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[QUOTE=Cbea20][QUOTE=Mattrick]As the long time member of ISG, 'Spam Hog' always proclaimed: "You can take the girl out of the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl".
There is truth to this truism, but it's too flippant. After a few months working in a bar, the habit of hustling becomes ingrained. Seven years, as mentioned below, is much too long. If you get her within her first few months of bar work, she can be re-trained to respect you.[/QUOTE]Yes, I maintain such then as I do now. My first experience with bar girls began in 1970 in Vietnam, then in BKK on leave. That quote was from a crusty old first Sgt who had been in Vietnam for so many years he forgot all the guys who got sucked in (as opposed to off) by bar girls.
Yeah you can find a few good ones in the herd, MAYBE if you get one not too experienced YOU MIGHT be able to turn her around, but remember she has had 18 years or so of preconditioning and learning by example so IMHO the odds are against it. Also, recall that for a while I did PI work in the Phils and Thailand doing integrity checks, 100% fool around factor for BGs. And just because she is brand "new' at Fat ass Charlies go go shak in Angeles or wherever doesn''t mean she didn't work some little videoke in her home town, this is likely where and how she was recruited for the big city
Once they see how easy it is to make money, THEY NEVER STOP, remember they are human and that means they are subject ot the same foibles as other humans, greed etc and they are women, born with more intuition than we can muster in a life time.
Good luck
Billy
I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?
1) Did not meet her in a bar
2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit
[QUOTE=TrickyRick]I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?
1) Did not meet her in a bar
2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I can only say one thing to you, or to evrybody in here..Once you started something its very hard to stop. Once you give money , she will expect it , cause she get used to it and yes...its NEVER be enough..
If you can afford it send her, make sure its the last, if not , just see what she do when you back, if she will cheat on you, she gonna do it , wether you going to send her money or not :D....needless to say that so many gurls around here bla bla bla....
Blink
Blink has already give you some good advice and I agree with the ornery bstrd.
You have a lot of strategies available to you...
hint that you have other women..."My firends invited me to abc island so I will have only a few days to visit you at xyz island".
Just stop sending messages and eventually state that you've been busy at work.
Claim that your busines failed and can she send you 1000 pesos from WU.
Goood luck.
x
[QUOTE=TrickyRick]I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?
1) Did not meet her in a bar
2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TrickyRick]I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?
1) Did not meet her in a bar
2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit[/QUOTE]I've being a long time reader of this board I must say y would you send a girl you are not interested in money my wife is from the filippines thats the only girl I sent money cus I knew I would marry her and I did but to test her then I had her send me money and she she did anyway were happly married for 2 yrs now and so far so good.
[QUOTE=TrickyRick]I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?
1) Did not meet her in a bar
2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit[/QUOTE]
Once you start giving some Filipinas money it’s like a turning on a faucet that becomes a mighty river :) Don't send money man some of them act like they need it and they can't do without it. Most of the time it’s a scam. Ask yourself this one question how were they getting "along" before you came into the picture?
If you really like this girl, and you really want to help her, you can continue to send her money, but you have to establish the rules and stick to them. First, decide if you want to continue to help her. If the answer is in the affirmative, then you decide how much and when. Explain to her then that you will send her x amount on a given day each month, or whatever you decide the period should be and then explain that this is all she will get. Stick rigidly and without exception to the rules that you've established.
This may or may not be a scam. The simple fact is that, at least in my experience, Filipinas in general are awful at managing money. They're impulse buyers; they do not plan, and as long as they have money in their pockets, they will spend it, on "stuff," on their families or whatever. Don't reinforce their poor financial management habits by indulging any requests and stick to your own rules. She will eventually adjust, once she realizes that you're serious and that she ain't getting any additional funds other than what you promised her.
GE
[QUOTE=D Etat] ...................Ask yourself this one question how were they getting "along" before you came in the picture?[/QUOTE]Good one, I like it.
Whatever you start out with, they will up the ante. Don't forget, all us gringo's have to do is walk out the back yard every morning, look to the skies and the money starts pouring down into our open hands, LOL. You know that, I know that, they know that, LOL.
Start very low and stay there.
