Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1649099]The Racism issue does exist at Mixx and it is a shame it happens but Mixx is not the only one. Although a good report I came away with a sense that the BM was compensating by paying more?[/QUOTE]I have seen small examples of racism there, but to be honest I was with a friend who was visiting pattaya for like the 30th time so I got to sit in a lot of bars after closing times and chat with the mama sans and girls. It's usually based on previous situations that have happened. For example the one I was speaking to does not allow people of Indian origins in her bar, reasons several counts of beating the girls, getting drunk and throwing up in the bar and many others. These can happen from anyone but given that it has by chance only happened by this certain group just made her ban them.

Still unfair but like the fellow below did you can just move on to the next bar.

[QUOTE=SnoozyBoozy;1649070]
At Uncle V: We can plan for your bachelors when its time.
[/QUOTE]Haha! Thanks Snoozy! At least I now have one good reason to get married. But lets try to keep the price of this BP down. 2K LT is probably the limit for LT on FLs and we should try for 1.5K as the average.

Nice and detailed FR.

We (I + 5) too also planning for one bachelor party in Thailand.

Your FR is really helpful.

[QUOTE=SnoozyBoozy;1648661]Hey all,

I have been a regular on ISG, but this is my first post in Pattaya forum, I had visited Thailand few months ago, and would love to share my experience, maybe some of you can get some good tips from it. Please excuse me for a long FR, just wanted to be as detailed as possible.

We were a group of 4, while all of them flew in from the middle east, I flew in from India.

Landed at Bangkok (BKK) airport and took a taxi to Pattaya, checked into Hotel Nova, which is a girl friendly hotel that does not charge extra for guests you bring in at any time of the day, but, the girl needs to have an I'd. Hotel rates were pretty reasonable, check online to get better deals. There's also a list of girl friendly hotels online.

We reached Pattaya at about 1 PM, checked into our rooms, freshened up, and then headed to Sabai Soapy massage. It was my first soapy experience, must say it was the best, and as the day progressed, it got better. Damage was THB 2500 + THB 200 tips for 2 pops. You just need to tell the girl before the act that you would like 2 pops within the stipulated time. Grabbed some lunch after the soapy, walked a bit around walking street, and headed back to the hotel for a nice power nap...[/QUOTE]

Is the worst place to monger. Wannabe superstars asking 2 - 3000 baht for ST. Most ot these girls have already a man somewhere supporting them, so basically they don't give a f * MHO is avoid this place unless you are one of those stupid youngsters looking for. Loveeee.

[QUOTE=Moegy;1649255]I have seen small examples of racism there, but to be honest I was with a friend who was visiting pattaya for like the 30th time so I got to sit in a lot of bars after closing times and chat with the mama sans and girls. It's usually based on previous situations that have happened. For example the one I was speaking to does not allow people of Indian origins in her bar, reasons several counts of beating the girls, getting drunk and throwing up in the bar and many others. These can happen from anyone but given that it has by chance only happened by this certain group just made her ban them.

Still unfair but like the fellow below did you can just move on to the next bar.[/QUOTE]When it comes to Indians as we speak in general the profiled that is being applied are those that you see in groups on Beach Road and Walking Street. Like the Chinese from the Mainland they are arriving now many for the first time in small to large tour groups due to their growing economy. For many it seems to be their first time and are like kids in a candy store for the first time. They seem to have brought some of their worse aspect of behavior from their country basically lack of manners and respect for women?

That being said not a expert! This generalization and profile Thais have of Indians have been passed on to all Indians even those that have been educated and brought up or live in the West.

[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1649396]Is the worst place to monger. Wannabe superstars asking 2 - 3000 baht for ST. Most ot these girls have already a man somewhere supporting them, so basically they don't give a f * MHO is avoid this place unless you are one of those stupid youngsters looking for. Loveeee.[/QUOTE]Marco, I respectfully disagree. I'm sure there are a lot of girls there that meet that description. But I've had a great time there. I had an amazing threesome with some girls from there in May and hooked up with two great girls form there during my August trip. One I must have fucked 6-7 times and she stayed with me until 5 PM the next day (and never even mentioned money. Though I paid her 1500). The other was among the top 3 hottest girls I have ever bedded and gave great GFE including CIM. Check my past reports for details.

Does that mean the place is a sure thing? Of course not! I've also had nights there where I haven't been able to find anyone I liked or clicked with. But its easy to just move on and there are so many other options close by if you strike out.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-V.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1649581]When it comes to Indians as we speak in general the profiled that is being applied are those that you see in groups on Beach Road and Walking Street. Like the Chinese from the Mainland they are arriving now many for the first time in small to large tour groups due to their growing economy. For many it seems to be their first time and are like kids in a candy store for the first time. They seem to have brought some of their worse aspect of behavior from their country basically lack of manners and respect for women?.[/QUOTE]On my first trip I used to be constantly surprised that the girl would ask me are you alone?! I used to be perplexed. But now I know! The groups arriving from India are ruining it for all of us. Hopefully, there are plenty well educated, well mannered of us around to hopefully change this impression with time! At least one would hope.

