German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=MrHo;2441268]I just read that the government even stopped people now from jogging during day, if this is true, it is really bit too much, I mean to stay inside all day must be too harsh.[/QUOTE]I can go where and when I want with my job allowance, but for a free bird like me, this is not freedom, I have to show a paper from company, allowance on my phone. When I see NL and Sweden under sun and their beautiful women outside, I m jealous at the moment. If I criticize french government about french economy, but I don't about virus crisis because I know they try to do how they can to have less deaths possible and not worse than US or UK, but I know French people are suffering from confined. In US, they don't respect confined, being in central park on last week end to take sun rather than staying in small apartments in Mainhattan.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2441260]I was surprised because I thought Europe has good level of medical infrastructure, but it clearly did not by the fact we are seeing now.[/QUOTE]As far I know, France may be where most foreigners from all over the world come to be cured, I think much more than those going to Japan, but there are explanations behind figures. Italy is very interesting for this about Italian society with poor South and people going to work in rich North, but when confined, returning to their home and family, usually living with old mother and father, but spreading virus from North and killing people they wanted to take care of. In France, all started from a religious meeting with 2000 people very close to Basel and German border, people spreading all over France when returning at home. In district 93 Seine Saint Denis North East of Paris, the worst for virus, because of poverty, the poorest in North of France, the most difficult place to respect confined, so the highest deaths figures with not so many hospitals beds there because not attractive place. Also 80% deaths are more than 75 yo. But I agree for too many deaths from this virus.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2441260]I was surprised because I thought Europe has good level of medical infrastructure, but it clearly did not by the fact we are seeing now.[/QUOTE]Europe has the best healthcare system in the world, with the Lombardy region in north of Italy being one of the top ones. However, no system can easily support a crisis like this one, where hundreds of thousands of people get sick all at the same time. For example, Boris Johnson started the lockdown in UK as soon as he realised that even Lombardy health system went into crisis, which he also conders one of the best in the world as they have twice as many intensive care units than the UK Health system.

We will be back in the clubs, hand-in-hand with our girls, sooner than we think! Let's save money now, so that we can come back with a bang when they re-open!

Rock.

[QUOTE=PunterWanderer;2441184]In Italy, until 1958 there were 560 brothels, legally authorised by the State, which made soaring profits from it and implemented mandatory, regular health checks. Over the last years parties discussed whether introducing RLD, restoring the older model, or just adopting the German model. However, I don't think they will change the legal framework of prostitution nor will they reopen brothels anytime soon. Which is a pity, also given the dire state of Italian public finances.

This is indeed what they normally do in Italy.[/QUOTE]I think Italian now are too unorganized to organize such business model like in Germany, unfortunately. But wow 560 brothels in 1950's? So there was golden era before our recent golden era of prostitution.

We lived golden era let say around 2006 to 2017 till new law was enforce, it still is good though, but back then was real golden era, just 50 euro or 60 euro per 30 min got us BBBJ and sex with stunners. Now you still can but it is more like 80 euro to 100 euro per 30 min for stunners unless she is very new to the club then she still did not pick up the tactic.

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2441016]I love the concept of FKKs and have been a regular monger for 15 years now and it's my secret which only my very closest friends know about in real life (of course, all my ISG friends do!) but I have gotten to thinking that in this age of LGBTQQ+ that we now live in (especially in the West) why some businessman has not thought of opening a similar club like an FKK but for women or bi or gay guys? Or maybe such places exist and I don't know about them because you have to be lgbt or something to know about them?

I would have thought a city with a night scene like Berlin which has many gay clubs would have something like this or San Francisco.[/QUOTE]It would probably be too niche to make money. Women and gay men have significantly less difficulty finding sex for free. Part of the reason is that women are more selective, while heterosexual and gay men are not that selective. They've done studies on Tinder, and found that men swipe right 46 percent of the time, whereas women swipe right only 14 percent of the time. That means a woman of average looks has a much better chance of having free sex with an attractive man, than the inverse.

