hour and loyalty discounts!

Lotus Club:

I had hope to give this boate another chance, as the last time I went, the place was dead. But really nicely furnished. However, before I went there after dinner, a couple of friends were there already and said now the club is now full of mostly ugly and old civilians, with a sprinkling of hotties. There were also some stickers for swingers like (yes / no, available,/ not available, etc.) on some of their clothes. I guess the club pivoted to a civilian, semi swing club after not succeeding as an alternative to Cafe Photo / Scandallo.

Cafe Photo:

Went there with some ISG bros and we left after 30 min and headed to Scandallo. It was a bad omen when I saw two good looking girls leaving when we arrived. They probably went to Scandallo or a working girl party pickup spot like Bagatelle. After the previous 2 nights at Scandallo, it was like going from the Yankees to single A ball. For non baseball fans. It's like going from listening to Adele to listening to your kid's elementary school recital. The admission is now all consumption R350. They did tack on a 15% tip gratuity without saying anything. When I asked why it was higher then 350, they said it was a 15% service charge for the waiters and it was voluntary and they would remove it if we wanted. We said keep it, but still found it shady and forced. I've told myself before, so I hope to keep telling myself, but I am done with this place.

I did found the service to be a tad above Scandallo. But with the client to waiter ratio almost 1:2. It does feel a bit awkward. Like you have too many watchful servants. The way they brought over glasses with lime or berries in ice for our bottle of gin was nicely done.

Casarao:

I finally crossed it off my bucket list. And I will return. Shocked I never went there before this trip as I stay in the area so often (Renaissance, Tivoli, intercontinental, Fasano, Rosewood, etc.). I think the reasons were 1) thought it was more for locals and my lack of Porto would be a huge impediment 2) I presumed it was an inferior Bomboa. 3). The last time I wanted to go, . My friends said. They just went a few days ago and it was meh!

So after finishing a dinner date and catching the end of the Bucs game, I got bored and couldn't sleep. I hit up a wingman to go check it out on a Sunday at midnight. It was one of few clubs open, and as I just finished with a girl, I figure I would just go to look.

It's definitely self service, when Scandallo is full service! No glasses with ice. Nicely wrapped with a napkin here with your coke or red bull. There is a big garbage can for you to throw out your own garbage! A bit of a dive bar vibe, but better layout than Bomboa. It was decent on Sunday. More hopping than Cafe Photo on a Saturday! Was told it can be packed during the weekdays. Saw a girl from Scandallo there that I had thought about taking when she was at Scandallo a couple of nights ago. Quickly negotiated a takeout back to my hotel. Had such a good time, I extended our time twice, and at a fraction of Scandallo prices! My wingman scored a good deal on a pernoite as well and his girl fucked his brains out not once. Not twice, but 3 times before she left him famished when we met up for lunch! She might have tried to kill him and went in for #4 if not for his lunch date with me and a friend![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2744131]Just curious, does the. O. M. Still offer two tasting menus?

I found the larger tasting menu was too much for me. I noticed most the locals were ordering the smaller tasting menu and it seemed to be plenty of food.[/QUOTE]Unless it is an older menu / dining concept, DOM only have 1 regular tasting menu and 1 vegetarian tasting menu. It was never large and small (less courses) during my 5-6 visits in the previous 18 months.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2744476]Unless it is an older menu / dining concept, DOM only have 1 regular tasting menu and 1 vegetarian tasting menu. It was never large and small (less courses) during my 5-6 visits in the previous 18 months.[/QUOTE]The reviews indicated there were two different menus a few years ago so they changed.

I went for lunch hoping to get something quick and different. But was told lunch and dinner are the same and the vegetarian option. I walked in at 12 PM without appointment and was the only customer for a short while. By the time I finished, there were about 5 tables total. I think they will attract more people on lunch break if they have smaller menu but the seating does not seem to work for larger volume and may eat into their profit otherwise.

