Istanbul

There IS a thread for ANKARA in this FORUM !!!

[QUOTE=Max220]Has anyone used Sibel who as an ad in the classified section on this site?
If so how would you rate her, she seems expensive but is she worth it?

[url]http://www.beepworld.de/members96/sibelfromankara[/url]


Max[/QUOTE]

Thanks for your replies.

I found the thread as per your advice she seems expensive and so will look around.

With thanks to Big Bro AJ's reports I did arrive well prepared to Istanbul. The first afternoon I tried to call some numbers, but it turned out that some of the girls did not speak English. The one that did could not organize a girl short term in the afternoon. As I still had a business meeting that afternoon I was too short of time. So no action.

The 2nd day I called again my number I've got, but no girls available during the day. So I decided to head for Irmak at lunch time. Have a look a reports of distinction! The map that is available there is excellent. So no problem to find Irmak. There were about 8 girls there at 12h30 pm that were typical eastern looking. I sat down and had a Chai first. Some more girls were coming but the quality was IMHO very low. Then I decided to check out Gold Can but it was still closed. So I came back to Irmak and had another beer. But no girls yet that I favoured. I payed again my bill and took off. Must say that Irmak really has moderate prices and seems no to be a rip-off. I think I was just too early but I had another meeting late afternoon and wanted to get something going.

So I took my 3rd option and decided to check out Nadide Massage. The Parlour is located in a side street but pretty easy to find. It is a nice apartment that almost looks like an office. The door was opened by the manager's assistant. In the first room there was a Turkish girl sitting that was just my fit. Black hair, petite and A cups. She was may be 30 already, but still good to look at. Typically I prefer younger ones, but she just made a good impression all at all. I did not even sit down and told her to get the thing started. She was positively surprised and took me to the counter. I had to pay 100 YTL service fee and another 100 YTL to the girl. Perhaps I should have asked before but it seemed really high priced for a 45 min. session. In the end it turned out that it was worth every cent. I had GFE, DFK and good sex on the massage table. This setting kind of turned me on. When I will be back, then Nadide seems to be a good alternative during the day time.

Happy Hunting!

I've started to visit Seranda for the last few months.

Each time I've went at least with one or more friends.

As described in the forum, each we talked about the menu upfront. We've discussed with around 9-12 girls. All refuse to DFK (infact even K is refused forget about the Deep and French part). All refused" BJ (again forget about the Bare even Covered is refused)

When I do same in Bacardi, similar girls (We usually get both places for stunners) accepts DFK and BJ. Even sometimes I didn't asked them about the menu but get the DFK,BBJ,DATY.

I guess we doing something wron in Seranda.

Any hints?

[QUOTE=Muratlale4]Dear Max,

I dont know this girl, she might be the best screw there is for all I care, but if you read her ads carefully youl'll detect too much attitude between the lines. 500 € for an allnighter is too much if you ask me. If you ask around in the forum, you'll find much better deals.

I use to go with 'vip' girls (thats what they called themselves, not an agency or such) and what I came to realize is that I got the best paid sex from normal WG. The problem with Vip girls is that they cannot offer (most of the time) anything more than a 'normal' WG.

Regards

PS: If you do try her out you might even prove me wrong ;)[/QUOTE]Dear Muratlale4,

Usually mamushka girls charge around 150 USD for 2 hrs and 200 USD for all night. What is special about Vip girls since they charge 200 Eur for 1 hour.

See the links for Vip girls:

If you want to see Sofia's,Natalie's and Tatyana's Pics,please go to this
WEB PAGE:
[url]http://vipcompanion999.20m.com[/url]

If you want to see Ana's Pics,please go to this WEB PAGE:
[url]http://vipmodelexclusive.20m.com[/url]

U Turner

[QUOTE=U Turner]Dear Muratlale4,

Usually mamushka girls charge around 150 USD for 2 hrs and 200 USD for all night. What is special about Vip girls since they charge 200 Eur for 1 hour.

