Soi 11 Villa Market Alley
[QUOTE=Zman429;2094707]All the shops and girls have there own prices. My one and only was these were very high and bad but I only tried one. The best area is If you go to Soi 11 past the 11/1 connection to villa market you will see a very small hallway go explore in there there are tons of very good shops that only charge 1000 baht plus massage fee. The girl are out at night hawking too. Best I've seen in Bangkok, except for Tulip which you should try see forum.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, it seems that these shops will be shut down in a month or so. According to one of the girls still working there. Many have been vacated already. New development I assume.
Quite unfortunate as it was open at absolutely any time of day and service hasn't been bad for the lesser rates asked for there.
Bangkok and Jakarta, comparatively speaking?
"QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2095281 Don't know what to tell you G. Classic is cheap yes, but no bargain. Good sessions there are not the norm. I think you would grow to dislike the place.
Malio Club is one of my two favorite bordellos in Jakarta, but I have never noticed any Viets in Malio? Maybe you are referring to Malioboro Lounge (same building). Over in Malioboro Lounge they do have Viet imports. Its 1,400,000 rp per session with all the import girls, but they are nothing special in my opinion. I would much rather go with the Indo couch girls some of whom are very attractive and at 800,000 rp ($58) and 1,100,000 rp ($80) represent a much better deal to me than the tired, worn out Classic or Travel girls. Of course, that is just my opinion and your friend is welcome to disagree. The really stand out girls in both Malio Club and Malioboro Lounge are the Indo dancers and guess what? They don't come cheap. Malio Indo dancers are 2,000,000 rp ($146) not including drinks and they expect a customer to buy them drinks, several drinks to get friendly, inspect their goods and get things going. Malioboro Indo dancers are a little less costly at 1,700,000 rp.
On a further note I would add that in my other favorite bordello in Jakarta, the Alexis Hotel, sexy hot little Indo girls there are 1,400,000 rp ($102), so not cheap by any standards, but they are super sexy and really aim to please, so totally worth it in my humble opinion and perhaps a better deal than the one currently on offer in BKK Go Go's except that BKK Go Go girls are take out girls while Malio / Alexis / Kings Cross / Classic / Travel girls are in house until you get to know them better. I think that is a big plus for BKK. But if you want to shop around for Viet girls, Alexis is the place to go in Jakarta. The Alexis import Viets are hot! So naturally their price is sky high. Are you sitting down? Alexis Hotel Viet imports are 2,400,000 rp ($175).
Fortunately for my checking account I prefer the younger Indo girls, but I have given in a few times and gone Vietnamese in Alexis. Comparatively speaking, many Alexis Viets look better than many Lord girls, but not all for sure and you will encounter a lot of bolt-ONS in both groups (not so with the Indo girls). As for service: The Alexis Viets offer excellent service similar to but not quite as dirty as most of my Lord girls at 6000 baht ($181). So they are both very competitively priced against one another. BKK remains more the party town with easy accessibility to most red light places of interest. Jakarta is more spread out and less out in the open. Thus I like to play in Jakarta for limited amounts of time, but I prefer BKK over all. On girl quality alone, I like Thai, Indo and Filipinas almost equally although they look and act very different. Perhaps the Indo girls are my top preference at the moment, but it's very close."
I live in Bangkok but was in Indonesia last week for a welcome break. Rather than compare rupiah to dollars, why not compare a strong baht against a falling rupiah? 404 rupiah to 1 baht last week, cheaper still than 6 months ago. Its difficult to compare like for like. Thailand is easy, too easy. Done to death by naive tourists throwing money around wildly at a decreasing pool of increasingly entitled women in an attempt to impress or mistakenly try to encourage loyalty or spend their way into exclusivity. Clearly this works for some, taken in by Lord girls who said that they loved them. Crucially, the Jakarta scene is thankfully mostly driven by locals and will never be a major tourist destination on the scale of Thailand.
Classic and Travel was 350000 (866 baht) for one or 500000 (1237 baht) for two girls last week. What could you get in Bangkok for that? I've had quite good to very good times in these places by never accepting the first girls that they try and foist on me, making my own choices, and taking time to get to know them a bit. Careful selections in both places can yield some really cute looking girls and some pretty good to very good sessions. Both places are enjoyable; they are dark, a bit grungy and full of women and friendly local guys, especially on a Thursday or Friday night.
Ignoring all similar priced places in Jakarta and moving onto one of the most high end places where local guys feeling flush go for a splurge. Malioboro lounge girls on the couches at 800000 (1980 baht) to 1100000 (2722 baht) are indeed very good value. In Bangkok, that would get you an oil massage girl at Snow White. For as long as I can remember, I've not seen anything remotely attractive there that I would take despite the promises of a pornstar performance. It would still probably not get you anything from Thermae, assuming they agreed to lower themselves to go with a non-Asian customer. Some of the girls at Malioboro from that section had bodies that looked like they were drawn form the imagination of 15 year old boys. Yes, the Vietnamese and Russians are expensive at just under 3500 baht I wonder how much we would be charged for them in Bangkok? 3500 baht, still a long way off the bottom rung at Lord and the local Indonesian guys seemed very keen on the Vietnamese. Malio club dancers are also expensive at the local level but I saw not as many tats, poor plastic surgeries or encountered none of the hardcore attitudes as exhibited in somewhere like Crazy House or Baccara. Even though Malioboro and Malio can be a bit of a hassle at first due to demands for lady drinks, they soon catch on.
One of the most high end places in Jakarta, Alexis, is indeed very high quality and the imports are expensive. The locals are still excellent value compared to anything in Bangkok. You're omitting also the ease with which it is to get women to take home in several ways from tourist friendly and over-priced hotel clubs such as CJs and Bats to more difficult to find clubs. The amount of girls and guys trying to make contact on WeChat becomes a nuisance and Tinder is very lively with a whole range of matches. The most important point is the differing attitudes. I find Indonesian girls refreshingly down to earth and less inhibited, perhaps less jaded and with more of a realistic outlook. Definitely a destination for the adventurous that pays dividends the further out you go.