Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2751130]Planning on going to Sao Paulo towards the end of January for two weeks but the prices of flights from the UK are crazy at the minute.

Last time I went to Rio it was around 500 but cheapest to Sao Paulo or Rio during this time is 800 plus. I went to Rio in March last time so not sure how much difference that makes.

I know flight prices are up in general bit they aren't up that much to other countries.[/QUOTE]I am finding the same thing traveling from the USA I want to fly direct and it costs 1000+ in economy. I may pivot my trip since the flight is so expensive compared to this time last year.

[QUOTE=KcDark;2751793]I am finding the same thing traveling from the USA I want to fly direct and it costs 1000+ in economy. I may pivot my trip since the flight is so expensive compared to this time last year.[/QUOTE]Yeah its annoying. I can afford it but I hate paying 60% more for the same journey. Cost of doing business I guess.

[QUOTE=KcDark;2751793]I am finding the same thing traveling from the USA I want to fly direct and it costs 1000+ in economy. I may pivot my trip since the flight is so expensive compared to this time last year.[/QUOTE]If you want to go to SP but it seems expensive just book Rio separate. Book a round trip to Rio. And then book a round trip to SP separately. The SP Rio round trip will be super cheap because local. When you try to book it altogether it's more expensive.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2751912]If you want to go to SP but it seems expensive just book Rio separate. Book a round trip to Rio. And then book a round trip to SP separately. The SP Rio round trip will be super cheap because local. When you try to book it altogether it's more expensive.[/QUOTE]That makes sense. I am more frustrated about the price of an economy 9 hour flight. I usually get a fidgety middle isle person sitting next to me.

I was planning on going to Brazil this year but prices (flights hotel) are just rediculous right now. It got me thinking is there anywhere in world with a club quite like scandallo?

For context I am relatively young 33 and have limited experience with mongering in Brazil Mexico Germany and Colombia. I Live in the us but I have given up on this country for mongering.

Within Brazil there are similar but not quite as good. Years ago I was at cafe photo with the same quality girls but pricier and fewer quantity. Bamboa has some good ones as well but so small don't think you could even fit All the girls let alone customers from scandallo on a given night. All other clubs I have been to in Sao Paulo only have a few scandallo quality girls if any.

In campinas is fazendinha with top girls but not all are hot and also a mixed bag depending on the day.

In porto alegre there was gruta azul and Carmens gruta azul a little higher end but nothing close to sacandalo. Have only spent one weekend with coworkers in rio only made it Centaurus which was ok. I heard and read good things about 4 x4 but from research I don't believe will match up.

In Bogota lido was very good but no where to be at ease with the girls for negotiating probably comparable to the old bamboa before it moved.

In Medellin luna lunera was probably the only other place with the consistent quality of girls as scandallo with less quantity but still decent amount of girls also had some issues girls who were stripping constantly asking for tip even if I was not watching them.

In munich villa romana also had quality girls similar to scandallo but only about 10 max on a given night and don't think you can't take the girls out.

In Mexico can't say I have seen any comparable venue. Maybe in Bangkok when I go next month I can have some context. Again I don't have the experience as some other members but please let me know of any location that I should check out in world.

I was planning on going to Sao Paulo this year but prices (flight hotel) are just rediculous. Still I miss scandallo and the legendary nights I have had. It got me thinking is there anywhere in the world quite like scandallo?

Just for context I am 33 and limited mongering experience. Also being married for some of those mongering years slowed me down a bit. Still I was able to check out places through Brasil, Colombia Mexico and Germany (just Munich). And the following are compatible but just don't meet the bar set by scandallo in my opinion.

Sao Paulo.

Years ago was at café FOTO. Yes quality of girls were comparable but prices were not, nor was the quantity of girls. Also no rooms in the place had to go to hotel.

Bamboa has some comparable quality girls but new location so small don't think you can fit all the girls let alone customers on a given night at scandallo.

