Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2063943]What do I do?
...Since I never pay at oilies before the session and I am a regular customer, not ridiculously demanding (I don't look to pound a gal's keister for 90 min), and speak the language, am polite about it, they accommodate me without a problem. Twice at soapies I have had an issue. First time I made the mistake of getting dressed and going out to complain and the papasan just ignored me. Next time I called the papasan to the room and was offered a change of gal...Why? Because I never raise my voice, never lose my temper, and make them the focus. I point out that this was her decision not mine; she has chosen not to provide the service...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the hints, but you have to admit that it's easier if you lived there and spoke the language. For folks like me who are there for a couple of weeks, with no language abilities, it is tough. The best I can do is not come back.

BTW, I have mongered in Jakarta, I liked the girls but the service was similar to Thailand. I had good service and bad service there.

[QUOTE=Soroche;2064041]I have have serious issues with ladies checking their phone. If its in the middle of a two hour session when I'm taking a break its ok otherwise I tell (not ask) them to turn it off. I like the point about Sunk cost in Natty's post and I also take into account the lost opportunity cost if you are married, have a girlfriend or may be leaving soon. As I am getting older every shot has value because it takes time to rebuild my "power" so why waste it on a session that clearly turning negative.

For example, I walked out of Addict a couple of months ago after waiting 15 minutes for the girl to get her kit, then a shower as erotic as a carwash, a one minute "massage" squeezing a calf muscle while yawning and a blow job literally lasting all of 10 seconds if that. When she reached for the condom I said "We're finished, I'm out of here". She got visibly upset and said "Mister if you leave now I will have big problem". I replied "Too bad, that's your problem" and left. Her name was CC. I lost the money for 2 hours but was able to salvage the opportunity and not waste a shot and had a nice session at another shop.[/QUOTE]Hopefully you told the mamasan exactly what transpired. If you didn't the gal will continue to get away with poor service.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2064085]Thanks for the hints, but you have to admit that it's easier if you lived there and spoke the language. For folks like me who are there for a couple of weeks, with no language abilities, it is tough. The best I can do is not come back.

BTW, I have mongered in Jakarta, I liked the girls but the service was similar to Thailand. I had good service and bad service there.[/QUOTE]I think if you are polite and do everything with a smile and don't lose your temper; then you can do the same.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2064231]Hopefully you told the mamasan exactly what transpired. If you didn't the gal will continue to get away with poor service.[/QUOTE]I could have been more diplomatic when the mamasan asked if there was a problem with the service. I replied "It was great that's why I'm leaving after 25 minutes". I have been here for 10 years and know the culture and how to behave and you would be right to criticise my response as rude and unhelpful but I doubt that they really care or would do anything to the girl. If it had been one of the shops that I frequent I may have said something but I have never had service this bad and I make allowances for a lady that may be tired, sick or have some personal problems.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2064232]I think if you are polite and do everything with a smile and don't lose your temper; then you can do the same.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree with you more. Not raising your voice not showing anger remaining in good humor while explaining that what's happening or more correctly what's hot happening isn't really what you were expecting, this is the way to go.

When you have paid up front (to be avoided if possible) E. G. To an escort you might just have to put it down to experience, however at oilies and soapies you can usually negotiate a replacement if not a refund.

As advised here many times always discuss in advance and in some detail what service you want, what the fee is and how long the session is for. Thinking what is happening is love at first sight and doing this will kill the spontaneity is naive nonsense. These are working girls and they will prefer this arrangement. In my experience the girls genuinely want to give you a good time and knowing what you like and it matches their skill set relaxes everybody.

