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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1208016]Cont.

That standard was I was suppose to let it go? I was told pretty much that the guy doesn't have the money and that he needs to feed his family. I was made to feel because I was a farang that if someone stole from me that it was okay for me to loose it. The Thais don't seem to understand or care that the money lost affected my family. In another situation I used the court system only to be told later by another lawyer as a Farang the system in these situation was useless, you should have stuck with previous choice and pay the mafia to knock him off.

Regardless, how much we tell Thais that we are not all loaded in cash and we are just like Thais, some have it, some don't and there are many in between. It doesn't sink in! They ask to borrow money and promise to pay back when they have no means to do so and when you question them they are offended and loose face. I certainly don't feel Thais hate me but the closes I could come is that they feel because we are here or live here they are entitled to cheat or ask us to pay more. Just this year I was at Royal Garden with my son and his friend they wanted to see the Wax museum. Jack Spirro, of Pirates of Carribean told the cashier to charge me Farang price. I told the guy " Ding Dong " I have live here for nearly 10 years at what point do you think I could pay Thai price " another fruit loop Thai shot back at me and said " if you have been here 10 years you should have a Thai driver license " I show him one and he didn't say a thing then I lecture all of them in front of everyone that I'm just like you! That when you bleed your blood is red so is mines.

I don't disagree that no race has a lock on rudeness and have seen many Farangs act poorly but I don't think this topic is about rudeness. While Thai men walk away from there responsibility to their kids because they can't control their little head but when a Farang does it is not acceptible. I have heard more than my share of Thai women sitting around in discussion as to how get a Farang and what you should expect from them. The first thing they seem to compare with each other is how much they are getting from the sucker. It's like a game or a badge of honor as to how much one gets they have a school of their own. They have a expectation that the man should take care of them if he is a Farang but that standard doesn't apply to a Thai.

For years I have been told that I need to be 100% Thai, This would never be asked of a white guy because his skin can't be changed but because I look like one of them they have no problem with the request. I have sat with so many Thai girls asking me how to get a Farang? What do they like? Teach me. I sit now and just smile like a Thai man smiling and drinking my Sansome. Saying anything or giving too much advice sooner or later they get upset or loose face. I'm Chinese and have been throughout China and never have ever experience so much loosing face from a culture like the Thais. When I first came on this board I was told by a long standing member who got kicked off that saying the culture is backwards is being kind.

As Fon Tok noted there are worst places and Thailand overall is pretty good but stay with just the pussy. But when you live here that is easier said than done the more you become entrence into the country it can sour you. I have been but the last few years I am trying to reinvent myself and I'm slowly transforming myself to many of the Thai ways and one of them is just smile and try not to let it get to me. Now I do as Thai men do let your little head do the leading. I use to feel guilty but now I have no problem fucking a Thai mans wife if she wants a shoulder to cry on because he is out being a butterfly. I have been in bars and after they hear my story have given me what I call simpity fucks while I'm getting sucked off I thinking only in Thailand LOS!

I have committed myself to never allowing this country and people to beat me down or take away my joy for life. I have allow those that have wrong me in the past to move on except for one and god help him and his family the day I find him. Meantime I am transforming and I'm becoming their worse nightmare. I'm a Farang that knows too much and look like them and that has many plus with Thai women but in the end I am no better or worse than you guys except this ATM has limitation. The women believe what they want and I always tell them the truth " I have no money to take care of you " they believe what they want but when I'm done I pay them and thank them. I walk away knowing that I still treat everyone the same with respect until they deserve otherwise. I have been jaded and I guard myself and say very little because my life is in Thailand.

They don't hate us but boy they sure think we owe them something that isn't expected from their own people?

