[QUOTE=Client 9]Colombian women are incapable of logic...[/QUOTE]I think that the word "Colombian" is a tautology.
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[QUOTE=Client 9]Colombian women are incapable of logic...[/QUOTE]I think that the word "Colombian" is a tautology.
[QUOTE=Ricker]Though the spanish dialects are very different from Argentina to Medellin, Colombia, the basic Spanish phrases are pretty much the same.
For as good as you're going to get in spanish in 2 weeks, those phrases in The BA thread will be fine.
In Argentina, the use of 'Vos sos' (you are) is used primarily, in Colombia most often used is 'tu eres' (you are).
Though they each understand the other.
The rest is just fine :)
Have fun![/QUOTE]Thanks for the response! I have this silly image of my self flashing different index cards with pre filled out phrases in spanish on one side, and english on the other, at the girls to communicate.
[QUOTE=Client 9]Colombian women are incapable of logic and jump to impulsive conclusions all the time.[/QUOTE]Knowing that I run the risk of turning this into a pissing contest I can’t refrain from reacting to the simplifications you broach.
Your post is brimming over with generalizations, and displays the same know-it-all attitude that you accuse others of.
[QUOTE]I have been to four other countries in Latin America, and "amistad" is interpreted normally in all of them. Only in Colombia does an innocent word like "amistad" result in sinister interpretations from the women. And I think it reveals something about Colombian culture.[/QUOTE]I wonder how good you know Colombia and how many Colombians you have met apart from the women you’ve been with to express such over-confident swagger about Colombian culture.
If you’d looked it up in a Colombian Spanish dictionary such as Dictionario Norma Español, you would have found that the general meaning of ‘amistad’ isn’t any different in Colombia than in the rest of the Spanish-speaking world:
'afecto que une a las personas, 2. personas amigas.’
Probably there’s a simple explanation for your confusion. In Colombia sex ads in many newspapers are posted under the euphemistically termed umbrella caption ‘Amistad.’ [QUOTE]After reading this, expect various Colombia apologists to deny this. They are wrong. Most of them don't actually speak Spanish. Most of them don't actually travel to Colombia to meet women, they just talk about it on the internet with other men[/QUOTE]It’s nearly 20 years that I have been travelling to Colombia. I lived in Cali and El Quindío for extended periods of time. There are few places in the country that I haven’t been to, and have met and rubbed shoulders with hundreds, maybe thousands, of Colombians.
However, I wouldn’t have the temerity of considering myself an expert on the mentality of Colombian women or Colombian culture like you do. When you’ve met enough Colombians you’ll find that they aren’t the cardboard characters you depict them to be, but as intricate as the people in your part of the world.[QUOTE]Obviously, none of this matters in the case of prepagos and other types of Colombian prostitutes.[/QUOTE]I can count the P4P encounters that I’ve had in all this time on the fingers of one hand, because Colombian girls are very open and inviting to foreigners. Speak the lingo, learn to dance salsa, look cool and dress sharply, go to Juanchito or Tienda Vieja, or any viejoteca for that matter, and you’ll find that you can easily score more regulars chicas than you can handle.
Get to know Colombianos better and you’ll find that like most people in poor countries all over the world many of them show a picaro, street-wise mentality when it comes to making an easy buck.
One of my friends uses to say ‘para el dinero baila el perro,’ and a joke showing that mentality, and very popular with Colombians, is the one about the daughter who has been abroad and after many years of complete isolation returns home to confess to her dad that she had been working as a high-class prostitute.
He indignantly shows her the door and accuses her of being a disgrace to the family, and tells her never to return.
He’s about to push her out and slam the door in her face when she tells him she can understand his anger and will do as he says, but that the sole purpose of her short visit had been to hand over the title deed of a luxurious bungalow she had bought for him and her mother, the bank pass of the account she had opened in their name with US$500,000 in it, the diamond necklace for her mother, the Rolex watch for him, and the papers of that brand new Porsche Carrere parked in front of the house.
He turns pale and asks her in a quiverring voice to tell him again what she had become. When she repeats ‘prostitute’, he replies:
- ¡Uf! Qué susto, había entendido ¡Protestante!
