Pattaya Reports

Before someone beats me to it and I'm sure there are a few that have the urge to say it?

Can we start a " Indians in Thailand " thread?

Just joking fellas!

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1650114]Yea man, totally get it, I was thinking of short trip end of Jan as well since a girl I met randomly (she gave me a lift) and works in a salon is trying to sweeten the deal. But then again can't decide and might just be stuck with just one girl for the 3 days that I am there which would be horrific.

You will understand the moment you get onto walking street / beach road. So if you are an Indian (from America or wherever) and travelling with Indians in a group let's say anything more than one will only hurt your case (fly solo), you aren't going to be allowed into most Go-Gos and a few bars. However, if you travel alone or with 'falang' friends, it should be no problem and you won't even notice the discrimination.

Yep, happens all the time and some of the local girls have picked up the typical Indian greeting and a few lines of our local cinema and make it a point to sing it out. Not sure if its them just being funny or making fun of us. Anyways, doesn't matter much, it is a fun place nevertheless, lots of options even when denied.[/QUOTE]Guys,

I have returned to 16 " happy" trips with the LOS, in spite of being shown the palm, and the occassional cold stare at the door. I have realized that the thai people are very friendly and not racist. It is" management policy" that has been framed over many undesirable incidents involving our countrymen. Any flight in has at least one boisterous group who will surely leave a bad taste in some mamasans mouth soon, adding another red flag to the above policy!

Yes, the "decent" monger is conspicuous by travelling solo. And sought after too, but only if he is considerate and generous.

Over the many trips the phone nos in my mobile secret folder has grown, reference by ref, and the go-go crawl is only a formality.

So, as a holiday venue for the "decent" monger, pattaya is heaven, if you are a VIP where it matters. Ignore the bars with the policy, move on, enjoy the music, food and build up your contacts- I am ready to give you a head start, PM me.

NM.

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1650237]This is not only the case in Thailand. I have been coming to Indonesia since 1991 ..
Regards,

Ko.[/QUOTE]I am surprised to learn the situation is the same in Indonesia (Jakarta), because whilst I was in Bali, I noticed that the locals quite like Indians and I attributed that to them being Hindu (just like a majority of Indians) and having similar religious practices. May be I just saw it from one perspective. I do understand what you mean, a group of Indians tend to become a rowdy bunch soon and they will make it a point to be loud and disrespectful towards non-Indians (and this happens in many countries).

[QUOTE=NuMonger;1650269]

So, as a holiday venue for the "decent" monger, pattaya is heaven, if you are a VIP where it matters. Ignore the bars with the policy, move on, enjoy the music, food and build up your contacts- I am ready to give you a head start, PM me.

NM.[/QUOTE]I think this topic gets done to death every time someone reports that they were denied entry at a particular place, I report on that quite often but only to warn ISG brethren. But being denied is no secret (I too attribute it to management and not to the girls) and like you said you just move on and build your contact database by hunting in places that are fine with us.

[QUOTE=OfficialKnight;1649981]Sorry I'm completely a newbie but when you say "groups of Indians have almost no access" could you elaborate on that please? I'm an Indian American wanted to plan my first trip to Thailand so I'm just wondering.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Don't worry my friend, basically thai people hate everybody not only indians. Together with japanese are the most racist in the world. There are body massages in Bangkok (Pertchburi road) where "only Asian are allowed" . Many regular places in Pattaya like Crocodile Farm or Pattaya Park etc. Etc. Got two prices, one for thai and one for "farangs". "Thai rak Thai" ("thai loves thai") was the name of the political party leading the nation for years. No chance to have any normal relationship with locals that is not a matter of money.

About Indians, if you go to Bangkok there are places like CM2 Discoteque or Spasso fully loaded with Russians chiks and Hi-so local prostitutes, they seem to prefer Indians, Arabs and Russians. Maybe they got some skills about new economy, they know where the big money is.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1649618]Marco, I respectfully disagree. I'm sure there are a lot of girls there that meet that description. But I've had a great time there. I had an amazing threesome with some girls from there in May and hooked up with two great girls form there during my August trip. One I must have fucked 6-7 times and she stayed with me until 5 PM the next day (and never even mentioned money. Though I paid her 1500). The other was among the top 3 hottest girls I have ever bedded and gave great GFE including CIM. Check my past reports for details.

