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I also do not give them too many definite answers. See when the chick told him we are not going to fuck we are just going to talk or whatever, he said ok. I would never agree to something like that. I would respond with one of my favorite things to say: We'll see. There is no way I would ever take fucking off the table. Funny thing about women is that they feel free not fucking when you are spending your money. Women like to fuck just as much as men but they don't want to let on to it. Had she paid her own way there I guarantee you she would not have left that place without getting some dick.[/QUOTE]Damn Mr E. It could not have been spelled out any better. My basic premise is women desire sex more than men and are freakier than men.

If I like her and she likes me. Then we should be fucking! As long as it falls inside my core principles. IE. Not my buddies chick, not if your pussy is sick (std's). Etc. Just about anything else it should be on. And if not then she is putting on a show. And chicks don't put on shows unless they want to sell you some BS (idea of themselves being 100% wholesome and different) or to be paid (in cash).

My thoughts are as long as they are still excitedly and voluntarily standing in a long cue of other chicks to suck dick AND eat pussy behind the curtain onstage or off stage and breaking into hotels and locating undisclosed rooms of people they have never met but want to fuck and etc..., then this will remain true.

[QUOTE=Sawassdee;2495029]............ My basic premise is women desire sex more than men..............[/QUOTE]I heard that on the planet Epsilon Reticuli b that is the case but on Earth it is different.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2495019]Don't kiss up to them. Just turn shit around and make it to your advantage.

I also do not give them too many definite answers. See when the chick told him we are not going to fuck we are just going to talk or whatever, he said ok. I would never agree to something like that. I would respond with one of my favorite things to say: We'll see. Had she paid her own way there I guarantee you she would not have left that place without getting some dick.[/QUOTE]Yes my ghost face friend; you are speaking from experience. As olski said experience is the best teacher. But I got to give it to my man, he was learning from his mistakes fast. I was a little more hardheaded.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2495053]I heard that on the planet Epsilon Reticuli b that is the case but on Earth it is different.[/QUOTE]On Earth sex is the is the other half of the second Dynamic. 1st is self survival (eating, avoiding danger etc.) 2nd is procreation which requires sex. I don't see them avoiding sex. I see it as desiring and having sex freely as well as in addition to using sex to aid in there addressing the 1st Dynamic when it fits them.

I came to that understanding at 19 when the older fellas taught me that cougars (ages 33 and up at that time) were a young mans best friend. Since then I've learned on my own that women absolutely love and freely enjoy sex with whom they desire it from. However use it to get what they want from the groups opposite that. I know its said there is absolutely no free sex. From my own life experience I can tell you that's not true. I just choose to keep quiet as its quoted by others who believe differently.

It seems like a lot of work, much more than I am willing to do.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2494956]Come on E you've been a vet so long you forgot how we as newbies think. Most of us want non-pros and / or GFE. We lie about our age, living location, Marriage status, occupation, and a whole Lotta other shit to make us look like The guy we want them to perceive. Once we complicate our ejective then we slowly pull our heads out the Lions mouth.

While he was talking to her online they establish they were going to meet. Just meet no sex. Just getting to know one another. From that point they are no longer playing checkers. She's thinking I'm going to show him I'm different and I'm serious about playing my part. He's thinking she's acting so serious I'm going to get that pussy when she comes over. To show he's a good guy he volunteers to pays for her babysitter and Uber. She arrives and they have seriously intimate conversations. He loves the fact that she can speak English. The language barrier will always be a problem in meeting a Spanish Chica unless you speak it.

She showed him how determined she was. After the great conversation and small flirting; she got tired and took her position on the couch. Check. By 330 he found himself on vacation, pussy at his fingertips, but a lone in the bed by himself. Stuck with a stubborn ass chica who is royally pissing him off and turning him on at the speed. Not being able to take it no more he took an L. To save face he paid for her Uber back. Five days and about 20 Chicas later; he's calling her to see her again. A lot of us are not young wolves anymore. We would have left those grapes alone after the first or second Failed attempt. Vets to this game understand that being straight up and forward is the best defense..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sawassdee;2495075]On Earth sex is the is the other half of the second Dynamic. 1st is self survival (eating, avoiding danger etc.) 2nd is procreation which requires sex. I don't see them avoiding sex. I see it as desiring and having sex freely as well as in addition to using sex to aid in there addressing the 1st Dynamic when it fits them.

I came to that understanding at 19 when the older fellas taught me that cougars (ages 33 and up at that time) were a young mans best friend. Since then I've learned on my own that women absolutely love and freely enjoy sex with whom they desire it from. However use it to get what they want from the groups opposite that. I know its said there is absolutely no free sex. From my own life experience I can tell you that's not true. I just choose to keep quiet as its quoted by others who believe differently.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately for me I never got to bang a cougar in my adolescent years. I used to masturbate to them a lot though especially my next door friend's mom who wore sexy hot shorts. I used to look through the window at her watering her plants and do it, she used to see me looking at her too. Ah, what I wouldn´t do to bang that sexy Italian signora now.