[QUOTE=Tptp76;1649690]On my first trip I used to be constantly surprised that the girl would ask me are you alone?! I used to be perplexed. But now I know! The groups arriving from India are ruining it for all of us. Hopefully, there are plenty well educated, well mannered of us around to hopefully change this impression with time! At least one would hope.[/QUOTE]That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on beach road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).

P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1/2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.

Being an Indian myself I'm not surprised why we get discriminated in Thailand! I have seen how we Indians behave and I have learned my lessons now I travel alone to Thailand!! So far never faced any issue entering clubs planing a trip this Jan!

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1649747]That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on beach road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).

P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1/2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1649747]That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on beach road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).

P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1/2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.[/QUOTE]Sorry I'm completely a newbie but when you say "groups of Indians have almost no access" could you elaborate on that please? I'm an Indian American wanted to plan my first trip to Thailand so I'm just wondering.

Thanks in advance.

FYI. Just two weeks ago a buddy and I were sitting at one of the 10-12 bars that back up to the water, I think one of bars facing walking street says Frog something across from Sugar Babies. Anyway, we were enjoying our beers and having fun watching all the girls scream at that the guys walking in trying to get them to come to their bar. They held up signs like, "Free Blow Job", "Fuck me tonight pay me tomorrow", etc. As the guy or group of guys walked in these ladies would scream their lungs out to try to get the attentions of the new prospective customers walking in. Well, we watched this for well over an hour laughing with girls and watching the reaction of the prospective new customers. Then, a group of 5-6 Indians walked in and you could hear a pin drop, every girl in all the bars, I guess about 80-100 ladies, ignored the Indians like they were not even there. I asked one of the ladies at our bar what is going on and she said, "Men No Good".

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1649747]That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on Beach Road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).

P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1-2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IAmRamesh86;1649947]Being an Indian myself I'm not surprised why we get discriminated in Thailand! I have seen how we Indians behave and I have learned my lessons now I travel alone to Thailand!! So far never faced any issue entering clubs planing a trip this Jan![/QUOTE]Yea man, totally get it, I was thinking of short trip end of Jan as well since a girl I met randomly (she gave me a lift) and works in a salon is trying to sweeten the deal. But then again can't decide and might just be stuck with just one girl for the 3 days that I am there which would be horrific.

[QUOTE=OfficialKnight;1649981]Sorry I'm completely a newbie but when you say "groups of Indians have almost no access" could you elaborate on that please? I'm an Indian American wanted to plan my first trip to Thailand so I'm just wondering.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]You will understand the moment you get onto walking street / beach road. So if you are an Indian (from America or wherever) and travelling with Indians in a group let's say anything more than one will only hurt your case (fly solo), you aren't going to be allowed into most Go-Gos and a few bars. However, if you travel alone or with 'falang' friends, it should be no problem and you won't even notice the discrimination.

[QUOTE=FeelzGood;1650066] I asked one of the ladies at our bar what is going on and she said, "Men No Good".[/QUOTE]Yep, happens all the time and some of the local girls have picked up the typical Indian greeting and a few lines of our local cinema and make it a point to sing it out. Not sure if its them just being funny or making fun of us. Anyways, doesn't matter much, it is a fun place nevertheless, lots of options even when denied.

[QUOTE=IAmRamesh86;1649947]Being an Indian myself I'm not surprised why we get discriminated in Thailand! I have seen how we Indians behave and I have learned my lessons now I travel alone to Thailand!! So far never faced any issue entering clubs planing a trip this Jan![/QUOTE]Buddy where are welcome?

Most of the places hate us, Europe, USA, Asia.

For the few bretheren, we all face hell and havoc.

[QUOTE=Wandere;1650134]Buddy where are welcome?

Most of the places hate us, Europe, USA, Asia.

For the few bretheren, we all face hell and havoc.[/QUOTE]Indians always seem to stroll around in groups of 4. Why don't you guys try splitting up and try going around alone?

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1649747]That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on beach road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).

P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1/2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.[/QUOTE]This is not only the case in Thailand. I have been coming to Indonesia since 1991 and every time I have seen groups of Indians (including the very recognisable Sikhs) trawling the Jakarta bars and discos. They were not behaving very nice towards other people.

A few simple examples from my own experience:

- Check-in time at Atlet Century; guests line up to check in at a number of staff. In walks an Indian family, barges past the lines and wants to check in. The staff managed to remain polite and sent them back to the start of the line;.

- Check-in at Atlet Century; an Indian family checks in and wants to pay a deposit with some extremely decrepit dollar bills. The staff does not accept these bills (hotel policy) whereupon the Indian matron asks "Do YOU have a problem with these bills?" No, the lady did not, but hotel policy did.

I started to understand why people dislike Indians.

Regards,

Ko.