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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3020623]I do not know about any underground brothel, but I am from Atlanta and have said many times on this site that you can fuck chicks in the strip clubs and at strip parties for $40, only to be called a liar. No idea why that would be something to lie about.[/QUOTE]Exactly, fine girls too. Something to maybe explore more next year 2026 and report back. Hawkers everywhere fellas even in our backyards and sewers LOL.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3020592]You're right pussy is pussy, sex is sex, $50 girl fucks just as good as $1500 girl. My understanding is many girls offer a premium add on called PSE (Pornstar Experience). And who better to do it with than an actual P.S. So guys like to pay for that screaming and moaning wild animal sex that's not available elsewhere.
I like your math. But you haven't accounted for the cost of feelings. As experienced mongers, we all know that a transaction only happens when both parties feel they're getting more value out of it. For eg, if I pay $100 to have sex with a girl, sex is more important to me than $100 so I'm giving it away, else I will keep my money. Similar for the girl, $100 has more value to her than sex so she accepts the offer.
Coming back to your math. You can always work another 30 hrs to make $1500 but no matter what you do, you're not going to get the opportunity to have sex with that hot girl if time has passed and she stops working or retires or disappears.[/QUOTE]1) If you are talking about a mongers and mongering you need to first define what it means. As, I understand that most of the visitors to this forum pay money, the correct words are buyers and sellers. To prove my point, try not to pay money and pick up girls just write down on paper how many girls you managed to fuck. You need to write it down on paper so that it doesn't turn out like in the fishing stories that fishermen tell each other and show what size fish they caught.
2) If you are talking about feelings, then I am afraid to upset you. All your feelings are your personal imagination. When you are with a prostitute, you buy her body and her service, and not her mind and feelings. This is a proven story. And you pay her for sex. Next time try to tell her about your and her feelings and love that are not backed up by your money. Just tell her let's fuck because true love.
3) You can always work another 30 hrs to make $1500 and pay it to your #1, but I can't understand your logic. If $1,500 and wasted 30 hours (most a week of work) is worth more to you than sticking your penis in a "public vagina" for one hour I don't mind. It just speaks about your scale of evaluating your life and your need of fucking, apart from other things. Ex; if a person is dying of hunger he will probably pay $1,500 for hamburger to stay alive. Maybe I misunderstood you, but in the slang of "experienced mongers" it is called a "deer" . In the sense, that when a person has an erect penis and he sees a vagina, his head is no longer working.
4) about, if the girl finished working and you will never have the opportunity to fuck her, I'm afraid you are wrong. There are a lot of people on this forum who fuck prostitutes who got married. They fucked them before marriage. And they fuck them after girs get married even with double the energy. They get pleasure, when they can tell themselves that I fuck my old prostitute and she gives me a blowjob even better than to her new husband. There is never enough money, and for a prostitute it works too, for her an extra blowjob is like sneezed once it doesn't count=it's worth nothing. She doesn't perceive it as cheating there is always an excuse. I have to pay my bills. I'll draw a conclusion, read something from popular psychology, someone's reality is always subjective, it's all what a monger imagined in order to raise his self-esteem and be happy. It just feels good and nice when a monger can say to himself and friends I fuck hot girls.
[QUOTE=Igor54;3020757]Mongering you need to first define what it means.[/QUOTE]I would define a monger as a connoisseur of sexual experiences.
[QUOTE=Igor54;3020757]If you are talking about feelings, then I am afraid to upset you.[/QUOTE]I'm not upset you're good. You misunderstood me. I didn't mean feelings of love, I meant how a person feels about money and sex. I was stuck for a word, I guess "value" would be more appropriate word. If someone has an abundance of money but lack of sex, he has "lesser value" for his money but more strong "feelings" towards obtaining sex. Similarly girls have stronger "feelings" towards obtaining money vs providing sex.
[QUOTE=Igor54;3020757]Just tell her let's fuck because true love[/QUOTE]True love doesn't always equate to sex, I've met so many married mongers who love their wives but haven't had sex with them for decades.
[QUOTE=Igor54;3020757]If $1,500 and wasted 30 hours (most a week of work) is worth more to you than sticking your penis in a "public vagina" for one hour I don't mind.[/QUOTE]Yes.
[QUOTE=Igor54;3020757]It just speaks about your scale of evaluating your life and your need of fucking, apart from other things[/QUOTE]If you don't put your need of fucking above all else, I'd say who are you?