On arrival in Phils you can lash out and buy big items for them. Clothes, pay back bill, whatever rocks your boat. Buy the items, do not hand over bundles of cash, there is always cock fighting, casino, cards, blah blah, blah for them to blow your hard earned cash on, LOL. No clue in managing money, most probably cause they never have it, LOL.
[QUOTE=TrickyRick]I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?
1) Did not meet her in a bar
2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit[/QUOTE]
Go for what you know. Or as they say in PI "Up to you." No concerns at all its only money. Thats really not important.
I guess reading TrickyRick‘s post made me want to tell my story. I support a family in Quezon City. Why? I mean I understand the rules of the Philippines quite well and have spent a lot of time there. Yes, I have had lots of friends there and still make a lot of nice new friends there.
But. A couple years ago I met a girl on P. Burgos and now I support her folks and sisters. Wait? You are already to reply and call me countless unspeakable names.
So I had to camp out for ten hours in the 88, the Internet Café on Burgos. I came out all bleary eyed and tired. It was maybe nine at night. I camped out at Makati Palace. I like standing here because I can see the girls who congregate at Makati Palace and those who hang just south of the 7-11. A good view of the street (and not too close to the lady boys).
Two girls walk over and camp out near me in front of Makati Palace. Along comes a third girl and grabs half of original too and drags her off. So now there is on girl in front of Makati Palace. Guy 1 comes up to talk to her. She shakes her head. Guy 2, same thing, Guy 3, same thing, Guy 4, same thing. She seems to be upset. I don’t mean cornball Filipina over the top with drama upset. I mean scared.
So I ask what’s wrong. She says (drum roll please), "All these guys keep asking me how much for sex. " Okay right now most of you have fallen off your chairs with laughter. I point out, "You are standing in front a well know pick up spot for prostitutes. " She looks me dead in the eye and say, "I did not know. This is my first time to Makati. " So I figure she is a province girl. I ask where she is from. She say, "Quezon City". Okay. For those of you who do not know Metro Manila well. QC (Quezon City) is a long town just a couple miles North of Makati. This basically means she is a poor girl likely from the north of QC (yeah, I guessed this right).
So the conversation fades. Another guy approaches. Another guy. She stressed. So finally I say, "Look if you stand next to me they won’t talk to you. " We chat and I invite her to 7-11 (the one on the north end of the street) for soda. I figure it would be better to get her towards the Korean end of things.
Her story. Her moth is sick. She needs $200 and her friend took her to Burgos to be a prostitute. It’s her first time. Okay, so I DO NOT believe it. But she was really scared. So I ask her to McDonald’s. She comes with me back to down to Jupiter and Makati Ave. And we eat. We talk. I get a bit more of the story. She is young. Her friend was pulled away to be with an guy in a hotel. She panicked and couldn’t go through with it. She was standing there waiting for her friend to finish in the hotel because she did not want to go home alone at night.
She has not asked me for money. She just told me how she got to Burgos and why.
So we talk and she asks to go back to my hotel. We make love. Very sweet. Very loving. In the morning. She wakes up before me, showers and leaves. I have to chase her down the hall to give her 500 Pesos. She asks what it is for. I say cab fare. She is hesitant and takes the money. So I see her ever day. Every day I gave her 500 pesos for cab fare (cab fare is about 150 each way to it is only 200 extra over the cost of a cab). She never once asks for money.
I am about to go back home. I invite her to Makati. I give her the $200. Yes, I believe her story. A big part of me doesn’t trust her. But I don’t think she was acting. She was scared on Burgos and had no reason to think up this elaborate game to get the money.
On my next trip her parents wanted to meet me. They are poor. I mean 7 people in an 8 by 8 foot sleeping area. Dad makes 5000 a month. They give me whisky. They give me soda. The uncles and cousins all stop by (there are like 40 people) and I am "the big news. " They all live on the same block.
So we made a contract. She finishes school and does not get pregnant (hey – it’s not the greatest contract but I wanted to be fair to her). I check her grades, etc. So I pay for things like dentist, etc. (her parents are mid-30’s and have no teeth) because when she graduates. Good teeth means a job. I send her sisters to a private school (yes, I get receipts). Etc. I have a company admin who pays the school directly.
