Manila

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2099249] they are prostitutes and their job is to suck dick for money.[/QUOTE]Correction: Their job is to suck MY dick for money.

[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2098820]I know this does not relate directly to Manila, but I put it here as a response to GT's questions--and because it's really about sidetrips from Manila.

GT, you've gotten lots of good advice on most aspects of your plan. You seem to have midas' touch; many first time visitors who ask questions get the proverbial RTFF. You, on the other hand, have people falling all over themselves to help you. Perhaps you have a wonderful reputation that precedes you from one of the other forums. I will join the helpful procession.[/QUOTE]Thanks Soapy, and thanks to everyone else for their generous advice. I don't think regulars on a Forum expect newbies to have read everything, but to at least have made an effort and have a clue about what to do. I try to do that and seek expert feedback, which I find most mongers are ready to do. So I guess that's why everyone's being so helpful. And yes, check my record elsewhere and you will see I do normally file useful field reports.

Salty Pete, your advice is the hardest for me to internalize, although I know it's true. I tend to over-organize and assume I have Girl A slotted in at lunch, and Girl be for dinner, and start to worry about how I am going to ditch A in time to mate with be, when what I really need to do is have Girls A, be and see lined up for lunch and hope one of them shows up.

The more I look at it, the more I think my idea of taking a two day beach holiday near Manila is just not going to work out. Soapy, I had seen Tanza Oasis but, like you, wondered why they don't show you the beach. And anything I have seen so far is more or less a 3 hour jaunt from Manila, which will be hard for me to manage in my short time frame. So I may just book a nice hotel in Manila with a pool and make a mini-holiday there. At least that way I can continue to work a roster of girls if I don't find a gem right away.

Thanks everyone,

GT.

[QUOTE=GentlemanTravel;2099374]

The more I look at it, the more I think my idea of taking a two day beach holiday near Manila is just not going to work out. Soapy, I had seen Tanza Oasis but, like you, wondered why they don't show you the beach. And anything I have seen so far is more or less a 3 hour jaunt from Manila, which will be hard for me to manage in my short time frame. So I may just book a nice hotel in Manila with a pool and make a mini-holiday there. At least that way I can continue to work a roster of girls if I don't find a gem right away.

Thanks everyone,

GT.[/QUOTE]That is what I did in February. I planned to take a girl to Boracay but it was Chinese New Year's and the flights were booked; the only available hotels were under $40 and above $500/ night. So I got a room in Sofitel Philippine Plaza for 3 nights and brought my own girl. The hotel was very elegant and had a beautiful campus, but very expensive and I thought the room was sub-par. Breakfast buffet was quite expensive. My girl told me that "she heard" the Shangri-La resorts in Manila were a better deal and had nicer rooms. You may want to look there, even if they are not on the water. (I did save a lot of money on airfare).

[QUOTE=MangoKing;2094902]
Day 13.

Had afternoon session booked with 2 college girls offering non-lesbian threesome. Both girls where slim and 21 yo. Negociated 8 k total with them. I canceled though due to being too tired. What a shame![/QUOTE]How easy or difficult is it to get two girl or soft lesbi fun going with Filipina girls? In some cultures (Eastern Europe, for example) it is pretty easy, if you are paying, and not that hard sometimes even if you are not.

But I would have assumed that Philippines is a more conservative culture and girls might be not welcome the idea of sharing their man with another girl, and especially sharing another girl.

I'd like to find a "girlfriend" to stay with me a couple of days, but it would be icing on the cake if we could spice that up by having one of her girlfriends visit one night. But will I put a non-pro girl off if I suggest that?

GT.

[QUOTE=GentlemanTravel;2099385]How easy or difficult is it to get two girl or soft lesbi fun going with Filipina girls? In some cultures (Eastern Europe, for example) it is pretty easy, if you are paying, and not that hard sometimes even if you are not.

But I would have assumed that Philippines is a more conservative culture and girls might be not welcome the idea of sharing their man with another girl, and especially sharing another girl.

I'd like to find a "girlfriend" to stay with me a couple of days, but it would be icing on the cake if we could spice that up by having one of her girlfriends visit one night. But will I put a non-pro girl off if I suggest that?

GT.[/QUOTE]In my case very easy and if you know the girl well and she likes you then ask her if she any friends who are lesbian and if she likes that style of play. Get the reaction and play it from there. I have had lesbian sisters and lesbian mom / daughter but then I had time on my hands and was patient. Others don't have the time but my advice regardless is ask if she like the idea, show a soft lesbian video clip and gauge from there. Some I know and see are horrified at lesbian action, some intrigues (so I have girls I know to deviriginise them. A yummy treat for everyone) and some say OK. Depends on the reaction so watch the body language etc.