I've seen countless people. Work hard, save money, research for hours, book flights, book hotels, submit visa applications, lie to the consular officers about sex travel, obtain visas, drive to the airport, wait in long lines carrying heavy bags, check in their bag, get molested by TSA, fly uncomfortably 22 hrs across the planet following strict FAA rules. No smoking, seat belt, cross international borders, lie about travel purposes to the border patrol officers, check out their bags, drive again for hours, take medication and. Fuck.
All this headache just to give your money to a "public vagina" who is at the bottom of the society, has no moral values, and has no feelings or emotional connection of love.
[QUOTE=Igor54;3020757]if the girl finished working and you will never have the opportunity to fuck her, I'm afraid you are wrong[/QUOTE]My statement still stands. If a prostitute is having sex for money even with a single person after retirement, did she really retire?
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3020785]I would define a monger as a connoisseur of sexual experiences.
I'm not upset you're good. You misunderstood me. I didn't mean feelings of love, I meant how a person feels about money and sex. I was stuck for a word, I guess "value" would be more appropriate word. If someone has an abundance of money but lack of sex, he has "lesser value" for his money but more strong "feelings" towards obtaining sex. Similarly girls have stronger "feelings" towards obtaining money vs providing sex.
True love doesn't always equate to sex, I've met so many married mongers who love their wives but haven't had sex with them for decades.
Yes.
If you don't put your need of fucking above all else, I'd say who are you?
I've seen countless people. Work hard, save money, research for hours, book flights, book hotels, submit visa applications, lie to the consular officers about sex travel, obtain visas, drive to the airport, wait in long lines carrying heavy bags, check in their bag, get molested by TSA, fly uncomfortably 22 hrs across the planet following strict FAA rules. No smoking, seat belt, cross international borders, lie about travel purposes to the border patrol officers, check out their bags, drive again for hours, take medication and. Fuck.
All this headache just to give your money to a "public vagina" who is at the bottom of the society, has no moral values, and has no feelings or emotional connection of love.
My statement still stands. If a prostitute is having sex for money even with a single person after retirement, did she really retire?[/QUOTE]To some extent, I agree with you but I can simplify your philosophy. Everything is much simpler. A person builds his behavior on the basis of his needs and wants. Everything you said about "love" can be reduced to the fact that: at first a person is driven by the desire for sex, communication, and everything else that is part of human nature. When the Honeymoon Ends it is simply convenient for him. This can be described in different words, but it all comes down to the fact that it is comfortable for him to live (in this case I am not discussing the desire to have children).
About sex trips, a person does this because he wants to: save money + he cannot get a quality woman in his country for various reasons. They simply do not exist there =very expensive, low quality prostitutes, you can see it on the sites, . For example, look at the sites somewhere in Canada, States etc.
I don't think that prostitutes are at the bottom of our society. They are the same people as any of us here. And everyone here should say thank you to prostituets, because otherwise he would be jerking off to the computer screen or, if he has a wife, then he would have to fuck her which doesn't always bring pleasure. We all sell ourselves in one way or another.
In addition, I will say, as a rule, a man pays his wife for sex, it is simply described in a different ways. For example, a man must support his family. A man cares and thinks about his family, while a woman is primarily by nature concerned with herself.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3020785]I would define a monger as a connoisseur of sexual experiences.
I'm not upset you're good. You misunderstood me. I didn't mean feelings of love, I meant how a person feels about money and sex. I was stuck for a word, I guess "value" would be more appropriate word. If someone has an abundance of money but lack of sex, he has "lesser value" for his money but more strong "feelings" towards obtaining sex. Similarly girls have stronger "feelings" towards obtaining money vs providing sex.
True love doesn't always equate to sex, I've met so many married mongers who love their wives but haven't had sex with them for decades.
Yes.
If you don't put your need of fucking above all else, I'd say who are you?
I've seen countless people. Work hard, save money, research for hours, book flights, book hotels, submit visa applications, lie to the consular officers about sex travel, obtain visas, drive to the airport, wait in long lines carrying heavy bags, check in their bag, get molested by TSA, fly uncomfortably 22 hrs across the planet following strict FAA rules. No smoking, seat belt, cross international borders, lie about travel purposes to the border patrol officers, check out their bags, drive again for hours, take medication and. Fuck.
All this headache just to give your money to a "public vagina" who is at the bottom of the society, has no moral values, and has no feelings or emotional connection of love.
