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[QUOTE=Hobbying;2749973]300 reais before 7 pm all it can be used for consuming food or drinks. 500 after 7 pm 300 for consumption. They want to filter the quality of the clients and girls. Add room 220 an hour and girl you will be dropping around 2000 so don't be shell shocked.[/QUOTE]Scandallo really needs to filter out low quality girls. Here are some tips that might help newbies avoid scammers. Note that even very experienced guys like SocratesNY and someone else whose session was cut short to 40 minutes, still couldn't escape scammers. So these tips only help to avoid the obvious scammers that I stupidly fell and paid for.

1. Girls who rush you to go upstairs.

2. Girls who say they are only there for today only and will go somewhere far away for a long period of time, so this is your only chance to be with her.

3. Girls who offer discount for the 2nd session while you are still negotiating the very first session with her.

4. Girls who don't give out phone number or only give out phone number after going upstairs.

5. Girls who ask for a drink after you barely started talking to her.

6. Girls who can't remember basic things about you that you've already told her.

7. Girls who can't keep their story straight.

8. Girls who give you the perfect answers for every question, painting themselves as some selective high class fresh meat and you meet their definition of a gentleman so that's why they're talking to you. But if you keep up with the questions, their stories will start falling apart (see number 7 above).

9. Girls who are the pros. This is a hard one, but you can tell by the way they conduct themselves. They are efficient in what they do, they know where to go when to go where to stand, what to order, how to eat.

Other observations:

Most of them will say they are new and you would be her first client for the day even if you saw her going upstairs with 2 guys earlier.

Unless you have no accent, you will be treated as a gringo and will be quoted gringo prices which are usually 1000 for 1 hour and 2000 for overnight. I think the going rates as of last week for the 7's to 9's was 600-800 an hour and 1200-1500 overnight.

Don't give them the benefit of the doubt, whatever vibe you get from them while talking in the club doesn't get any better in the room.

You should explicitly let them know what you want.

Some of them might stalk you.

I wonder hows the quality and quantity of Scandallo now with the new prices.

[QUOTE=Hobbying;2750416]Read my previous posts.

Since last month girls have to pay 300 to enter add on their Uber, bag storage, food that's 400 R. A girl will not go for 400-500 anymore unless she was there last night and does not have to pay 300. There are maybe 50 girls that are full timers there so they do not pay the 300. But the majority are there some days because they have other things going on like school or another job. 500 entrance plus addition consumption above 300 add on 800-1000 girl 250 room it's around to 2000.[/QUOTE]

#5 is the most annoying one in this whole list!

I just reply with a big fat NOPE!

Also another one is when you're sitting there eating and want peace and quiet and some random girl (especially the ones you don't want) comes up to you and starts talking and invite herself to your table.

[QUOTE=NiceFirst;2750450]Scandallo really needs to filter out low quality girls. Here are some tips that might help newbies avoid scammers. Note that even very experienced guys like SocratesNY and someone else whose session was cut short to 40 minutes, still couldn't escape scammers. So these tips only help to avoid the obvious scammers that I stupidly fell and paid for.

1. Girls who rush you to go upstairs.

2. Girls who say they are only there for today only and will go somewhere far away for a long period of time, so this is your only chance to be with her.

3. Girls who offer discount for the 2nd session while you are still negotiating the very first session with her.

4. Girls who don't give out phone number or only give out phone number after going upstairs.

5. Girls who ask for a drink after you barely started talking to her.

6. Girls who can't remember basic things about you that you've already told her.

7. Girls who can't keep their story straight.

8. Girls who give you the perfect answers for every question, painting themselves as some selective high class fresh meat and you meet their definition of a gentleman so that's why they're talking to you. But if you keep up with the questions, their stories will start falling apart (see number 7 above).

9. Girls who are the pros. This is a hard one, but you can tell by the way they conduct themselves. They are efficient in what they do, they know where to go when to go where to stand, what to order, how to eat.

Other observations:

Most of them will say they are new and you would be her first client for the day even if you saw her going upstairs with 2 guys earlier.

Unless you have no accent, you will be treated as a gringo and will be quoted gringo prices which are usually 1000 for 1 hour and 2000 for overnight. I think the going rates as of last week for the 7's to 9's was 600-800 an hour and 1200-1500 overnight.

Don't give them the benefit of the doubt, whatever vibe you get from them while talking in the club doesn't get any better in the room.

You should explicitly let them know what you want.

Some of them might stalk you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hobbying;2750416]Read my previous posts.