[QUOTE=Wazoo;2069259]I'm back from a long Philippines trip and just getting caught up with my reports. I had a long list of GF types to see from DIA and Pinalove so didn't expect to spend any time in bars. I arrived late at night at my room at the Rothman Hotel in Ermita because it was convenient for a meeting the next day. It has been 5 years since I was in Ermita last. Unable to sleep, I decided to wander around the old haunts. I had a beer at G-Point to check in the scene. There was some cute FLers there that might have appealed to me on a night that I was less jet-lagged. I made the short walk to LA Cafe to have another beer and planned to head on to bed after. I wasn't expecting much. Within 5 minutes, I was approached by a FL showing off a jaw-dropping body in hot pants, heels, and a tight t-shirt. (See my post in the pic forum.) She seemed sweet and friendly to boot. I knew I had struck gold here and didn't even think twice. This one had one of the most flawless bodies of any woman I have been with. 5 minutes later we were on the way back to Rothmans. She held my hand and hugged me the entire way. I had forgotten how sweet these Filipino FLers can be and was thanking my lucky stars to be back in the promised land. The next two hours was a blur of deep kissing and mattress-busting activities until we both were spent. I slept like a rock all night. She gave me her contact info, but I never had time to see her again. I got so busy with the GF types and work after that, I never had a free night.[/QUOTE]So Wazoo, what's the damage for a girl like Miss Hot Pants?

I like the sounds of LA Cafe, compared with other pick up bars. I hate the bar fine thing, and I like freelancers.

I see myself being in exactly the same situation when I arrive in Manila, late at night, jet-lagged and unsure if I have the energy for a full night of fun. Ideally I would like to find a place for a quick BJ on the premises. But your night of fun sounds better!

[QUOTE=GentlemanTravel;2099402]So Wazoo, what's the damage for a girl like Miss Hot Pants?

I like the sounds of LA Cafe, compared with other pick up bars. I hate the bar fine thing, and I like freelancers.

I see myself being in exactly the same situation when I arrive in Manila, late at night, jet-lagged and unsure if I have the energy for a full night of fun. Ideally I would like to find a place for a quick BJ on the premises. But your night of fun sounds better![/QUOTE]I think there is an inexpensive hotel either next door, or a few doors down, from LAC.

[QUOTE=GentlemanTravel;2099402]I like the sounds of LA Cafe, compared with other pick up bars. I hate the bar fine thing, and I like freelancers.[/QUOTE]Girl quality in LAC sucks if that matters to you. Don't get me wrong, if you are in the neighborhood it is always worth checking out. I enjoy the atmosphere and the circus circus. You might find a rare diamond in the rough and if you are don't care much about looks, there are plenty of very friendly FL's hanging out there. The call is up to you.

Talking about FL's and SW's, I have had much better luck with Burgos Street "massage girls". I fondly recall my last one, a cute as she could be, barely 18 year old. Great girl / good times. I have never seen a girl like her in LAC.

And lastly this is a "when in Rome" suggestion: don't resist it, unless you can't afford it. A much better selection of girls, quality wise, ARE found in Burgos & EDSA Bars. If you want the sexy girls you will have you put up with the barfine at least until you get to know the girls. Then they will come straight to you bypassing the barfine.

[QUOTE=ShimShimhey;2092378]I'm traveling to Manila for the first time. I am Japanese-Hawaiian but I often pass for a Filipino. Looking like a local, would this put a damper on my fun with the women? I heard that many Filipinos (especially those in the P4P industry) heavily prefer Caucasians.[/QUOTE]For P4 P it should not matter. The girls have seen and done everything with people from all over the world. Only question is money.

On the other hand if looking to date normal girls it may work to your advantage. Being with a Philippino looking person they may avoid being perceived as P4 P. Once again money is the king. If they think you are cheap they may shy away from you.

Being with a Caucasian used to be a big ego booster for the girl. Not anymore. Just my 2 cents.

Hey guys,

My report is on Club Urbanite in Pasay. It has two floors. Supposedly very new, maybe 2 weeks. The mamasan and papasan tried to hustle us every chance they got so YMMV.

First floor:

- empty on a Friday night at 11:30 PM.

- there is a stage that is sandwiched by two rows of seats and tables.

- 40 girls will line up.

- girls are actually very cute. Many had the pale skin Eastern Asian look. All dressed like club goers Vegas, all wore black. But there were no tall, leggy model types.

- 6,000 bar fine for 2 hours.

- 350 for drinks.

- Papasan wanted a 1,000 tip LOL.

- it is an open area and the papasan told me anyone can request music and sing. I didn't stick around the first floor long enough to see if this is true.

Second floor:

- maybe 2-3 customers that I saw.

- entrance fee 1,500.

- this floor had a live band, booths and a few karaoke rooms.

