BBFS+CIP is standard in Indonesia, you don't even need to ask for it
[QUOTE=Bienenstich;2621408]Posts like these make me feel like it's even worse than thailand. The only girls offering CBJ there are on br other than that you really don't have to ask. Egy monger claiming BBFS is standard yet there are dudes paying for cbjs. Iirc Smoothy wrote a year ago as well that its standard pros will always ask for a condom.
I don't mind running around asking for BBFS everywhere but if I know where to expect what chances with pros I would appreciate it a lot.[/QUOTE]Not a weekend millionaire or someone with a sample base of a few tens of chicas. I am talking hundreds possibly thousands. Nobody has ever insisted on a condom. Of course, I do tip when needed, a maximum of 100 to 150 thousand Rupiah. Sometimes I pay nothing.
The one and only time the chica refused I walked out and complained to the Mamasan, who got me a free replacement who would eventually go BBFS, with CIP even. It may help if you are a regular face in these establishments in these cases.
Another tedious discussion
Oh great, things have reopened again and we celebrate by dragging out the carcass of another discussion that's been done to death countless times before.
Look it's simple, in the big commercial meat markets many (many, not all) of the girls will insist on covered BJ's. Many won't, many won't even insist on a condom for full sex, you can often have the most crazy abandoned sex you ever had in a place like Travel or Classic, but it's not the norm. You can ask beforehand, a simple solution I suppose, but usually it never crosses your mind. You can insist on an uncovered BJ, it being your goddam right as a voter and a taxpayer, you can make a fuss, you can call the mamasan and get your girl changed, insisting that she registers your righteous complaint about standards of service.
Or, you know, you could recognise the fact that you're paying 25 bucks for an hour of mechanical sex with an indentured sex worker (and almost certainly heavily indebted single mother) and just suck up your privilege and mark it up to experience.
You want to call the shots in your sex scene? Organise it yourself, that's what I do. That way you know what you're getting and you can insist on what your paying for, although as has been pointed out a thousand times you really are an unlucky schmuck if you can't find a girl willing to do what you want in Jakarta, as often as not for free. This town is teeming with sex-mad pros, semi-pros and good old-fashioned happy amateurs.
Just don't swagger into the brothel equivalent of a McDonalds and complain to the management because the pickle in the burger isn't to your liking.
Spa recommendations for lunchtime happy ending?
I'm in Jakarta briefly for the first time later this week.
I'm looking for a clean, upscale spa where I can get a happy ending massage around lunchtime.
Any other extras, such as full service, aren't necessary (though wouldn't necessarily be refused), though it would be nice to be able to choose the girl, and it would be preferable it the girl performs the massage nude.
Any recommendations? Are spots like Fortune Spa and Delta Spa good for this kind of thing? I do care a bit about the attractiveness of the masseuse, and am fine paying a premium for this.
Thanks in advance.