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[QUOTE=Kuni042;2441142]Simply untrue. There is NO quarantine in Germany. There are significant restriction. But I can leave my house in Germany at any time and not only for shopping food, but also for visiting relatives, doing sport in my region, etc.[/QUOTE]But max 2 people can meet each other in the street in Germany.
All shops, restaurants, museums, gyms are closed.
For me, this sounds like quarantine for everyone.
In Sweden, the restriction is max 50 persons for meetings.
I train at the gym every second day.
I go by metro to my work every day.
And contrary to other countries, only risk groups are put in quarantine.
And one more thing. More than 50% of dead people by Corona in Sweden are old people from immigrant-suburbs.
Many of these cannot read or speak Swedish. Therefore, they have not been able to assimilate information about the Corona-virus.
Hope Germany open soon, then I can go to FKK or at least meet 2 of my girls at my hotel (if FKK still closed).
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[QUOTE=Kuni042;2441142]Simply untrue. There is NO quarantine in Germany. There are significant restriction. But I can leave my house in Germany at any time and not only for shopping food, but also for visiting relatives, doing sport in my region, etc.[/QUOTE]You are lucky, even I have a job allowance, but lack of freedom is worse for me than virus effects.
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[QUOTE=Kuni042;2441142]Simply untrue. There is NO quarantine in Germany. There are significant restriction. But I can leave my house in Germany at any time and not only for shopping food, but also for visiting relatives, doing sport in my region, etc.[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] What about Bayern and Saarland? Complete lockdown.
[url]https://www.thelocal.de/20200320/bavaria-becomes-first-german-state-to-impose-lockdown[/url]
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[QUOTE=PunterWanderer;2440890]Technically, in France only customers are persecuted by a fine of 1500 euros (3000 if repeat offenders) + reeducation classes (LOL). [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2440896]Prostitution is not illegal in France.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2441101]I am just curious as to why you say this. France has the Swedish model so that buyers and not sellers are prosecuted and fined a considerable amount. So it is defacto illegal. I know you are able to get escorts in France and Paris as you point out. However if the police catch you, you can be fined a considerable amount, right?
Are you saying it is not illegal, because the Police never enforce these policies or that they never check the online escort agencies? Or do they, then it is in fact illegal, at least in the sense of having legal repercussions for buyers.[/QUOTE]France has adopted the Swedish model, so basically prostitution is not formally illegal. As a matter of fact, it is. The hypocrisy is that girls still freely exercise and promote their services. The same goes in Sweden, as far as I know.
If you take a walk in the streets of Paris, you will find out that the hot spots of SWs are precisely where they were 10 years ago. As for the incall scene, everything is practically out in the open. Just throw a quick glance at ad websites, etc. You will find explictly shown rates, services, etc.
I guess that, for the punters, incall is safer than picking up SWs, as it is way more difficult for the police to prove the monetary exchange. Must admit that, back in the days, I would definitely go for SWs if in the mood to do so, while now I wouldn't risk it. I also got the feeling that the prohibitionist legislation is either propaganda or the police generally doesn't prosecute prostitution/mongers. Most likely, both things.
However, not a great loss; besides a few gems, my opinion is that P4P scene in France does generally suck, unless you have deep pockets (and even then). In a couple of hours by train, you are in Koln, so why risk it?
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[QUOTE=BaltiX;2440950]A number of countries including France and Italy had more liberal laws towards prostitution until WWII ended. One of Italy's biggest parties wants to open up the brothels. [/QUOTE]In Italy, until 1958 there were 560 brothels, legally authorised by the State, which made soaring profits from it and implemented mandatory, regular health checks. Over the last years parties discussed whether introducing RLD, restoring the older model, or just adopting the German model. However, I don't think they will change the legal framework of prostitution nor will they reopen brothels anytime soon. Which is a pity, also given the dire state of Italian public finances.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2441013]Really? So finally Romanian girls cannot claim Italian in Italian FKK if it opens up LOL They be Spanish then LOL![/QUOTE]This is indeed what they normally do in Italy :D
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[URL]http://www.healthdata.org/news-release/new-covid-19-forecasts-europe-italy-spain-have-passed-peak-their-epidemics-uk-early-its[/URL]
According to this forecast, the pandemic has peaked in Italy last week, while Spain should peak this week. Deaths in Germany are expected to peak in the third week of April.
I guess that from mid-May things are going to gradually get back to normal.
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[QUOTE=Kuni042;2441142]Simply untrue. There is NO quarantine in Germany. There are significant restriction. But I can leave my house in Germany at any time and not only for shopping food, but also for visiting relatives, doing sport in my region, etc.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sirioja;2441149]You are lucky, even I have a job allowance, but lack of freedom is worse for me than virus effects.[/QUOTE]I am much surprised that you Sirioja, from France, who travel so much in Germany, does not know that Saarland, the province right on the border with France and on the main route to Frankfurt is in complete lockdown.
This is strange to me.
