Kyiv

[QUOTE=DavidJung;1890592] I try hard on Social network to get some real armature girls. So I got more than 100 contact list before visit Kiev. Most of girls are college students. Ages from 18 to 21.[/QUOTE]Can you share with us, the modus operandi of contacting girls on social network? Any particular website? If you are using facebook, what are you putting in the search function, to get them?

Hows their English when you write to them?

Are all of them looking for money or are they trying to act as if they want something else etc etc?

Hi guys,

With my schedule, I can only go to Kiev in last week November or first week December. I know it will be cold and negative temperature. But how does it really feel? Is the weather really nasty? And how does one move in such weather?

Does UBER exist in Kiev? How are taxi prices in Kiev and are they safe?

What are the things to do in Kiev in day time especially in trying to meet non-pros; without previous contact.

[QUOTE=Britisher;1890733]

What are the things to do in Kiev in day time especially in trying to meet non-pros; without previous contact.[/QUOTE]Hunt on K street. You will be amazed at how receptive and eager college age girls are to chatting with foreigners. I never pulled a hooker but the girls were open to sharing their Whats App number and taking fotos. It's the first step in possibly finding a sponsoret. If you can't manage to go up to a girl and ask if she's from Kiev, just stay home.

[QUOTE=Britisher;1890733]Hi guys,

With my schedule, I can only go to Kiev in last week November or first week December. I know it will be cold and negative temperature. But how does it really feel? Is the weather really nasty? And how does one move in such weather?

Does UBER exist in Kiev? How are taxi prices in Kiev and are they safe?

What are the things to do in Kiev in day time especially in trying to meet non-pros; without previous contact.[/QUOTE]Kiev in late November / early December can actually be quite clement. Not a lot different from England actually. Last year there was very little snow before Christmas. Even when there is snow and cold there's no problem with transport. The problem is that the girls won't be on the streets and won't be wearing lovely short dresses. Aah summer in Kiev!

[QUOTE=DudeNextDoor;1890424]Since the visa will not be a problem for European travels anymore, they will line up guys to pay for their passport fees.

I go to Ukrain almost every month. I invite the ones over to my current city Istanbul (no visa needed) or to a resort near Antalya during summer. They all say they do not have passport. They need Money for a passport. Soon I find out most of them have passports already. At this point, I play along with their game and ejoy myself as much as I can. Never believe what a Ukranian chick tells you. They have plenty of fairy tales to tell as long as you are willing to listen.

Once all the good looking ones venture out to Europe, we will end up with the below avarage girls.[/QUOTE]I'm from the USA but am currently living in Germany. I typically go to Ukraine only once a year.

When I was in the USA, I invited one UA girl to Croatia and to Dominican Repbulic and once in Germany, I invited another UA girl to Antalya, Turkey. They were less than half my age. I paid for all the travel cost for them but nothing more.

Both of them already had passports and did not lie about it. I guess I have been lucky.

Day 3.

I was so tired for consecutive sex for 2 days, take some rest in my apartment, but I don't want waste my time, arrange to meet new girls. One tip for not wasting your time for you guys. As I mentioned, most of Ukrainian girls are not punctual. So don't trust girls to come on time unless you reconfirm before meeting many times. And better to make a backup plan. I arrange to meet a girl name Bashynska who declined my offer for meeting with intimacy but allow me to meet as a friend. She was very hot and speaks very good English, so I decide to meet her for lunch. Actually, she was kind of uptown girl. Differ from other girls I already meet before. Possessing kind of royal and gentle attitude. She studies Economy and international relationship in Shevchenko University. The prestigious university in Ukraine. We had great conversation about many different fields and I really wanted to get her. But you only allow me to have a date but no sex. After couple of hours of date, I send her back. After that, I arrange to meet new girl. Olivia. She was not a college girl. Kind of semi-pro, single mom. 20 year old 164 cm, 45 kg. Very slime and firm body. She was an amateur boxer. I asked her to bring some weed and she brought some for free. She didn't speak any English. All of our conversation was made through google translator. She fucked like a crazy horse. Especially when she rides on me. We spend 3 hours together and I send her back with 1000.