My experience with desired sexual prospects has been that they see themselves as prima donnas and want me to work very hard to get into their panties. I always got the impression that they saw me as a marriage prospect thus placing many obstacles to putting out. Hardly beings who want sex as much as I do.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2495339]Unfortunately for me I never got to bang a cougar in my adolescent years. I used to masturbate to them a lot though especially my next door friend's mom who wore sexy hot shorts. I used to look through the window at her watering her plants and do it, she used to see me looking at her too. Ah, what I wouldnt do to bang that sexy Italian signora now.
[/QUOTE]Cougars love young dick. It makes them feel young. They can contain their desires better than we can as older men. Because with age most of us lose our youthful attraction; cougars feel like they have hit the fountain when they catch a young stud. Very similar to us.
I am happy we have money. Money looks the same as it did 20 years ago. With a little Dinero converted into pesos; I can feel like am 30 all over again.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2495339]Unfortunately for me I never got to bang a cougar in my adolescent years. I used to masturbate to them a lot though especially my next door friend's mom who wore sexy hot shorts. I used to look through the window at her watering her plants and do it, she used to see me looking at her too. Ah, what I wouldnt do to bang that sexy Italian signora now.

My experience with desired sexual prospects has been that they see themselves as prima donnas and want me to work very hard to get into their panties. I always got the impression that they saw me as a marriage prospect thus placing many obstacles to putting out. Hardly beings who want sex as much as I do.[/QUOTE]Cougars do all the freakiest ish with you, that they have to get paid to do with guys in their own or older age bracket! Hell, they will even have hot food cooked for you when you arrive, AND buy your girl a nice gift for you to give her just to keep her off the scent.

All you have to do is keep a secret, forget she exist until she reaches out to you to hook up, arrive and don't say nothing stupid (just stay quiet) and initiate the fuck within 10 minutes of arrival and leave after the deed and quick shower.

Mans Best friend!

[QUOTE=Sawassdee;2495384]Cougars do all the freakiest ish with you, that they have to get paid to do with guys in their own or older age bracket! Hell, they will even have hot food cooked for you when you arrive, AND buy your girl a nice gift for you to give her just to keep her off the scent.

All you have to do is keep a secret, forget she exist until she reaches out to you to hook up, arrive and don't say nothing stupid (just stay quiet) and initiate the fuck within 10 minutes of arrival and leave after the deed and quick shower.

Mans Best friend![/QUOTE]Now, that's some GREAT advice!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2494797]That is for guys that want to believe they are getting a better or less used chick. And also a good excuse for a chick to charge you more. Nobody is separating chicks that go to SA from chicks that go to Tinder, from chicks that go to Skokka, or any other site. As with any site you will have to weed through to get what you want. The other day a guy in the Medellin thread was saying there have been a lot of scammers on SA recently.

The site is primarily used by American guys to find sugar babies to support in the USA. I guess for guys that like to use the semi-pro euphemism. My mind does not work like that. For me it is either I am forking over money or I am not. Ain't no such thing as semi-paying; same as in my mind there is no such thing as semi-pro - she fucking for money or she isn't.[/QUOTE]I agree either you're paying for sex or not but It only matters if you choose to keep her in rotation (and if I were a short stayer / weekend warrior this wouldn't matter) If you keep her in rotation a semi only means how dependent or thirsty she is for your money. Or how she uses the long game on you. An experienced bitter hardcore will try to burn you out for what she can get and a semi will have better "customer service". That's really the only difference and that only matters if you choose to deal with her on an off and on long term basis.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2495687]I agree either you're paying for sex or not but It only matters if you choose to keep her in rotation (and if I were a short stayer / weekend warrior this wouldn't matter) If you keep her in rotation a semi only means how dependent or thirsty she is for your money. Or how she uses the long game on you. An experienced bitter hardcore will try to burn you out for what she can get and a semi will have better "customer service". That's really the only difference and that only matters if you choose to deal with her on an off and on long term basis.

Trip.[/QUOTE]I think what Mr. E is trying to say is only hoes fuck for money. Point blank there's no in between. When they go out on a date he doesn't expect anything and neither does she. If they happen to have sex so be it it's not for money. She shouldn't expect any money and he's not expected to give it.

Guys who are fluent in a language (Portuguese, Spanish, Creo etc.) and have an opportunity to travel frequently can venture off to the "normal" dating world. The small percentage of guys can filter and fine (quicker than most) the actual normal girls. It's kind of harder for us less fluent in the language. Some of us spend a lot of time going back-and-forth to our translator app.

