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[QUOTE=Igor54;3006600]I have never been to a swingers club in my life. Could anyone post a couple of video links about swinger clubs in Bogota. Or maybe other countries / places that show what a swinger club is in the real sense [/QUOTE]Easy. In a real sense it is a place where all the guys, before going, stop by a casa and pick up a hooker. Then they all meet at the "swinger's club" and switch hookers, thinking that everyone brought their actual partners besides them. Seen plenty of stories here on ISG about swingers clubs but zero guys who brought their actual significant other.
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Curious About Bogota
Dear Friends,
I have been to multiple countries in my mongering outings, and one thing to check off my list is some good looking latinas.
I was trying to scope Brazil earlier but due to language barrier and costlier economics of mongering kept searching further and stumbled upon Bogota, although South America in general is very far away for me, I am still curious about weighing the options.
One major thing that I am concerned about in SA is about safety, as I am a solo traveller the concerns and stakes become even higher. I can see some of you mentioning about going to clubs at night but as per wikisexguide and some other reads that I had, there are strong warnings about going out after the dark (is this true). I will be dependent on public transport (like Uber etc) while I am there, is this option safe? Also is it safe to invite a girl to the apartment/ hotel room? I have read about robbings in such scenarios also.
Although I am not a fluent Spanish speaker, I can understand some of it.
In terms of girls I prefer GFE experience (one that begins with a french kiss), not sure if that is on the menu here or it is just about mechanical fucks.
Would it be better to go to Spain instead of a SA country in terms of general safety and VFM, ofc Spain is much costlier, but some of that cost can be set-off by saving on the travelling expenses from my country.
BTW, I have browsed 4-5 pages of this forum before above write-up.
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[QUOTE=ArnoldNe;3006995]I was trying to scope Brazil earlier but due to language barrier and costlier economics of mongering kept searching further and stumbled upon Bogota, although South America in general is very far away for me, I am still curious about weighing the options.[/QUOTE]Go to Brazil.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3007027]Go to Brazil.[/QUOTE]What city would you recommend? And what places to visit?
Thanks.
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Read the forum
Men, experts like me shouldn't have to repeat my masterful post. Study my greatness before you post. Theres a wealth of knowledge here. Feel free to ask related questions about colombian women. True I am an expert and can you all tremendlously. And for the heartbroken men from gringaland. Bevassured youll do better in this great country.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3007027]Go to Brazil.[/QUOTE]Brother,
Thank you for your reply, but gauging by your one liner reply, it seems that I may have crossed some line somewhere.
Not my intent to offend anyone at all, I am just trying to learn, Brazil is neither safer (just what I have learnt from reading forums and scanning youtube vids) nor as economical as Colombia, hence I checked it off my list already, not to mention Portuguese is much harder to learn (even the basics) compared to Spanish, which I have been working on since last 6 months or so.
It will be very helpful if you could share some tips on how you traverse or get the best out of Bogota or Medellin in Colombia.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers!!
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[QUOTE=Igor54;3007058]What city would you recommend? And what places to visit?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo to start off then branch out from there after getting comfy.
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[QUOTE=ArnoldNe;3007130]Brother,
Thank you for your reply, but gauging by your one liner reply, it seems that I may have crossed some line somewhere.
Not my intent to offend anyone at all, I am just trying to learn, Brazil is neither safer (just what I have learnt from reading forums and scanning youtube vids) nor as economical as Colombia, hence I checked it off my list already, not to mention Portuguese is much harder to learn (even the basics) compared to Spanish, which I have been working on since last 6 months or so.
It will be very helpful if you could share some tips on how you traverse or get the best out of Bogota or Medellin in Colombia.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers!![/QUOTE]This whole forum, with sections on Bogota and Medellin, is just that. Tips on how to get the best out of these places. I doubt that anyone can read your mind as to what sorts of things you might be looking for, and I hope no one tries to summarize everything in the forum. Not many people have that sort of time. My suggestion is that, as you read the posts in the forum, where you have specific sorts of questions first try the search function, and then by all means post questions.
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[QUOTE=ArnoldNe;3007130]Thank you for your reply, but gauging by your one liner reply, it seems that I may have crossed some line somewhere.
Not my intent to offend anyone at all, I am just trying to learn, Brazil is neither safer (just what I have learnt from reading forums and scanning youtube vids) nor as economical as Colombia, hence I checked it off my list already, not to mention Portuguese is much harder to learn (even the basics) compared to Spanish, which I have been working on since last 6 months or so.
It will be very helpful if you could share some tips on how you traverse or get the best out of Bogota or Medellin in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Nope. It is just that you first said you wanted to go to Brazil then came up with several excuses why you should not go where you wanted to go. If I had said go to Bogota, would you still be questioning my response? I did not always speak the languages that I speak and still had fun going to places. Even the places that I go where I still do not speak the language in I still have fun. My cousin and her kids are in Japan right now and don't know how to say Hello, in Japanese. They seem to be having a great time on their facebook pics. I am definitely not going to make excuses for not going somewhere that I really want to go or ask for reasons why I should actually go. I am just going to go and check it out.