I supposed to meet new college girl for dinner, but she didn't turn out. So I send many urgent messages from my list. One girl responded later evening, she came to my apartment directly. She came to my apartment around 11 pm. College girl, 19 YO, 167,52,kg size 2. Score 7 8. Speak fairly good English, we drank some whisky which I bought from duty free shop, her blowjob was fantastic. I think all Ukrainian girls do deep throat blowjob as a courtesy. All individual blowjob has different pattern and own skills. I really enjoyed it. Her tits are very firm and hard. Great shape. I stated with condom but as play time prolonged, she allow me to do bareback. I was really unable to finish with condom. After good and long sensual session, we feel asleep. I hold her in my chest and we slept like a real lover. Next morning, we had one more session to wake our body up and I send her back with 1800. She didn't even ask money before meeting, just asked me to help some money. I had not enough currency so I gave her only 1800. She was very happy about what I gave her. She said she has one regular sponsor and meet once in a week. I didn't ask her how much she would get from him. I think many college girls from outside Kiev have a sponsor relationship.

Day 4.

I participated in Chernobyl tour in the morning. Came back around 7 pm.

Tour was great. It is really worth to visit once.

I arranged to meet a girl for dinner. But she didn't show up time and she insisted she want came to my place directly due to heavy rain. She was the hottest in I ever meet in Kiev. 9 10 rating.

She looks like exactly Paris Hilton. 170 cm, 49 kg, size 2. And blonde. Speaking good English.

Her families are in Berlin. She will leave Ukraine as soon as finish College in here. She was club lover. From Fri to Sun she goes club for dance. I'm sure she must be one of the hottest girl in Kiev club. We had few drinks and talked. She was hot but her attitude was kind of *****. She was very hesitated to having sex with me. But finally we did. But it was just missionary fuck. No kiss and no blowjob. And she was keep nagging to finish early. After finish session, she wanted to go home and would come back after school. I promised her to give 3000 for staying overnight but she wanted to go home around 12 pm. So I gave her 1000. She was little upset and left my apartment without a word. I was so tired and fell asleep after she left.

Day 5.

I had a good walking around historical area in Kiev in the morning and take some rest for afternoon meeting.

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I meet new girl Lilia. She was type writer. But I didn't know such a job still existed on this earth. Anyway, she speaks good English and no problem to communicate. I booked an Opera ticket that night so I wanted to with her. But she told me that she doesn't like to go opera and prefer to stay in my apartment. And she keep saying that she was tired and her answer and attitude was kind of negative. And she was late for an hour. I didn't want to waste my evening. So I send her back and gave her 200 for taxi. I enjoyed Opera by myself and send a message to first night girl Alina who keep sent me a message to see me again. We meet late evening and had a great session same as first night. She also allow me to come in her mouth. We drank a lot of alcohol and had a real good fun that night. She left home around 5 am to pick her friend up at the airport. It sound strange but we must go to pick her up because her best friend lives together and she hasn't got a key to enter her apartment. I gave her 1000 and she kissed me with smile and left.

Day 6.

I was so busy in the morning to looking for a property to buy in Kiev. I arranged two girls to meet afternoon and evening. But I still want to make a backup plan. So I turn on Mamba. As soon as I turn on mamba, several girls send me a message for meeting. But price was so ridiculous and I didn't want to meet a pro anymore. I sent several message to only good looking girl. One girl reply me with little bit of anger. Insisting she is not a prostitute and sending this kind of message is humiliating her and hurt her. However, she needs some money. What the fuck. What an irony? I assure her to meet later evening because I had to meet new girls for lunch. I meet a girl around 1 pm, her name was Katrina. 19 YO, 170 cm, 50 kg, size 3 and ginger. Actually, it was my first time to having sex with ginger. We had lunch at a French restaurant near Maidan. She hardly eat her dish. She said the dish was great but she don't want to eat. Most of Ukrainian girls I met hardly eat any food. They really try their best to keep their body slim. Even in sushi restaurant, they ate only for couple of slice of sushi and not eating anymore. She is full time university student and has a job after school. Working as a supermarket manager and get paid 3000 a month. I think this is kind of normal wages for girl for full time job. So gents don't pay too much to spoil these girls. She agreed to stay with me couple of hours for 1000. Her body was so great and almost perfect figure. Her blow job was great and I really love to watch her body. Her pussy and tits are perfect pink color. She really work on hard to make me cum. She allowed me to do anal without condom and let me cum inside her anal. It was great. I had such a wonderful time with her. She also has regular Turkish sponsor too, meeting once in a week, occasional trip to turkey or Egypt. I think it is very common to have a Turkish boyfriend or sponsor among Ukrainian college girls. I send her back with 1000 and she wanted to comeback after work.

