LOL. Revisionist History run amok!
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2945001]How does any of what you wrote explain how the electoral college favors the elite vs a popular vote in present times LOL?
I am a well traveled individual. I did a 10 week motorcycle trip through Mexico. I saw the most extreme poverty this world has to offer there. The people living in poverty in Mexico would literally walk across mountains and deserts to get into the country club of section 8 housing in the USA. In fact, they do by the thousands everyday. After seeing what I have seen with my eyes in person, no one is ever going to convince me that the USA needs a drastic change to our government and economy. No, not everyone gets a mansion in the USA, but it is currently still the best system we have. I do agree with you though that inequality is increasing in the USA and the middle class is not what it used to be. [B]Not since Obama's 2008 recession and Biden's inflation since he took office.[/b][/QUOTE]Lolol. Good one.
Oh, and while your at it with the astonishing Revisionist History run amok, how about FDR's 1929 Stock Market Crash and Great Depression, Bill Clinton's September 11,2001 Attack, Obama's COVID Pandemic, Carter's violent mob Insurrection War Against America on January 6, 2021 and Trump's 2000 budget surplus?
Lolol.
Not shot and no report of a close call yet.
[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2945452]Trump was not shot. The perp got caught before anything happened, as that's how it's supposed to be. Asking them to be the PreCrime Division is not realistic. First director got fired, deservedly, because they didn't prevent the shooter from firing the shot.
Local report said that the shot that was fired was from the Secret Service. Will wait to see more details from the event.[/QUOTE]Not only was Trump not shot, as of this writing the perp has not even been charged with trying to shoot him. Only for possessing a gun as a convicted Felon and it or another gun having an obliterated serial number.
I have not even heard the FBI (fraudulent and worthy of being defunded according to Trump) or the Secret Service describe what anyone saw as the perp "aiming" a loaded gun in the general direction of Trump. Not yet anyway.
Unless there is a law against hanging out in the shrubbery outside of that golf resort I am not sure they have anything else related to Trump to charge him with. Or a confession, of course.
I am quite sure if it had been a non Trump voter in those shrubs and Biden somewhere on the golf course, the Right would use this incident as a campaign warning that, "See? The Libs are trying to take our guns away"!
And if it has been the Trump kids in those shrubs being shot at by security during one of their waskilly wabbit hunts, there is no doubt they would be suing that team for unprovoked deadly force response this very day.
The Racial Wealth Gap in the United States
So, now I am going to call Elvis out by name. Because everything he writes is from the position of privilege that he received from what he looks like and where his mother dropped him out of his vagina.
He has called me out for pointing out the type of privilege that is given to those that look like him. Trump has the same privilege. And if you look like Trump. Don't hate. Because I don't hate you. I am just calling it the way I see it. I don't look like Trump. I don't have his privilege. What I have I earned I earned in the face of withering discrimination. Mother fuckers want to call me a victim and say I have a victim mentality. Nothing could be further from the truth. I did not let any of those mother fuckers kidnap my happiness and success. In fact I represent strength and resilience in the face of overwhelming odd due to my sheer determination to get mine!
Fuck a racist, bigot or someone who just engages in blind neglect by looking the other way. I was not going to let those mother fuckers push me into the American Nightmare. I fucking wanted my [I]pursuit of happiness[/I] just a much at the other mother fuckers who did look like me.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2940203][b]The United States of America was a Plutocracy from the get. [/b].
Started by a bunch of rich white land owning males who got tired of paying tribute to a man across the ocean who right to rule was derived by the girl who pushed him out of her pussy.
I'm sure the meeting went something like this:
Hey that mother fucker over there want some more money. Nah, fuck that mother fucker. I'm over here, putting my slaves to work, making moves, stacking my flow and that mother fucker wants a bigger cut. Fuck that shit! What that mother fucker do to earn. He didn't buy these slaves. He does not get up every morning early and whip that ass so they produce. No, I am doing all of that mother fucking shit. Fuck him. Who's with me? Give me that mother fucking pen. I am signing that shit![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Goatscrot;2944590]The electoral college is still there because it serves the wealthy elite. America was designed to have a government that served the wealthy elite. With the possible exception of a few decades in the 1900's it is done exactly that. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=EihTooms;2583093]The Electoral College system gave slave-owning land barons effective veto power over whoever the general American electorate, among them "Negroes" who had at least a 3/5th say in the matter minus inevitable voter supression shenanigans, chose as president.[/QUOTE]This is a video that gives overview and insight to my position. Don't you throw up Harris in my face. She is not President Obama. Obama won elections to the Federal Government, primaries that lead to his becoming a Presidential candidate and he won the general election. Harris has done none of this.
