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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2096997]3 Ex Suzie Wong girls (Pat, Maa, and Noi) were in Shark tonight (they can all do threesomes pretty good based on my past experience) and one ex Sheba girl. Actually Noi was ex-Sheba as well as ex-SW.[/QUOTE]Is Maa really back in buisness. She went to live with her german BF in Chiang Mai 4 years ago. I used to look at her pictures on facebook that time and they seemed so happy. Then suddenly about a year ago she closed down her facebook and it has never come up since. I never did her, only spent a weekend with her and her BF together with Fon from SW that time. Would be nice to see her again.
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For sure you get CIM in BJ parlours. Also should be readily available in Tulip, Mango, Snow White, Cherry, and Bamboo massage at the very least. Eih Toom might be an expert on CIM availability since he mentions it a lot in posts.[/QUOTE]To the original question about the number or percentage of girls in the massage shops in the Phrom Phong area who provide CIM, I would have no idea since I am not sure I have ever gotten as far as cumming in mouth or otherwise in any of those massage shops. lol. And that is despite the fact that I have had sessions in places like Cherry, Mango, Tulip (as I recall, not sure now since it was a few years ago) and Bamboo (not Phrom Phong area, of course). And I had sessions with girls who were highly touted on these boards for providing such fine GFE or PSE service. But for me they didn't. Those kind of shops are obviously not my thing since I found the service in them to be so mechanical and so utterly lacking in eroticism, in a couple of cases so weird and counterproductive in terms of so-called "skills", particularly in the oral realm (I am not interested at all in butt-play), that I just called off the session, cleaned up and went on my way without finishing.
I did have a BBBJ+CIM finish once with a girl in an ordinary massage shop in the Khaosan Road area and with a couple of girls I took from the shops in the Soi 11 Villa Market arcade area, all of which are set to be closed down by the end of the year for some other kind of development. But never in any of the so-called PSE shops as I recall. I did have girls in those shops I mentioned above start to provide a purported BBBJ+CIM for me. But I found the skills and atmosphere so lacking in what it would take to get me off that way I have no idea what they really would have done at the finish since I never got close to finishing with them.
As of this writing, my most rewarding BBBJ+CIM experiences in Thailand have all been with go-go dancers, beer bar girls, freelancers, BJ Bar girls and just regular non P4P dates, girls I have met online, in restaurants and mall shops around town.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2097216]To the original question about the number or percentage of girls in the massage shops in the Phrom Phong area who provide CIM, I would have no idea since I am not sure I have ever gotten as far as cumming in mouth or otherwise in any of those massage shops. lol. And that is despite the fact that I have had sessions in places like Cherry, Mango, Tulip (as I recall, not sure now since it was a few years ago) and Bamboo (not Phrom Phong area, of course). And had sessions with girls who were highly touted on these boards for providing such fine GFE or PSE service. But for me they didn't. Those kind of shops are obviously not my thing since I found the service in them to be so mechanical and so utterly lacking in eroticism, in a couple of cases so weird and counterproductive in terms of so-called "skills", particularly in the oral realm (I am not interested at all in butt-play), that I just called off the session, cleaned up and went on my way without finishing.
I did have a BBBJ+CIM finish once with a girl in an ordinary massage shop in the Khaosan Road area and with a couple of girls I took from the shops in the Soi 11 Villa Market arcade area, all of which are set to be closed down by the end of the year for some other kind of development. But never in any of the so-called PSE shops as I recall. I did have girls in those shops start to provide a purported BBBJ+CIM for me. But I found the skills and atmosphere so lacking in what it would take to get me off that way I have no idea what they really would have done at the finish since I never got close to finishing with them.
As of this writing, my rewarding BBBJ+CIM experiences in Thailand have all been with go-go dancers, beer bar girls, freelancers, BJ Bar girls and just regular non P4P dates, girls I have met online, in restaurants and mall shops around town.[/QUOTE]Going to Thailand in a week and I'm looking for some massage-time. I mailed Cherry Massage and they assured me that BBBJ, RIM, CIM are standard. This sounds all very nice indeed. However, they avoided my question about which girls provide CIM + swallow. My experience with freelancers or regular Thai girls is that some swallow, but only if they like you. I don't have time to experiment this time round so it would be nice to know beforehand.