Since last month girls have to pay 300 to enter add on their Uber, bag storage, food that's 400 R. A girl will not go for 400-500 anymore unless she was there last night and does not have to pay 300. There are maybe 50 girls that are full timers there so they do not pay the 300. But the majority are there some days because they have other things going on like school or another job. 500 entrance plus addition consumption above 300 add on 800-1000 girl 250 room it's around to 2000.[/QUOTE]I'm wondering why nobody uses Seeking / Tinder / Instagram (I haven't seen any reports) I'm sure some Scandallo girls have online presence and could be had for much lower rates if met outside of Scandallo. 2000 reals including all the fees, sounds about right. It sucks to pay that much, almost 400 USD for 1 HR of service or 1 pop. I don't count the time you spend at the club eating, drinking, etc because the ultimate goal for most of us is to fuck, not just hang out at the bar and go back to a hotel with blue balls. For me personally, 1 hour in the room is nothing, and I hate to be in a rush. Booking a girls for multiple hours would be super expensive, doesn't make any sense. Taking her out without a prior test drive could be a disaster, and also, quite expensive too. Guys need to take into account other costs. Flights, hotel, etc. Everything adds up quickly. I have said it before, if one wants a quickie with a relatively hot girl, one should visit clinicas, as they are much better value. For overnight GFE dates I would rather meet someone off Seeking or Tinder. Scandallo is a good place to just chill / drink with fellow mongers and check out the talent, collect phone numbers.

[QUOTE=NiceFirst;2750450]Scandallo really needs to filter out low quality girls. Here are some tips that might help newbies avoid scammers. Note that even very experienced guys like SocratesNY and someone else whose session was cut short to 40 minutes, still couldn't escape scammers. So these tips only help to avoid the obvious scammers that I stupidly fell and paid for.

1. Girls who rush you to go upstairs.

2. Girls who say they are only there for today only and will go somewhere far away for a long period of time, so this is your only chance to be with her.

3. Girls who offer discount for the 2nd session while you are still negotiating the very first session with her.

4. Girls who don't give out phone number or only give out phone number after going upstairs.

5. Girls who ask for a drink after you barely started talking to her.

6. Girls who can't remember basic things about you that you've already told her.

7. Girls who can't keep their story straight..[/QUOTE]I had a girl duo approach me in the nightclub one time while I was sitting there having a drink. After talking and getting to know each other for a few minutes, I couldn't believe they both asked me for a tip just for talking to me! Of course I told them no. Then they're going to act like they're surprised! GTFOH! That was the worst interaction I've ever had at Scandallo. Well, there was the time I was sitting at the bar and there were like three girls near me, and one of them cut a silent but deadly fart and stunk up the place! LOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2750745]I'm wondering why nobody uses Seeking / Tinder / Instagram (I haven't seen any reports) I'm sure some Scandallo girls have online presence and could be had for much lower rates if met outside of Scandallo. 2000 reals including all the fees, sounds about right. It sucks to pay that much, almost 400 USD for 1 HR of service or 1 pop. I don't count the time you spend at the club eating, drinking, etc because the ultimate goal for most of us is to fuck, not just hang out at the bar and go back to a hotel with blue balls. For me personally, 1 hour in the room is nothing, and I hate to be in a rush. Booking a girls for multiple hours would be super expensive, doesn't make any sense. Taking her out without a prior test drive could be a disaster, and also, quite expensive too. Guys need to take into account other costs. Flights, hotel, etc. Everything adds up quickly. I have said it before, if one wants a quickie with a relatively hot girl, one should visit clinicas, as they are much better value. For overnight GFE dates I would rather meet someone off Seeking or Tinder. Scandallo is a good place to just chill / drink with fellow mongers and check out the talent, collect phone numbers.[/QUOTE]2000 is overnight and not one hour upstairs and this can be negotiated down to somewhere between 12-1500. I prefer to do this instead of the 1 HR sessions. I enjoy spending time with the girls and having a few drinks.

NiceFirst well put. I usually avoid the girls who are super aggressive when they barely meet you, be it physical or verbal, I just avoid them. If a girl asks for a drink right away, I say no thanks. Not interested. There are girls who are just so stupid (can't explain it any other way) they keep saying the same thing and have nothing else to say and then comes the long uncomfortable silence that forces them to walk away.