[QUOTE=Affyf17;2744335]Hi ISGers, I feel obliged to contribute after reading so many of your valuable reports. Thank you to everyone who contributed, it has helped me tremendously in my first trip to SP!...[/QUOTE]Excellent report! It looks like you are well prepared.

Pay in advance is often bad. I had a bad one in SP from a well known site and I didn't even go to the sex part. I just wrote it off reported on gpguia.

I had several twitter sessions. I didn't go for the well known ones and none of them match the pictures but most sessions were good. In most my encounters, they all seem to be supported by a business operation because the setup were professional, frequently spacious one bedroom in the nicer area, towels and everything cleanly wrapped. I caught this picture with the girl I just sessioned with going out with a man while waiting for Uber.

You are a good negotiator. I am very impressed. 400 is a record! I have never thought about going below 500. lol. I think I know the girl you talked about. Spoke a little English. She is a regular there. I know someone got her down to pretty low but not as low as you reported if it's indeed the same girl.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2744351]
Inflation 2: Scandallo girly prices: Last year all the girls were happy with 500 br to 600 br. In April / May 2022 I noticed a two-tier system had evolved in Scandallo. Tier 1 girls or model quality girls were asking anywhere from 1000 br to 2000 br and Tier 2 girls or pretty girl next door types were asking under 1000 br. And I found this simple formula usually settled the issue: take the girls asking price divide by 2 and add 200 br. Every girl accepted my counter using this formula. Examples: 2000 br Tier 1 always accepted 1200 br and a 900 br Tier 2 always accepted 650 to 700 br. I am talking ST. LT is different, but I never do LT until a girl and I have some history together. Interestingly this 2-tier system does not exist at Bomboa where all the girls seem happy with 700 br or a little less.[/QUOTE]Interesting observations. I noticed similar trends. An uptick early this year and the hotter girls asking for more.

From my personal experiences, tier 1 girls generally settle for 800 to 1000 and tier 2 girls settle for 500 to 800 for ST / HR). The funny thing is that the few girls who won't take 1000 for ST / HR (usually insist on at least 1200 to 1500 for ST / HR) and thus consider themselves Tier 1 or upper Tier 1, I only consider them to be tier 2 level. So it was easy for me to walk away. Just goes to show different strokes for different folks and everyone has a different sense of beauty.

It seems most of the girls also consider LT differently than I do. Most of the girls see no difference between 2-3 hrs at my hotel vs. A pernoite until the morning. They just charged the same for leaving the club "Saida", whether it's for a few hours or an overnight until the morning.

For LT, I've found most tier 1 girls will open at 2000 to 3000 and accept a 1200 to 1500 counter right away, especially if they know you are not a newbie as 1) know the general pricing of the club and 2) is a potential repeat client. The tier 2 girls I've found will take 800 to 1200 for a pernoite.

As with the ST examples, a few won't budge and want at least 2 to 3 k for a pernoite. With one only going from 4500 down to 4000. Almost all of those girls, I don't even consider Tier 1 caliber so I just moved on.

The above also just goes to show that everyome have different tastes. I am glad that is the case or we would all be fighting for the same girls!

Most Asians seem to gravitate towards lighter skinned, cute and innocent gazelles. White Gringos are usually more varied. Locals Brazilians usually tanned, tall, slutty with big Ts and As. That's based on both my observations of which girls are sitting with which clients. And also what girls I spent time with tells me.

The last girl I spent time with on my most recent trip was a young, lightly tanned cute and pretty petite English speaking Brazilian girl with amazing natural the's. Perfect for "Russian"! Those large natural breasts on such a small and thin frame makes her stand out and is an unicorn in my eyes. She tells me few local guys go for her, but white Gringos and Asians (both locals and visitors) make up 80%+ of her client base.

I know I don't haggle too aggressively, as I don't want to go too low and potentially impact service levels. I just pay what I am comfortable paying, even if it might be on the higher end of what locals and others tell me are the prevalent club rates. I also compare what regular / high end clinicas, other boates and online girls charge and make additional adjustments based on that info.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2744619]Interesting observations. I noticed similar trends. An uptick early this year and the hotter girls asking for more.