All other clubs I have been to (casarao, Bahamas etc.) only a handful of quality girls.

Campinas.

Only thing close to scandallo is fazendinha But in the middle of nowhere and quality and quantity varies depending on the day.

Porto alegre.

Gruta azul higher end girls with a lower price but again not enough girls. Tia Carmen also had some gems but the place a little trashy. Domino even more trashy.

Rio.

Have only spent one weekend in Rio for work and only made it to Centaurus. Have heard and read good things from 4 x4 but from research don't think this would match scandallo quality.

Bogota.

Lido similar to bamboas old location with some quality girls but too loud to negotiate and screen effectively.

Medellin.

Luna lunera is the only place I can say came close when looking at quality and quantity but still not a match for scandallo. Also the girls stripping are constantly asking for tips even if I was not watching.

Munich.

Vila romana had the quality standard but only 10 girls at any given time but all were hot. Also don't think you can take the girls out.

Mexico has yet give me a venue.

Maybe in Bangkok next month I can share some comparable places.

Again I don't have too much experience but let me know of any comparable places in the world.

Below is my best attempt to summarize 3 months in São Paulo. The main takeaway is that sugar dating sites yielded the best results although boates like Scandallo have certain uses as well. Communication, both in Portuguese and understanding the Brazilian culture, was the differentiating factor to a good experience.

I should start by saying that I prefer reasonably stable, non-monogamous relationships where I see the same girl a few times per week. 2+ such relationships make for a good time since girls can be busy with school, family, etc. Before Brazil, I thought I preferred girls under 25 but now I realize that while more attractive sexually, as an overall experience girls over 25 are more reliable, better conversationalists and better behaved overall.

I'll break down my experiences in terms of categories below.

Local Pros: These are girls who have never left Brazil. All those I've met want to leave Brazil and work in Western Europe or Dubai. They are typically younger, less intelligent, less brave and despite being hot, provide a mediocre experience. Most of them I met at Scandallo, and one I accidentally met via the sugar dating site MeuPatrocinio. They dream, but do not execute. However, they'll happily comply with what I wanted them to do (despite not doing it well).

Traveled Pros: Girls who have worked outside Brazil. Despite being older, these girls provided the best sexual experiences of the trip. Never before tried sexual positions and an insane amount of energy. I met a few via Seeking (who worked with an agency handling their Seeking accounts) and one at Scandallo. Most of them sadly don't have any hobbies beyond partying, which makes a long-term relationship impractical. *.

The one exception to this had a perfect body, a completely submissive attitude, and an unbelievable intuition about what I wanted her to do. Sadly, she very clearly had been working a lot because after kissing her I immediately started feeling pain in my mouth and throat. We found a way to work around this, with her getting me excited by sucking on my nipples and kissing my neck (awkward maybe, but she did it with aplomb). The other important takeaway from that experience is that once you have Brazilian ass, most asses look bland by comparison from the back.

Clinica Pros: Amazing skills, poor conversation, sadly riddled with disease. I got a sore throat after seeing one and one amazing night doesn't make up for a few days of being out of commission.

Out Of Town Girls: These girls either came to work at Scandallo or on sugar dating sites for a week or so, but lived in some smaller city in Brazil. These were the worst experiences. Despite being submissive, these girls had poor skills and weren't too bright. They saw their time in the city as an opportunity to eat at fancy restaurants (serving shitty food) and me as their means to do so. I'm not a fan of micromanaging my partners or telling them no all the time, hence instant disqualification for future girls in this category.

"New" Sugar Babies: These were girls mostly met on MeuPatrocinio (which is far more populated than Seeking), who were new to Sao Paulo and sugar dating. These experiences, like the traveled pros, were among the best. Unlike the out of town girls, these girls were ambitious. They left their lives behind to get an education or a career in the big city. They were motivated, and although not as good as the traveled pros, they exceeded the local pros in bedroom skills.