I can see some people doing it exactly like that. But a little discretion, like, here is some taxi money and a little extra to buy your baby, mother, grandmother a little gift for watching the baby. Something along those lines or I saw you looking at that dress, if you really want it go back with your girlfriends and buy it.
Done like this, I have had none pissed at me (over that), given it back, said it was too much or too little and all appreciated the gift. I have dated women of all estradas and professions here in my travels.
But I could see where some would say, oh by the way here is 50 K cop, thanks for fucking me. And those guys deserve what they get.
Just my opinion and my way of helping a friend.
[QUOTE=Ricker]Matter of fact, plenty of chicas (normal) may take offense to just handing them money when they're leaving ... insinuating.
Of course the pros/semi pros will take as much as you're willing to give.[/QUOTE]
I live in Colombia, work in Colombia for Colombian pesos and I side with Client 9 on this. It is VERY bad form to wave money in people's faces here. Not only can it get you robbed it really makes people think you are low class. Most non-pros in Colombia wouldn't even dare to ask for taxi money home. The last time I went out on the town with an amigovia here, I payed the cover 10k each and she paid 40k for the bottle before I could even stop her! Girls here who are not interesadas or prepagos want to make it 100% clear that they do NOT need your money, it's a pride thing.
And yes, "amistad" conjures up images of amigovios and amigos con derechos. Fuckbuddies. And most non-pros are looking for at least the POSSIBILITY of something serious, I really don't know why in this day and age but in that aspect they are just as tiresome as the AW.
I get the potential for action ALL THE TIME on my gigs but at least 90% of the girls are looking for a steady boyfriend and lose all interest in you if that's not on the table. I always tell them the truth, that I'm married and in an open relationship and would they be interested in a trio. Not many takers (although the ones that ARE takers are the best in the sack anyways I'm sure).
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito] It is VERY bad form to wave money in people's faces here. Not only can it get you robbed it really makes people think you are low class.[/QUOTE]We are obviously having two different conversations here! I couldn't agree with you more. But if you are referring to any of my statements on this subject, you are completely mistaken. To each his own as our opinions and experiences differ, as do our manners of presentation of gifts to our friends.
Out and done on this subject.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]The last time I went out on the town with an amigovia here, I payed the cover 10k each and she paid 40k for the bottle before I could even stop her![/QUOTE]That's exactly my experience!
[quote]Knowing that I run the risk of turning this into a pissing contest I can’t refrain from reacting to the simplifications you broach. Your post is brimming over with generalizations, and displays the same know-it-all attitude that you accuse others of. [/quote]You are looking for a pissing contest. So why be passive-aggressive about it? At the risk of pointing out the obvious, the primary purpose of this forum is to provide generalizations that simplify the process of chica-chasing.
[quote]I wonder how good you know Colombia and how many Colombians you have met apart from the women you’ve been with to express such over-confident swagger about Colombian culture. [/quote]Enough to know that Colombian women like confident men with a little swagger.
[quote]If you’d looked it up in a Colombian Spanish dictionary. [/quote]At the risk of pointing out the obvious, dictionaries do not attempt to be comprehensive guides to sexual innuendo.
[quote]Probably there’s a simple explanation for your confusion. [/quote]There is no confusion on my part. However, I will point out some more of your confusion. You meant to choose "El Culeon" as your pseudonym, not El Culion. What you are attempting to say is derived from the verb "culear" which means "to fuck" in Colombian Spanish. In turn, the verb culear is derived from "culebra" which means "snake" in Spanish. "Culiar" is a common misspelling for culear. By the way, your choice of pseudonym also does not reflect the humility that you disingenuously self-proclaim.