This is part of the experience at Scandello. The possibility to filter out hot women and pick exactly or almost exactly something that fits your needs.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2750745]I'm wondering why nobody uses Seeking / Tinder / Instagram (I haven't seen any reports) I'm sure some Scandallo girls have online presence and could be had for much lower rates if met outside of Scandallo. 2000 reals including all the fees, sounds about right. It sucks to pay that much, almost 400 USD for 1 HR of service or 1 pop. I don't count the time you spend at the club eating, drinking...[/QUOTE]I met a girl at Scandallo during my last trip who claims to be a fashion model and she has a sizeable following on IG. I doubt I would get her attention if I contact her on IG. I wondered if her followers know her face is completely different in person. I took her upstairs and we went over the one hour limit, and there is no knock on the door. She does not charge me for the extra time. I just paid the extra hotel room time to Scandello. But I was stupid to tip her, and that increases my cost subsequently because I saw her quite a few times later in my place, and there was never a one hour limit.

Another repeat I met at the same time used to be on Seeking but not anymore. She also came to my place several times without one hour limit.

Hotter girls have the advantage online but Scandallo tips the scale to my favor. I think it would take me hours or days on Seeking to do what I can accomplish in a few minutes in Scandallo.

There were other times when the girl and I went to love motel that we pratically stayed ntil the Sun came out. Same price without 1 hour limit. I don't really do overnight as most of the times I just want to be alone but these just happened.

You are very good at Seeking but it takes time to get to where you are. I have been on Seeking multiple years too and I had two long term SB arrangements. LOL.

I also had trips where I fucked 1 to 2 girls from boates every day and maybe up to 10 girls in one week, as many of the guys here. My "leaving las Vegas" times, I call it. It was great of course.

When you eat lots of incredible dishes, you end up losing the real taste of great food. The same happens fucking cute women 365/24/7. There is the moment where you get bored of squendello girls, as I read from other ISGers.

If you want to taste flesh for the gods, like those influencers from instagram and TikTok that will never ever reply a DM, you must have lots of patiente. Fuck 1 or 2 of such goddesses in a year (you fuck pros during the rest of the year of course, we're not monks).

Being in the after party of fashion runways isn't hard, but you must be there and TALK to make the proposal and talk to agents (agent is simply a higher class of pimp) only to find that the model was in the runway with no payment at all, or maybe she was paid with clothes and make up. Girls love lights and stages. Of course you won't tell the agent "hey man, I want to fuck your model, how much for a whole day" he will kick your ass, no doubt. In Argentina you can say that directly to some agents, indeed. Instead, you can say something that will be of her interest "My client needs a model for his travel cases catalog bla bla bla" then you book the model and you take the crew to a lovely beach, hundreds of kilometers from town, including make up, wardrobe, etc. Of course, before all this, you must have information from contacts that the model gives after hour services for trips, or things classy girls like.

Sure, that will cost like 2-3 crazy squendello night outs, but you'll have the most incredible influencer with 100 K followers, nude licking your balls. Pink flesh only for the few.

Do you like solid 10's? Well, I do. I crown my dick with such flesh from time to time. And from time to time is good, so I don't lose the taste of great food.

You must have a ton of patient only. But the planning is a mouth watering experience of course.

Note: Talent in pics not Brazilian, south american.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2750745]I'm wondering why nobody uses Seeking / Tinder / Instagram (I haven't seen any reports) .[/QUOTE]

Planning on going to Sao Paulo towards the end of January for two weeks but the prices of flights from the UK are crazy at the minute.

Last time I went to Rio it was around £500 but cheapest to Sao Paulo or Rio during this time is £800 plus. I went to Rio in March last time so not sure how much difference that makes.

I know flight prices are up in general bit they aren't up that much to other countries.

[QUOTE=Fewdie;2750635]I wonder hows the quality and quantity of Scandallo now with the new prices.[/QUOTE]Obviously there are alot of gringos there taking advantage of the exchange. Others will head to other clubs.

I was there last week and this week and noticed it was less crowded, walking through the night club section at night was easy and not super crowded.

Two things will happen, there will be more full timers so they avoid the 300 fee and freelance hot ones that know they will have no issues getting clients if they need to pay 300. And that is what I saw this week. I sampled 3 girls that were their first time there (they don't pay 300 their first time there), 2 did not know their value so they accepted 600, other one was a solid 10 and wanted 1000 which I gladly paid to test drive, felt like driving a Ferrari.