[URL]https://youtu.be/zz6QX_fiMqk?si=SkkgNf2uuUXPPwKo[/URL]
If after watching this video mother fuckers want to argue with me about privilege as it is DESIGNED in the United States of America can meet me in person in [I]Pattaya, Thailand[/I] at the [B]Bus Bar[/B]. I got the first round.
Don't be throwing up that weak shit about not wanting to meet me. I know what that is about. [B]FEAR! [/B] You prefer to stay behind the safety of your computer screen and bang on your keyboard to meeting another man face to face. Why? Because that requires for you to have you big boy pants on instead of you American Flag short skirt and your red white and blue pom poms.
[B]Black Panther' Director Ryan Coogler Was Mistaken for a Bank Robber[/B]
[URL]https://variety.com/2022/film/global/black-panther-ryan-coogler-bank-robber-1235199800/[/URL]#.
[B]The nation's largest credit union rejected more than half its Black conventional mortgage applicants[/B]
[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/14/business/navy-federal-credit-union-black-applicants-invs/index.html[/URL]
[B]Predatory Lending's Prey of Color[/B]
[URL]https://prospect.org/economy/2023-06-05-predatory-lendings-prey-of-color/[/URL]#text=Black%20 and%20 Latino%20 borrowers%20 are, for%20 dealing%20 with%20 structural%20 poverty. &text=This%20 article%20 appears%20 in%20 the, of%20 The%20 American%20 Prospect%20 magazine.
There are those who want to call my views [I]biased[/I] but I back my views up with facts. So what they are really doing is projecting. And they need to look in the mirror and check themselves.
The Election of Harris or Trump will change nothing for the people outside of the 1%. [B]Only if they adopt Bitcoin (BTC) will they have a chance during the seismic shift of change in the financial world that is currently underway. [/B].
Yes, let's do an assessment
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2945472]No one with a firearm is ever allowed to get within shooting range of a President, former Pres. , etc. Accountability needs to be upheld.
This is bizarre.
Too much unnecessary hate for Trump. He's an asshole at times, but he and the people he represents don't deserve this.[/QUOTE]Trump was never in shooting range according to reports. The secret service surveyed one or two holes ahead of where Trump was playing, when they saw the rifle, they fired shots at the shooter, he fled, and they were successful in arresting him with nobody hurt. Reported, according to his cell phone location, that he waited there for about 12 hours, so over night. That's what been reported so far.
There is no room POLITICAL VIOLENCE! No one deserves to be plotted and shot at, no disagreement here.
I thought you don't do personal attack.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2945496]Two months mother fucker! [B]Thats why Checkmate?[/B].
The current acting director has been in charge the agency for two months. You think the current acting director has changed a government agency in 2 months? If you do then you have never worked in a large government or corporate entity. You talk like a low level wage slave.
The Director of the Secret Service has no line responsibilities. The very nature of the position is keep an eye on policy and the big picture. The first assassination attempt was a failure of the line. Period. [B]Full Stop[/B].
So get the fuck out of here with your bullshit fantasy talk. Did you watch the hearings in front of Congress? They had decided that they wanted the Director out. The former Director knew it and played along with the Republican mother fuckers wanted to put her on display so they could have their 15 minutes of fame on national TV. The former director collected her pension as she went out the door. [B]Holla[/B]. Politics in Washington the. See at its best or worst depending upon your perspective.
[B]Your post is naive at best, ignorant at worst.[/B][/QUOTE]"You talk like a low level wage slave. ".
While the director has no line responsibilities, she was in charge and resigned due to public pressure, not Congress. Congress has some sway, but any administration assesses how politics play out and whether or not to stand by their people. When it is bad optics, they fire (resigned) whoever is too hot.
Example: Alejandro Mayorkas is still Homeland Security Secretary even after impeachment vote.
I agree with you that the "hearings" are nothing more than dog and pony shows.
The Secret Service needs more help
That is the headline:
[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/16/politics/secret-service-trump-second-assassination-attempt/index.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2945452]Asking them to be the PreCrime Division is not realistic.[/QUOTE]Yet that is EXACTLY what they are asking them to be.
