Angeles City

[QUOTE=DoctorGg;1637954] She promised that as soon as some real man buys her virginity for 50 k pesos, I'll be the second to enjoy. Eventually, it happened later on, some middle aged Japanese man bought without bargain for quoted price what she was selling. She sent 50 k to mama and was bleeding and complaining how painful adult love is.[/QUOTE]I quoted my own speech in order to underscore that someone else bought her V. For 50 K not me. I was the one to wait for her V. 's left over.

[QUOTE=DoctorGg;1638284] So gents, when next time you say that some of my girls are ugly to your liking, kindly post picture of another beauty who you managed to get in bed successfully, so the rest of us can evaluate her beauty level / or level of her ugliness.[/QUOTE]A few senior members mentioned directly or by hint that my ex girls who pictures I have posted recently are not beautiful enough.

Men, don't let your words be so empty, kindly post pics of your way far more beautiful girls so everyone who read this forum can compare their beauty.

[QUOTE=Pantot;1638552]I have been visiting the Phils for 10 years but I have yet to see one picture of any girl I recognize. There is some anonymity in the fact that there are so many girls in the Philippines bar girl or not who are willing to not only have sex with a foreigner at the drop of a hat and for very little investment of time or money but will also will allow you to take a picture of her with your dick in her mouth. I have dozens of pics like that but even if it was just a bar girl I had for 1 night, I couldn't just post it for all the world to see. I sort of fall in love with almost every one of them and it would seem like a betrayal.[/QUOTE]When a lady has chosen the prostitution job, there's no more "anonymity" in her life. When a girl lady is walking at her neighborhood, some pinoy school boys scraems at her back "pok-pok" and if she's not first day in the buisiness, she woudn't get shy or deny that she's pok-pok (a prostitute) course she's used to be called so.

[QUOTE=Pantot;1638552] I sort of fall in love with almost every one of them and it would seem like a betrayal.[/QUOTE]Don't blame yourself for betraying a prostitute, mate. She had betrayed you day before you met her in the bar and kept betraying you at every lucky working day since you left her. And when you sort of in-love, she does't care.

About trophy pictures there's a question to post or not to post.

There're guys who frequent AC or even reside there (here) and there're guys who're only planing visiting AC for the first time and are curious of how real Filipina beauty looks like.

[QUOTE=Amavida;1638665]This is because waving big wads of money around for the 'privilege' of forcing yourself inside an inexperienced (& mostly unwilling) woman is seen as sadistic not sexual.
AV.[/QUOTE]Pay respect to those Filipina boys or Asian and Euro-Asian men, who spend big money, take risks and do this body job for you (us), western men, to let us enjoy affordable open brown working not virgin pussies.

[QUOTE=IronyMonger;1638711]I've seen a total of 3 girls I know here in other people's posts. In all but one case I saw the pic before I met the girls in person. I said nothing to them about ISG or the photos of course.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Amavida;1638719]Seen or went looking for? Hmmm? Come on be honest! LOL! In nearly ten years I've only recognised 2 after the fact. AV.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Streetlooker;1638751]1. In Thailand I had a girl from a Nana plaza bar for 2 nights. While back home a few months later I seen the girl in one of Nasty Nigel Asian Streetmeat videos. 2. Spent 10 days with a AC girl at Clarkton. She currently has a video on you tube from a well known Angeles city video producer Major Grubert. 3. Met a guy in my hometown that has been to the Philippines a few times and we have figured out we banged the same girl from the Mirrors club due to the fact we both stayed at Clarkton on our trips and both have pics of her. The pool is not that big.[/QUOTE]3 of my ex-GFs in AC decided to become porn stars, what can I do when I see a picture of my ex-honey in net? Here's picture from a porn website, I recognized her. A few years ago her name was M. She was from K. , stayed around Robinson place.

It's her choice to be a public woman first and then to be a world-known porn star.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1638647]I too look at the pics everyday, and given that we are all swimming in the same pool, I have long been sure that I would see some of my former "loves". But after 15 years, I've yet to see one of them featured here. The pool just maybe bigger than we think it is.[/QUOTE]Funny you should mention this. On two occations I have seen pics posted of girls I have fucked and on one occation one guy recognized a girl he did (we have for fun veryfied this by pm'ing eachother, giving names etc and it has all been correct). This is from another dedicated phil forum. The most amazing part is that it is the same punter I have "shared" all three with. We obviously have the same taste in women, hunt the same datingsite and have simular MO.