Enjoy and thanks for allowing me to vent. LBM[/QUOTE]Hi LittleBigMan,

I just met a local girl today who just wanted to meet and just be friends first. I met her here at one of the Mall in Bangkok. I first we went to the Starsbucks and we talked for a bit. Then she tells me that she has to go and buy a dress for her brother wedding and hair curly iron. She asked me if I wanted to go with her. I tell her to be with her would be my pleasure. We go to another Mall and she goes on to tell me that all of the foreigners come to shop here. That is the first hint that I get as to what is coming up. Oh, before I go she STATES rather strongle that we are only friends and nothing else. I tell her I agree with her. We go to many of the store looking for a dress first, she finds one but tells me,"Dress cost to much money". We then go to a place where they sell the hair curling iron, she looks at it and then say to me that it cost too much. We then proceed to go where the cell outlets are and she looking at Iphones. She say again they cost to much and she does not have the money. I was lost at this point and I asked myself is she expecting for me to pay for the Dress. So I like a sucker go Ahead and pay for the Dress, Hair Curly Iron and a women pocketbook that she wanted. All I got for it was a thank you at the train station and I will see you some time later. I said to myself that is what I get for being nice. Before she left I asked her can I come and visit you at your house. She tells me that I can not visit her house because parents would get mad. My one question to you ans since you know culture, was that true what she told me that I could visit because of her parents?

I think I am being railroaded but if I am I will take this as lesson learned.

[QUOTE=Amjeck;1208027]The main draw for most foreign men to come to LOS is for the cheap available pussy. Being that this is a sex board I assume most guys here fit in that category. Now lets imagine that tomorrow the thais closed all their sex venues to foreigners and the only available pussy was fat ugly Thai women at $300 / short time. How many mongers would continue to spend their time here to enjoy the other things on offer?[/QUOTE]Why would you want to fuck a fat ugly women when you can most likely get that back home anytime you wanted. Why travel almost 28 hours (in my case) to fuck some beastly looking animal. There are whales and dogs back home that I can fuck and save myself the airplane and hotel fare.

EHContento,

I no expert on Thai culture!

But she didn't lie to you after everythng she didn't have sex with you so she kept her word just friends.

When she went shopping everything was too expensive? too expensive for her if she had to buy with her own money! But it was okay for you to buy so you figure it out already without me having to tell you.

When it isn't your money its great. I have lots of Thai women mad at me because Farangs over coffee ask me if their girlfriends or wife ideas are any good? I tell them to tell their girlfriends or wife to first go to a bank with their idea and if the bank will loan them the money you should go ahead and give or loan them the money without interest.

Here unless you plan to marry them don't meet the parents. She did you a favor by not taking you home? Bringing you home might have given her parents that she is working in a bar etc. When she isn't or don't want them to know?

Also, go easy on Amjeck, you just purchase all that stuff for a Thai girl and got nothing but a thank you for it after all those hours on a flight when you yourself could have stay home and done tje same thing and gotten the same thank you?

If you don't know by now Amjeck likes his women big,fat, ugly and CHEAP and will spend the time on a long flight to get it?

LBM

[QUOTE=ElHombreContento; 1208037]Hi LittleBigMan,

I just met a local girl today who just wanted to meet and just be friends first. I met her here at one of the Mall in Bangkok. I first we went to the Starsbucks and we talked for a bit. Then she tells me that she has to go and buy a dress for her brother wedding and hair curly iron. She asked me if I wanted to go with her. I tell her to be with her would be my pleasure. We go to another Mall and she goes on to tell me that all of the foreigners come to shop here. That is the first hint that I get as to what is coming up. Oh, before I go she STATES rather strongle that we are only friends and nothing else. I tell her I agree with her. We go to many of the store looking for a dress first, she finds one but tells me,"Dress cost to much money". We then go to a place where they sell the hair curling iron, she looks at it and then say to me that it cost too much. We then proceed to go where the cell outlets are and she looking at Iphones. She say again they cost to much and she does not have the money. I was lost at this point and I asked myself is she expecting for me to pay for the Dress. So I like a sucker go Ahead and pay for the Dress, Hair Curly Iron and a women pocketbook that she wanted. All I got for it was a thank you at the train station and I will see you some time later. I said to myself that is what I get for being nice. Before she left I asked her can I come and visit you at your house. She tells me that I can not visit her house because parents would get mad. My one question to you ans since you know culture, was that true what she told me that I could visit because of her parents?

I think I am being railroaded but if I am I will take this as lesson learned.[/QUOTE]Is this a joke, are you serious? You met a woman today and you decided to buy her a dress, a pocketbook and a hair iron? Why? Is that the way men operate in your culture or better yet would you do this to a woman you met in your hometown after she told you up front that she only wants to be friends? This has nothing to do with thai culture and you were not railroaded because this has to be shtick.