[I]questions are again swirling about how another gunman was able to get within several hundred yards of the former president, especially given the outing was not a publicly announced event.[/I]
[B]You do realize that there were three US Presidents that were assassinated before the United States Secret Service was even assigned to protect the President[/B]
It is not like the people of the United States of America take this shit very seriously. All you have to do is look at the budget of the United States Secret Service and compare it to the law enforcement budgets of other agencies with less critical functions to figure it out.
I have a friend who worked for the United States Secret Service. All of the employees of that agency put in insane hours because they are constantly short on personnel. The also spend crazy hours traveling all over the country and the world for their assignments. Yes, they get paid well. But there is simply NOT enough of them!. Period. [B]Full Stop![/B].
[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2945685]While the director has no line responsibilities, she was in charge and resigned due to public pressure, not Congress. Congress has some sway, but any administration assesses how politics play out and whether or not to stand by their people. When it is bad optics, they fire (resigned) whoever is too hot.[/QUOTE]Agreed. But it does not mean that the Director of the United States Secret Service was [I]responsible[/I] for the failure of the line employees of the day of the first assignation attempt on President Trump. Like you said she was [I]in charge[/I]. Every Captain on a ship in the United States Navy knows they have bottom line accountability. The Captain standing on the Bridge is accountable but an error in the engine room is not ultimately his responsibility. Yet, if there is one he will be held accountable. This was the difference I was trying to point out.
[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2945685]I agree with you that the "hearings" are nothing more than dog and pony shows.[/QUOTE]Respect.
[U]About Personal Attacks[/U]
[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2945685]"You talk like a low level wage slave. .[/QUOTE]If you need an apology because you feel I am being disrespectful of your position as a [B]low level wage slave[/B] please note that was not my intention. I call it the way I see it. If you are not a [B]low level wage slave[/B]. But, in my opinion, your views do not take into account the big picture thinking it takes to run an agency.
Apologies, your job (part time) is to talk shit to me here in the [B]American Politics[/B] Thread on ISG.
Disagreements are welcomed, just not ones rooted in BS...
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2945487]Democrats are so weird. Anyone who disagrees with them is going down a rabbit hole LOL and is suffering from delusions of reality haha. It's just so fucking bizarre at this point all you can do is laugh.
Next line will be about how I don't understand my country because of post-neo-liberalism-socialist-apartheid history of the Haitian modern Revolution of 1846. And if you ask someone to explain that they will call you looney tunes and a historical revisionist LOL.[/QUOTE]
What is funny, is that you think your [i][b]"disagreements"[/b][/i] and [i][b]"opinions"[/b][/i] are ROOTED in FACT! Many of them are NOT!
Look, I respect and welcome disagreements and counterpoints, to my arguments, especially when rooted in facts. What I don't respect is [i][b]so called "debaters"[/b][/i], time and time again, NOT BEING ABLE to substantiate their [i][b]"disagreements"[/b][/i], with anything rooted in facts, truth based evidence or sources that are far more versed, in said subject matters. Otherwise, respectfully...it just looks like your pulling "facts" outta thin air.
And since we all know, you are either too lazy or unwilling (since you've told us as much), to provide any source material, data, info or facts, all necessary tools (at times) for substantiating one's [i][b]"disagreements"[/b][/i] or counterpoints, while engaging in a debate, one can only come to the conclusion, [u]you are NOT here to debate[/u] and that you're only here to spread disinformation and misinformation.
If you haven't realized it by now, if you, [i][b]"just say anything"[/b][/i], just spread disinformation/misinformation and just lie, like Trump and JD Vance, you end up with swatting, death threats, stochastic terrorism and racist violence, spread against the innocent and vulnerable children, hospitalized, elderly and hard working migrants and people of Springfield, Ohio, caught up in a unprovoked race-war, that Trump/Vance wants to embroil American in, as a guise to avoid jail.
Oh yes, as Trump and Vance, spread their vicious lies and disinformation, they'll try to [b]"race-bait"[/b] this election, into something it is NOT. Because just like the presidential debate he lost, there are no other issues he's winning with. So why not divide America with hate, bait our opponents into a race-war and [i][b]play the "race card", for the win.[/b][/i]
Now you may have gone to Trump University and studied, Trump Logic and Speech/Talk 101, where you learn how to [i][b]"just say anything..."[/b][/i] and 'et voilą! [i][b]"...people just believe you!"[/b][/i], since many here are not your fellow Trumpsters and do require your so called "disagreements" to be ROOTED in something other than FICTION, DISINFORMATION and LIES, before going down your "rabbit hole".