See the links for Vip girls:

If you want to see Sofia's,Natalie's and Tatyana's Pics,please go to this
WEB PAGE:
[url]http://vipcompanion999.20m.com[/url]

If you want to see Ana's Pics,please go to this WEB PAGE:
[url]http://vipmodelexclusive.20m.com[/url]

U Turner[/QUOTE]
Are they any good?
Did you have any experience with them?
regards

You better stick on Aksaray(Bacardi + Irmak) girls and local friends’ contacts.

I personally know two Romanian girls who have UK based agency web pages and numbers. They pretend to be touring Istanbul, but they live in Istanbul. And ridiculously ask 250-300Euros per hour.

As an active Istanbul monger I fell oblige to warn you, please don’t really trust these sites. Very few of the touring agencies are accurate and trustful. Some girls from these agencies discussed in previous posts.

Independent or mamushka girls, $100-150 per hour; $150-250 all night, are the market rates; rates depend on age of the girl, hour, date and demand.

Some friends call me maestro, but maestro of what mongering!!!

As long as you are a continuous caller and confidant, you become girl’s number one customer. They are aware that you are capable of various opportunities.

After a while your name doesn’t matter, you are one of the others. You are always a customer; but of course time to time there might be exceptions.

Over these years I had too many extra ordinary sexual experiences, I was too lucky; and sometimes I forced my luck too much. Time to time unexpected incidents had happened but I survived.

In last 2 years, I have sex more than 150 girls. I don’t even remember some of the faces. Friends in low places opened different doors to live and satisfy extra ordinary sexual desires.

After a while everything is mechanical. No matter where and how you do, it’s turn into routine. First you contact a mamushka, you meet all her girls, than her friend’s girls; finally you find another mamushka.

When you become reliable, profitable and continues customer; mamushka offers you the new comers.

Not only mamushkas but also independent girls love reliable, profitable and continues customers. After getting close, they introduce you with their girl friends; but they might be jealous if you don’t call them back.

Time to time, mamushka girls become independent and bring 2-3 girls from their home countries, at first she works with them. She offers discounts for you and your friends. When she has enough customers than she brings more girls and becomes mamushka

They pay $3000-4000 for sham marriage to get Turkish citizenship. Once they got their Id, they lease apartment. Instead of living in a hotel room, they live in groups at apartments. Their taxi drivers arrange all sorts of drugs, they become close friends with club/bar owners (Most of the independents prefer to hang out at popular spots and bars around Taksim, Macka and Etiler) therefore bouncers and cops don’t bother them.

She dates at least with one guy to feel secure but unfortunately most of these guys only slept with her friends and her girls, spent her earnings, beat her and left her. Very few lucky ones find the right guy.

It is always difficult to date with these types of girls, no matter what time it is, there is always a horny guy looking for fun. Girls hate guys who ask for all night on Thursday, Friday and Saturdays; cause girls make more money at short programs.

Yesterday, I was with one of the mamushka friend. A fellow foreign monger called and asked company for the night. She is learning English but afraid to speak the language. Therefore, I talked with the fellow friend. After the short conversation I felt like pimp. And questioned my relations with these girls. I have to thicken the boundaries.

[QUOTE=Muratlale4]Are they any good?

Did you have any experience with them?

regards[/QUOTE]No I have not. Actually you posted previously that you had tried "Vip Girls". So you should know if they are good or not. I sent them my phone and they called me back. They are asking 200 EUR / hour. This is too much, unless they are extremely beautiful.

U Turner

[QUOTE=U Turner]No I have not. Actually you posted previously that you had tried "Vip Girls". So you should know if they are good or not. I sent them my phone and they called me back. They are asking 200 EUR / hour. This is too much, unless they are extremely beautiful.

U Turner[/QUOTE]
There has been a mistake. Ihavent used Vip-Girls.
I have used girls that considered themselves 'vip'. I used vip as a term and not a name of a company or agency. That is the reason why 'vip' is written in parenthesis and in small letters.
I ment girls WGs that considered themselves 'vip'.

regards
and sorry for the misunderstanding

Any answers or opions for my previous post below?