One of my favorites showed me the meaning of the term "power bottom" as I stood there while her ass did all the work while I was on top of her prone, face-down body. The other came out of the bathroom completely naked and told me she likes to cum at least once a day, and if she doesn't have a man around uses her dildo. Refreshingly direct.

I fell for some of these girls and provided them with gifts in excess of a casual relationship. This was consistently an error. Instead of reciprocating, they felt more financially comfortable to spend more time with their friends.

"Experienced" Sugar Babies: These girls had prior sugar daddies, either locally or outside Brazil. Some of these girls had unreasonable expectations, like being lavished with gifts, which obviously didn't work out. Other were more casual, and understood that casual relationships don't imply gifts as do more involved relationships. I suspect the girls in this pool were here because of some personality defect, because the new sugar babies were overall much more impressive.

"Models": While a number of the other girls did some small-time modeling, the more modeling a girl did, the more it seems to inflate her ego. Having her own clothing brand is a bright orange flag. Perhaps even worse, the difference between the girl in real life and her pictures was often staggering. Photo editing hides poor skin complexion, excess fat, old age, and a frankly weird-looking face when talking. Combine this with excessive confidence and a desire to be rewarded accordingly, and these just did not work out.

Conclusions: Despite some incredible experiences with traveled pros, the risks for getting sick aren't worth it for me. The late nights at Scandallo eventually wear down your body. And anyways, a girl who has ambitions for a business or an education remains interesting longer than one who's primarily interested in drinking and traveling (as most of the pros seem to).

What ultimately impressed me most is the Brazilian female temperament. They are the least crazy of all women I've met so far. Combine that with a first-class ass, an openness to enhancing their chests, dedication to regular gym going and I might just take one of these girls back to the US with me.

Looking forward to coming back for another 3 months soon.

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;2751953]Conclusions: Despite some incredible experiences with traveled pros, the risks for getting sick aren't worth it for me. The late nights at Scandallo eventually wear down your body.[/QUOTE]My first trip to Brazil (and my shortest ever), was just 10 days. In that time, I lost one day of mongering due to illness after having had some sushi. I thanked God that it only lasted a day, and I bounced back quickly (and I have never eaten sushi in Brazil ever again LOL). But upon my return home, I was so sick that I literally had to take a full week off of work just to recover. I went buck wild in Rio during those 10 fateful days hahaha! A key source of me not feeling well had to do with having a sore throat. That came from all of the DFKing I had done with all of them there tutes! As the more seasoned Brazil mongers advised me, what I needed to do was gargle with Listerine regularly. I have done that religiously on every trip to Brazil since (plus made sure I got a sufficient amount of sleep) and have not gotten sick again on any mongering trip to anyplace. I gargle with the Listerine before I head out and as soon as I get back to my room (at least twice a day), and it's works like a dream! Helps to beat back all those germs from kissing on the tutes and eating that ass LOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2751944]Again I don't have too much experience but let me know of any comparable places in the world.[/QUOTE]I hate to break it to you, but I've been around the world and haven't discovered any place on par with Scandallo in Sampa. As I recently noted in another thread, Scandallo is pretty incomparable! That said, there are of course plenty of other venues worth experiencing that can bring you that kind of "live" excitement that Steve has spoken about in some of his posts. You mentioned many already. I would add Vive Madrid in Spain's capital and the top FKK clubs throughout Germany and Switzerland (see the relevant threads). Dubai also has lots and lots of clubs with girls from all over the world. I really like the Ruskies and found some drop dead gorgeous ones at the time in places like Premiere and Cavalli. So, there's some more suggestions. But I'm afraid you won't find another Scandallo at this time. And if you do please let us know! And I will do the same hehehe!

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;2751953]Below is my best attempt to summarize 3 months in So Paulo. ....[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report and the information about MeuPatrocinio. We were browsing MeuPatrocinio after reading your previous post but it felt the site is not real. So it is safe to pay for the access? Sorry if it is a dumb question.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2751944]I was planning on going to Sao Paulo this year but prices (flight hotel) are just rediculous. Still I miss scandallo and the legendary nights I have had. It got me thinking is there anywhere in the world quite like scandallo?