Men in general are primarily visual. When men decide whether they want to have sex with a woman, 90-100 percent of that decision is based on her optics. For GF, that same male might base 85 percent of his decision on optics. For marriage, maybe 80 percent. On the other hand, women use a more holistic evaluation scale. This author and psychologist cites a study on how much fashion and style affect how a woman perceives a man's sexual value and how it comparably has no effect on how a woman perceives a man's sexual value:

[QUOTE]"No man has ever uttered the following words: 'My god you've got a juicy butt and I'd love to have sex with you but you're not exhibiting cues of ambition'"

https://youtu.be/54v1dMZcD8M?t=913.[/QUOTE]I have only ever been to a gay club once in my life, and I will say it was eye-opening, and honestly disgusting. I was told there was back room where men would hook up and that this was common in most gay clubs. In other words, normal gay clubs are de facto sex clubs, where men do not have to pay. If there is a significant inequality in terms of looks, some men would have to pay. But, in general, I suspect if there were two identical twin brothers with the same income, and one was gay and the other straight, the gay brother would have a significant easier time obtaining free sex.

What degree of return to brothels do you guys expect? Will there be more or fewer women when things return? Will there be more or fewer punters when things return?

I am quite confident that in Europe at least the Covid19 is starting to bend the curve and it s beginning to flatten in places like Germany and Switzerland (even Italy and Spain which have the most cases). This makes me hopeful that in Switzerland we might be able to not extend our lockdown beyond 30 April and then things will slowly start to return to somewhat normal (but not total for a while). But if it means only X people allowed in a restaurant at a time with tables 2 meters apart, only 50 people in a kino and so on that's at least much better than now. So maybe in May Globe will reopen along with Aphrodisia and I'm sure the same will be true in Germany but maybe even a week or two earlier.

I also agree that once the clubs open there will be people going mad to get back in. The girls will have a field day! It might also end the 'princess' attitude of some of them! How about in Austria? I had planned in my Easter holidays to go to Maxim and Babylon in Vienna and Klagenfurt (thus completing my visit to the top clubs in Europe if not the world along with Aphro and Globe) but that won't happen however we might be able to go back sometime in May.

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2441341]What degree of return to brothels do you guys expect? Will there be more or fewer women when things return? Will there be more or fewer punters when things return?[/QUOTE]I would think that there would be loads of girls returning all at once and not taking a holiday for quite sometime. They'll want to make up for lost time. And I would assume the clubs will be busy with horny punters too.

A few girls might not return though. I was messaging a girl who's home in Brasov now, and she took this crisis as a sign that it's time to retire and move on to something else.

I texted a NRW saunaclub bartender today, and she told me that her bosses informed the staff that the most realistic estimate for when the club would be back open is September. In my opinion, things change daily, and it's way too early to say anything definitive regarding potential dates for reopening. I'd like to think they would open before September, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2441345]I am quite confident that in Europe at least the Covid19 is starting to bend the curve and it s beginning to flatten in places like Germany and Switzerland (even Italy and Spain which have the most cases). This makes me hopeful that in Switzerland we might be able to not extend our lockdown beyond 30 April and then things will slowly start to return to somewhat normal (but not total for a while). But if it means only X people allowed in a restaurant at a time with tables 2 meters apart, only 50 people in a kino and so on that's at least much better than now. So maybe in May Globe will reopen along with Aphrodisia and I'm sure the same will be true in Germany but maybe even a week or two earlier.

I also agree that once the clubs open there will be people going mad to get back in. The girls will have a field day! It might also end the 'princess' attitude of some of them! How about in Austria? I had planned in my Easter holidays to go to Maxim and Babylon in Vienna and Klagenfurt (thus completing my visit to the top clubs in Europe if not the world along with Aphro and Globe) but that won't happen however we might be able to go back sometime in May.[/QUOTE]This timeline seems a bit too optimistic to me. Germany has nearly 110,000 cases, 71 K active and daily new cases are still slightly less than 2000 to 3000. The bending of the curve so to peak may happen with regards to active cases if they cure a bunch of existing Corona patients. Even so, it is 70,000. China, the country as a whole, sort of went back to work and relaxed when # active cases was in the 15,000 range in early / mid March. But first, it was only ex-Wuhan and in China most of the infections were in Wuhan. And when ex-Wuhan China relaxed on social distancing, many people still didnot return to work. Factories were running at less than 50% of capacity upto mid March.