Does that mean the place is a sure thing? Of course not! I've also had nights there where I haven't been able to find anyone I liked or clicked with. But its easy to just move on and there are so many other options close by if you strike out.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Yes I believe you had great time. In May. Try to go there during the high season, (December to beg. Of April) , situation might be different. You said you fucked a girl 6 - 7 times in one night and she didn't asked you money for. So, unless your name is Superman, I believe you must be a good looking young fellow. This can happen, and it's exactly what I was talking about. Insomnia could be a perfect place for a young guy especially if he looks good. You can find girls having a big sponsor already so they can choose customers and refuse many others. The typical Insomnia's customer consists of:

1) Wannabe young Thai boxer (mostly French / Algerians).

2) Wannabe muscled tattooed gangsters (north Europe -Australia).

3) Wannabe cool DJ's look like (UK / Europe).

All these folks got in common one thing: They think ages and good look will protect them from the formula "no money no honey".

You can find a girl deciding to fuck a guy just for pleasure but this is very rare and can happen just one time. Most of the time (100 %) "don't asking money " is just tactics. They are investing in the guy. Once he'll be in love, non chance for him to survive. I saw so many.

[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1650335]Yes I believe you had great time. In May. Try to go there during the high season, (December to beg. Of April) , situation might be different. You said you fucked a girl 6 - 7 times in one night and she didn't asked you money for. So, unless your name is Superman, I believe you must be a good looking young fellow. This can happen, and it's exactly what I was talking about. Insomnia could be a perfect place for a young guy expecially if he looks good. You can find girls having a big sponsor already so they can choose customers and refuse many others. The typical Insomnia's customer consists of:

1) Wannabe young thai boxer (mostly french / algerians).

2) Wannabe muscled tattoed gangsters (north europe -Australia).

3) Wannabe cool DJ's look like (UK / Europe).

All these folks got in common one thing: They think ages and good look will protect them from the formula "no money no honey".

You can find a girl deciding to fuck a guy just for pleasure but this is very rare and can happen just one time. Most of the time (100 %) "don't asking money " is just tacticts. They are investing in the guy. Once he'll be in love, non chance for him to survive. I saw so many.[/QUOTE]I am always amazed at guys who think these young Thai girls are in love with them and have been waiting for their old ass all their lives.

If you really want to test your true love, go home one day and tell her you don't have anymore allowance money.
Best just to enjoy the ride and not take anything to serious.

[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1650335]Yes I believe you had great time. In May. Try to go there during the high season, (December to beg. Of April) , situation might be different. You said you fucked a girl 6 - 7 times in one night and she didn't asked you money for. So, unless your name is Superman, I believe you must be a good looking young fellow. This can happen, and it's exactly what I was talking about. Insomnia could be a perfect place for a young guy expecially if he looks good. You can find girls having a big sponsor already so they can choose customers and refuse many others. The typical Insomnia's customer consists of:

1) Wannabe young thai boxer (mostly french / algerians).

2) Wannabe muscled tattoed gangsters (north europe -Australia).

3) Wannabe cool DJ's look like (UK / Europe).

All these folks got in common one thing: They think ages and good look will protect them from the formula "no money no honey".

You can find a girl deciding to fuck a guy just for pleasure but this is very rare and can happen just one time. Most of the time (100 %) "don't asking money " is just tacticts. They are investing in the guy. Once he'll be in love, non chance for him to survive. I saw so many.[/QUOTE]Well I will be there in high season (end of December) so I will have a chance to test your proposition out.

Yes he guys at Insomnia are mostly douches and I try to stay as clear of them as I can. I am not much into clubs for that and other reasons. When I do go I go in there in hunt mode. I I'd a girl. Approach. Buy a drink or two and warm her up and then have her out of there and back to my pad ASAP.

I am under no illusions that I am some kind of Brad Pitt look alike an that the ladies are in love with me. The only thing I have in common with Mr Pitt is that I am closer in age to him than to the guys you describe. But I do try and take care of myself: appearance, hygiene, the way I dress so that I am attractive to the girls also. I also have an outgoing and friendly personality and try to enjoy my time with them beyond just sex: laughing joking and just plain having fun.

I know this is not why they are going with me. But I think it does lead to better service if they are not revolted by the guy that is on top of them humping away. LOL.