In ISG I have only seen one girl I might have fucked but due to blurred face I can not say 100% sure it was her. But a scar by her knee gives me atleast a 70/80% idea it is her. Not that it matters. It is all good fun.

Freebiefan, if everyone had to post a pic of all the girls theyve fucked then you probably would have ran into some of your former "loves" don't you think? A very small portion of the punters post pics both here or other forums. But we have our regular posters who post many pics of many girls but still a slim chance realy to see some "old friends"..

[QUOTE=Skogis;1639015] to blurred face I can not say 100% sure it was her. But a scar by her knee gives me atleast a 70/80% idea it is her. Not that it matters. It is all good fun.

Freebiefan, if everyone had to post a pic of all the girls theyve fucked then you probably would have ran into some of your former "loves" don't you think? [/QUOTE]Yes yes and yes again. .

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1638686]Actually I believe his comment is supported by fact, whether it's racist is debatable. The desire for "virgins" by East Asians, in particular by older Chinese blokes, is pretty well documented. Something about acquiring magical powers or some other balderdash. Of course a lot of cultures obsess over virginity, but the reasons vary.[/QUOTE]Chinese?

Have you been to Angeles? Are there Chinese there? I doubt I have seen many. What the heck is an East Asian anyway?

The 'oriental' looking male patrons of Angeles are 80 to 90% Korean and 10 to 20% percent Japanese I'm guessing.

I used to have a free lance mamasan who would bring me her 'cousins' and friends in AC. We first met online when she was a cam girl. She brought me 3 or 4 girls over the few years that were former cherry girls who were famously deflowered by some US 'pilot' who would pay I think 30 or 40 K to pop the cherry, she and her sis would witness the act. I paid 1000 or 1500 once the hole was opened.

[QUOTE=DoctorGg;1638822]When a lady has chosen the prostitution job, there's no more "anonymity" in her life. When a girl lady is walking at her neighborhood, some pinoy school boys scraems at her back "pok-pok" and if she's not first day in the buisiness, she woudn't get shy or deny that she's pok-pok (a prostitute) course she's used to be called so.

Don't blame yourself for betraying a prostitute, mate. She had betrayed you day before you met her in the bar and kept betraying you at every lucky working day since you left her. And when you sort of in-love, she does't care[/QUOTE]Most girls in their first few months in AC don't consider themselves to be prostitutes. I never bar fine any that have been there more than six months because their attitude changes. I am not going to apologize for considering the humanity of these girls and respecting their privacy. When they allow me to take nude pics I consider it an act of trust.

I am sure if you informed them that the pics you were taking would be posted on a Angeles specific website they might have a different attitude towards allowing you to photograph. The fact that you also posted pics of the girls family including children shows you consider them to be subhuman, some sort of National geographic study.

Pictures are fine. There is porn everywhere made by people who are making porn. I just think the girls face should be obscured unless she consents to it. Even face in one and body and another is at least a start. There is a reason why you will almost never see the posters face in any of the pics.

I am not going to apologize for treating women I had sex with with dignity.

First one is from Samar. She was only in AC for about 4 months now she's back in Samar and bored. Second one is from Davao never worked in a bar, just a friend of a very interesting lesbian I have gotten to know well. This is what I am talking about. Nobody could pull my dick out of a lineup like anyone else but I am sure not going to post my face.

Thanks to all on the board who have provided great advice to those of us just making it out to AC. I had an incredible time and made a boatload of new, great memories.

Regarding some recent threads on the board and my personal experience:

-Pickpockets: Didn't see any or have any problems.

-Pinays and Chocolate treats: They don't seem to care about chocolates one way or the other.

-Not having to pay for sex: Yes, it does seem like it is easy to pick-up and fuck young women for free in PI / AC. But, given the poverty I saw you'd have to not have a human soul to be a Western man with means and not try to help out a woman who just gave herself to you unless you are Brad Pitt or something.

-Koreans: Yeah. Lots of Korean dudes but they seemed to just do their own thing and not bother anyone. I can see if I am in Atlantis and I pick a model-level shuffler and she runs to the arms of some big spending Korean how that'd be annoying as hell though.