From my personal experiences, tier 1 girls generally settle for 800 to 1000 and tier 2 girls settle for 500 to 800 for ST / HR). The funny thing is that the few girls who won't take 1000 for ST / HR (usually insist on at least 1200 to 1500 for ST / HR) and thus consider themselves Tier 1 or upper Tier 1, I only consider them to be tier 2 level. So it was easy for me to walk away. Just goes to show different strokes for different folks and everyone has a different sense of beauty.

It seems most of the girls also consider LT differently than I do. Most of the girls see no difference between 2-3 hrs at my hotel vs. A pernoite until the morning. They just charged the same for leaving the club "Saida", whether it's for a few hours or an overnight until the morning.

For LT, I've found most tier 1 girls will open at 2000 to 3000 and accept a 1200 to 1500 counter right away, especially if they know you are not a newbie as 1) know the general pricing of the club and 2) is a potential repeat client. The tier 2 girls I've found will take 800 to 1200 for a pernoite.

As with the ST examples, a few won't budge and want at least 2 to 3 k for a pernoite. With one only going from 4500 down to 4000. Almost all of those girls, I don't even consider Tier 1 caliber so I just moved on.

The above also just goes to show that everyome have different tastes. I am glad that is the case or we would all be fighting for the same girls!

Most Asians seem to gravitate towards lighter skinned, cute and innocent gazelles. White Gringos are usually more varied. Locals Brazilians usually tanned, tall, slutty with big Ts and As. That's based on both my observations of which girls are sitting with which clients. And also what girls I spent time with tells me.

The last girl I spent time with on my most recent trip was a young, lightly tanned cute and pretty petite English speaking Brazilian girl with amazing natural the's. Perfect for "Russian"! Those large natural breasts on such a small and thin frame makes her stand out and is an unicorn in my eyes. She tells me few local guys go for her, but white Gringos and Asians (both locals and visitors) make up 80%+ of her client base.

I know I don't haggle too aggressively, as I don't want to go too low and potentially impact service levels. I just pay what I am comfortable paying, even if it might be on the higher end of what locals and others tell me are the prevalent club rates. I also compare what regular / high end clinicas, other boates and online girls charge and make additional adjustments based on that info.[/QUOTE]Inflation for the girls also, it now cost them 300 R to enter if they don't go 5 days a week. So between uber and their cost to go to work it could easily cost them 500 that night and they have no choice but to bump up their prices as well.

Quality control is why they bumping the price for girls to enter, this way they ensure the girls don't freelance and come to work 5 days a week and the weed out lower tier girls. Girls that can't commit to going will end up going to other boates where they have less restrictions or high fees to enter.

This gives them even more reason to prefer to talk to gringos since they know the guy is there to fuck and spend money.

Would you pay more for a Brazilian girl than one in the US with same quality?

[QUOTE=Fewdie;2744961]Would you pay more for a Brazilian girl than one in the US with same quality?[/QUOTE]My answer is no in general. The problem is how do we agree on what is the same quality? Last year I posted this same picture, and there was at least one member saying one can find 20 - 30% of girls in Scandallo that look like her. But I saw absolutely none the time I was there up to this day. That just show how each one of us see beauty differently. LOL.

It's like some unique luxury rental properties that cost a fraction of the price of US properties but can command high rental price similar to US properties. It is because it's uniqueness and in limited supply and they are only targeted to certain type of customers. These properties will be in demand as long as there are sufficient quaintly of customers even if it is small so it does not matter what general public think.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2744619]..I know I don't haggle too aggressively, as I don't want to go too low and potentially impact service levels..[/QUOTE]I think one can still weed out the bad ones in the club. There are other factors that influence service. It is not obvious in this forum but it is more obvious in Medellin forum where members will discuss preparation like food, drinks, music, popcorn. Personally I just gave in because the girls were hot.