No money no honey is the iron law and it applies to most girls everywhere, not only Pattaya. I know that the girl who did not ask money was expecting some, and that if I did not give it to her she would either be pissed or assume that I was in for a longtime relationship and she'd get a bigger payday later on down the road.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-V.

And again, I don't understand people paying a Thai prostitute for LT. What the hell you want to do with a Thai working girl more than a couple of hours? Why should I let her sleep with me after an hour of sex? Probably I'm an old school dirty monger but I don't give them money for socialize but for them to leave afterwards. No conversation with them. Don't need to fuck the same girl 10 times in one day. They're so boring.

[QUOTE=TellAll;1650339]If you really want to test your true love, go home one day and tell her you don't have anymore allowance money.
[b]Best just to enjoy the ride and not take anything to serious.[/b][/QUOTE]A couple of months ago I reported on a chick who rents apartments and when I met her she said she wasn't like all the other girls and that she doesn't go with men for money. Well one morning I was leaving her house and she held her hand out and asked for money for shopping. I told her no. Haven't heard from her since.

On the other hand there are chicks who I have known for years who have still not asked me for 1 baht. I don't get too attached to anybody. I know women come and go and sometimes they even come back. (Just recently started back talking to a girlfriend from 30 years ago in 8th grade.)

If you are about money let me know up front. But don't portray yourself as one thing and turn out to be another.

I arrived early Thursday morning, and promptly collapse on the hotel bed after a 30 HR journey. This is my first time in Thailand. Thursday night I wandered around WS, and went into Angelwitch. It was not crowded. I liked the choreographed erotic dance shows. Was approached by 2 dancers, unfortunately not to my liking. I only found one dancer I liked. I wasn't in a buying mood due to a headache. I did strike up a conversation with one of the bar maids and she kept me company. After the show ended, the place emptied out, (It was getting close to 1a.) I wandered WS some more and eventually made it to Beach Rd. Saw a few attractive SW's. First impressions: a lot of these gals are SERIOUSLY inked up.

I was feeling a little more charged up Friday. Made it to LK Metro, I wanted to checkout Crystals and Destiny Agogo due to previous positive reports. Only saw one Crystals gal I found attractive. There was none of the raunchiness Uncle V had previously reported. None of the dancers approached me. Had one beer and went into Destiny. It was deader than Crystals at 9p. Again no dancers approached me. One beer and out the door I went.

Action Oriented had mentioned the Telephone Bar as being raunch central, (I like Raunch, :D ) it's a BJ Bar. It's no where near WS, located in an out of the way place. About 3 Km from LK Metro. I had to call the place to give the moto taxi directions. Going in, I knew what to expect, as I had seen their Facebook page. I wasn't looking for looks, but talent. It has an Old red Brit telephone booth as it's entrance. You get buzzed in. It's smaller than I imagined. 7 ladies present of various ages, 3 were occupied. Slightly older gal sat me on the bar. Bought her a LD, and as a reward she lowered her tube top. I grabbed her ass, and it was nice that she was panty-less. Like AO mentioned, the festivities commence at the bar, in front of everyone. We eventually moved into the back room, where she proceeded to show me her skills. Total cost 1350 baht, drinks included. LD's are 300, BJ is 500, FS is 700. Here's the bad thing of going there late, no moto taxi will come to it. My gal drove me to a spot nearby where there were moto taxis. Telephone is open 1p to 1a according to my gal. However, their flyer states it opens at 9a. Two shifts cover the hours. There were 3 younger gals working while I was there. I'll go back and check them and the day shift out. They have a VIP card that gives you first free drink and 5% off. Prepay it, 10K or 20k baht, gives you 20% off, (crazy!) I'll BE Back!

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1650385]I arrived early Thursday morning, and promptly collapse on the hotel bed after a 30 HR journey. This is my first time in Thailand. Thursday night I wandered around WS, and went into Angelwitch. It was not crowded. I liked the choreographed erotic dance shows. Was approached by 2 dancers, unfortunately not to my liking. I only found one dancer I liked. I wasn't in a buying mood due to a headache. I did strike up a conversation with one of the bar maids and she kept me company. After the show ended, the place emptied out, (It was getting close to 1a.) I wandered WS some more and eventually made it to Beach Rd. Saw a few attractive SW's. First impressions: a lot of these gals are SERIOUSLY inked up.