Just for context I am 33 and limited mongering experience. Also being married for some of those mongering years slowed me down a bit. Still I was able to check out places through Brasil, Colombia Mexico and Germany (just Munich). And the following are compatible but just don't meet the bar set by scandallo in my opinion.

Sao Paulo.

Years ago was at caf FOTO. Yes quality of girls were comparable but prices were not, nor was the quantity of girls. Also no rooms in the place had to go to hotel.

Bamboa has some comparable quality girls but new location so small don't think you can fit all the girls let alone customers on a given night at scandallo.

All other clubs I have been to (casarao, Bahamas etc.) only a handful of quality girls.

Campinas.

Only thing close to scandallo is fazendinha But in the middle of nowhere and quality and quantity varies depending on the day.

Porto alegre.

Gruta azul higher end girls with a lower price but again not enough girls. Tia Carmen also had some gems but the place a little trashy. Domino even more trashy.

Rio.

Have only spent one weekend in Rio for work and only made it to Centaurus. Have heard and read good things from 4 x4 but from research don't think this would match scandallo quality.

Bogota.

Lido similar to bamboas old location with some quality girls but too loud to negotiate and screen effectively.

Medellin.

Luna lunera is the only place I can say came close when looking at quality and quantity but still not a match for scandallo. Also the girls stripping are constantly asking for tips even if I was not watching.

Munich.

Vila romana had the quality standard but only 10 girls at any given time but all were hot. Also don't think you can take the girls out.

Mexico has yet give me a venue.

Maybe in Bangkok next month I can share some comparable places.

Again I don't have too much experience but let me know of any comparable places in the world.[/QUOTE]Hong Kong in Tijuana comes close yet so far to Scandalo. Its a distance second maybe. Nothing like Scandalo, La Isla circa 2016 had a lineup that rivaled any brothel but those days are long gone.

Hello everyone,

I appreciate all for contributing to this thread, I am planning to visit SP for the first time in the beginning of the December, I am still deciding between Medellin and SP (may be both with 3 days each). This will be my first south American trip and I am thinking of visiting Scandallo and try Seeking. Can someone provide quality of girls in seeking and would it be better to target places like Scandallo for just 3 days?

Also would like to know amount of quality girls in SP vs MDE, I know MDE is budget friendly when compared to SP, but would like have really good quality as this is the first time I am mongering in years.

Thanks all.

Nice comparisons around the world! No other place like Scandallo in terms of quantity and quality. There is one sauna in Hong Kong that had a huge lineup but no GFE.

Cafe foto will start to get more girls from Scandallo because it only cost them 50 R per night to go in and out whereas Scandallo now cost them 300 R if they don't go everyday. However foto is small also.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2751944]I was planning on going to Sao Paulo this year but prices (flight hotel) are just rediculous. Still I miss scandallo and the legendary nights I have had. It got me thinking is there anywhere in the world quite like scandallo?

Just for context I am 33 and limited mongering experience. Also being married for some of those mongering years slowed me down a bit. Still I was able to check out places through Brasil, Colombia Mexico and Germany (just Munich). And the following are compatible but just don't meet the bar set by scandallo in my opinion.

Sao Paulo.

Years ago was at caf FOTO. Yes quality of girls were comparable but prices were not, nor was the quantity of girls. Also no rooms in the place had to go to hotel..[/QUOTE]

Hey Ted, enjoyed reading your post, you do not have alot of post but you certainly nailed it with this report!