That's why I always tell newbies, know what type of relationship you want. Like Tom J would say, "I only deal with pros". Like him I don't have time to play normal relationship. I want sex when Im ready and Ill pay you when Im done. Either we establish the particulars and a price or it's just Respectfully expected. Something strange for a piece of change. Like you, I to use the term pro semi pro and non-pro. IMHO There's no concrete definition for these terms except the exchange of money.

I'm telling why'all I don't know how he does it. He just show up to an area he's been in before, type in BC, Sdq, Sri, Med, or whatever keyword he's using for that area. 5 to 20 chicas names pop up and he starts dealing with the first one that responds. That's just too many chicas to keep up with for me. Even though he can be in Brazil one month and Thailand the next. There's no way I could or would want to keep up with entertaining that many chicas. That boy got a problem.

[QUOTE=Sawassdee;2495384]Cougars do all the freakiest ish with you, that they have to get paid to do with guys in their own or older age bracket! Hell, they will even have hot food cooked for you when you arrive, AND buy your girl a nice gift for you to give her just to keep her off the scent.

All you have to do is keep a secret, forget she exist until she reaches out to you to hook up, arrive and don't say nothing stupid (just stay quiet) and initiate the fuck within 10 minutes of arrival and leave after the deed and quick shower.

Mans Best friend![/QUOTE]Haha wow thanks for the best advice.

Based on comments from this board I've been using Dominican Cupid the past 4 weeks to find new ladies. I send messages and receive messages (replies & unsolicited) but most conversations take too long to develop or fizzle out. I have one woman on Dominican Cupid that replies on average 7 days after I send her a message. I maintain that conversation more out of curiosity than avid interest just to see what happens.

The same thing occurs on Seeking but I do find motivated women that are interested in meeting. I plan to keep working with Dominican Cupid since they do have some good lookers on the site. Is this like fishing, learning how to bait the hook and then where to cast?

Strawhat.

[QUOTE=StrawHat;2497037]Based on comments from this board I've been using Dominican Cupid the past 4 weeks to find new ladies. I send messages and receive messages (replies & unsolicited) but most conversations take too long to develop or fizzle out. I have one woman on Dominican Cupid that replies on average 7 days after I send her a message. I maintain that conversation more out of curiosity than avid interest just to see what happens.

The same thing occurs on Seeking but I do find motivated women that are interested in meeting. I plan to keep working with Dominican Cupid since they do have some good lookers on the site. Is this like fishing, learning how to bait the hook and then where to cast?

Strawhat.[/QUOTE]Yes it is. This is a surface overview of what works for me personally.

1. ONLY chat / work on chicas who clearly WANT to chat with you now. (You want to F#%k today!) I recommend using 2 or more apps in combined effort to find MORE girls that are keen to chat with you NOW.

2. ONLY chat with chicas that are in your accessible vicinity now! (You want to f #%k today, not possibly next trip.) - Do not waste your time chatting up anyone outside of your physical area. She more than likely will be locked down with someone else who is already in her vicinity when its time for your next trip.

3. Make the app interview quick. Less than 5 minutes total before getting her outside contact. (Whatsapp etc.) Now you are more real to her AND she knows you like her because you asked to advance the relationship outside of the meat market (Cupid / tinder / badoo etc.) Now you can realistically work on you and her meeting up.

I put the much more detailed list for the Cupid app that includes search settings, profile descriptions, convo etc. In your inbox.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=StrawHat;2497037]Based on comments from this board I've been using Dominican Cupid the past 4 weeks to find new ladies. I send messages and receive messages (replies & unsolicited) but most conversations take too long to develop or fizzle out.
The same thing occurs on Seeking but I do find motivated women that are interested in meeting.[/QUOTE]What are you trying to converse about? You are wasting your time trying to talk to most Dominicans. As I have stated many times the extent of their conversation abilities is Hello. How are you. And that is good to hear. Even if you ask them something specific they ignore what you actually wrote and answer what they "expected" you to be writing. (example below)

You use the site to get contacts, then when you are in town ready to see them you send a message saying I am in such and such, let's get together.

Cupid is relatively cheap. I have seen with my own eyes some of these chicks having 2000 messages in their inbox. You ain't the only mf trying to talk to them. Seeking is relatively expensive, so there are less people trying to talk to them and you will get responses more often.

You are not gaining anything by trying to chat to a chick the same as 800 other horny dudes around the world. You are only in the catbird seat when you are on the ground able to see them in person. If you are not in the country, then 4 weeks is way too soon to be looking for chicks.

[QUOTE=StrawHat;2497037]I have one woman on Dominican Cupid that replies on average 7 days after I send her a message.[/QUOTE]The answer to this is to say 7 days to answer? I have already left Santo Domingo. Then that separates you from all the mfs just running their mouth. At least she will know that you actually come to the country and will be more attentive to you. Then you just say I am thinking of coming back in a couple of weeks or whenever your real trip was planned for. (example below)