I read here that Candy at Snow White is a swallower. Is that still the case? Which other girls are known swallower?
I read bad reviews about Katherine at MyThaiTourGuide, so that one's off the list.
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[QUOTE=Brubang;2097222]Going to Thailand in a week and I'm looking for some massage-time. I mailed Cherry Massage and they assured me that BBBJ, RIM, CIM are standard. This sounds all very nice indeed. However, they avoided my question about which girls provide CIM + swallow. My experience with freelancers or regular Thai girls is that some swallow, but only if they like you. I don't have time to experiment this time round so it would be nice to know beforehand.
I read here that Candy at Snow White is a swallower. Is that still the case? Which other girls are known swallower?
I read bad reviews about Katherine at MyThaiTourGuide, so that one's off the list.[/QUOTE]In my opinion, BBBJTCWS ought to be included on massage shop menus and openly discussed as negotiable options among mamasans and their girls in the go-go bars, beer bars, among freelancers and so on as well as BBFS. But, of course, they are not. There is just too much weird reaction attached to discussions of those two particular activities in Thailand. When seasoned "experts" here and elsewhere assure the rest of us we should have no qualms or hesitation about asking mamasans and papasans in this or that venue which girls provide this or that service because, you know, "they've heard it all before, you can't shock them", my impression is they are not talking about BBBJTCWS or BBFS.
I suspect most Thai mamasans and papasans would at least feign mild shock and disgust if you asked them which of their girls will engage in either of those activities with you as a customer and would not point out any of them for you. It's not that their girls don't do it. Some will for some customers just like almost everything else. It's just that Thai people would not be inclined to admit openly that they do it and would not want it mentioned publicly that they do. And when you scratch the surface of the "experts" who assured us we ought to go right ahead and "ask the mamasans and girls about anything you want because they can't be shocked. Really. Anything", even THEY are sometimes shocked to discover many of us have an idea that "anything" ought to naturally, calmly and logically include finishing a blowjob fully and completely as god meant it to be finished as well as having penile-vaginal sexual intercourse the way god meant us to have it. LOL.
I know it would be hard for some here to believe but within the past 3-4 years there were a couple of Thai escort service agencies whose online websites did include "swallowing" as a service option the girls could put a check mark next to on their profiles right there with DFK, BBBJ, CIM, Rimming, Couples, A+ Level Service, etc. I don't remember the names of those escort services and can not now find any online with that same format that includes "swallowing". But they did exist and, lo and behold, there was a girl or two on each of them that did have a lovely check mark next to that option in their profiles. Their photos suggested they were at least as attractive as the other girls too. I have no idea why that format was changed in just the last handful of years and why "swallowing" no longer appears as an option in such a format. But I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the agencies had to drop it and remove that option from their list because the rare girlsl who boldly put a check mark next to that service on the list were getting all the bookings and none of the other girls were making any money. LOL. Same likely outcome if BBFS was included on such a list and only a couple of girls put a check mark next to it.
I would say your experience as you mentioned in the quote above is still about right on the subject. Like BBFS, Swallowing is done and probably done by more girls than most would believe. It just depends on for whom and neither of those services are going to be agreed to across the board with any customer who shows up. So it is not a service one can identify with a particular girl with any confidence that she would provide it for the next guy because that girl might say no to me and yes to almost every other man she meets or vice versa. Sure, if it was included on the menu as it used to be included on a couple of escort service website formats, then the girls who put a check mark next to that service could reasonably be relied upon to do it for whoever shows up. But that isn't how Thailand handles or regards those activities. Yet.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2097414]I suspect most Thai mamasans and papasans would at least feign mild shock and disgust if you asked them which of their girls will engage in either of those activities with you as a customer and would not point out any of them for you[/QUOTE]Maybe, maybe not. I think it may be a somewhat common request for Thai's. I was in Alaina soapy and the mamasan just straight up said to me "I can tell you which girl not use condom if you like that, no problem. " They said this because they knew I lived in the area and wanted my repeat business. I didn't have the nerve to answer yes to her question LOL, not that I don't mind BBFS. Also the girls at alaina, selection is too few so I don't really care if they did offer BBFS anyway.
