Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2536429]Steve,

That breaks my heart. You have to come meet me and Dramafree in Monterrey and I will introduce you to women who will blow your socks off for 20% of that amount. I have two very nice women I can hand off to you, and Steve, they are beautiful and they are not your typical American screwups. Monterrey is an hour and a half flight from Dallas or Houston, so I think you can hit it in almost four hours from anywhere in the USA.

I have guys I am going to meet going to Colombia in a few weeks and others wanting to go to Brazil in the summer. I hope you consider saving up and going with us.

I have a trip planned with Flo and Nancy for four days, and it is going to cost a little above that $700 to $1000 mark, and it is with two women for four days. $1000 for a meet? Fuck that place, dude.[/QUOTE]Yeah kinda breaks my heart too. My buddy is in Medellin and Snapchatting me the duos he's having for $70 total. And they are HOT. Sigh. The US sucks. At least we have seeking.

I'm kinda fixated on one girl now who is super hot Colombiana bar tender and super sweet as well. For allowance she just said "we can start with something small and increase as our relationship grows. Whatever you are comfortable with I wouldn't want to impose".

Is that cool? Or is there a hammer about to fall on me? Most girls just state their price. Two have given me that sort of line. Any advice. Push on it or just deal in person after sex?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2536614]Yeah kinda breaks my heart too. My buddy is in Medellin and Snapchatting me the duos he's having for $70 total. And they are HOT. Sigh. The US sucks. At least we have seeking.

I'm kinda fixated on one girl now who is super hot Colombiana bar tender and super sweet as well. For allowance she just said "we can start with something small and increase as our relationship grows. Whatever you are comfortable with I wouldn't want to impose".

Is that cool? Or is there a hammer about to fall on me? Most girls just state their price. Two have given me that sort of line. Any advice. Push on it or just deal in person after sex?[/QUOTE]I tried the monthly allowance thing. I think there have been three or four times in my life a woman's beauty just left me speechless. The last time I did monthly was with one of these girls. She was a mixed girl and a great lover. This was back 10 years ago, and I did something I would not today, $2000 a month.

Every second after she got that money, she was angling for more. Halfway into the month, there was just a straw that broke the camel's back, and I was like "Fuck it, I am out. " She called me back a few years later, I saw her and fucked her at her place which was very nice. She claimed to have a job and then I realized she did not. She hooked up with a guy, sucked him dry, and he put up with her longer than I did. I think they lived together, and she bought him tons of things, and then when she turned him down, he lost it and hit her, and she got him kicked out of their place. Seeing what she did with him sealed it for me, and I never saw her again. The notion that she is a victim in today's society just makes me sick. She is and was a blood sucker.

So when I told women that is why I never paid monthly, they never pushed it. People have said that paying by the month makes women feel more like working girls, and my response to that is I do not care. I am not going to be suckered like that again. Paying in advance is almost always a bad idea.

As for her offering you a lower bargain rate, that goes against the natural order as well. For women, there is less fear factor with the known and so I saw they would take less as I got to know them better. Also, usually with men, the pleasure goes down after the first and second meeting with a woman so the value is less as well. I would usually start higher and then go lower especially if the women were not performing as well.

As for a bartender, I am assuming she works here and is from Colombia. Maybe there is a female bartender that is not a flake or drunk, but I cannot recall meeting and getting to know one that is not.

My last SB found herself in that field. She is stunning but more than that she is a health nut and gives off this healthy woman, therapist vibe. So we go out to eat at some sub shop like Subway, and she is asked by staff how she is doing and she says, "Fine, how are you?" Time and again, people would go over all their problems with her for like 15 minutes even if it meant holding up the line. It was bizarre.

The real irony and one of the reasons she liked me so much is that I knew she was bipolar and I really got what that entailed. So often after one of these therapy sessions, we would head back to my place, and she would say, "Elvis, I want to kill myself. I am thinking about slashing my wrists", and I would have to soothe her and talk her out of it.

I am not sure that is what a typical female bartender is. Great listening, problem solving, sweet, chaste woman at the bar and wrist slashing sugar baby in private, but I do not think that is really so much of an exception for bartenders.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2536635]I tried the monthly allowance thing. I think there have been three or four times in my life a woman's beauty just left me speechless. The last time I did monthly was with one of these girls. She was a mixed girl and a great lover. This was back 10 years ago, and I did something I would not today, $2000 a month.

Every second after she got that money, she was angling for more. Halfway into the month, there was just a straw that broke the camel's back, and I was like "Fuck it, I am out. " She called me back a few years later, I saw her and fucked her at her place which was very nice. She claimed to have a job and then I realized she did not. She hooked up with a guy, sucked him dry, and he put up with her longer than I did. I think they lived together, and she bought him tons of things, and then when she turned him down, he lost it and hit her, and she got him kicked out of their place. Seeing what she did with him sealed it for me, and I never saw her again. The notion that she is a victim in today's society just makes me sick. She is and was a blood sucker..[/QUOTE]Lots of good observations in the last few threads, which I'll confirm from my experience. Of course, stereotypes are only held by bigots, monsters, and misanthropes in general, blah blah blah. But patterns exist nonetheless.

"Luv", "Hon": it's been observed many times that these terms are not typically used by your girl next door on the first message with a stranger.

Regular and / or advanced payments: yep, just don't do it, unless you like being taken for granted.

Bartenders: they're fun, they're social, everybody loves them, their cell phone is blowing up all day / all night. It's hard for them to keep up with all the attention, so don't take it personally when they don't get back to you right away. Or ever again.

Now of course, YMMV. But it probably won't.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2536635]I tried the monthly allowance thing. I think there have been three or four times in my life a woman's beauty just left me speechless. The last time I did monthly was with one of these girls. She was a mixed girl and a great lover. This was back 10 years ago, and I did something I would not today, $2000 a month.