Dear friends.

Why do you use thid thread to discuss this matter?

The Forum has other threads to discuss such matters.

This is a "Bangkok Reports" thread.

Forgive me if I am wrong

[QUOTE=ElHombreContento; 1208037]I just met a local girl today who just wanted to meet and just be friends first. .

I think I am being railroaded but if I am I will take this as lesson learned.[/QUOTE]You are too funny! Can I just be your friend too? I need a new laptop and a scooter and flatscreen TV, but it is too expensive.

[QUOTE=James02;1207838]You mentiond China town as being a hot spot for the action and you said you got a service for 500. But you did not indicate time spent. How much time did you get with the Girl for 500?[/QUOTE]The deal in Thai low-end areas (like Chinatown) with 300-500 baht fares is always wham-bam-thank-you-mam. As long as it takes you to finish. I guess that's 10-20 minutes on average, although I had a longer session ( 50 min) with one of the girls (and gave her a 100 baht tip). Not GFE, although anything can be negotiated.

[QUOTE=James02;1207838]Are there any other areas of Bankok that are hot spots? I know ElHombreContento mentioned Nana; what and where is this?[/QUOTE]Sometimes we forget how daunting this pile of discussions is to newbies. Try a simple guide like [url]http://nana-soi-cowboy-redlight-guide.weebly.com/[/url]

If you don't know where Nana Plaza is, don't bother going to Thai areas like Chinatown for mongering. You are guaranteed to have a lousy time there compared to the Farang areas. On the other hand, the seafood is quite fine.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1207547]I think that I am having more great times and less duds through experience to recognise the girl's level of enthusiasm, and since the ISG has been making me aware of the best places and also the places to not bother.[/QUOTE]On the one hand, all the old hands might say that "things aren't like they used to be anymore," or "it's getting worse." I would say that I miss those Friday and Saturday nights when there just seemed to be a ton of freelancers in the BG or Gullivers that you'd never seen before, that worked regular jobs during the week, just coming out to make some extra cash. How many girls did I have in my rolodex who were sweet, came and spent the night, never ever asked about how much, and even at 1000 baht a time, would still come back again and again. Yeah, those days do seem kind of few and far in between. But I completely agree, on the other hand I have gotten far more experienced and wiser. My instincts are good, and my success ratios are very high, and I still seem to have a big grin on my face as the girls strut their sexy butts down the hallway. You learn exactly what you like, what you don't like, what you will put up with and what you won't, and you get rid of 80% of the excess garbage.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1208115]The deal in Thai low-end areas (like Chinatown) with

300-500 baht fares is always wham-bam-thank-you-mam. As long as it takes you to

Finish. I guess that's 10-20 minutes on average, although I had a longer

Session (50 min) with one of the girls (and gave her a 100 baht tip). Not GFE,

Although anything can be negotiated.[/QUOTE]Well 500 bah for a third world contory in less then half an hour.

That sound very expencive.

I would of thought you could have the whole night for that.

I was speaking to someone today in person and he reconds that Pattaya is cheaper then bankok.

Can someone please clarify this?

[QUOTE=Gregbro; 1208095]Dear friends.

Why do you use thid thread to discuss this matter?

The Forum has other threads to discuss such matters.

This is a "Bangkok Reports" thread.

Forgive me if I am wrong[/QUOTE]In all due respect. Please define for me aside from Sex what should be in the Bangkok Report Thread. If the weather relates to Bangkok we should be able to talk about weather. If food relates to Bangkok we should be able to talk about food. If culture or people relates to Bangkok we should be able to talk about culture and people. If you are looking for a site that is perfect and only stick to a specific topic and posters never get off track this isn't it and never will be, so yes in my opinion you are wrong and you are forgiven. This is the Bangkok thread patients and good things will come?

LBM

[QUOTE=James02; 1208173]Well 500 bah for a third world contory in less then half an hour.

That sound very expencive.

I would of thought you could have the whole night for that.