Well I'm nobody's fool, so your attempts at using Trump's "Jedi mind trick", of [i]"...just tell them and they'll believe you",[/i] is perhaps best suited and left to your fellow gullible Trumpsters.
Vile affirmative action at its worse
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2945616]So, now I am going to call Elvis out by name. Because everything he writes is from the position of privilege that he received from what he looks like and where his mother dropped him out of his vagina.
He has called me out for pointing out the type of privilege that is given to those that look like him. Trump has the same privilege. And if you look like Trump. Don't hate. Because I don't hate you. I am just calling it the way I see it. I don't look like Trump. I don't have his privilege. What I have I earned I earned in the face of withering discrimination. Mother fuckers want to call me a victim and say I have a victim mentality. Nothing could be further from the truth. I did not let any of those mother fuckers kidnap my happiness and success. In fact I represent strength and resilience in the face of overwhelming odd due to my sheer determination to get mine!
Fuck a racist, bigot or someone who just engages in blind neglect by looking the other way. I was not going to let those mother fuckers push me into the American Nightmare. I fucking wanted my [I]pursuit of happiness[/I] just a much at the other mother fuckers who did look like me.
This is a video that gives overview and insight to my position. Don't you throw up Harris in my face. She is not President Obama. Obama won elections to the Federal Government, primaries that lead to his becoming a Presidential candidate and he won the general election. Harris has done none of this.
[URL]https://youtu.be/zz6QX_fiMqk?si=SkkgNf2uuUXPPwKo[/URL]
If after watching this video mother fuckers want to argue with me about privilege as it is DESIGNED in the United States of America can meet me in person in [I]Pattaya, Thailand[/I] at the [B]Bus Bar[/B]. I got the first round.
Don't be throwing up that weak shit about not wanting to meet me. I know what that is about. [B]FEAR! [/B] You prefer to stay behind the safety of your computer screen and bang on your keyboard to meeting another man face to face. Why? Because that requires for you to have you big boy pants on instead of you American Flag short skirt and your red white and blue pom poms.
[B]Black Panther' Director Ryan Coogler Was Mistaken for a Bank Robber[/B]
[URL]https://variety.com/2022/film/global/black-panther-ryan-coogler-bank-robber-1235199800/[/URL]#.
[B]The nation's largest credit union rejected more than half its Black conventional mortgage applicants[/B]
[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/14/business/navy-federal-credit-union-black-applicants-invs/index.html[/URL]
[B]Predatory Lending's Prey of Color[/B]
[URL]https://prospect.org/economy/2023-06-05-predatory-lendings-prey-of-color/[/URL]#text=Black%20 and%20 Latino%20 borrowers%20 are, for%20 dealing%20 with%20 structural%20 poverty. &text=This%20 article%20 appears%20 in%20 the, of%20 The%20 American%20 Prospect%20 magazine.
There are those who want to call my views [I]biased[/I] but I back my views up with facts. So what they are really doing is projecting. And they need to look in the mirror and check themselves.
The Election of Harris or Trump will change nothing for the people outside of the 1%. [B]Only if they adopt Bitcoin (BTC) will they have a chance during the seismic shift of change in the financial world that is currently underway. [/B].[/QUOTE]In 2008 Wm "Bubba" Clinton and his hideous husband won more delegates during the primaries and yet the nomination was handed to that dude from Nairobi or Jakarta.
In 2020 Harris the anchor baby won Zero primary delegates and dropped out and was handed VP.
In 2024 Harris the anchor baby won Zero delegates again and was handed the nomination for POTUS.
Please tell us more how you earned everything you have.
How about real men have a real motherfucking conversation about this shit
I will say they fucked Harvey Deep up the ass.
They railroaded Bill Cosby.
They railroaded are Kelly.
This dude has been waiting in the on deck circle.
Before they arrested Harvey I said if he had a half an oz of brains he would get on his pvt jet and JET.
I've been saying the same thing about this sorry sack.
[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2024/09/17/sean-diddy-combs-denied-bail-pleads-not-guilty-to-sex-trafficking-racketeering/[/URL]
I would love it if we could have an apolitical discussion about this metoo bullshit without censoring.