-Hotel quality and BG performance: I stayed at ABC and the women pretended to be impressed and "wanted to come back to my room because they'd never been there" (right) but unless you are sleeping in a car I think the BGs couldn't care less where you stay based on their reactions to the other hotels.

-Changing money: Most places seemed to have roughly the same exchange rate.

Thanks again to the vets for all of their advice. I can't wait to get back there!!

[QUOTE=Pantot;1639189] Most girls in their first few months in AC don't consider themselves to be prostitutes. I never bar fine any that have been there more than six months because their attitude changes.[/QUOTE]Of course the most sweet girls are new arrivals, and last but not least, the most expensive ones as well. In all red light areas around the world newcomers are in great demand but.

When one gal arrives to the sex-marketplace, several experienced bitches would fiercely fight each other for the right to be her first spiritual sister san (kind of mamasan). In most cases they are cousins or fellow province girls, sex-work veterans who have spent years in bars.

A hardcore hookers (whose attitude is tolerated by none of us) will teach a newly joined beauty the rules of rotten sisterhood, morality of rat's barkada. The rules are simple: to fool a gringo, to do for him way less then he wants and to get 130% of what he's ready to spend tonight, to make him temporary poor and problematic. What conclusion? No matter how beautiful and kind she is in our dreams, those moments our brain is in trousers. Pay attention that most girls are texting with someone while working inside our rooms.

If you pretend that you don't understand Tagalog, the most common words of your charming beloved Angel would be: matanda, pangit, praning, tanga, gagu. Etcetra.

While you're enjoying her sweet body, she's being coached by some text mate how to run from you as soon as you finish. Influence of the rat-coach (sister san) over your honey is always stronger than your attractiveness, your personal or financial charm.

Don't be selfish, you are not the only costumer of that new beauty. After one happy short time with her, keep sitting in some Mo's place and drink your beer for a few days)).

Save money and wait for the day when you are scheduled. Don't worry, your sweet heart, your love is not wasting time, she's making money to send it to mama, to lend it to rat's sisterhood common fund. There's always many men who's waiting nationally in line to check sweet pussy of your love. Probably an old block having beer next to you somewhere in Margarita and also some four-eyes Korean boy are waiting for date with the same GRO. So. Be a good boy, man, never betray her.

[QUOTE=Pantot;1639189] When they allow me to take nude pics I consider it an act of trust. I am sure if you informed them that the pics you were taking would be posted on a Angeles specific website they might have a different attitude towards allowing you to photograph. Pictures are fine. There is porn everywhere made by people who are making porn. I just think the girls face should be obscured unless she consents to it. Even face in one and body and another is at least a start. There is a reason why you will almost never see the posters face in any of the pics. [/QUOTE]I've paid my precious bucks for every picture I'm sharing to the world by posting them here.

None of my models let me take those pics free of charge. While somebody invests in beer and reasonably priced pussy, I was investing in fine photo art. All models had sold me copyrights. So it's up to me what to do, to sell it, to dump it here or to keep it only for myself and for offspring forever.

[QUOTE=Pantot;1639189] Most girls in their first few months in AC don't consider themselves to be prostitutes. [/QUOTE]No doubt, that's correct. And also most of newcomer thieves don't consider themselves to be a thief, they never steal, they just take something what they need much more than you do, no matter if it's yours.

[QUOTE=Pantot;1639189] I am not going to apologize for considering the humanity of these girls and respecting their privacy. I am not going to apologize for treating women I had sex with with dignity. [/QUOTE]Nobody ever meant or made a hint on apologizing for personal opinion in contemporary world.

P.S: another masterpiece of an anonymous Filipina beauty. 2014.

[QUOTE=Pantot;1639189]

I am not going to apologize for treating women I had sex with with dignity.[/QUOTE]Well said Pantot! Give that man a cigar!!

AV.

[QUOTE=Pantot;1639206]First one is from Samar. She was only in AC for about 4 months now she's back in Samar and bored. Second one is from Davao never worked in a bar, just a friend of a very interesting lesbian I have gotten to know well. This is what I am talking about. Nobody could pull my dick out of a lineup like anyone else but I am sure not going to post my face.[/QUOTE]Bravo! This man has guts to show us what human kind was created for. Make love, not war.