I send a message again to a girl from mamba which I contact earlier today. She was keep decline my offer and finally decided to come for dinner. We meet around 7 pm and went sushi restaurant for dinner. During dinner she talk about her situation. Her parents live in Donetsk and they suffered from war and not able to send money to her. But she was wearing a decent cloth and she was the most beautiful girl I ever meet in Kiev. I'm sure she was 9 or 10. Looks like Amanda Seyfried. Perfect body shape. Blonde. She was too good to be true in front of me. I was so horny and eager to get her with any cost. But she decline to go with me. And she said, she came to here to meet to give a good impression about Ukrainian girl and not all Ukrainian girls are willing to have a sex for money. I was feeling sorry about this and let her go after dinner. I offered 10,000 her to stay with me but she decline. I was so puzzled. Why she came here to see me? What the hell she wants to do with me? She said, if I like her just pay her 2000. I decline to pay her without benefit. So she went back home. I was disappointed and came back to my apartment. I took some rest in my apartment and decide do go out for drink at Skybar. I never been to this place so I wanted to go. It was karaoke night and not many people were around. Few stunning girls with rich looking middle aged man were there. I sat alone on the big couch and order few drinks and cold dish for myself. All of sudden, I got message from Amanda looking girl. Finally she decide to stay with me for 4000, I accepted it. She was final year of police university and after one month, she will be an police officer and will be relocated to another city soon. She just need some money for one month cost of living urgently. So she needs money now. This is what she said. I was so happy to meet her. It was her first and last time to have a sex with men for money. She had no other choice right now. I took her in my apartment and I took her cloth off. Her body was just perfect. Smooth skin and firm tits. Wet and very tight pussy. It was amazing experience to have a sex with such a beautiful girl. She was the most beautiful girl to have a sex with in my life. I think she was naive and not much experienced to compare with other girls I met before in Kiev. With her beauty, everything was perfect and more than enough. She insists me not to cum inside her and we did bareback. I really enjoyed to play with her and didn't want finish early. But she wants me to finish soon, so I did cum finally. As soon as finish the session, she wanted go home early because she got a physical test early in the morning. I was so disappointed and let her go. But I didn't pay her 4000. I gave her 2000. She was little disappointed but agreed and left my apartment with satisfaction.

Well, this is the end of my Kiev report.

I met 10 girls during 6 night, fuck with 8 girls, and stay overnight with 3 girls.

All bareback and cum in mouth or cream pie.

For me, Kiev is only paradise on this earth.

I love to stay there as long as I can.

Gents be prepared before you go. Do not give any impression you want buy a girl.

Keep insist you want to have a real date and be gentle and treat them nicely as you try hard on your first date.

Good luck!

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When I read this kind of story it makes me laugh.

- " they are not pro. They not expect money. It's first time she told me. Bla bla. " Ukraine is the country where lie is an art of life. So all those they say is bullshit. I meet serious college girl in Kiev any will ever take money for sex. These girl are prostitute. They come with you only for money. Stop spreading false myth to satisfy your ego. You probably is over 40 near 50. You think girl at 18 who go with 50 years old man are not prostitute?

- lot of beautiful girl for 1000 gryvan? I must live in another city but beautiful girl 1000 caught at you. Maybe you should say cute girl. Beautiful for 1000 gryvna. Without proof is all words.

