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300 RS.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/campinas/loira-linda-que-ama-beijo-na-boca-e-sexo-oral-id-ur4zf[/URL]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2745140]I know this girl a little bit. KKK. Her stage name is Louise Nowak. I saw her add on Club Model in April 2022 when I was last in SP. IMHO she was one of the best lookers on that website, so I texted her. She responded quickly and seemed friendly. As our conversation continued, she sent me a zip file with 75 pics and videos of herself, and after a while we got down to business. She wanted 1500 BR which included a 500 br advance payment. In the friendliest way possible I told her I thought 1500 br was a tad high and asked if she would come down in price a little. I also told her I wouldn't send any money in advance. She took my words graciously, but she would not lower her terms or ask, so we ended the conversation on a "maybe we can get together some other time" friendly note. I mean there is no reason to be negative or insulting just because a girl and I can't come to terms. I still wanted her.

Anyway, the next day she texted me and asked if still I wanted to see her..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Haokool;2746849]300 RS.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/campinas/loira-linda-que-ama-beijo-na-boca-e-sexo-oral-id-ur4zf[/URL][/QUOTE]This is not the same girl (Louise Nowak), not even close, but if you dig her give her a try and let us know how you made out.

50% upfront fee of 1500? LOL. You will never ever get that 750 reais back once you hit send. This is the fastest way to scam people and the person who you're talking with on the other end is a dude. This type of fraud is everywhere including on the Brazilian ebay (Mercadolivre).

[QUOTE=Nounce;2746311]She started as Isabelle Drummond. There was a discussion about her in gpguia.[/QUOTE]

First time traveler to SP here. This forum has provided some great advice, but a one questions I have for the more tenured ISGs who don't speak Portuguese. Do you typically communicate / negotiate in English over WhatsApp for clinicas and PAs, or do you use google translate? Any negotiation tips are welcome as well. Feel free to DM me any advice you may have for a newbie. I'll be in SP mid-October if anyone wants to meet-up.

First time I sessioned a girl here and it was a bad one, just got back to the hotel and writing about this. So I saw a girl I like name Jasmine, tall about 5. 8 morena. She starts the shift probably around 6 PM and go into probably 2 AM. I asked her what's her rate, she quoted R1000 so I countered 800 if we go up to the room now, she agreed. Everything was friendly and GFE in the room. BBBJ with eye starring at me. Things were going pretty well I thought, then she had to run into the bathroom to pee at 40 minute mark.

When she came out, she told me in order to continue the full hour, I need to give her additional R200. We argued back and forth through translator, that is not what we agreed upon downstair. I told her she quoted R1000 and I countered R800 and she agreed to that. She said R800 was not for the full hour. After about 5 minute of back and forth, she said it is fine we can continue for the full hour at R800, but at this point, I lost the boner, mood, and interest in her to continue. I told her let's just ended here. I paid her what agreed which is R800.

I guess from now on I got to make sure, when they quoted an hour is to make sure they stay a full hour and everything got to agreed upon. Oh and you track your own hour in the room, if you go over the hour, it is prorated.

[QUOTE=Piggy5891;2747868]First time traveler to SP here. This forum has provided some great advice, but a one questions I have for the more tenured ISGs who don't speak Portuguese. Do you typically communicate / negotiate in English over WhatsApp for clinicas and PAs, or do you use google translate? Any negotiation tips are welcome as well. Feel free to DM me any advice you may have for a newbie. I'll be in SP mid-October if anyone wants to meet-up.[/QUOTE]Google Translate. You don't really negotiate at clincas, at least for me I have not tried to pay more to get what I want, but you can talk to the girl to make sure she would provide the service you need using Google Translate.

Hi. I've been to Sao Paulo a few times and quite familiar with the escort website (clubmodel, splove etc), and I find them a little difficult because I prefer girls speak some English (I know this is very hard to find), but the girls on these sites mostly speak zero English apart from one or two and I find that the pictures are also very misleading. If I go on these sites, I probably find 3-4 girls who I want to book and then I find that they are never available when you need to see them or they string you along a bit and seem to be playing games trying to find the job that's best for them. So I end up spending all night trying to find someone on those sites and come up empty.

I like quality and don't mind paying so 1500,2000, 2500 is actually no problem if I'm getting someone good and worth the price. So looking for other options. Can anyone tell me price at Scandalo / Cafe Foto? I think it might be worth a look if only to have a few drinks and a look out of interest. Are these still the two high end places in SP?

Also, I've been told by a girl that works (and who is very hot, and speaks perfect English, very high end girl), that has an agent. She would be a level above the girls on the sites, but she said because we'd never met that she couldn't introduce me to the agent (long story how we were in contact). Does anyone know of anything like this in Sao Paulo?

One more thing I'm interested in is freelancers or bars in SP? I'm going to stay at Hotel Unique and I know Skye Bar has them, but is there anywhere else in SP? I've been told of one more but can't remember the name.

Any help appreciated.

[QUOTE=Thayerst;2748211]Hi. I've been to Sao Paulo a few times and quite familiar with the escort website (clubmodel, splove etc), and I find them a little difficult because I prefer girls speak some English (I know this is very hard to find), but the girls on these sites mostly speak zero English apart from one or two and I find that the pictures are also very misleading. If I go on these sites, I probably find 3-4 girls who I want to book and then I find that they are never available when you need to see them or they string you along a bit and seem to be playing games trying to find the job that's best for them. So I end up spending all night trying to find someone on those sites and come up empty.