[QUOTE=Pantot;1639189]Most girls in their first few months in AC don't consider themselves to be prostitutes. I never bar fine any that have been there more than six months because their attitude changes. I am not going to apologize for considering the humanity of these girls and respecting their privacy. When they allow me to take nude pics I consider it an act of trust.

I am not going to apologize for treating women I had sex with with dignity.[/QUOTE]I agree with you that most entry level girls who come to AC do not consider themselves as prostitutes or pay for sex girls etc. While previously they just went with customers without any money being discussed. Barfine was paid directly to the bar and they just get a slip of paper to cash next day. I remember the days when they did their sex job efficiently and never expected any tip in the morning. For them it was like back home spending the night with any guy they knew. They are no strangers as far as sex is concerned. Once barfined nobody really took them barhopping or dinner or shopping etc. It was unwritten rule that they need to satisfy the guy and stay the night. None refused sex demands because they were afraid to get the flak from the bar owners. In AC they considered it as a regular job. However they all knew exactly what they were getting into.

Now the things have evolved in AC business wise. The Mantra is to make money whenever and however possible. Fleece the customers is the norm. Runners are common. Rejection of guys intending to barfine happens all the time. One minute she could be sitting with you having a drink, next minute she is running towards a big spender.

As for posting pics, these days they could not care less. All their families know what they are doing. AC as a sex destination is well known.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1639558] I remember the days when they did their sex job efficiently and never expected any tip in the morning. For them it was like back home spending the night with any guy they knew. They are no strangers as far as sex is concerned. Once barfined nobody really took them barhopping or dinner or shopping etc. It was unwritten rule that they need to satisfy the guy and stay the night. None refused sex demands because they were afraid to get the flak from the bar owners. In AC they considered it as a regular job. However they all knew exactly what they were getting into.[/QUOTE]I can't vouch for the olden days. I have been going to the Phils for 10 years, to AC for about 9 and to the AC bars for about 8. But I will say I much prefer the present situation to what you refer to as the past. Girls being forced to go with any guy who picks them and then for a whole night sounds kinda hellish for the girl. These days its much better working conditions for the girls. I have never seen a mamasan do much beyond mild encouragement to get a reticent girl to go with the guy. Hell I have talked to cherry bar girls, gone back 3 or 4 months later, and they are still cherry girls.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1639558] Runners are common. Rejection of guys intending to barfine happens all the time. One minute she could be sitting with you having a drink, next minute she is running towards a big spender.[/QUOTE]I'd much rather have the girl run if she really doesn't want a round two than stay there in some sort of fear for her job. So it makes the ones who stay the night, have breakfast all the more satisfying because I am sure we both really want it. I can't count the number of guys who can't hold thier liquor or are just plain filthy and disgusting I have seen getting turned down and I really can't blame the girls. Getting fondled in public is something it usually takes filipinas a few weeks to a few months to get used to. Some never do really. Most of the bargirls I got thier numbers and kept in touch are out of the bars under 6 months to a year.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1639558]As for posting pics, these days they could not care less.[/QUOTE]You must be attracted to and barfining an entirely different type of bargirl than I do. Almost all girls are very nervous about having their picture taken even partially clothed. I doubt any I ever barfined would have agreed to me posting the nude and sex ones online.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1639558]All their families know what they are doing. AC as a sex destination is well known.[/QUOTE]Well yes but there is a sense of plausible deniability, for every province girl working in a bar, there is one who is a cam girl, works in a restaurant, street vendor, etc.

[QUOTE=Pantot;1639721]I can't vouch for the olden days. I have been going to the Phils for 10 years, to AC for about 9 and to the AC bars for about 8. But I will say I much prefer the present situation to what you refer to as the past. Girls being forced to go with any guy who picks them and then for a whole night sounds kinda hellish for the girl. These days its much better working conditions for the girls. I have never seen a mamasan do much beyond mild encouragement to get a reticent girl to go with the guy. Hell I have talked to cherry bar girls, gone back 3 or 4 months later, and they are still cherry girls.