Also while not always possible to know where its headed importantly don't allow the session to proceed past the first 15 minutes or so if any of what was agreed is being reneged on or you realize she's just really not into you and shows it.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2063398]The problem with choosing based on smile and eye contact is that some women do that just to hook you into choosing them, not that they want to go with you and give you a good time. At soapies and oilies, I never choose someone without first asking them to sit with me and discuss what we can do in the room. As an example, in Sabai Room in Pattaya, I saw a girl I liked who smiled at me. I asked the papasan to have her come talk to me. She came and I inquired if she spoke English, which she did, and asked her if she kissed. She said no. I told her that I couldn't fuck without kissing but she still said no, so I thanked her and left, probably much to her (and the papasan"s) surprise. However, had I not asked, I probably would have been stuck with a session I didn't want.[/QUOTE]Right on Jimmy Boy.

Any sign of play acting, and I am not choosing the girl. It's a lot easier to check girls out in a bar, and can find out if they prefer Farangs, big or small dick, like kissing, etc. Also I get to see if the body is fabulous, soso, or damaged. However your advice for Soapies is good.

Perhaps the Lord is guaranteeing undamaged bodies but definitely not the case in most Soapies, and I regard silicone tits as damage as well (misshaped tits). My girl at the Lord did not kiss and overall was very soso and not worth the high cost. Very white skin but I am not a skin colour bigot. I get better at the bar. I generally have had poor success rates at Soapies for years, I think generally as the girls have too much surgeries, or are used to Asian customers.

I had a good soapy session sometimes, but I think just was good luck rather than my good management.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2066306]Right on Jimmy Boy.

Any sign of play acting, and I am not choosing the girl. It's a lot easier to check girls out in a bar, and can find out if they prefer Farangs, big or small dick, like kissing, etc. Also I get to see if the body is fabulous, soso, or damaged. However your advice for Soapies is good.

Perhaps the Lord is guaranteeing undamaged bodies but definitely not the case in most Soapies, and I regard silicone tits as damage as well (misshaped tits). My girl at the Lord did not kiss and overall was very soso and not worth the high cost. Very white skin but I am not a skin colour bigot. I get better at the bar. I generally have had poor success rates at Soapies for years, I think generally as the girls have too much surgeries, or are used to Asian customers.

I had a good soapy session sometimes, but I think just was good luck rather than my good management.[/QUOTE]I think they are all play acting and just like Hollywood actors, some are better at it than others. I can't visualize a beautiful, 20 year old with a perfect body becoming really excited to kiss our 60+ year old faces attached to a probably overweight body. Your point about being able to check out their bodies is certainly true and if what you need is looks over performance I guess bars are the way to go. However, I value performance over looks and find the best results for me have been at the massage shops like Tulip, Snow White, Mango where the ladies are older and maybe not as attractive but provide good service. I generally find and inverse relationship of beauty and price to service.

[QUOTE=Soroche;2066446]I think they are all play acting and just like Hollywood actors, some are better at it than others. I can't visualize a beautiful, 20 year old with a perfect body becoming really excited to kiss our 60+ year old faces attached to a probably overweight body. Your point about being able to check out their bodies is certainly true and if what you need is looks over performance I guess bars are the way to go. However, I value performance over looks and find the best results for me have been at the massage shops like Tulip, Snow White, Mango where the ladies are older and maybe not as attractive but provide good service. I generally find and inverse relationship of beauty and price to service.[/QUOTE]Some girls claim they like older men. I don't know if its true. One skinny bargirl dancer in long Gun a few years backed, knocked me back, saying she hardly ever goes with customers for sex, but sometimes does, and prefers cuddly guys much fatter than me (perhaps she wanted younger as well LOL). Possibly not totally honest but I did not detect much play acting.

Some girls can be relatively straight forward and maybe too lazy to do much actual acting.

You are right that ugly girls have to give good service, otherwise they will get so little business. Repeat business becomes essential. Stunning girls don't rely on repeat business so heavily and so can get away with average to bad service.

Does not mean its impossible to find a good fun good looker. Just don't expect everything, e. G. The tits maybe real small. Any girl that is too good, just doesn't last in P4 P. They all have to have major flaws of one type or another to be left in the P4 P business, unless showing extreme independence.

Had a quick BKK trip last week end.

Day-1 - Snow White.

Took Emmy, very nice service and very friendly. Smiley face, young looking. WIR -Yes.