Brasil / Sao Paulo is the largest economy in Latin America, there will always be rich locals or visitors willing to splurge.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2750745]I'm wondering why nobody uses Seeking / Tinder / Instagram (I haven't seen any reports) I'm sure some Scandallo girls have online presence and could be had for much lower rates if met outside of Scandallo. 2000 reals including all the fees, sounds about right. It sucks to pay that much, almost 400 USD for 1 HR of service or 1 pop. I don't count the time you spend at the club eating, drinking, etc because the ultimate goal for most of us is to fuck, not just hang out at the bar and go back to a hotel with blue balls. For me personally, 1 hour in the room is nothing, and I hate to be in a rush. Booking a girls for multiple hours would be super expensive, doesn't make any sense. Taking her out without a prior test drive could be a disaster, and also, quite expensive too. Guys need to take into account other costs. Flights, hotel, etc. Everything adds up quickly. I have said it before, if one wants a quickie with a relatively hot girl, one should visit clinicas, as they are much better value. For overnight GFE dates I would rather meet someone off Seeking or Tinder. Scandallo is a good place to just chill / drink with fellow mongers and check out the talent, collect phone numbers.[/QUOTE]I would include the sight seeing as the price of admissions, like going to the strip club. SA / Tinder / IG is not a guarantee fuck and requires some ability to communicate in Porto and the rip off factor is much larger risk. Plus I hate the photo vs in person surprise. In the club gives you some security the girl will not rip you off. If the girl really likes you then the rate is secondary to her, many times I took girls out without an agreed price and they told me they will accept whatever present I give them. That way you are guaranteed good service and she will not bounce, pay for performance setup.

[QUOTE=Hobbying;2751161]I would include the sight seeing as the price of admissions, like going to the strip club. SA / Tinder / IG is not a guarantee fuck and requires some ability to communicate in Porto and the rip off factor is much larger risk. Plus I hate the photo vs in person surprise. In the club gives you some security the girl will not rip you off. If the girl really likes you then the rate is secondary to her, many times I took girls out without an agreed price and they told me they will accept whatever present I give them. That way you are guaranteed good service and she will not bounce, pay for performance setup.[/QUOTE]Sure, SA / Tinder require some time and effort, but sex is pretty much guaranteed, if you discuss what you want upfront. Unless she doesn't show up or she looks completely different in person (this is why you need to request as many photos or videos as possible, or set up a FaceTime call). In the last 2-3 years I probably had only 3 dates that did not end up having sex. If one has only a few days to spend in SP, or doesn't travel there often, boates and clinicas make much more sense. But for someone traveling there frequently or staying for extended periods of time, SA provides much better value, and better service, especially if you enjoy BBFS. I think 1000 reals is more than enough for pernoite, 500-700 to a girl, and 200-300 for dinner / drinks. And if you are an early bird or have to work in the mornings, SA dates would probably fit your schedule better because you don't have to hunt until very late or wait for a bargain price at 4:30 am. My dates usually start around 7-8 pm, 2-3 hrs dinner, then back to my place, 2-3 hrs of fun and off to sleep. 1 pop in the morning and she is good to go. But I understand we all roll differently.

[QUOTE=Hobbying;2751161]I would include the sight seeing as the price of admissions, like going to the strip club. SA / Tinder / IG is not a guarantee fuck and requires some ability to communicate in Porto and the rip off factor is much larger risk. Plus I hate the photo vs in person surprise. In the club gives you some security the girl will not rip you off. If the girl really likes you then the rate is secondary to her, many times I took girls out without an agreed price and they told me they will accept whatever present I give them. That way you are guaranteed good service and she will not bounce, pay for performance setup.[/QUOTE]Nothing says you can't mix the two. I am with MiamiBoy on the SA experience being more fulfilling. You can end up with a real semi long term thing that goes beyond just sex but is NSA. I've got a few girls that I've had 6 mo + "access" to once we establish that first date or two chemistry. That said I love the clubs too.

But you can mix and match! Had an SA date in Madrid at 6 PM (turned out to be meh) and hit Vive (like a small Scandallo) at 11. Best of both worlds. No need to choose.

I noticed there are a few Scandallo girls on SA.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2751218]Nothing says you can't mix the two. I am with MiamiBoy on the SA experience being more fulfilling. You can end up with a real semi long term thing that goes beyond just sex but is NSA. I've got a few girls that I've had 6 mo + "access" to once we establish that first date or two chemistry. That said I love the clubs too.

But you can mix and match! Had an SA date in Madrid at 6 PM (turned out to be meh) and hit Vive (like a small Scandallo) at 11. Best of both worlds. No need to choose.[/QUOTE]

Anyone know Bernard's contact info, can you please pm me?

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