[QUOTE=Cenghas]I've started to visit Seranda for the last few months.

Each time I've went at least with one or more friends.

As described in the forum, each we talked about the menu upfront. We've discussed with around 9-12 girls. All refuse to DFK (infact even K is refused forget about the Deep and French part). All refused" BJ (again forget about the Bare even Covered is refused)

When I do same in Bacardi, similar girls (We usually get both places for stunners) accepts DFK and BJ. Even sometimes I didn't asked them about the menu but get the DFK,BBJ,DATY.

I guess we doing something wron in Seranda.

Any hints?[/QUOTE]

"No I have not. Actually you posted previously that you had tried "Vip Girls". So you should know if they are good or not. I sent them my phone and they called me back. They are asking 200 EUR / hour. This is too much, unless they are extremely beautiful."

I have used a couple of girls brought by [url]http://escorts.gnomick.com/[/url]. They seem to be sending girls regularly over thepast year or two. they were 250\300 euro/hour. Very expensive and beyond my typical range but I was hopeless at these times. İf you go bacardi to with all the tipping the bill sums up to almost that much too. They were indeed very attractive girls but their service was nothing vey special.

Cenghas,

I have similar experience like you. But on my last visit about a month ago there was one plesant surprise waiting for me. DFK+French kissing was on the menu that too witout asking for it at during negotiations. she was from Ukraine, forgot her name. Really sorry. Was so drunk!

[QUOTE=Quarterbread]"No I have not. Actually you posted previously that you had tried "Vip Girls". So you should know if they are good or not. I sent them my phone and they called me back. They are asking 200 EUR / hour. This is too much, unless they are extremely beautiful."

I have used a couple of girls brought by [url]http://escorts.gnomick.com/[/url]. They seem to be sending girls regularly over thepast year or two. they were 250\300 euro/hour. Very expensive and beyond my typical range but I was hopeless at these times. İf you go bacardi to with all the tipping the bill sums up to almost that much too. They were indeed very attractive girls but their service was nothing vey special.[/QUOTE]
This following website propose much more "reasonable" rates , did somebody "experiment" its services :

[url]http://www.vsescortservices.com/[/url]

Dear all,

This is my first post to ISG. I've been helped so much in the past that I feel the need to reciprocate someway. :-)

Italian, I stood 1 week in Istanbul. My impression is that it is really worth a visit. Based on most travel reports read in this forum, I went almost every evening to Aksaray. I spent much more that planned, but surely the ratio cost/benefit is advantageous, compared to almost all other places I visited worldwide. So many stunning girls, available to play, and for an affordable price!

The map in the report of distinction #357 is really *helpful*. Accurate, both in the map and in the bar description. I confirm everything stated there.

Many thanks to the poster.

Actually, the real problem in Aksaray is avoiding bars designed to squeeze money to tourists. I didnt find real rip-offs, but surely I experienced places where the unique aim was overcharging. Often, I got the impression to be charged more than average, being a tourist. Though, compared to prices we'd be asked to pay in most European countries (not to mention USA!), it is still convenient.

Moreover, I suggest to avoid all places where men take people outside and literally push them inside (common habit there).

However, it is a safe area. I've never been harassed or felt in danger, although such a surrounding (or some dark bars) would make people to worry in most foreign towns. This is a reason why to like Turkey (or just Istanbul?).

I hope it will not change in the future.

This is a summary of my experience.

Note: all bars were sampled after 11pm, till even 3am.

HOTELS

Most girls met in bars of Aksaray will take you by taxi (5 YTL) to nearby hotels. Charge: 70 YTL. Mostly clean. In one case I found the bed used and not cleaned!

LEO

They have a car and stay in the road, watching the people and doing nothing. One night they came by bus and took about 10 girls away from Nokia Bar. They took them away by bus. Really curious, why that bar and why at that time? While all other bars were going on with their business? (I guess, but I do not say)

Done so, the LEOs in normal clothes went away shaking hands to policemen in uniform. After half an hour, all girls, disappeared in the back of all bars on police arrival, showed up again from nowhere.