[quote]However, I wouldn’t have the temerity of considering myself an expert on the mentality of Colombian women or Colombian culture like you do. When you’ve met enough Colombians you’ll find that they aren’t the cardboard characters you depict them to be, but as intricate as the people in your part of the world. I can count the P4P encounters that I’ve had in all this time on the fingers of one hand, because Colombian girls are very open and inviting to foreigners. Speak the lingo, learn to dance salsa, look cool and dress sharply, go to Juanchito or Tienda Vieja, or any viejoteca for that matter, and you’ll find that you can easily score more regulars chicas than you can handle. [/quote]Despite all of your passive-aggressive rambling, it's clear you do consider yourself an expert. Unfortunately, recommendations of a Friday night in Juanchito or a late Sunday afternoon at Tienda Vieja don't establish such expertise. While it is accurate that both locations are very fertile spots for chica-chasing in Cali, it's also true that any American feminist lurking on Colombia forums could very easily have made the same recommendations. What else ya' got, champ?
[QUOTE=Client 9]You meant to choose "El Culeon" as your pseudonym, not El Culion. What you are attempting to say is derived from the verb "culear" which means "to fuck" in Colombian Spanish.[/QUOTE]WHAHAHAHA!!!!
[url]http://www.asihablamos.com/?word=culiar[/url]
[url]http://www.diccionariolibre.com/definition.php?word=culiar[/url]
etc. etc.[QUOTE]In turn, the verb culear is derived from "culebra" which means "snake" in Spanish. "Culiar" is a common misspelling for culear[/QUOTE] Sorry, wrong again, buddy. It's got nothing to do with "culebra" (culebrar?) but with "culo," hence the occurence of both spellings ;)
‘Nuff said!
Hi Gents,
Has anyone ever done a green card wife swap with a Colombian Babe. Basically you make an arranged marriage until she gets her papers but she gives you all the ass you want in US.
Anyone done this or knows someone who has? It looks like most real marriages end up with divorces from Colombia. So why not lay the cards straight from the very beginning? Any thoughts?
[QUOTE=El Culion]WHAHAHAHA!!!!
[url]http://www.asihablamos.com/?word=culiar[/url]
[url]http://www.diccionariolibre.com/definition.php?word=culiar[/url]
etc. etc. Sorry, wrong again, buddy. It's got nothing to do with "culebra" (culebrar?) but with "culo," hence the occurence of both spellings ;)
‘Nuff said![/QUOTE]Actually, I believe your dicionary links prove more the Client´s point of view.
Your second link even states that there is no definition for your word ´culiar´,
but who really cares really.
Hey Guys,
I am planning to spend a few months in Colombia to learn Spanish. And maybe investigate the Colombian woman as well! I'd like to enroll in a Spanish immersion program with a good reputation, but also reasonably affordable. My Spanish is very, very, basic right now so I want to learn as much as possible, as quickly as possible.
I'm having a hard time finding schools online and was hoping you all might be able to provide some advice. I've heard Bogota is the best place to go, but am open to other locations as well. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your help!
Neidermeyer
I'm a swinger. I live in Santa Marta. I have some friends and we swap girlfriends for the weekend sometimes. With new couples, we chat on the net first. If everyone clicks, we do a swap. If anyone is interested in exchanging information, please send me an IM.
Make sure you give her half of what you own! Beacause colombian ladies are pretty smart. No I never married any colombian girl for paper or just to get the ass. I'll get all the time without getting marry fool. Get you game on. I meet alot of colombian girls that had spoken to me about that american men propose to marry them just for sex instead of asking them out on a date (dinner-dancing-drinking-hot sex all night long) alot cheaper then having to deal with all the drama of marry, lawyers, divorce, maintenance f%& that. Live and learn guy!
[QUOTE=Cool Morris]Hi Gents,
Has anyone ever done a green card wife swap with a Colombian Babe. Basically you make an arranged marriage until she gets her papers but she gives you all the ass you want in US.
Anyone done this or knows someone who has? It looks like most real marriages end up with divorces from Colombia. So why not lay the cards straight from the very beginning? Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.learn4good.com/great_schools/colombia_immersion_spanish_language_courses.htm[/url]
Here's one in Medellin. This took me like 60 seconds to find on the internet. I think that most people need a good bit of time to learn to hear and speak well, like maybe a few years. But in addition to a school of this sort, spending lots of time with a spanish-speaking girlfriend is most effective.