You do know that Spain is one of the scamming capitals of the world right? And in Colombia you can easily get drugged and robbed without even taking a girl to your place. Happened to a friend of mine who had been going for years. They left him ass nekkit in the gutter for dead. Luckily had had real friends in the country instead of just knowing prostitutes.
Since you look at youtube you should know there are literally hundreds of stories of foreigners being drugged and robbed in Colombia and there is even a tally of those that have died from it each year. In Brazil you will maybe find 2 stories like that. I remember one last year and another about 18 years ago.
If you did not really want to go to Brazil over the other 2, then you would not have even brought it up in your first post. I can tell you that my first time to Brazil was with my wife on our first anniversary. The morning we got back, I told her that I did not want to be married anymore. I have since lived and worked on my master's in Brazil and would probably still be there if it was not for the Olympics and World Cup fucking things up. I moved to Thailand.
You can compare these 2 sister websites and see that Brazil and Colombia are in the same price range for hookers. I will say a place to stay in Brazil is what will cost you more.
[URL]https://photoacompanhantes.com/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/[/URL]
All information on Bogota and Medellin is already in the respective forums.
P.S. I learned Portuguese before Spanish and will say that neither was any harder to learn than the other. That is like saying Social Studies is harder to learn than Literature. And you are not going to be conversational in 6 months without daily real world practice in either.
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Thank you, that was informative.
I do venture out to check things out, but only after careful research, I prioritize safety over my adventure instinct.
That being said I have visited Prague last year and Indonesia this year (literally used google translate for every conversation), who are very diverse language and culture wise and had great time in both places, you can check out my FRs over there.
When it comes to South America, I am not too sure on the safety aspect and that is the only thing that I want to vet out, other things I can figure out on my own. I have tried to research nearby countries like Argentina, Uruguay, Peru, Bolivia, Mexico, Venezuela etc also for a one time experience in South America but so far none come close in safety aspect as compared to European or Asian countries (where scams may be there but life threatning occurances are rare with tourists).
BTW sorry to hear about your friend, he was lucky to have known people around when he needed them, this is the exact kind of thing that I don't want to run into.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3007160]
If you did not really want to go to Brazil over the other 2, then you would not have even brought it up in your first post. I can tell you that my first time to Brazil was with my wife on our first anniversary. The morning we got back, I told her that I did not want to be married anymore. I have since lived and worked on my master's in Brazil and would probably still be there if it was not for the Olympics and World Cup fucking things up. I moved to Thailand.
You can compare these 2 sister websites and see that Brazil and Colombia are in the same price range for hookers. I will say a place to stay in Brazil is what will cost you more.
[URL]https://photoacompanhantes.com/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/[/URL]
All information on Bogota and Medellin is already in the respective forums.
P.S. I learned Portuguese before Spanish and will say that neither was any harder to learn than the other. That is like saying Social Studies is harder to learn than Literature. And you are not going to be conversational in 6 months without daily real world practice in either.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Zeos1;3007142]This whole forum, with sections on Bogota and Medellin, is just that. Tips on how to get the best out of these places. I doubt that anyone can read your mind as to what sorts of things you might be looking for, and I hope no one tries to summarize everything in the forum. Not many people have that sort of time. My suggestion is that, as you read the posts in the forum, where you have specific sorts of questions first try the search function, and then by all means post questions.[/QUOTE]Apologies if my text was misleading, not looking for holistic summary of things, I have certainly read the forum upto 5 odd pages yesterday, will dive into more if needed but my questions were more from a sense of how to get around safely in Bogota.
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[QUOTE=ArnoldNe;3007212]Apologies if my text was misleading, not looking for holistic summary of things, I have certainly read the forum upto 5 odd pages yesterday, will dive into more if needed but my questions were more from a sense of how to get around safely in Bogota.[/QUOTE]I walk lots when I'm there. Take Uber. Take taxis sometimes. And if I'm there for longer than a day or two I get a card to use the bus system. They have the most elaborate high capacity urban bus system in the world I believe. Safety will depend more on where you are than how you get there. And who you are with. And assume that if you want to use anonymous social media, like Tinder for example, to meet chicas that your chica friend will try to drug you and steal your stuff. Assume that, and if you're wrong, you had a good time on the edge.
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[QUOTE=Zeos1;3007227]I walk lots when I'm there. Take Uber. Take taxis sometimes. And if I'm there for longer than a day or two I get a card to use the bus system. They have the most elaborate high capacity urban bus system in the world I believe. Safety will depend more on where you are than how you get there. And who you are with. And assume that if you want to use anonymous social media, like Tinder for example, to meet chicas that your chica friend will try to drug you and steal your stuff. Assume that, and if you're wrong, you had a good time on the edge.[/QUOTE]Thanks bro that clarifies and helps my decision making, seems like a bleak affair to try and score here, more pitfalls every step of the way.