I was speaking to someone today in person and he reconds that Pattaya is cheaper then bankok.

Can someone please clarify this?[/QUOTE]Geez, from the questions you asked, you obviously didn't read the forum. Although it does take effort to go thru all the BS.

But I'll answer some of your questions; maybe you'll stop asking everywhere. I think it's funny when the bandwidth police complains about people wasting, but then they waste the same bandwidth complaining.

Thailand is not 3rd world. It should be 2nd world. The Thai baht got a lot stronger. If you think 500 baht ($15 US) is expensive, then you need to go to a cheaper destination.

You also asked on the other threads about cheap sex destinations. Cambodia is the cheapest out of the big 3 (Thailand, Cambodia and Philippines). You can get it between $5 to $10 at the cheap dirty shack brothels; maybe a little bit cheaper if you try to be a cheap local. It still will be a one shot deal. If you want to eat, sleep and fuck for the cheapest price, it will be Cambodia.

Vietnam has cheap food and guesthouses, but the P4P scene is a hassle. You can get $10 BJs. Vietnam can be cheap, only if you are experienced and don't want the hot looking girls.

Burma, from what I read (never been there) , might be cheap as / or cheaper than Cambodia. But the infrastructure isn't there. Mexico and definitely Brazil will be more expensive than Cambodia.

If you want cheaper, my guess would be to go to Africa where people are starving. There you might be able to get some for cake (just like some of those UN peacekeepers).

Of course Pattaya is cheaper than Bangkok. The main capital of a country is always more expensive. 1 or 2 hours away is always cheaper. Pattaya and Angeles is cheaper than Bangkok and Manila.

[QUOTE=Run Mann;1208063]Is this a joke, are you serious? You met a woman today and you decided to buy her a dress, a pocketbook and a hair iron? Why? Is that the way men operate in your culture or better yet would you do this to a woman you met in your hometown after she told you up front that she only wants to be friends? This has nothing to do with thai culture and you were not railroaded because this has to be shtick.[/QUOTE]That was most definitely a joke. Nobody is that naive (read stupid).

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1208016]Regardless, how much we tell Thais that we are not all loaded in cash and we are just like Thais, some have it, some don't and there are many in between. It doesn't sink in![/QUOTE]Last time I entered the country the immigration guy looked in my passport and asked why I had been to Thailand so many times this year. I told him that I lived here. He said so you are rich. I said if I was rich I probably wouldn't live here in a 4,500 baht/month room.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1208016]I certainly don't feel Thais hate me but the closes I could come is that they feel because we are here or live here they are entitled to cheat or ask us to pay more. Just this year I was at Royal Garden with my son and his friend they wanted to see the Wax museum. Jack Spirro, of Pirates of Carribean told the cashier to charge me Farang price. I told the guy " Ding Dong " I have live here for nearly 10 years at what point do you think I could pay Thai price " another fruit loop Thai shot back at me and said " if you have been here 10 years you should have a Thai driver license " I show him one and he didn't say a thing[/QUOTE]I'm a bit different from you. I am quick to whip out my license and tell them that I live here and I'm not going to pay farang price. That always sets them straight. I met a group of guys in the airport coming to Pattaya and decided to take a van with them. There was a lady holding a sign outside immigration and asked if we needed transportation. I told her yes. A van for 9 people. She said 2500 baht. I told her in Thai while showing her my license that I live here and I am not crazy. I will give you 1500 baht. She said okay let me call the boss. 10 minutes later the driver arrived and walked us out to the van.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1208016]I'm a Farang that knows too much and look like them and that has many plus with Thai women but in the end I am no better or worse than you guys except this ATM has limitation. The women believe what they want and I always tell them the truth " I have no money to take care of you "[/QUOTE]The more you tell them this, the more they want you. I have a wingman in town who always tells the women to stay with the guy who is sending them money and paying them a lot because he is not going to do it. But for some reason they always want to forego the money. The other day we were sitting with a group of girls and I was telling them that we do not want to be #1, we want to be #2. #1 has too many responsibilities and has to send money and take shit from them. #2 is the guy they just want to have fun with and money has nothing to do with it. The girl he is with now has been with him for the last few days and he is giving her 800 baht / day.