I was feeling a little more charged up Friday. Made it to LK Metro, I wanted to checkout Crystals and Destiny Agogo due to previous positive reports. Only saw one Crystals gal I found attractive. There was none of the raunchiness Uncle V had previously reported. None of the dancers approached me. Had one beer and went into Destiny. It was deader than Crystals at 9p. Again no dancers approached me. One beer and out the door I went.

Action Oriented had mentioned the Telephone Bar as being raunch central, (I like Raunch, :D ) it's a BJ Bar. It's no where near WS, located in an out of the way place. About 3 Km from LK Metro. I had to call the place to give the moto taxi directions. Going in, I knew what to expect, as I had seen their Facebook page. I wasn't looking for looks, but talent. It has an Old red Brit telephone booth as it's entrance. You get buzzed in. It's smaller than I imagined. 7 ladies present of various ages, 3 were occupied. Slightly older gal sat me on the bar. Bought her a LD, and as a reward she lowered her tube top. I grabbed her ass, and it was nice that she was panty-less. Like AO mentioned, the festivities commence at the bar, in front of everyone. We eventually moved into the back room, where she proceeded to show me her skills. Total cost 1350 baht, drinks included. LD's are 300, BJ is 500, FS is 700. Here's the bad thing of going there late, no moto taxi will come to it. My gal drove me to a spot nearby where there were moto taxis. Telephone is open 1p to 1a according to my gal. However, their flyer states it opens at 9a. Two shifts cover the hours. There were 3 younger gals working while I was there. I'll go back and check them and the day shift out. They have a VIP card that gives you first free drink and 5% off. Prepay it, 10K or 20k baht, gives you 20% off, (crazy!) I'll BE Back![/QUOTE]Glad you had a good time Java Man. And thanks for pointing out Telephone Bar. BJ bars aren't really my thing but it may be worth checking out.

I only really had one great nigh tat Crystals back in May. During my 2 visit in August it was super tame. Even when I hung out with the same girl that had been raunchy with me before. Maybe I was just lucky the first visit. Or maybe the policy has change there. Who knows?

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1650242]Before someone beats me to it and I'm sure there are a few that have the urge to say it?

Can we start a " Indians in Thailand " thread?

Just joking fellas!

Enjoy![/QUOTE]Good idea! That inspired a joke in me.

Q: How many Indians does it take to screw a Thai working girl?

A: Seven. One for each ear, One for each nostril, one for the butt, and one in the puss. That makes six, the seventh one is the one waiting for his turn in the corner of the room of course.(Usually the cook brought along from the homeland, for Indian food).

P.S.: I'm Indian.

P.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1650355]Well I will be there in high season (end of December) so I will have a chance to test your proposition out...[/QUOTE]I find the Hi- bar (I guess this is the correct name), entering on the left, much better than the disco upstairs. Better for 2 reason, first you can start hunting earlier, around 10.00 / 11.00 pm, no need to be up until 4 , 5 am. Second, you can see and chat with the girls in a better way. Upstairs is a mess. Too noisy, too crazy and too dark. Or maybe I'm just too old for that.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo]I am a slightly above average American punter in looks and spending capacity with a fair amount of experience who walks into popular Walking Street go go clubs with a good attitude and a sharp eye. I know the price structure before I walk through the door.[/QUOTE]I think many of the guys complaining about their go go club experiences should re-read this sentence a few times. To use a currently-fashionable cliche, when it comes to the go go club business model: "It is what it is." While there is much variation in location, decor, music and ambiance, all go go clubs are the same when it comes to pricing. They are at the upper end of the price range. If you know that going in and make your peace with it you'll be off to a good start like Mr. Bumpo. If you sit down already spun up over how much everything costs the girls will spot your sourpuss a mile away and you'll be at a disadvantage from the start. It's a variation on the Robber Baron line about how if you have to ask how much something costs you can't afford it. You're on holiday, for crying out loud. Pry your wallet open with a crow bar. If the price is really truly a deal breaker, look for your sweeties elsewhere.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo]If punters spent a little time with a girl getting to know her, having some fun, and trying to create a little chemistry the percentage of quality bar fines will dramatically increase and certain bad signs or tells would emerge that will warn a discerning punter off the girl if he is paying any attention. [/QUOTE]More good advice. Note the part about "having some fun." Visiting a go go club is usually a special treat. You've saved up for your holiday, planned it months in advance and kept up with the latest developments here. Once you finally sit down and let the Swedish House Mafia wash over you it's not going to kill you to let your hair down and have a good time. To use two more cliches, get out of your head and live in the moment. Ruminating over whatever emotional baggage keeps you awake back in Farang Land is only going to harsh your mellow. Be happy like Mr. Bumpo and the girls will respond in kind. As the Thais remind us, sanuk is good.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo]I find that all a couple shots do is loosen things up and creates a warm party vibe between me and the girls very conducive for having great sex later. If a couple of shots of Tequila has a negative effect on you then by all means cut that step out. You should still be able to get friendly with your girls, create a little chemistry while you are sizing her up, and looking for any tells before considering barfining her. Take your time, enjoy the hunt, and have a great time every step of the way are all still essential.[/QUOTE]To quotes the ads for spirits: "Enjoy responsibly." For most people having a few drinks acts as a social lubricant and increases the sanuk factor. It also adds a few baht to the bottom line for your prospective bar fine, the server, the mamasan and the club. And again, it marks you as a guy who is out to have a good time. You don't have to get sloppy drunk. You don't have to get hustled into spending big baht on silliness like ping pong balls or "ringing the bell." But you should let your hair down. If your head's in a bad place you'll come off as uptight at best and self-loathing at worst. No girl relishes the prospect of alone time with a dude who looks like he's about to get a root canal.