I'd much rather have the girl run if she really doesn't want a round two than stay there in some sort of fear for her job. So it makes the ones who stay the night, have breakfast all the more satisfying because I am sure we both really want it. I can't count the number of guys who can't hold thier liquor or are just plain filthy and disgusting I have seen getting turned down and I really can't blame the girls. Getting fondled in public is something it usually takes filipinas a few weeks to a few months to get used to. Some never do really. Most of the bargirls I got thier numbers and kept in touch are out of the bars under 6 months to a year.

You must be attracted to and barfining an entirely different type of bargirl than I do. Almost all girls are very nervous about having their picture taken even partially clothed. I doubt any I ever barfined would have agreed to me posting the nude and sex ones online.

Well yes but there is a sense of plausible deniability, for every province girl working in a bar, there is one who is a cam girl, works in a restaurant, street vendor, etc.[/QUOTE]Same story for my past 2 years. I have had 1 "runner" in the 2 years, she said her poon hurt after one boom boom and left without asking for a tip or trike money.

Seems like the same people keep getting ripped off here and other ones don't.

Halloween night fell on All Saints Day. I was surprised to see hundreds of kids dressed up in costumes tricker treating around Fields to checkpoint terminal especially past 10:30 pm. Each kid holding a grocery size bag. The kids would run up to me as I was walking, too bad I didn't have any candy for them. I found a front row seat at Kokomos and watched the action for a while. Every few minutes a foreigner would walk by with a bag of candy to hand out, they would get mobbed by the kids. The kids would orderly line up, get the treat and go. Never did I see a kid get back in line for seconds!

This kind of tricker treating by kids actually sidelined the vitamin V salesmen and beggars. Literally. As I was walking I reminisce the times I tricker treated as a child. A few years I would ask for donations for UNICEF instead of candy. Not surprisingly I did not see any child here with UNICEF cups. As I thought some more walking, I realized that I have not seen any UNICEF flags or banners or any edvidence of relief work here. Then for any matter, I haven't seen any existence of non-profit relief work here.

I called it a night at 11:00 pm. The Hello, girls were out in force and I didn't feel like bar hopping.

Quite a change on All Souls Day, instead of the crowds the day before, it seemed like a ghost town. Late afternoon I took a walk over to SM Mall and maybe 25% of the normal crowd. Kind of any errire feeling. It was the same walking along Fields later on. The vitamin V salesmen and beggars were out in force tonight to make up for the lost sales night before. They were more aggressive tonight. Maybe because of so few people tonight.

I think majority of the girls were absent for the 2 days. I texted a number of standby girls but received no replies. I guess they all went to the cemeteries. Therefore I have been poonless for 2 days. Good news is standby girls are texting back this morning.

I've been RTFF. Reading this f. Forum and visiting different known sex Mecca's for 10 years and keep meeting in forum posts the same ideas of many mongers.

No matter what particular Mecca is discussed in forum, let it be AC, Pataya, Phnom-Penh or etc. , the conclusion of majority of men is the same: a place got worse, the attitude of girls got worse.

Men, none of us become younger and more attractive physically for the last 10 years (unless you keep going to gym and prefer juice over beer) and none of us deliberately decided to chase girls 10 years older than we were looking for before. In short, we vets are getting older ourselves but still looking for young girls, that's why it's getting harder to be as much successful in our monger hobby as we were 10 years ago.

Those bargirls who entertained us in bed 10 years ago, are now over weighted family women. They no longer sell sex because they are aware that no foreigner would buy it when they are in older age and not so fit.

But none of us who arrived for AC again would look for meeting with a hooker who one barfined 10 years ago. Everyone would look for someone fresh who's just a few months in the bar or so. Yes, we can treat our old lovers as old friends when we meet them. But only as just friends.

For sure, some young and new man who just arrived to AC for the first time this year would find it an amazing place.

Another reason: the deference in economic development between sex-consuming 1-st world and sex-selling Asian 3-Road world is not as large nowadays as it used to be.

So don't let us to expect that we'll be preferred by beautiful girls for only reason that our mostly not really sporty asses are white.

There're more young well-off pinoy and Asian men now than before who we have to compete with in sex market.

P.S: Here's pictures of one AC girl who shared a wonderful night with me almost 10 years ago. Unfortunately, I can't recall her name, in my archive she's mentioned by nickname of "spotty ass".