I think she is exclusive to me. I don’t think she works as a hooker. Her story has too many truths in it. Heck, I’ve even helped her with homework, etc. Because she has to do homework when she stays over now.
So I think I kept a girl of Burgos. She claims to love me, wants to marry, me, etc. I told her to graduate and we’d talk. I’m 25 years older than she is. So maybe I can save her and her sisters from being Burgos girls – then again. Maybe I am an idiot.
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Ok guys,
So I have been so confused about the filipina that I went all the way back to the first post of this thread and started reading from the beginning. Where I once was full of optimism, I am now down. It is a bummer to read about all the negative things that happened to guys when they married a filipina.
I have only been to Philippines twice now. One thing I know, these chicks make my dick hard. I was married when I was 21, and she was 20. Hawaiian/filipina, raised in Hawaii. I am a white guy, very good looking, and in good shape. It did not work out, but I think mainly because we were both very young and changed over time, but not together. We were only married 3 years. One of the things I regret is not having any children. I wanted to wait until I was out of college and we were better off before having kids. She did not think so, and eventually we grew apart.
Now I am 39, still good looking by many standards, still in shape, bald, and very well off by American standards. I am going to retire in a few years, and will probably not retire in America. I have several properties in Hawaii and was going to settle there, but now am thinking about the PI. I like to surf and play golf, and like the summer weather. Any suggestions about PI?
Can anyone provide me with any positive reasons for marrying a filipina? Seems like many on this site are jaded. Like I said, now I am kinda down. Also, for the first time my honey ko asked me for money last night, and I said I could not get the money to her in time. Her response, "Have you heard of WU there? " Also, her brother just got shot and is in the hospital. Yea. Haven't heard that one before. So, looks like she is finished. Haven't heard from her since I said no to the money (last night).
I just want to find a nice girl to take care of the house and me and provide me with some kids. Is this at all possible? Or am I living in a dream world? Why do all the expats live in PI? Is it just to fuck girls or are some really comfortable?
I am on FH, and finally turned off my profile due to all the crazy emails I get.
Guys, weigh in on the subject, I look forward to reading the responses.
Aloha,
Carmex
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Carmex, you have to remember that people using a web site like this are less likely to be happily married -- more likely happily divorced like myself. And I think it is natural for guys to share the horror stories so that people like you (and me -- I'm still learning) go into a relationship with some smarts. It's like a newspaper -- they sensationalize bad news. Good news..., well, that's not news!
Since you've read way back, you've probably come across posts by GoodEnough and SpamHog -- both are in long term relationships and seem happy. Get your advice from these guys, if possible. I remember a great piece of advice from SH. A 22 year old girl still doesn't know what she will do with her life. Better off to chase the 29 yr old. She's been around the block, knows what she wants, knows her limitations, etc,. (my apologies to SH for my liberal use of paraphrasing).
It seems the odds are much more in your favor if you keep a Filipina spouse in the Philippines.
My own experience is that Men and women are different enough, hooking up with someone of a different culture may be fun in the beginning, but can cause problems down the road. Try to learn more about Phil culture. And when you get into a spat with a significant other, don't assign blame to the cultural/nationality differences. Miscommunications and misunderstandings can
be corrected. Your culture and nationality cannot be changed.
I think you can find a keeper in the Philippines, but follow the good advice you find her at ISG. Bar girls/ cam girls are probably good for fun, but not marriage. There are many exceptions though. Don't be overly generous, especially if you haven't met the person. And whatever you do, don't tell Filipinos that you're "well off" as you have done here at ISG.
X
[QUOTE=Carmex]Ok guys,
So I have been so confused about the filipina that I went all the way back to the first post of this thread and started reading from the beginning. Where I once was full of optimism, I am now down. It is a bummer to read about all the negative things that happened to guys when they married a filipina.
I have only been to Philippines twice now. One thing I know, these chicks make my dick hard. I was married when I was 21, and she was 20. Hawaiian/filipina, raised in Hawaii. I am a white guy, very good looking, and in good shape. It did not work out, but I think mainly because we were both very young and changed over time, but not together. We were only married 3 years. One of the things I regret is not having any children. I wanted to wait until I was out of college and we were better off before having kids. She did not think so, and eventually we grew apart.