(By the way, the bar business is legitimate. They just offer drinks to customers. Girls are regular customers there. I guess police just wanted to check passports)

IRMAK BAR

I agree with most posts. Average good quality of girls. Not a rip-off, but not so honest as I read in some post. Advisable though. I do recommend it.

I went there 3 times. Each time, I had 1 drink for me and 1 for a girl. The bill, surprisingly, changed: about 32 YTL (I gave 50, they didnt return change keeping the rest as "tip"), then 50, then 32. Each time I had to buy a rose to the girl (5). Each time I was called repeatedly "my friend! my friend!" while they were asking for tips and presenting a variable bill.

Girls:

Irina, Russia. Lovely, very sweet and stunning. All covered. Asked 150 YTL for 2 hours, I gave 200.

Romania, very young, 18, very beautiful, bbbj, looked still in training phase for this. Not shy though, even aggressive somehow. Asked 200 (2h), I offered 150, accepted. BBBJ.

Moldavia: Lovely, stunning. BBBJ. Offered BBFS, but I obviously refused and I recommend everybody to refuse it! Asked 100, 2h, I gave 150.

BACARDI

The most stunning girls, but so expensive. I was charged 100 YTL, + 20 tip, +20 tip at the exit (!).

I picked from dance floor an exceptional girl from Kyrgyzstan, 2 months in Istanbul. So slim and tender, sweet! 21yo.

We went to my hotel (I usually do not trust a girl so much).

Excellent! 200 YTL. BBBY. Offered BBFS, but I obviously refused.

Too bad I live so far from there. She is so nice.

GOLD CAN

I agree, it is advisable. They do not overcharge. Good for girls from Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, etc. Average quality low, but if we are patient, then we may be lucky. I saw at least 3 girls that were definitely attractive. Mandatory rose to the girl (5).
I picked up a beautiful girl from Uzbekistan, 27yo, 150 YTL 2h. Very sleazy, soft body but good shape and beautiful face. BBBY. Offered BBFS, I refused.

SULTAN PUB

This the only for which I disagree with the report of distinction #357. It says "Clean, correct service and a good selection of girls.". I was overcharged (50) for nothing. Old women. The only beautiful and young girl was a Romanian, who said "I dont suck. No Romanians do it in Istanbul". (not true, as I saw).

BIG PUB

This turned to be my favourite. It was the only place which I could call *honest*.
I've never been overcharged: I payed never more than 31 YTL (1 drink for me, 1 for the girl).

Turkish musik and popular people dancing on the floor.

Girls are mostly old and ugly, but with patience I found a gem: Lena 35yo (but looked 25), beautiful, sweet and capable. BBBY. Offered BBFS, I refused. 150 YTL 2h.

UNNAMED PUB.

Sorry I dont remember the name. Close to Golden Can.

I was going home, after having worked on the last girl from Irmak, when I saw an attractive Turkish girl entering this pub.

Not included in the list of the report of distinction #357. Avoid it. I was overcharged (50+20 tip) and with all waiters and the DJ around me wanting to help with the girl (?). So annoying.

I went with the girl (Sibel). She is so beautiful. BBBY. Offered BBFS, I refused. 150 YTL 1h.

The hotel asked 100 YTL (it was 4am). Sorry I dont remember the name.

OTHER BARS

I tried some. Nothing good. I exited before being "forced" to sit and drink.

Well folks, I hope that these notes will be useful to somebody.

Best regards to all.

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Just a final note: I hope that NT will like this report.

When I went to Istanbul, I asked his help by PM, since I had no previous knowledge of the city except this forum. I noticed that he is one of the best reputed and most frequent posters here.

He was very cold in refusing to help me, saying that the point is not reciprocating (I honestly admitted that I was asking some help without having the possibility to reciprocate, since I was new) but contributing to the forum.

Well, as you see, I am available to contribute, but how could I do it *before* visiting Istanbul?

It is not my intention to argue, but surely I've been disappointed when I read his reply.

Best regards again.

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]