If you follow Mr. Bumpo's sage advice you'll enjoy your time in go go clubs regardless of whether you decide to leave with a girl. If you do find somebody who strikes you fancy, adhering to The Bumpo Method means you'll leave with a spring in your step and a hottie on your arm who is anxious to make you happy. Which, my friends, is why we patronize go go clubs.

Bunky

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1650385]I arrived early Thursday morning, and promptly collapse on the hotel bed after a 30 HR journey. This is my first time in Thailand. Thursday night I wandered around WS, and went into Angelwitch. It was not crowded. I liked the choreographed erotic dance shows. Was approached by 2 dancers, unfortunately not to my liking. I only found one dancer I liked. I wasn't in a buying mood due to a headache. I did strike up a conversation with one of the bar maids and she kept me company. After the show ended, the place emptied out, (It was getting close to 1a.) I wandered WS some more and eventually made it to Beach Rd. Saw a few attractive SW's. First impressions: a lot of these gals are SERIOUSLY inked up.

I was feeling a little more charged up Friday. Made it to LK Metro, I wanted to checkout Crystals and Destiny Agogo due to previous positive reports. Only saw one Crystals gal I found attractive. There was none of the raunchiness Uncle V had previously reported. None of the dancers approached me. Had one beer and went into Destiny. It was deader than Crystals at 9p. Again no dancers approached me. One beer and out the door I went.

Action Oriented had mentioned the Telephone Bar as being raunch central, (I like Raunch, :D ) it's a BJ Bar. It's no where near WS, located in an out of the way place. About 3 Km from LK Metro. I had to call the place to give the moto taxi directions. Going in, I knew what to expect, as I had seen their Facebook page. I wasn't looking for looks, but talent. It has an Old red Brit telephone booth as it's entrance. You get buzzed in. It's smaller than I imagined. 7 ladies present of various ages, 3 were occupied. Slightly older gal sat me on the bar. Bought her a LD, and as a reward she lowered her tube top. I grabbed her ass, and it was nice that she was panty-less. Like AO mentioned, the festivities commence at the bar, in front of everyone. We eventually moved into the back room, where she proceeded to show me her skills. Total cost 1350 baht, drinks included. LD's are 300, BJ is 500, FS is 700. Here's the bad thing of going there late, no moto taxi will come to it. My gal drove me to a spot nearby where there were moto taxis. Telephone is open 1p to 1a according to my gal. However, their flyer states it opens at 9a. Two shifts cover the hours. There were 3 younger gals working while I was there. I'll go back and check them and the day shift out. They have a VIP card that gives you first free drink and 5% off. Prepay it, 10K or 20k baht, gives you 20% off, (crazy!) I'll BE Back![/QUOTE]You can also try La Carre Blanc or Club4 just off 3rd Road not as far as the Telephone! Pretty much the same thing and price?