Day-2 Snow white, this time no one was available (1 PM) only available was Cherry, though the service level was good, not as attractive as Emmy.

Day-2 : Bamboo Massage: Girls name is. Time. No smile at the beginning, but once in to the job, she was super wet! I wanted to go for a second round, but my battery was down already with repeated action and if I get another opportunity, will definitely meet her.

Also had a couple of girls from CL, they were good.

Overall it was a very satisfying trip.

I had a look at the MP's in Soi 24/1 around 15 o'clock on Tuesday and did not see any cutie sitting in front of any shop. I had a look at Cherry's website before going there and saw a girl named May that might be worth a visit. There was just the mamasan sitting outside and once she saw me she probably recognized me from previous visits in other shops on that Soi. I remember her working previously in Boss and in one of the Ohtemachi shops. I enquired about May but unfortunately she wasn't there, but she told me that she had another girl that would do everything I want.

I asked her about the baby damage and once I was sure she is free of damage I asked to see her.

BB came in and was wearing a tight office style uniform that suited her very well, especially her ass. She is around 1.65 meters, not slim nor fat, tanned skin, black long hairs, no scars on the face nor on the body. I would say that she is a little bit heavier than most Thai girls but still good looking. She was not smiling at all and I had the feeling that she was not very pleased to have to service me. I decided to take her upstairs anyway as I wanted to fuck some ass and selection was looking slim in most shops at that time.

Once in the room I realized that she was very nice but just not the most expressive girl. She's got a nice big ass, nice boobs and no tummy. She went at work quickly beginning with a good BBBJ with some DT, then 69 where she got aroused pretty fast and then FS with some A+ action for a few minutes but she felt uncomfortable as she didn't go to toilet before my visit. After what she called an " accident " I had a shower waiting for her to come back, and she was good at making me wake up again but this time I didn't try to fuck her ass.

I would recommend to let her do a massage between the 2 rounds because she is very good at it. I usually don't want any massage in these kind of places because the girls were not skilled in my past experiences, but BB really surprised me with her skills. The second round started with a long rimming with a HJ with plenty of gel. I thought that it would be difficult to make me hard again but her technique was great and I decided to not fuck her again and just to unload like this.

She gave me a good experience and so far, I've been there only twice and both times the girls were expressless downstairs and were getting better in the room. BB was very nice and friendly during the whole session. For those who know her sister (I think it was Yaya), she said that she is not in the business anymore and would probably not come back.

Price: 2300 baht for 2 hours.

WIR? Yes, she is great even though I prefer them more slim.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2068022]I had a look at the MP's in Soi 24/1 around 15 o'clock on Tuesday and did not see any cutie sitting in front of any shop. I had a look at Cherry's website before going there and saw a girl named May that might be worth a visit. There was just the mamasan sitting outside and once she saw me she probably recognized me from previous visits in other shops on that Soi. I remember her working previously in Boss and in one of the Ohtemachi shops. I enquired about May but unfortunately she wasn't there, but she told me that she had another girl that would do everything I want.

I asked her about the baby damage and once I was sure she is free of damage I asked to see her.

BB came in and was wearing a tight office style uniform that suited her very well, especially her ass. She is around 1.65 meters, not slim nor fat, tanned skin, black long hairs, no scars on the face nor on the body. I would say that she is a little bit heavier than most Thai girls but still good looking. She was not smiling at all and I had the feeling that she was not very pleased to have to service me. I decided to take her upstairs anyway as I wanted to fuck some ass and selection was looking slim in most shops at that time.

Once in the room I realized that she was very nice but just not the most expressive girl. She's got a nice big ass, nice boobs and no tummy. She went at work quickly beginning with a good BBBJ with some DT, then 69 where she got aroused pretty fast and then FS with some A+ action for a few minutes but she felt uncomfortable as she didn't go to toilet before my visit. After what she called an " accident " I had a shower waiting for her to come back, and she was good at making me wake up again but this time I didn't try to fuck her ass..[/QUOTE]I heard Yaya (sister) is working in Dubai or Hong Kong. I had BB on my last trip. Cute girl, good service. Usually good a A+ service. I would definitely repeat!