My statement still stands. If a prostitute is having sex for money even with a single person after retirement, did she really retire?[/QUOTE]To make it more fun there is another example, but this is no longer related to your philosophy. Just my opinion. This is for those who think they are Alpha men, seducers, and great lovers. As I see here on the forum, many people love various sexual pleasures for example cunnilingus. Many say that it brings him pleasure. I will explain how it works from a neuroscience perspective. A man wants to feel like a great lover =great sexual partner in the eyes of the woman he has sex with. Imagination and realizing it, gives him good feelings and sensations on an emotional level. In fact it is an illusion.
And now what's really going on.
The main dream of a prostitute is: I let you lick my pussy for money please cum faster, because the next client is waiting, my vagina hurts and I don't need your sexual pleasures.
A man who licks a pussy is unable to understand that by doing so he tries to boost his self-esteem. When he feels like he is a great lover, he has subconsios pleasant feelings. The same applies to those who love hard sex, swingers, and other perverts. They either have problems with erection and they try this way make yourself harder. Or they want to feel their power over other people. And this can be done by humiliating another person, in this case a prostitute. There can be many reasons. For example, in their life, someone fuck them etc.
My personal example; I was married for 15 years with two children never licked pussy in my life and I didn't have such a need, LOL I think it's because I don't need to prove to anyone that I'm a Great lover. Conclusion don't lick pusy you can get STD, and infect another person. To make it easier to give up this bad habit, Imagine that before you started licking AR pussy, five mongers stuck their dicks in it.
Sorry for the last min post. But could someone dm me a safe driver that speaks some English and is familiar with some good clubs. I land in Bogota late Friday night. Any help is greatly appreciate 🙏.
Sorry for the last min post! Does anyone have a safe reliable driver that speaks some English. I could greatly use your help. Please DM me.
[QUOTE=Igor54;3020869]A person builds his behavior on the basis of his needs and wants
About sex trips, a person does this because he wants to: save money + he cannot get a quality woman in his country for various reasons. They simply do not exist there =very expensive, low quality prostitutes, you can see it on the sites, . For example, look at the sites somewhere in Canada, States etc.
And everyone here should say thank you to prostituets, because otherwise he would be jerking off to the computer screen or, if he has a wife, then he would have to fuck her which doesn't always bring pleasure. We all sell ourselves in one way or another.
[/QUOTE]I like the idea of sex based on primal instincts. The world is a jungle, the men who are successful and have the money get to fuck the most beautiful girls.
For the sex trips, ofc it's cheaper and saves money <- This is the statement what only a few men understand. So called "Womanizers", men who obtain free sex try to look down on men who pay but their ego and condescension fails them to see the reality. The astronomical goals that mongers have like fucking 100 girls in a month or fucking girls from X nationality or sometimes having sex with a girl that doesn't even speak your language is not possible by becoming a Womanizer.
Free sex actually costs more, people only look at the money "cost" for prostitution but for relationships, the time, energy, mental and emotional bandwidth and other responsibilities that come with being a partner are also "costs" towards obtaining free sex which is way more expensive.
I can have sex, pay and walk away, don't have to worry about taking a girl out on a date, listen to her for hours, making sure she has a good time, worry if she's in a bad mood or gets sick or has financial problems or her cat died. That emotional and mental bandwidth cost is way too expensive. You're associated with that girl in success or failures and often times men who are successful feel the girls are weighing them down. Marriage and partnership are outdated concepts for people who are ignorant of the world of mongering and all that it has to offer. If men are the providers, money earners and required by the girl to function in her life, why should men even consider an equal partnership when they clearly have an advantage?
And the worst of all you become a working "guy" prostitute, making sex pleasurable and enjoyable for your girl, making her cum and satisfying her, performing acts that you don't even like. How many times has a monger cared about whether their paid girl finishes or not?
If a smart man pays this emotional cost, he would demand the same from the girl in return. It's stupid to pay that and get sex in return.
I agree. US does have some low quality girls. I don't blame men for travelling. Look up tryst. Link for indy escorts and it's home page logo will give you PTSD. Full of crack working girls and streetwalkers. They are the bottom of their society.
For Canada. I disagree. You take that back. They have some real beauties college girl next door types.
I say Thank you to prostitutes every time and I mean it, the value they provide me is much more than what I pay them. If it weren't for them, life will be empty having all this money but no purpose.
I've never been to Colombia and I don't even know what I'm doing on this thread talking about stuff that isn't even remotely related to current girls, venues or the sex situation in Bogota but I like this conversation. Wherever in the world you are the basic concepts of mongering are the same.
I visited Esperanza Marín Spa in El Poblado. Only three women were available. Two were below 5, and the third was a bit too curvy but cute, so I chose her. She asked for an extra fee for the mutual touch (sorry, I can't remember the exact amount). It was a typical spa experience, but the massage routine was good, so I'd say it was a little above average. I didn't go back, but I think it's worth checking out.
