Bangkok Reports

This flood is very much related to my mongering habit in BKK. I want to know what the situation is like around the play areas. G. You've got my vote.

Spaceman

Friday. 04. 11. 2011, 10:00 am: Areas in Lat Phrao flooded, levels rising. Water in front of Chao Phraya Park hotel on Ratchadapisek Road.

That's here:

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Chaophya+Park+Hotel&fb=1&hq=Chaophya+Park+Hotel&cid=0, 0.8554025009856024625&ei=XlizToGxCIzorQfb4OW8Aw&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&ved=0CDQQ_BI.[/url]

Bloomberg: Yingluck Banks on $26B Rebuilding Plan
[url]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-03/yingluck-banks-on-26-billion-plan-after-thai-flood-stumble-.html[/url]

The Nation: Crocs attack
[url]http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Lak-Si-resident-attacked-by-crocodile-30169215.html[/url]
(that's new, I thought all crocs are working in Nana and Cowboy)


Giotto

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1213448].

We do no not underestimate the broadness of the flood, but it is not as wide as depicted (still we feel simpathy for those affected, even if it is only a small soi)

[/QUOTE]1/5 of Bangkok is flooded right now. The problem is, that nobody really knows where this run-off stops. The natural way off the northern run-off leads through Bangkok, and there are still huge quantities out there in the north.

The water is closing in on the center of Bangkok every day. It has not been stopped yet. The information and statements we get from all sides are contradicting. The specialist who was most precise in his predictions up to now is a guy named Dr. Seri. He expects the water to reaching Victory monument within the next few days.

My impression is, that the water will NOT reach the Sukhumvit mongering areas, [b]if it does not start to rain. [/b]

Flood simulation:
[URL]http://ws3-er.eng.hokudai.ac.jp/dpr/dpr_eng/?p=736[/URL]

Bangkok Post: Lat Krabang estate at risk
[URL]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/264625/lat-krabang-estate-at-risk[/URL]
(looking at the map of this piece, do I see the airport there somewhere :) ? )


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto; 1213430]LOL,

First participating in the "Flood Reporting Crap", then even politicizing it. And now crying like a baby for the father to clean up.

Text book example for hypocrisy.

Giotto

PS: Calm down, it's just a "Little Flood". [b]430 + people dead up to now. [/b][/QUOTE]You Giotto, advised people not to come to Bangkok as it would all be flooded.

I said come, it will not affect the mongering area's. You have continued your scare stories before and after and you are wrong.

With regards to 430 dead, it was well over 300 before the floods hit Bangkok, and you did not seem to care over 300 were dead in the north, north east and centre plains. When the water arrived into Bangkok you started caring, just like all Bangkok people. Its a problem if it affects you, and if it does not then you are as quiet as a mouse about it.

Perhaps since you are quoting the figure you might like to clarify how many are dead in Bangkok, and how many in the rest of Thailand.

This subject should be in the expats section as it simply has nothing to do with Bangkok reports, or mongering in Bangkok.

You should feel ashamed Giotto for telling people not to visit Bangkok some weeks back. All you have done is made people change or cancel their trips when there was no need to at all.

Sure, come if you're already booked, there's still fun to be had, but in my opinion FAR less fun than if the country didn't have to deal with this flood disaster. More girls than ever are simply back home moving their families around and dealing with day to day troubles. If you have to hunt for bottled water, yes it does classify as a serious situation. The lower tap water quality also means issues for restaurant meals as well. They don't use bottled water at most places like Fuji, MK, Sizzler, etc. For cooking. They use large bulk water filters. These sometimes can't handle the extra contaminants. The RO filter at my house here at the moment, we have to change the rough filter every 3 days at the moment because we can visually see huge sediment buildup. Normally, we only have to change it once a month.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1213501]And, about the only way you will get it from a P4P girl is if she has it, and the mosquito that bites her decides to bite you on your bare ass next![/QUOTE]I saw my doctor this morning and just for fun asked him if it was possible to get dengue from a bargirl. He had a good laugh and said, 'Only from the daytime ones! '

[QUOTE=The Pro; 1213609]You Giotto, advised people not to come to Bangkok as it would all be flooded.[/QUOTE]The Pro,

You should at least stick with the truth. Here the link to my report with my personal view of the situation (26. 10. 2011) :

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1210312&viewfull=1#post1210312[/URL]

I never "advised people not to come to Bangkok as it would all be flooded", I clearly pointed out the reasons why I would not recommend to travel to Bangkok that time.