I like quality and don't mind paying so 1500,2000, 2500 is actually no problem if I'm getting someone good and worth the price. So looking for other options. Can anyone tell me price at Scandalo / Cafe Foto? I think it might be worth a look if only to have a few drinks and a look out of interest. Are these still the two high end places? .[/QUOTE]

I have tried a few of the girls from the website and in the end, it just seemed to be more work than it was worth. I prefer going to Scandello and trying to find someone for the weekend. This way I get to scope out all the girls, talk to a few of them and settle on one or two that I connect with and vice versa. At the price level you are quoting, you will definitely find something to your liking at Scandello. The last few times I have been to Scandello have worked out fine for me so I usually don't need to try out other venues or options.

[QUOTE=FlowState985;2748061]
I guess from now on I got to make sure, when they quoted an hour is to make sure they stay a full hour and everything got to agreed upon. Oh and you track your own hour in the room, if you go over the hour, it is prorated.[/QUOTE]Negotiations work only if the girl is not a scammer. Otherwise, it doesn't matter what you negotiate upfront, she will show her true colors in the room and makes sure you have a shitty session. It is impossible to negotiate every tiny detail, so a scammer can take advantage of that and complain about lots of things inside the room and get away with it. My advice is to pick a good girl next time. Just kidding. I wish it is that easy. I try to learn from my mistakes and avoid repeating them, but it is difficult to avoid these situations completely.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2748233]Negotiations work only if the girl is not a scammer. Otherwise, it doesn't matter what you negotiate upfront, she will show her true colors in the room and makes sure you have a shitty session. It is impossible to negotiate every tiny detail, so a scammer can take advantage of that and complain about lots of things inside the room and get away with it. My advice is to pick a good girl next time. Just kidding. I wish it is that easy. I try to learn from my mistakes and avoid repeating them, but it is difficult to avoid these situations completely.[/QUOTE]Yeh, I guess it comes with trial, error, and time. I am not well versed with looking out for scammers and sharks, which probably main reason I don't prefer to session at boates. Atleast in Rio Termas, everything is fixed. Live and learn I guess.

[QUOTE=FlowState985;2743393]
Here's what I notice, I did buy a girl there a drink and she asked for my card to give to bartender, the bartender gave back my card plus a red card and she kept that red one. I assumed it is for her kickback with the place. I drank 3-4 beer plus her drink with was a mixed type of gin drink, and the total bill came out to be R174.[/QUOTE]I leaned about the lady drinks schema in Casarao during my trip in May. I saw this pretty young girl (18 yo) walk into the club with couple of her friends, went and spoke to her. Her friends aske me to buy her a drink because she is thirsty, not a good sign but I bought her a drink anyway. She got her cut exactly like you mentioned. I think those drinks are about 150 are each. In my personal experience, most of the girls who asked for a drink within few moments of talking to them usually not good in the room. Of course there are exceptions, luckily she turned out to be one of them.

A girl could make good money without going to room by just hitting men for drinks. I don't think that is a good incentive.

[QUOTE=FlowState985;2748257]Yeh, I guess it comes with trial, error, and time. I am not well versed with looking out for scammers and sharks, which probably main reason I don't prefer to session at boates. Atleast in Rio Termas, everything is fixed. Live and learn I guess.[/QUOTE]I am also enjoying Rio termas more a more. Other than couple of duds, all of my session in Solarium and 4 x4 were really good.

Same goes in the US at strip clubs. Bartenders will make a non alcoholic drink like. Ice water and juice or add some color in it and make it look like an alcoholic drink while charging the clients the real price of an alcoholic drink. Never buy any girl a drink or eat at these venues. Some girls would just walk around with the drink and dump it out in the bathroom or hands it to another girl as Ive seen it with my own eyes.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2748280]I leaned about the lady drinks schema in Casarao during my trip in May. I saw this pretty young girl (18 yo) walk into the club with couple of her friends, went and spoke to her. Her friends aske me to buy her a drink because she is thirsty, not a good sign but I bought her a drink anyway. She got her cut exactly like you mentioned. I think those drinks are about 150 are each. In my personal experience, most of the girls who asked for a drink within few moments of talking to them usually not good in the room. Of course there are exceptions, luckily she turned out to be one of them.

A girl could make good money without going to room by just hitting men for drinks. I don't think that is a good incentive.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FlowState985;2748257]Yeh, I guess it comes with trial, error, and time. I am not well versed with looking out for scammers and sharks, which probably main reason I don't prefer to session at boates. Atleast in Rio Termas, everything is fixed. Live and learn I guess.[/QUOTE]I think it's just bad luck and it's more costly. I like Termas too but the quantity is much smaller and not as consistent as boates.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2748280]I leaned about the lady drinks schema in Casarao during my trip in May. I saw this pretty young girl (18 yo) walk into the club with couple of her friends, went and spoke to her. Her friends aske me to buy her a drink because she is thirsty, not a good sign but I bought her a drink anyway. She got her cut exactly like you mentioned. I think those drinks are about 150 are each. In my personal experience, most of the girls who asked for a drink within few moments of talking to them usually not good in the room. Of course there are exceptions, luckily she turned out to be one of them.

A girl could make good money without going to room by just hitting men for drinks. I don't think that is a good incentive.[/QUOTE]I read GPGuia to not buy drinks but did not realize it is that expensive. I met a 18 yo morena exactly like you described. During negotiation, she lowered her rate by 50 and wanted me to buy her a drink instead when she already had a new drink in her hand. She said the drink was 85 or similar. That confused the hell out of me especially without the help of Google translate.