I am not aware that most of DE cases are concentrated in one single region and DE is a smaller country area wise relative to China. To relax distancing to such an extent that they will open fuck clubs when they will still have more than 60,000 to 70,000 active cases is way too optimistic.

And all of this assumes new cases will not accelerate at all. In the last week alone, on several days new cases were 3,000 to 4,000. That has the potential to actually increase the active infections curve, not bend it.

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2441341]What degree of return to brothels do you guys expect? Will there be more or fewer women when things return? Will there be more or fewer punters when things return?[/QUOTE]Difficult to say.

Many Romanian girls are stranded in Germany.

But one thing is for sure. They will be desperate for earning money when clubs open.

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2441345]I am quite confident that in Europe at least the Covid19 is starting to bend the curve and it s beginning to flatten in places like Germany and Switzerland (even Italy and Spain which have the most cases). This makes me hopeful that in Switzerland we might be able to not extend our lockdown beyond 30 April and then things will slowly start to return to somewhat normal (but not total for a while). But if it means only X people allowed in a restaurant at a time with tables 2 meters apart, only 50 people in a kino and so on that's at least much better than now. So maybe in May Globe will reopen along with Aphrodisia and I'm sure the same will be true in Germany but maybe even a week or two earlier.

I also agree that once the clubs open there will be people going mad to get back in. The girls will have a field day! It might also end the 'princess' attitude of some of them! How about in Austria? I had planned in my Easter holidays to go to Maxim and Babylon in Vienna and Klagenfurt (thus completing my visit to the top clubs in Europe if not the world along with Aphro and Globe) but that won't happen however we might be able to go back sometime in May.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately more deaths yesterday in Italy than days before, France is on deaths peak wave since Friday, German doctors say to wait coming peak wave, just to tell about Western Europe, not finished yet, and even Austria plan to reopen on 14 April with masks for everybody, Germany is thinking for 19, but I doubt for risky for health brothels where only one infected could make so many babies so fast. A girl can infect 5 guys a day, who can infect others girls, and in other clubs. I think more safety to go if already infected and cured, because sex with gloves and mask would not be enjoyable for me. Wait and see for when will really reopen, but then, I m sure many girls will return fast for money, because I don t think big money for few who try to make a business in Romania. I often heard they lost their money and had to come back to be fucked for new money.

[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2441370]I texted a NRW saunaclub bartender today, and she told me that her bosses informed the staff that the most realistic estimate for when the club would be back open is September. In my opinion, things change daily, and it's way too early to say anything definitive regarding potential dates for reopening. I'd like to think they would open before September, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.[/QUOTE]I'm afraid this information, I think from GT / LR, could be quite realistic, because virus is still everywhere and brothels are very risky in this crisis, with guys returning at home, to wife and children. Brothels are real playfield for virus and can spread very fast to relatives.

[QUOTE=Arnold15;2441372]Difficult to say.

Many Romanian girls are stranded in Germany.

But one thing is for sure. They will be desperate for earning money when clubs open.[/QUOTE]About what you write, how many Romanians do You think stayed blocked in Germany when they can t make money, when I know corruption is so easy in Romania.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2441315]I think Italian now are too unorganized to organize such business model like in Germany, unfortunately. But wow 560 brothels in 1950's? So there was golden era before our recent golden era of prostitution.

We lived golden era let say around 2006 to 2017 till new law was enforce, it still is good though, but back then was real golden era, just 50 euro or 60 euro per 30 min got us BBBJ and sex with stunners. Now you still can but it is more like 80 euro to 100 euro per 30 min for stunners unless she is very new to the club then she still did not pick up the tactic.[/QUOTE]You never heard about famous maisons closes we had in France until end of second war, when France was FKK land.