Every second after she got that money, she was angling for more. Halfway into the month, there was just a straw that broke the camel's back, and I was like "Fuck it, I am out. " She called me back a few years later, I saw her and fucked her at her place which was very nice. She claimed to have a job and then I realized she did not. She hooked up with a guy, sucked him dry, and he put up with her longer than I did. I think they lived together, and she bought him tons of things, and then when she turned him down, he lost it and hit her, and she got him kicked out of their place. Seeing what she did with him sealed it for me, and I never saw her again. The notion that she is a victim in today's society just makes me sick. She is and was a blood sucker.

So when I told women that is why I never paid monthly, they never pushed it. People have said that paying by the month makes women feel more like working girls, and my response to that is I do not care. I am not going to be suckered like that again. Paying in advance is almost always a bad idea.[/QUOTE]I have also had issues with monthly allowances. Not sure I would do it again, unless I have known the girl for several months, even then probably not.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2536429]Steve,

That breaks my heart. You have to come meet me and Dramafree in Monterrey and I will introduce you to women who will blow your socks off for 20% of that amount. I have two very nice women I can hand off to you, and Steve, they are beautiful and they are not your typical American screwups. Monterrey is an hour and a half flight from Dallas or Houston, so I think you can hit it in almost four hours from anywhere in the USA.

I have guys I am going to meet going to Colombia in a few weeks and others wanting to go to Brazil in the summer. I hope you consider saving up and going with us.

I have a trip planned with Flo and Nancy for four days, and it is going to cost a little above that $700 to $1000 mark, and it is with two women for four days. $1000 for a meet? Fuck that place, dude.[/QUOTE]Yep, it would be a great time, Steve. MTY is so much fun and there are some extremely hot girls there. I am banging way better girls then I was meeting in Kiev and Colombia, not even close, but I am close to MTY and I am focusing all my resources there. The plan and the hard work is definitely working.

Elvis I hope your trip goes well.

[QUOTE=CarloRogue;2536752]Lots of good observations in the last few threads, which I'll confirm from my experience. Of course, stereotypes are only held by bigots, monsters, and misanthropes in general, blah blah blah. But patterns exist nonetheless.

"Luv", "Hon": it's been observed many times that these terms are not typically used by your girl next door on the first message with a stranger.

Regular and / or advanced payments: yep, just don't do it, unless you like being taken for granted.

Bartenders: they're fun, they're social, everybody loves them, their cell phone is blowing up all day / all night. It's hard for them to keep up with all the attention, so don't take it personally when they don't get back to you right away. Or ever again.

Now of course, YMMV. But it probably won't.[/QUOTE]MMIV — My Mileage is Varying!

We are chatting nightly and she is plenty fiirty and open. She is clearly a bar tender at where she says she is because she knows things about that you wouldn't normally know. She's not a catfish for sure. Really open with dropping a current no makeup selfie if it's relevant to the chat. And fuck she looks great even no makeup.

She seems a bit too good to be true so keeping eyes and options open. But so far just a bundle of fun (very quick witted) and very optimistic. I've found some real gems so hoping she is one.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2536905]Elvis I hope your trip goes well.[/QUOTE]Thanks, brother. If it works out, I will have to do it one more time.

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Mongers,

I have never used SA but would like to give it a chance, however I see a problem. I do not want to put my real name into this site to get premium and they only take CC it seems. Any suggestions?

AshleyMadison and other sites have been hacked and your information can be leaked. Yea I am the nervous type. Thanks.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2537700]Mongers,

I have never used SA but would like to give it a chance, however I see a problem. I do not want to put my real name into this site to get premium and they only take CC it seems. Any suggestions?

AshleyMadison and other sites have been hacked and your information can be leaked. Yea I am the nervous type. Thanks.[/QUOTE]One Vanilla pre-paid VISA debit card (non-reloadable). Whatever address you use on the payment form, remember and reuse it for whenever you renew.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2536296]

Hun and Love. I've noticed a few girls I am in contact with calling me hun or hunny or love. In the past I've associated those terms with hookers. Just based on prior experience. And maybe it doesn't even matter. But what's your experience there. Are these code words for I am a pro? Or am I reading too much into it.
[/QUOTE]Usually the waitresses at the BBQ places call me Sweetheart, Hun or Love because they are trying to get more tip money out of me. I tell them, in the South we call strangers "Sir or Madam. " Sometimes I ask them if they know my name, if they are calling me their "Hun. " They usually say they call everyone that name.

For those who have been successful and happy with SA, do you put your real photo on your profile? How do you guard against people who know you seeing you?

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2538526]For those who have been successful and happy with SA, do you put your real photo on your profile? How do you guard against people who know you seeing you?[/QUOTE]I don't have photos. It has not been an issue for me but I don't know if it will be better with photos. I do send photo via chat apps early on in the chat apps.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2538526]For those who have been successful and happy with SA, do you put your real photo on your profile? How do you guard against people who know you seeing you?[/QUOTE]Same as Nounce. No photo and never a problem. I mention in my profile that I will send by text or email. Seriously only ever had one or two girls out of thousands mention it. Guess it's pretty common w daddies.

P.S. Tip. If you do send a photo and are paranoid make sure it can't be reverse searched. One way to do this is take a pic of your photo on the computer screen. The pixels will be all different.

I tell them I will do Meet and Greet in daylight as Starbucks and if she likes me we proceed else I pay her Uber and drinks and bid Bye to her. Not sending any pics at all, either by chat or phone. About 3 out of 10 girls say they have to have a pic to meet me and I go on to the next girl.