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2068022]
BB came in and was wearing a tight office style uniform that suited her very well, especially her ass. She is around 1.65 meters, not slim nor fat, tanned skin, black long hairs, no scars on the face nor on the body. I would say that she is a little bit heavier than most Thai girls but still good looking. She was not smiling at all and I had the feeling that she was not very pleased to have to service me. I decided to take her upstairs anyway as I wanted to fuck some ass and selection was looking slim in most shops at that time.

Once in the room I realized that she was very nice but just not the most expressive girl. She's got a nice big ass, nice boobs and no tummy. She went at work quickly beginning with a good BBBJ with some DT, then 69 where she got aroused pretty fast and then FS with some A+ action for a few minutes but she felt uncomfortable as she didn't go to toilet before my visit. After what she called an " accident " I had a shower waiting for her to come back, and she was good at making me wake up again but this time I didn't try to fuck her ass.

WIR? Yes, she is great even though I prefer them more slim.[/QUOTE]I had BB a few time 4 years ago, when she was fresh in the buisness. Nice and cute girl. I remember she wasn't shaved at that time. I ordered her for an outcall and bought her a shaver and shaved her good. But next time, a few months later she was not shaved again, I asked her why and she said it was so itchy after shave. I also remember she was not so fond of A+, even if mamasan stated she was. I had her for 3 hours in my hotel room, and after a couple of hours she became sleepy. I took out a clit vibrator and tried on her and she became totally wild again!! It's always a good idea to bring a small clit vibrator, most girls seems to enjoy them!!

[QUOTE=DextroSol;2068381] I remember she wasn't shaved at that time. I ordered her for an outcall and bought her a shaver and shaved her good. But next time, a few months later she was not shaved again, I asked her why and she said it was so itchy after shave. I also remember she was not so fond of A+, even if mamasan stated she was.[/QUOTE]She was still not shaved, maybe just trimmed, I don't remember very well but it was not a jungle down there. And I agree about the A+, I think she just offers it to please her customers. I recently had a look at their website and found her more attractive in real life than on their pictures.

[QUOTE=Soroche;2066446]I think they are all play acting and just like Hollywood actors, some are better at it than others. I can't visualize a beautiful, 20 year old with a perfect body becoming really excited to kiss our 60+ year old faces attached to a probably overweight body. Your point about being able to check out their bodies is certainly true and if what you need is looks over performance I guess bars are the way to go. However, I value performance over looks and find the best results for me have been at the massage shops like Tulip, Snow White, Mango where the ladies are older and maybe not as attractive but provide good service. I generally find and inverse relationship of beauty and price to service.[/QUOTE]I actually want looks and a good performance, however does not have to be a pornstar for me. Fortunately I don't need anal since it is very rarely offered to me. Each to their own style. I collect good looker regulars to repeat often, so very few bad sessions that way. My list of regulars has dwindled badly, unfortunately to about 3 or 4.

I know Emmy at SW is good and very enthusiastic, and I was one of the first to review her years ago, but I am still not motivated since perhaps the looks are a bit too ordinary (including the nose). Just my problem with finding hot girls for my spec.

I have to get very lucky indeed to find cheap price, good looker and good performance. Happens occasionally but those girls never last long. I could get lucky a budget Soapy occasionally, however the girl will obviously not be absolute top looks and service for that price.

Plenty of times I have to be prepared to miss out, if just cannot find any girl suitable available at the time, and don't want to take the risk to try a new one.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2068400]She was still not shaved, maybe just trimmed, I don't remember very well but it was not a jungle down there. And I agree about the A+, I think she just offers it to please her customers. I recently had a look at their website and found her more attractive in real life than on their pictures.[/QUOTE]Yes, trimmed is more accurate, there was for sure no jungle down there. .