Now I am 39, still good looking by many standards, still in shape, bald, and very well off by American standards. I am going to retire in a few years, and will probably not retire in America. I have several properties in Hawaii and was going to settle there, but now am thinking about the PI. I like to surf and play golf, and like the summer weather. Any suggestions about PI?
Can anyone provide me with any positive reasons for marrying a filipina? Seems like many on this site are jaded. Like I said, now I am kinda down. Also, for the first time my honey ko asked me for money last night, and I said I could not get the money to her in time. Her response, "Have you heard of WU there? " Also, her brother just got shot and is in the hospital. Yea. Haven't heard that one before. So, looks like she is finished. Haven't heard from her since I said no to the money (last night).
I just want to find a nice girl to take care of the house and me and provide me with some kids. Is this at all possible? Or am I living in a dream world? Why do all the expats live in PI? Is it just to fuck girls or are some really comfortable?
I am on FH, and finally turned off my profile due to all the crazy emails I get.
Guys, weigh in on the subject, I look forward to reading the responses.
Aloha,
Carmex
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[QUOTE=Flying Saucer]So we talk and she asks to go back to my hotel. We make love. Very sweet. Very loving. In the morning. Because she has to do homework when she stays over now.
So I think I kept a girl of Burgos. She claims to love me, wants to marry, me, etc. I told her to graduate and we’d talk. I’m 25 years older than she is. So maybe I can save her and her sisters from being Burgos girls – then again. Maybe I am an idiot.
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Not trying to sound condescending but dude she met you on a street corner talked to you for a couple of minutes then went back to your hotel room alone and fucked you? This is not typical “good girl” Filipina behavior bruh. Most Filipina I have met would not even spend one day with me alone until they got to know me. Man you sound happy so I don't want to rain on your parade. As long as you are happy that is all that is important.
[QUOTE=Carmex]Ok guys,
So I have been so confused about the filipina that I went all the way back to the first post of this thread and started reading from the beginning. Where I once was full of optimism, I am now down. It is a bummer to read about all the negative things that happened to guys when they married a filipina.
I have only been to Philippines twice now. One thing I know, these chicks make my dick hard. I was married when I was 21, and she was 20. Hawaiian/filipina, raised in Hawaii. I am a white guy, very good looking, and in good shape. It did not work out, but I think mainly because we were both very young and changed over time, but not together. We were only married 3 years. One of the things I regret is not having any children. I wanted to wait until I was out of college and we were better off before having kids. She did not think so, and eventually we grew apart.
Now I am 39, still good looking by many standards, still in shape, bald, and very well off by American standards. I am going to retire in a few years, and will probably not retire in America. I have several properties in Hawaii and was going to settle there, but now am thinking about the PI. I like to surf and play golf, and like the summer weather. Any suggestions about PI?
Can anyone provide me with any positive reasons for marrying a filipina? Seems like many on this site are jaded. Like I said, now I am kinda down. Also, for the first time my honey ko asked me for money last night, and I said I could not get the money to her in time. Her response, "Have you heard of WU there? " Also, her brother just got shot and is in the hospital. Yea. Haven't heard that one before. So, looks like she is finished. Haven't heard from her since I said no to the money (last night).
I just want to find a nice girl to take care of the house and me and provide me with some kids. Is this at all possible? Or am I living in a dream world? Why do all the expats live in PI? Is it just to fuck girls or are some really comfortable?
I am on FH, and finally turned off my profile due to all the crazy emails I get.
Guys, weigh in on the subject, I look forward to reading the responses.
Aloha,
Carmex
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Marriage is a crap shoot with Filipinas or any other woman from any where in the world. If those two involved don’t work at it every single day it just isn’t going to work.
I am not marriage material at this point in my life though I have been in a steady relationship for the last two years... I can’t stay away from the Go-Gos.
If you think you are still going to want to hit the clubs and bars from time to time I would say don’t waste your time. Marriage in my opinion is an archaic institution and is not required to father a child and most Filipinas would jump at the chance to have a child by a foreigner especially an American.
If Filipinas are your thing for the long haul search out one with a college education who has other things on her mind other then the latest fashions and cars. When the lust stops the only thing left is her mind.