I agree! ST is better before committing to TLN with an unknown.
[QUOTE=Frannie; 1406598]I don't know why guys want to do these toda la noche deals with chicas they don't know. It is just asking to get ripped off, and the imagined whole night of passionate lovemaking probably won't happen unless there is real chemistry.
I think it would be better to take them for short time and then convert to toda la noche later if both parties are agreeable and she shows no desire to depart.
Remember that many girls may sign up for toda la noche with every intention of converting the agreement once the deed is done. Often this may be because they cannot afford to turn down a customer even if they have other commitments like children that mean they cannot stay all night. (For example mom or sister may be babysitting junior, but perhaps mom has to leave home at 6:30 am To go to her own job.) [/QUOTE]Many of the TLNs I've had were with chicas I developed a connection with or they just really liked the idea of being in a hotel instead of their dingy rooms. I got lucky, because I didn't really negotiate or request TLN with some of them, it just happened. But there are quite a few that I'm glad I went ST with rather than trying to shoot for TLN.