Will think about whether I have to be ashamed about what I have written.


Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]

PS: In regards of water not reaching mongering areas, look at the map below, showing the Chaophya Park Hotel (E) and Poseidon Entertainment Complex (A).
[URL]http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Poseidon+bangkok&fb=1&hq=Poseidon&hnear=0x311d6032280d61f3:0x36458563858b0fc7,Bangkok,+Thailand&ei=aYyzTsXiBM3PrQequIXXAw&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=image&ved=0CAYQtgM[/URL]

The Economist: Rising damp.
[url]http://www.economist.com/node/21536652[/url]

Asien Correspondent: Thailand floods threaten Bangkok subway
[url]http://asiancorrespondent.com/68893/thailand-floods-threaten-bangkok-subway/[/url]

Picture: Outside Lat Phrao MRT station
[url]http://yfrog.com/h3mfagxaj[/url]


Giotto

The "flood" subject should be debated here and notbin the expat forum.

Expats do not need advices or reports as either their feet are dry or wet: the can see and notice that!

It is the faring planning a trip who should know what is going on, where and how.

Canceling a trip in a disaster area is also wiser since the locals will have less people to worry about.

Especially in terms of supplies (food and water) that are orvcan challenged at this time.

Less demand of water will also avoid price speculations since farangs will be paying whatever price (and will still becfar cheaper than at home)

It might affect temporarily the local economy, very true.

But it is affected anyhow with or without visitors.

If for instance LL is fully dry but can't get food supplies on regular basis or it is heavily understaffed, what's the point of creating aggravations!

Not for nothing lots of locals moved to Pattaya.

A medical remedy is to put the patient in artificial coma, to light a lot of body functions and alleviate its work.

It's an ill wind that blows no good and I imagine builders and sandbag sellers are making a killing at the moment. But these impromptu walls that are springing up everywhere are not without their dangers. Witnessed this at first hand yesterday when I watched an elderly lady try to clamber over one outside a restaurant. She tripped and went flying headfirst into glass plate doors. Luckily the glass held and her flying headbutt did not appear to have inflicted permanent damage on the poor dears cranium. But I wonder if retail establishment in Thailand are required to have liability insurance? I guess not.

Updated map 04. 11. 2011, 5 pm:

[url]http://maps.google.fr/maps/ms?msid=203278216882407399461.0004af623e23c9dccde11&msa=0&ll=13.808076,100.565243&spn=0.09752,0.181789[/url]


Giotto

Land of Smiles aka Land of maximum confusion, just cancelled my trip, end of story!

The only thing I can add is Thank God for making Thai people- have you heard any whining and complaining to the world? No. If this was New Orleans with fat dumpy lazy americans waiting for 'the gubmint' to come save them we would hear no end about how they were suffereing.

I think Giotto is doing the right thing by making people aware of the situation hands on. He is better placed being there to guide us what is the real situation.

Also ultimately if hes asking people to postpone its for their not his benefit. Being a lodge owner if his guests cancel he loses money but besides thenpoint taking time out to update prospective people planning a trip to Bangkok is a great thing in my opinion.

Surely some areas are not flooding at this stage but is there a guarantee it would be same in 2 or 3 days from today? Atleast whosoever is planning is better prepared thanks to his daily updates. I don't think he needs to be ashamed for being helpful and getting the word out.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Capitalized On;1213722]The only thing I can add is Thank God for making Thai people- have you heard any whining and complaining to the world? No. If this was New Orleans with fat dumpy lazy americans waiting for 'the gubmint' to come save them we would hear no end about how they were suffereing.[/QUOTE]There isn't much complaining to the world, but there certainly is a lot of complaining in general. People are blaming the gov't for mismanagement of the situation and there is growing discontent that too many folks are taking a bullet for the sake of central Bangkok. There are definitely thieves out and about taking advantage of abandoned homes. That said, it is better than the whole Katrina mess of looting and whining.