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[QUOTE=PunterWanderer;2441189][URL]http://www.healthdata.org/news-release/new-covid-19-forecasts-europe-italy-spain-have-passed-peak-their-epidemics-uk-early-its[/URL]
According to this forecast, the pandemic has peaked in Italy last week, while Spain should peak this week. Deaths in Germany are expected to peak in the third week of April.
I guess that from mid-May things are going to gradually get back to normal.[/QUOTE]I call them optimistic assumptions.
The virus has mutated at least 40 times already. And those are only figures from samples made on Iceland! Globally I am sure you can at least multiply that by 10!
Basically, even if a person gets well from one strain out of those 40, he or she still has 39 chances left of getting sick!
And vaccines? Well, with this mutation rate, are hardly worth more than the vials they are kept in!
The different death rates in different countries can probably be ascribed to the various different mutations as well. And give it 6 more months, we might have 10 000 mutations. If only 1% of these are worse than for example the one we saw in northern Italy, or the one currently killing 20-year olds in New York, we're going to be in trouble for a very long time! Icelandic people who attended a footballmatch in England and aquired the virus there had a total of 7 different strains of the virus. So this thing will be very elusive. And we have absolutely no idea how this will end! Nobody does!
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2441018]And you seek to fuck these FKK girls who may stay at your extra room? Or you negotiate for 50 euro per 30 min? LOL!
They got pimps for occasion like this anyways, now is the time pimps are doing his work of I care for you kinda BS, so she later these girls will go back to FKK once it reopen to suck our dick and suck our 50 euro per 30 min LOL! But it is win win situation for us mongers and pimps, not so much for girls, but they don't realize that LOL![/QUOTE]Reduced rent. Then its legal. Same what man and wife does. You know, the standard model.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2441210]Reduced rent. Then its legal. Same what man and wife does. You know, the standard model.[/QUOTE]Hmmm whatta kind non intentional gesture by you LOL!
But let pimps handle that one or you can opt as one, more kinder one LOL!
Wife and a man does? With tute in FKK. That is hard to believe for both sides LOL!
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[QUOTE=DenHaag;2441205]I am much surprised that you Sirioja, from France, who travel so much in Germany, does not know that Saarland, the province right on the border with France and on the main route to Frankfurt is in complete lockdown.
This is strange to me.[/QUOTE]From Paris, I usually enter in Germany through Luxemburg. Around Sarrebrucken don't attract me much. Few German friends I have, tell me they can move quite free in their place, when I suffer from lack of freedom at the moment in France, even I can move for my job. I didn't go to Germany since 15 March when I left Sharks, but as soon possible I will return.
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[QUOTE=PunterWanderer;2441189][URL]http://www.healthdata.org/news-release/new-covid-19-forecasts-europe-italy-spain-have-passed-peak-their-epidemics-uk-early-its[/URL]
According to this forecast, the pandemic has peaked in Italy last week, while Spain should peak this week. Deaths in Germany are expected to peak in the third week of April.
I guess that from mid-May things are going to gradually get back to normal.[/QUOTE]German doctors say to wait for the peak wave, but I really wish Germany to have less deaths than France, too many in France, even less than Spain or Italy. North Italy say to go better since few days, I m happy for them. Loving and taking care of old parents should not kill.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2441207]I call them optimistic assumptions.
The virus has mutated at least 40 times already. And those are only figures from samples made on Iceland! Globally I am sure you can at least multiply that by 10!
Basically, even if a person gets well from one strain out of those 40, he or she still has 39 chances left of getting sick!
And vaccines? Well, with this mutation rate, are hardly worth more than the vials they are kept in!
The different death rates in different countries can probably be ascribed to the various different mutations as well. And give it 6 more months, we might have 10 000 mutations. If only 1% of these are worse than for example the one we saw in northern Italy, or the one currently killing 20-year olds in New York, we're going to be in trouble for a very long time! Icelandic people who attended a footballmatch in England and aquired the virus there had a total of 7 different strains of the virus. So this thing will be very elusive. And we have absolutely no idea how this will end! Nobody does!
Cheers![/QUOTE]Death rates is what is important and it is merely if the country has good medical infrastructure and organization, but it took me as surprise how many European nations are doing horribly saving people in hospital, I thought their medical infrastructure is top level, but it clearly is not.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2441227]German doctors say to wait for the peak wave, but I really wish Germany to have less deaths than France, too many in France, even less than Spain or Italy. North Italy say to go better since few days, I m happy for them. Loving and taking care of old parents should not kill.[/QUOTE]I was surprised because I thought Europe has good level of medical infrastructure, but it clearly did not by the fact we are seeing now.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2441225]From Paris, I usually enter in Germany through Luxemburg. Around Sarrebrucken don't attract me much. Few German friends I have, tell me they can move quite free in their place, when I suffer from lack of freedom at the moment in France, even I can move for my job. I didn't go to Germany since 15 March when I left Sharks, but as soon possible I will return.[/QUOTE]I just read that the government even stopped people now from jogging during day, if this is true, it is really bit too much, I mean to stay inside all day must be too harsh.