What is missing in this post is that if it is someone else who does not last long, that person can ask for two pops as he said she promised the world.

[QUOTE]
6) Scandallo. ... Did get a price though. She opened with 1000, I got her down to 400, which she accepted. She promised the world, including anal. I know this is apparently a great deal at Scandallo these days, but LOL, nope. She probably thinks I am a 10-min guy with her thing for Asians (I can easily go a full hour) ...[/QUOTE]I think two tier pricing has always existed as long as the club does not regulate it. Last year, I was paying 500 but some members were posting much higher prices. I think the current pricing just added a layer of dishonesty. A girl I went with for 500 last year now wants 1000 but went down to 500 automatically and the exchange last year was at 5. 3. Basically I guess all regulars that I know like Bianca can be had at old price that is 50% off. The less attractive ones are more honest and start with 500.

I have the most sessions with Scandallo girls but the best sessions I have are at Tangara. That is by far the best place for me and ironically it is the least expensive. The place is a little rundown. What make me go back are the number of girls they have and the new girls they have are just unmatched by any clincas. The best BBBJs, the best camel slides all are from Tangra. I still remember the girl teasing me repeatedly while doing came slide, do you want condom? do you want condom?; I kept answering NO NO NO. LOL. Just to add more context, I went to Prime almost every week but I left empty handed most of the times and always ended up in Miruna.

[QUOTE=Fewdie;2744961]Would you pay more for a Brazilian girl than one in the US with same quality?[/QUOTE]Quality like appearance or performance? When I'm in the US I only look for Brazilian girls LOL. But they usually charge at least 400 usd a hour, for 2000 R I get over 24 hrs in Brazil.

Many of us monger outside of the US not because of the price but instead not to shit in our own backyard.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2744990]My answer is no in general. The problem is how do we agree on what is the same quality? Last year I posted this same picture, and there was at least one member saying one can find 20 - 30% of girls in Scandallo that look like her. But I saw absolutely none the time I was there up to this day. That just show how each one of us see beauty differently. LOL.

It's like some unique luxury rental properties that cost a fraction of the price of US properties but can command high rental price similar to US properties. It is because it's uniqueness and in limited supply and they are only targeted to certain type of customers. These properties will be in demand as long as there are sufficient quaintly of customers even if it is small so it does not matter what general public think.[/QUOTE]I know this girl a little bit. KKK. Her stage name is Louise Nowak. I saw her add on Club Model in April 2022 when I was last in SP. IMHO she was one of the best lookers on that website, so I texted her. She responded quickly and seemed friendly. As our conversation continued, she sent me a zip file with 75 pics and videos of herself, and after a while we got down to business. She wanted 1500 BR which included a 500 br advance payment. In the friendliest way possible I told her I thought 1500 br was a tad high and asked if she would come down in price a little. I also told her I wouldn't send any money in advance. She took my words graciously, but she would not lower her terms or ask, so we ended the conversation on a "maybe we can get together some other time" friendly note. I mean there is no reason to be negative or insulting just because a girl and I can't come to terms. I still wanted her.

Anyway, the next day she texted me and asked if still I wanted to see her. I said I did, but I told her 1500 br was too high and this time I offered her 900 br, but sadly, she was still hung up on the 1500 BR which I wouldn't agree too. There was no mention of the 500 BR down payment. So, we left it at that although during our conversations I had told her I was an American who frequently flew down to SP on business and that if she ever changed her mind, she should call me, and we could have a good time together. I stayed in SP for 6 weeks that trip, but I never heard back from her again. Oh well, but I don't really care. I would not say that there are a ton of Scandallo girls (20% to 30%) as sexy as Louise Nowak, but there are number of high-quality lookers there (5 to 15) on any given night that can match her on looks plus talking and flirting with a super attractive Tier 1 girl in the bar is a far better way to find something good than arranging something blind over the internet. Sorry Louise, but it is true.

Here are a few more pics of Louise, the girl that got away. KKK.