I am usually a very careful, despite enjoying this hobby for 15+ years, till date I haven't ran into any trouble anywhere, I always prefer going to the establishment (like a Casa, Massage Parlour, Gentlemen's club, or brothel), finishing my deed there and getting out.
Till date I have never even invited any girl to my hotel, except last year in Jakarta, where the girl and I had a good connection, she didn't ask for payment as it was my last night there and she only came to give me company, we kissed and cuddled a bit, had breakfast in the morning and I paid her the night's worth anyways. But this is the only exception that I have made till date.
Colombia from the comments received here and echoes from other parts of the internet seems sketchy as hell, and I will give it a pass for now.
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[QUOTE=Zeos1;3007227]I believe[/QUOTE]It's not in South America. This specific system in Brazil is better partly because they invented it.
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[QUOTE=ArnoldNe;3007209]Thank you, that was informative.
I do venture out to check things out, but only after careful research, I prioritize safety over my adventure instinct.
That being said I have visited Prague last year and Indonesia this year (literally used google translate for every conversation), who are very diverse language and culture wise and had great time in both places, you can check out my FRs over there.
When it comes to South America, I am not too sure on the safety aspect and that is the only thing that I want to vet out, other things I can figure out on my own.[/QUOTE]This kills me. I hear this from Americans scared to go to South America. All the stings in the USA and you have cases like with that French guy DSK who was falsely charged with rape and this NFL punter Matt Araiza who was also not even charged with rape but shamed as a rapist doing the exact same shit everyone here is doing and for some dumb reason, guys in the USA think what happened to these guys cannot happen to them.
What is the most important thing with regards to your safety? Look in the mirror. There is your answer. You are. If you go to the Santa Fe part of Bogota or on the South Side, and you do not keep an eye on your drinks, yeah, you will be drugged and robbed. It is just a matter of time.
Now you get a Colombian escort from a reputed agency who comes to your hotel room, and security as is so often the case, brings her to your room, it is a different matter. The hotel either holds her ID or has a copy of it. Often they will call you when the woman leaves and ask if all is okay. And if you have any brains, you lock up your valuables. And then what? Is she going to hold you up at gun point, and fly down four stories in a parachute like Tom Cruise? And what country has a money back guarantee if a hooker does rip you off or up charges you? The point is I see guys scared shitless going to Colombia when seeing a hooker in Colombia as I described is SAFER than in the USA because of these circumstances and there is way less of a chance of a legal issue.
Brazil is a big country. Rio is a haven for crime because the nicest parts like Copacabana Beach are right next to the slums. In Colombia, I know people who have been drugged or had their phone snatched by a guy on a motorcycle. In Rio, of three guys, I was the only one not mugged, and one of the guys got the shit beat out of him. However, on the island getaway of Florianopolis, I talked to an old timer who rode the bus every day and never had an issue. Sao Paulo is in the middle. We did not have an issue there but you could feel it was not totally safe.
Sao Paulo like Bogota is not the most entertaining city in the world, but there are more 10's per square inch in Sao Paulo than anywhere else in the world, and they have the top brothel in the world there. Sorry globe club lovers. I do not what they teach these Brazilian women but when they give you head, it does not just feel good, they will make you audibly gasp and swear you have seen Jesus himself.
The Colombian woman are not as sexually skilled. In fact, I would say no one else is. Thing about Bogota on the low end is you can fuck a decent looking woman for less than $20 in Santa Fe. Yeah, it is not that nice a neighborhood and you might be fucking on a massage table or a bed made of cardboard but if you can handle that and are willing to risk it, and I have never had a problem in Santa Fe, it is tough to beat that value anywhere in the world.
Most mongers do not care about anything more than getting laid but if you want anything beyond that, the Brazilian women are not as smart or as hard working as Colombian women IMO. They are also much more likely to cheat on you and are wishy washy about committing to much of anything.
When I first went to Colombia, I did not get the fuss. The 10 types in Colombia are hidden away unlike Brazil. The sex was not that special. I was like why do guys keep going on about this place? There was just one incident on my first two trips that stood out to me. We asked this woman, a bank secretary, for directions. She gets up from her desk, and we see that she is a complete fucking knockout, a 10 type for sure. I had not seen anyone who looked like that anywhere we had been in Colombia. She spent five minutes telling us where to go and even drew us a map and was as sweet as could be. This was pre Google maps. I could not believe someone that hot was that nice.
That was a harbinger of things to come for me with Colombian women. The best Colombian women are smart, sweet, upbeat, fun, hardworking women who know how to take care of a man. If you want to get laid, go to Sao Paulo. It is worth the crime risk. If you want to find GF / wife material, go to Bogota.