I've found that the more hot they are the more messed they are in the head. Real MILFs are better at sex then non milfs I found but they have a limit to how long they will fuck. Non milfs have more energy and can do it multiple times a day. Travel girls are open to negotiate shopping / gifts in lieu of money but they limit how many times they fuck. The sweet spot are ones that are from the interior who is a home body and wants to be near family and do not like to work as pros are not jaded and they are GFE. And if they are studying to be in healthcare they are even better, brains, looks, and hygiene so they don't pass on STDs. The cheaper the place the higher the risk is a good correlation. Bomboa and Foto use to require testing every 2 months but at Scandallo they do not because the amount of girls is too difficult to manage. Testing together is the best method, some labs do same day results in SP.

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;2751953]Below is my best attempt to summarize 3 months in So Paulo. The main takeaway is that sugar dating sites yielded the best results although boates like Scandallo have certain uses as well. Communication, both in Portuguese and understanding the Brazilian culture, was the differentiating factor to a good experience.

I should start by saying that I prefer reasonably stable, non-monogamous relationships where I see the same girl a few times per week. 2+ such relationships make for a good time since girls can be busy with school, family, etc. Before Brazil, I thought I preferred girls under 25 but now I realize that while more attractive sexually, as an overall experience girls over 25 are more reliable, better conversationalists and better behaved overall.

I'll break down my experiences in terms of categories below.

Local Pros: These are girls who have never left Brazil. All those I've met want to leave Brazil and work in Western Europe or Dubai. They are typically younger, less intelligent, less brave and despite being hot, provide a mediocre experience. Most of them I met at Scandallo, and one I accidentally met via the sugar dating site MeuPatrocinio. They dream, but do not execute. However, they'll happily comply with what I wanted them to do (despite not doing it well)..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2751944]I was planning on going to Sao Paulo this year but prices (flight hotel) are just rediculous. Still I miss scandallo and the legendary nights I have had. It got me thinking is there anywhere in the world quite like scandallo?

Just for context I am 33 and limited mongering experience. Also being married for some of those mongering years slowed me down a bit. Still I was able to check out places through Brasil, Colombia Mexico and Germany (just Munich). And the following are compatible but just don't meet the bar set by scandallo in my opinion.

Sao Paulo.

Years ago was at caf FOTO. Yes quality of girls were comparable but prices were not, nor was the quantity of girls. Also no rooms in the place had to go to hotel.

Bamboa has some comparable quality girls but new location so small don't think you can fit all the girls let alone customers on a given night at scandallo.

All other clubs I have been to (casarao, Bahamas etc.) only a handful of quality girls.

Campinas.

Only thing close to scandallo is fazendinha But in the middle of nowhere and quality and quantity varies depending on the day.

Porto alegre.

Gruta azul higher end girls with a lower price but again not enough girls. Tia Carmen also had some gems but the place a little trashy. Domino even more trashy.

Rio.

Have only spent one weekend in Rio for work and only made it to Centaurus. Have heard and read good things from 4 x4 but from research don't think this would match scandallo quality.

Bogota.

Lido similar to bamboas old location with some quality girls but too loud to negotiate and screen effectively.

Medellin.

Luna lunera is the only place I can say came close when looking at quality and quantity but still not a match for scandallo. Also the girls stripping are constantly asking for tips even if I was not watching.

Munich.

Vila romana had the quality standard but only 10 girls at any given time but all were hot. Also don't think you can take the girls out.

Mexico has yet give me a venue.

Maybe in Bangkok next month I can share some comparable places.

Again I don't have too much experience but let me know of any comparable places in the world.[/QUOTE]Yes Scandalo is also my favorite but as much for the club as the girls. Looking worldwide if you went to Germany and only Munich that is a shame. It has the worst FKK scene in Germany. Go anywhere but Munich. LOL. In Frankfurt Sharks is widely considered best. Or Globe in Zurich. But I went to a small club north of thesseldorf called Penelope and had two great girls. Def a much smaller scene tho.

Would recommend Vive in Madrid as quite Scandalo like tho on a smaller scale. Took three girls (Colombiana, Brasileira, Dominican) and all three were great. See my report in Madrid thread. Going to try the Costa del Sol soon where Estark 92 and Scandallo (yes) both have good reps. I'll report back in a few weeks.