- consider you said mamba is full of pro. I must think you manage to find this girl in VK. Maybe any link to some profile of this girl would be interesting, in contrary your story is just a story. This is a monger forum, we exchange information not read poems. This girl are not virgin. After you they meet already lot of other man to survive.

- a suggestion. Ukraine is first country in Europe with AIDS. Spreading a lot in last years. Bareback with so many girl. Good luck man!

[QUOTE=DavidJung;1890903]Day 3.

I was so tired for consecutive sex for 2 days, take some rest in my apartment, but I don't want waste my time, arrange to meet new girls. One tip for not wasting your time for you guys. As I mentioned, most of Ukrainian girls are not punctual. So don't trust girls to come on time unless you reconfirm before meeting many times. And better to make a backup plan. I arrange to meet a girl name Bashynska who declined my offer for meeting with intimacy but allow me to meet as a friend. She was very hot and speaks very good English, so I decide to meet her for lunch. Actually, she was kind of uptown girl. Differ from other girls I already meet before. Possessing kind of royal and gentle attitude. She studies Economy and international relationship in Shevchenko University. The prestigious university in Ukraine. We had great conversation about many different fields and I really wanted to get her. But you only allow me to have a date but no sex. After couple of hours of date, I send her back. After that, I arrange to meet new girl. Olivia. She was not a college girl. Kind of semi-pro, single mom. 20 year old 164 cm, 45 kg. Very slime and firm body. She was an amateur boxer. I asked her to bring some weed and she brought some for free. She didn't speak any English...[/QUOTE]And then a lot of guys ask here in the forum-why the Ukrainian chickens have become so accessible and so bad to foreigners? I was here in 2008 and fucked 9-10 and now even 5-6 does not want to have kontakt. What's hell happened?

You spoil the reputation of all-important for as. Is like you there is a stereotype of an foreigner, dirty, deceitful low level man, who considers every dollar.

Your action is a shame even to Ukrainian bandit. Ukrainian even a thief or a bandit will feel ashamed of such an action. In the East of greed against women it is the most shameful for a man. Greed man in Russia.

You could give her in 2500 or 3000 but not only 2000. Why you promised her 4000 if you do not want to pay 4000? Why?

So there is no more trust to foreigners. I was born and raised in the Soviet Union.

Then I, as the son of a Pole went to Poland.

I perfectly speak Russian. You want me to tell you what is now the attitude towards foreigners. Due to the fact that there are guys like you.

Foreigner for to many Ukrainians girls now is cowardly lying greedy bastard / cowardly lying greedy. Now this girl will tell all their friends that it cheated on the 2000. 2000 she could easily find a local guy. No problem. In Kiev a lot of rich Ukrainian guys if girl cute and nice. No problem to find a local sponsor.

You spoil the reputation all Polish, Germany, Italian etc. guys.

[QUOTE=Britisher;1890733]Hi guys,

With my schedule, I can only go to Kiev in last week November or first week December. I know it will be cold and negative temperature. But how does it really feel? Is the weather really nasty? And how does one move in such weather?

Does UBER exist in Kiev? How are taxi prices in Kiev and are they safe?.[/QUOTE]Taxis there are totally safe, I never had a problem, my friends also don't, prizes. During night they bring you everywhere in city by 150 grivnas, during day: 100.

I never was in December, a friend of mine was and said me he was -22, totally horrible feeling, mucus literally freezing in his nose, but every year can be different.

[QUOTE=Ringudor;1891152]Taxis there are totally safe, I never had a problem, my friends also don't, prizes. During night they bring you everywhere in city by 150 grivnas, during day: 100.
[/QUOTE]NO, NO, NO.

Taxis are not totally safe. Be careful if you take a taxi in the street. Especially at the train station or at the airport.

Even the official "Zuhulyany" airport taxi or the former "Borispol" taxi tried to cheat customers.

And be sure that you have some change in your pocket. Not only 500 Grivna banknotes.