P. S Jade Palace Spa also thee woman were available. But all of them was below 5.
[QUOTE=NitroNinja;3021816]I visited Esperanza Marn Spa in El Poblado. Only three women were available. Two were below 5, and the third was a bit too curvy but cute, so I chose her. She asked for an extra fee for the mutual touch (sorry, I can't remember the exact amount). It was a typical spa experience, but the massage routine was good, so I'd say it was a little above average. I didn't go back, but I think it's worth checking out.
P. S Jade Palace Spa also thee woman were available. But all of them was below 5.[/QUOTE]Sorry I uploaded this report to wrong forum. It should be in the Medelin rerport.
Anyone interested in this great apartment -- 3 bedrooms, 1.5 bathrooms 1200+ Sq Ft.
[URL]https://youtube.com/shorts/H90b_zTDclU?feature=share[/URL]
I think they want 50 k but probably is negotiable.
I lived here for 14 yrs and it was great on Calle 19 and KR13.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;3022786]Anyone interested in this great apartment -- 3 bedrooms, 1.5 bathrooms 1200+ Sq Ft.
[URL]https://youtube.com/shorts/H90b_zTDclU?feature=share[/URL]
I think they want 50 k but probably is negotiable.
I lived here for 14 yrs and it was great on Calle 19 and KR13.[/QUOTE]The video really doesn't show the great views-- here are a few photos of the fron looking west and the eastern view from bedroom.
I got through covid by traveling to Bogota. I had a blast. Santa Fe was an adventurous spot and Woodman's tour was more than worth it. Photoprepagos girls tended to be too hard for my liking. But I banged the majority of my 100+ new girls a year by meeting them on [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. I had a script that I would copy and paste from that went from introductions to exchanging whatsapp to nailing down the logistics and my insistence on no condoms in about 6-7 steps. I got some hotties and really cool girls. Toward the end of my travels (once SE Asia opened back up), I noticed the quality and quantity of girls had gone waaaay down on seeking for Bogota. When I search for 18-20 year olds, 90% are fat (or have pictures from Dubai) and by the end of the first page I'm down to girls who haven't logged on in the last year.
Where have all the college girls looking to make a few extra bucks gone? Is there another online forum? I doubt I'll be very successful with my old script on Tinder. But who knows.
[QUOTE=ShadowJ;3023255]I got through covid by traveling to Bogota. I had a blast. Santa Fe was an adventurous spot and Woodman's tour was more than worth it. Photoprepagos girls tended to be too hard for my liking. But I banged the majority of my 100+ new girls a year by meeting them on [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. I had a script that I would copy and paste from that went from introductions to exchanging whatsapp to nailing down the logistics and my insistence on no condoms in about 6-7 steps. I got some hotties and really cool girls. Toward the end of my travels (once SE Asia opened back up), I noticed the quality and quantity of girls had gone waaaay down on seeking for Bogota. When I search for 18-20 year olds, 90% are fat (or have pictures from Dubai) and by the end of the first page I'm down to girls who haven't logged on in the last year.
Where have all the college girls looking to make a few extra bucks gone? Is there another online forum? I doubt I'll be very successful with my old script on Tinder. But who knows.[/QUOTE]Sadly, many have gone to social networks to sell explicit or semi explicit "content" and are no longer interested in physical encounters. It used to be rather easy to find non-pros in Tinder: a few conversations trying not to be so direct, so they do not feel likes pros and then offer some generous compensation and voilá. I had great experiences with BBBJ, BBFS, CIM, some even claimed never did anal but they wanted to try. Now is not so easy, lots of scammers trying to get "taxi money" in advance before disappearing, others want lots of money for a few hours, other feel offended if you suggest anything physical, other just want to sell photos, videos or make video calls.
On the other hand casas and clubs are full of chubby and unattractive girls and websites girls have so many filters in their photos that you don't know what you are going to get.
Golden times when 100+ girls, were in "pussy-house" on a Friday eve some of them semi pros wanting to live an experience are long gone. Future looks grim.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel22;3020949]Sorry for the last min post! Does anyone have a safe reliable driver that speaks some English. I could greatly use your help. Please DM me.[/QUOTE]In Medellin I could find bilingual drivers quite easily and they were happy to do hourly / all day charters. Long trips out of town were expensive. Anyone have ideas in Bogota? I will be there in 2 weeks and staying 2 weeks also. Pvt message is ok.