- another set of 40 girls will line up. Similar quality maybe slightly better girls compared to downstairs.

- 4,000 bar fine for 2 hours.

- I think booths are free as long as you pay the entrance fee and bar fine.

- 2,500 per person for 2 hours of karaoke room with unlimited drinks.

- the unlimited drinks consisted of two 750 ML bottles with broken seals LOL. One was soju and the other was some whiskey I forgot. No chasers other than water. Girls with you can order free drinks.

- free peanuts.

- the karaoke room is pretty small. It can barely fit 4 people. Also someone from management just had to come in every 10 minutes to talk about nothing. It was so annoying.

Last but not least, an extra 20% if you use credit card LOL. I'm sure I got hustled at every step of the way. They had a drink menu, but no menu for service options. They probably just made up prices on the fly. However I really liked the interior, was beautiful. Seems like they spent a lot of money on it. Looked like a fancy club, but with much brighter lighting. I'm sure the girls are willing to spend some more time with the right guy.

[QUOTE=WilBarry;2099505]Hey guys,

My report is on Club Urbanite in Pasay. It has two floors. Supposedly very new, maybe 2 weeks. The mamasan and papasan tried to hustle us every chance they got so YMMV.

First floor:

- empty on a Friday night at 11:30 PM.

- there is a stage that is sandwiched by two rows of seats and tables.

- 40 girls will line up.

- girls are actually very cute. Many had the pale skin Eastern Asian look. All dressed like club goers Vegas, all wore black. But there were no tall, leggy model types.

- 6,000 bar fine for 2 hours.

- 350 for drinks.

- Papasan wanted a 1,000 tip LOL.

- it is an open area and the papasan told me anyone can request music and sing. I didn't stick around the first floor long enough to see if this is true.

Second floor:

- maybe 2-3 customers that I saw.

- entrance fee 1,500.

- this floor had a live band, booths and a few karaoke rooms.

- another set of 40 girls will line up. Similar quality maybe slightly better girls compared to downstairs.

- 4,000 bar fine for 2 hours.

- I think booths are free as long as you pay the entrance fee and bar fine.

- 2,500 per person for 2 hours of karaoke room with unlimited drinks.

- the unlimited drinks consisted of two 750 ML bottles with broken seals LOL. One was soju and the other was some whiskey I forgot. No chasers other than water. Girls with you can order free drinks.

- free peanuts.

- the karaoke room is pretty small. It can barely fit 4 people. Also someone from management just had to come in every 10 minutes to talk about nothing. It was so annoying.

Last but not least, an extra 20% if you use credit card LOL. I'm sure I got hustled at every step of the way. They had a drink menu, but no menu for service options. They probably just made up prices on the fly. However I really liked the interior, was beautiful. Seems like they spent a lot of money on it. Looked like a fancy club, but with much brighter lighting. I'm sure the girls are willing to spend some more time with the right guy.[/QUOTE]I was there in August, they had just opened up downstairs but not upstairs; I was the only customer. I found it to be a rip-off as well. The location is right next door to EDSA Entertainment. I agree, the interior is top-notch. The girls were dressed better than their EDSA sisters but as most of us know, a dress can obscure more than a bikini can. Both the Mamasan and Papasan were very much in my face and expected tips and drinks; they were very pushy with girls even though I told them that I wanted to choose one myself. 3 minutes later, they threw girl in my lap and told me to buy her a drink. I classified this as a Predator place in my mind, where I was the prey. That doesn't suit me at all, I think of myself as the predator and I like to be in control. I'm not sure how these places remain open, but I imagine they are great for money laundering.

By the way, if karaoke is your thing and you already have a girl, there is a Family karaoke place across EDSA that is MUCH cheaper and more private.

Hi guys,

I want a good looking girls I have tried LAC but the quality bad.

Any suggestion.

Is dating apps good?

Please help me.

[QUOTE=DraculaLover;2101771]Hi guys,

I want a good looking girls I have tried LAC but the quality bad.

Any suggestion.

Is dating apps good?

Please help me.[/QUOTE]Plenty of pretty girls if you look and / or RTFF.

Dating app work also.

Good luck and let us know how you get on and FR as great see a newbie perspective.

[QUOTE=DraculaLover;2101771]

Is dating apps good?

Please help me.[/QUOTE]As a first timer I will be gentle with you and not poke scorn at your inability to look into this forum further.

If you had scrolled further you would have a seen a "Chat rooms and Pen Pals" thread.

Check it out for every dating app review under the sun.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2101991]As a first timer I will be gentle with you and not poke scorn at your inability to look into this forum further.

If you had scrolled further you would have a seen a "Chat rooms and Pen Pals" thread.

Check it out for every dating app review under the sun.[/QUOTE]A decorous response. Between the 2 of us we can take credit for improving the civility of the forum. Atta boy.