If you call a taxi = No real problem. Or use the Uklon taxi app. The taxi fare in the center is about 50-60 Grivna. The suburbs are more expensive.

If the girls are not professional they don't live in the center.

But it happens very often that the cheap taxi companies can't send you a taxi. Or they will offer a "Lux" car for more money.

Bad weather (for example with snow in the winter or heavy rain in the summer) = It's possible that no regular taxis are available for a few hours.

And in this situation taxi drivers "in the street" quote a minimum of 100 dollars if you have to go to the airport.

[QUOTE=Misterxxx;1891219]NO, NO, NO.

Taxis are not totally safe. Be careful if you take a taxi in the street. Especially at the train station or at the airport.

Even the official "Zuhulyany" airport taxi or the former "Borispol" taxi tried to cheat customers.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by not safe? Cheating in fares? I always accord price before trip, I never had a problem in 3 months there, my friends also don't. Maybe if you don't accord price can be cheated.

[QUOTE=LuisVega11;1891097]When I read this kind of story it makes me laugh.

- " they are not pro. They not expect money. It's first time she told me. Bla bla. " Ukraine is the country where lie is an art of life. So all those they say is bullshit. I meet serious college girl in Kiev any will ever take money for sex. These girl are prostitute. They come with you only for money. Stop spreading false myth to satisfy your ego. You probably is over 40 near 50. You think girl at 18 who go with 50 years old man are not prostitute?

- lot of beautiful girl for 1000 gryvan? I must live in another city but beautiful girl 1000 caught at you. Maybe you should say cute girl. Beautiful for 1000 gryvna. Without proof is all words.

- consider you said mamba is full of pro. I must think you manage to find this girl in VK. Maybe any link to some profile of this girl would be interesting, in contrary your story is just a story. This is a monger forum, we exchange information not read poems. This girl are not virgin. After you they meet already lot of other man to survive.

- a suggestion. Ukraine is first country in Europe with AIDS. Spreading a lot in last years. Bareback with so many girl. Good luck man![/QUOTE]I completely agree with you. This guy has such a bloated ego it must hurt quite considerably!

Perhaps he is a descendant of the brothers Grimm since he has a very vivid fantasy.

I would even consider the possibility that he never was in Kiev and pieced together his 'report' from information he found on this forum.

And the bareback claim is just plain ludicrous and downright dangerous.

We all look forward to the next tall tail from fantasyland.

Can't wait to hear more!

Was going to post that this report sounds fishy but someone beat me to it. First you contradict yourself by saying don't mention prostitution in your Mamba messages but then it seems like you did just this as you said some girls were offended by your offer. Also, it's highly doubtful that many women allowed bareback sex. Nice try though!

If this is true I would be very worried until tested. Also that is messed up you shorted the girl after you agreed to a price.

Some guys blame me to pay less than what I promised to pay before meeting. I agree with them the sum of money for staying overnight. Not short time. So had to pay less that what I had promised. If they stayed with me overnight, I would pay full amount money. I have no idea why some guys blame me about this issue. So all of you guys pay even a girl not keeping their promise?

I don't think you wouldn't. All of my story is true and not a fairy tail. Maybe I'm not that old as you guys. I'm only 32 year old and athletic figure, wearing neatly. Most of girl I meet couldn't figured out my age correctly. Presumed my age around 25 or 26. Also I always paid what I promised in the first position if they keep the promise.

I'm really happy to read all your doubtful comments. Which mean my experience in Kiev was exceptional and most of you guys didn't experienced that much.

I always tried my best on each girl I meet and never treated them as a prostitute. Maybe you guys just laugh at me and regard me as a bullshit lier. But I really don't care about what you guys said. I just wanted to share all my experience with you guys. Because I was been very helped for many other destinations.

You are right, if your age is over 40, 50 and ugly fat monster, you should spend more to make them happy. But I'm not the case.

I can share more detailed information if you guys need it. Thanks.

Guys,

Can you please tell me your ideas on what to do for trip with 400-500 usd daily budget.

Thanks in advance.