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[QUOTE=ParkVille;2097421]Maybe, maybe not. I think it may be a somewhat common request for Thai's. I was in Alaina soapy and the mamasan just straight up said to me "I can tell you which girl not use condom if you like that, no problem. " They said this because they knew I lived in the area and wanted my repeat business. I didn't have the nerve to answer yes to her question LOL, not that I don't mind BBFS. Also the girls at alaina, selection is too few so I don't really care if they did offer BBFS anyway.[/QUOTE]Then it's a shame the best pro customer service mamasan in all of Thailand is working at a soapy with so few girls. LOL. How long ago was this?
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2097424]Then it's a shame the best pro customer service mamasan in all of Thailand is working at a soapy with so few girls. LOL. How long ago was this?[/QUOTE]2 years ago, back when nataree was still open too. There were like 20 girls available at Alaina during just 1 pm. I went there recently and there were only 4 girls during prime time (8 pm) and I quickly waked out. Soapies are really under stocked now. With so many closing or merging and I'm sure many to close or consolidate soon too. I think maybe girls moved out to places like Macau / everywhere else and all the crack downs had some kind of impact. I also went to Ocean 2 and it was fairly under-stocked compared to before. But not as few as 4 girls (well there were 8 girls and about 3 left as I was walking out so yeah about the same as alaina).
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[QUOTE=ParkVille;2097453]2 years ago, back when nataree was still open too. There were like 20 girls available at Alaina during just 1 pm. I went there recently and there were only 4 girls during prime time (8 pm) and I quickly waked out. Soapies are really under stocked now. With so many closing or merging and I'm sure many to close or consolidate soon too. I think maybe girls moved out to places like Macau / everywhere else and all the crack downs had some kind of impact. I also went to Ocean 2 and it was fairly under-stocked compared to before. But not as few as 4 girls (well there were 8 girls and about 3 left as I was walking out so yeah about the same as alaina).[/QUOTE]I see. In your most recent visit (was it within the past 6 months?), did you happen to encounter the same mamasan you mentioned before? My experiences with soapies, oilies and most other kinds of massage shops have been so abysmal, perhaps only a really pro-actively informative mamasan like the one you mentioned would be the only reason I would bother risking flushing 2,500+ baht or whatever it is down the toilet in one again. Of course, the girl would have to make the cut in terms of attractiveness and a basic level of positive or intriguing attitude as well.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2097467]I see. In your most recent visit (was it within the past 6 months?), did you happen to encounter the same mamasan you mentioned before? My experiences with soapies, oilies and most other kinds of massage shops have been so abysmal, perhaps only a really pro-actively informative mamasan like the one you mentioned would be the only reason I would bother risking flushing 2,500+ baht or whatever it is down the toilet in one again. Of course, the girl would have to make the cut in terms of attractiveness and a basic level of positive or intriguing attitude as well.[/QUOTE]I can't recall if it was the same mamasan. I don't think it was. And my most recent visit was like 2 weeks ago, probably my last too. Oh and their prices were up a lot, from before. Before, it was much more reasonable like 2500. Now it was like 3000-ish and up. I think the Nataree style crackdowns (no Burma / laotion / etc women) hurt the supply / demand factor here.
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Luxury Spa
Hi, I'm visiting Bangkok for a week with the boys on someone's stag do. We are looking for a nice massage parlour which is luxurious, discreet and offers plenty of services! Please let me know of some suggestions!
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[QUOTE=ParkVille;2097453] I also went to Ocean 2 and it was fairly under-stocked compared to before. [/QUOTE]What do you mean by "Ocean 2"? In RatchadaPhisek Soi 7 Alley it is just called Ocean, so are you referring too that or something else?
I seem to recall something with a similar name around Ngam Wong Wian area.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2097665]What do you mean by "Ocean 2"? In RatchadaPhisek Soi 7 Alley it is just called Ocean, so are you referring too that or something else?
I seem to recall something with a similar name around Ngam Wong Wian area.[/QUOTE]Ahah, my memory is failing. It used to be called "Colonze 2" so that's how the extra 2 got in there. Thanks for the clarification otherwise people wouldn't be able to find it.
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Baifern at The Lord
Visited yesterday at 2 PM. Only about 6 girls there and only one girl caught my eye, but she was absolutely gorgeous, a 10. Perfect body, all natural assets, not even a nose job or filler. 23 years old, 170 cm, and long strawberry blond hair with white skin. I didn't waste any time as there were other punters pointing at her. She told me she comes from Khon Khean and studies in Bangkok. She was a K class lady so 6,600 Baht. This is the 3rd or 4th level. I'm not sure about the punter who posted 9-15 K because out to lunch those prices are. However, she did tell me she hates Indian guys so maybe they have their own special inflated prices to discourage them.
Anyways, paid upfront and up to the room. In my opinion, the rooms are getting a little dated but still much better than others. She told me she was very surprised I picked her because she normally doesn't appeal to white men, mostly Asians from HK and Singapore. Anyways she undressed and I was amazed at her perfect body. However she is not one to pamper her customers in the tub or after with a massage. I did get a decent BBJ in the tub. There was a lot of talk from her asking many questions in mixed Thai and English. She was the most wonderful thing to look at in mish, doggy, amd cowgirl. I will never forget the time I spent with her. So in the end if you want to fuck one of the most beautiful model type Thai girls, then run to choose her. However don't expect her to be your PSE or GFE queen. She does not need to be because of her popularity. She's not a star fish either though.
On a side note from our many conversations. She just ended a relationship few months ago. Apparently she was dating a doctor and caught him fucking a married lady. She showed me all the photos from their facebooks and told me the whole drama. This guy must be stupid to have let this one go.
For all you curious George's, she told me the girls split the rates 50/50. She gets 2-3 customers per day, so about 60 K per month as she only works 10 days. She is studying for her MBA.
Miss my Angel already but right after I headed to Saphan Kwai. The only red light district open yesterday.
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[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2099221]Visited yesterday at 2 PM. Only about 6 girls there and only one girl caught my eye, but she was absolutely gorgeous, a 10. Perfect body, all natural assets, not even a nose job or filler. 23 years old, 170 cm, and long strawberry blond hair with white skin. I didn't waste any time as there were other punters pointing at her. She told me she comes from Khon Khean and studies in Bangkok. She was a K class lady so 6,600 Baht. This is the 3rd or 4th level. I'm not sure about the punter who posted 9-15 K because out to lunch those prices are. However, she did tell me she hates Indian guys so maybe they have their own special inflated prices to discourage them.
Anyways, paid upfront and up to the room. In my opinion, the rooms are getting a little dated but still much better than others. She told me she was very surprised I picked her because she normally doesn't appeal to white men, mostly Asians from HK and Singapore. Anyways she undressed and I was amazed at her perfect body. However she is not one to pamper her customers in the tub or after with a massage. I did get a decent BBJ in the tub. There was a lot of talk from her asking many questions in mixed Thai and English. She was the most wonderful thing to look at in mish, doggy, amd cowgirl. I will never forget the time I spent with her. So in the end if you want to fuck one of the most beautiful model type Thai girls, then run to choose her. However don't expect her to be your PSE or GFE queen. She does not need to be because of her popularity. She's not a star fish either though.
On a side note from our many conversations. She just ended a relationship few months ago. Apparently she was dating a doctor and caught him fucking a married lady. She showed me all the photos from their facebooks and told me the whole drama. This guy must be stupid to have let this one go.
For all you curious George's, she told me the girls split the rates 50/50. She gets 2-3 customers per day, so about 60 K per month as she only works 10 days. She is studying for her MBA.
Miss my Angel already but right after I headed to Saphan Kwai. The only red light district open yesterday.[/QUOTE]One of my best ever MP ladies was called BaiFern. It is not same one by any chance? The age sounds about right and coloured hair would be expected. Perhaps not, since I am sure my Bai Fern appealed to Farangs as well. Vivacious, GFE, and a lot of fun, not to mention a perfect body, close to a 10.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2099236]One of my best ever MP ladies was called BaiFern. It is not same one by any chance? The age sounds about right and coloured hair would be expected. Perhaps not, since I am sure my Bai Fern appealed to Farangs as well. Vivacious, GFE, and a lot of fun, not to mention a perfect body, close to a 10.[/QUOTE]Nope. This is her.