American Politics

[QUOTE=Beno69;2517927]What you like to tell us? Is it a Hoax like yor crazy golfplayer told. Or is it good, that the crazy President pushed them to invent a vaccine against a hoax?[/QUOTE]No current president of the USA pushed anybody to invent a vaccine. The inventors all around the world were already swinging into action to invent one as early as February/March of last year when the only current president of the USA that I know about was still on the world stage trying to convince everyone nobody should bother doing anything about it (although he obviously knew better) since the risk was only a politically motivated "HOAX!", mocking mitigation efforts, that there would be near zero cases any minute now, it would go away on its own without a vaccine and would surely be gone on its own by April or by the Fall at the latest.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2517790]So in other words you admit that you're cherry-picking, great![/QUOTE]Actually he just said the total opposite but you have serious issues with reading and understanding.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2517934]What else would you expect from someone supporting trump and Bolsonaro?[/QUOTE]Everyone with a functioning brain supports Trump and Bolsonaro. You're a braindead libtard.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2517611] {SNIP} In cases you missed it, there are currently less deaths per capita in Sweden than in the best country of Europe, Switzerland.[/QUOTE]I guess Denmark (237 deaths / million), Germany (416), Ireland (454), Norway (80) Portugal (692) have left Europe since all have fewer deaths per capita than Sweden.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2517949]... it would go away on its own without a vaccine and would surely be gone on its own by April or by the Fall at the latest.[/QUOTE]Probably true statements. The only question is what year.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2517641]He lost big! Only idiots dispute that fact.[/QUOTE]Don't forget Shoobee the stupid Swede.

When he's asked to state whether Trump won or lost.

He shrinks and melts into a corner, unable to process and answer the question. Like the question is his Kryptonite that's killing him.

Hahahahaha.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2517611]

There are currently 7 times more COVID-19 related deaths in Spain than in Portugal. That must seem inexplicable to you given that they are neighbors and Spain's had even stricter restrictions than Portugal.

In cases you missed it, there are currently less deaths per capita in Sweden than in the best country of Europe, Switzerland.[/QUOTE]

In the last 7 days there were on average 69,9 deaths in Portugal and 144,7 in Spain...7 times more? stricter measures in Spain? no, the same.

Deaths per 100.000 in Sweden currently: 0,6; Belgium: 0,6; France, Netherlands, Denmark, 0,5; Spain: 0,3; Finland, Iceland and Norway: less than 0,1.

So you see, Sweden is the worst amongst nordic countries...probably because of that stupid idea of herd immunity.

More Trump style lies or you got your numbers wrong?

[QUOTE=Tavares;2518066]Deaths per capita in Sweden currently: 0,6; Belgium: 0,6; France, Netherlands, Denmark, 0,5; Spain: 0,3; Finland, Iceland and Norway: less than 0,1.

More lies or you got your numbers wrong?[/QUOTE]Your numbers are incorrect and make no sense.

[URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/URL]

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2517992]Actually he just said the total opposite but you have serious issues with reading and understanding.[/QUOTE]You're the moron who doesn't understand sarcasm. Unlike you I can read between the lines.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2517611]In cases you missed it, there are currently less deaths per capita in Sweden than in the best country of Europe, Switzerland.[/QUOTE]And in case you missed it it has been the opposite during something like 8 months. (like two times less deaths during a loooooong period).

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-19..latest&country=SWE~CHE&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=total&perCapita=true&smoothing=0&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc[/URL]

And guess what they did a few months ago? They eased the restrictions! And guess what they're doing right now? They're toughening the restrictions!

[QUOTE=Tavares;2518066]In the last 7 days there were on average 69,9 deaths in Portugal and 144,7 in Spain...7 times more? stricter measures in Spain? no, the same.[/QUOTE]Counting from the beginning Spain has about seven times the total deaths of Portugal, 50,887 to 7, 118. Shoobree though omitted the population disparity, Spain approaching five times greater which renders the comparison much less significant. What IS quite significant is the comparison between Sweden and their neighbor Norway, the former with 11 times the per capita Covid death rate. This is especially telling given the similar demographics and logistics of the two countries. But you are correct, for as to the recent information over the last two months, Portugal is actually doing worse than Spain when population is considered.

I'll add this for the sake of the overall discussion, and it's not directed at Tavares. Some make a fatal mistake when they assume that "lockdowns" and the like are consistently followed. Yet in many places the masks go on in the streets where the police are checking but come right off for the house parties. Same can be said for inside the bars and night clubs in places where they are open.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2518069]Unlike you I can read between the lines.[/QUOTE]The problem is you can't read the lines.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2518055]Don't forget Shoobee the stupid Swede.

When he's asked to state whether Trump won or lost.

He shrinks and melts into a corner, unable to process and answer the question. Like the question is his Kryptonite that's killing him.

Hahahahaha.[/QUOTE]It's a sure dilemma. If he says yes then he aligns himself with a bunch of moronic conspiracy theories that have been constantly laughed out of court. If he says no then he admits that Trump is a blustering liar.

You know ShoeTroll suffered a heavy head trauma when he he hit the table after sucking dr Tegnell's cock for 6 months. It's easier for him if you show him a nice chart:

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-19..latest&country=ESP~PRT&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=smoothed&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc[/URL]

So since mid November Spain is actually doing better than Portugal concerning confirmed deaths. And if we look at the cumulative confirmed deaths we have 1087 deaths in Spain and 691 in Portugal (per million people). To my knowledge 691 times 7 is not equal to 1087. Mid-April it was the case yes, Spain had 7 times more deaths than Portugal but it was 8 months ago.

The white supremacist website where he finds his arguments needs a good update!

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2518093]And in case you missed it it has been the opposite during something like 8 months. (like two times less deaths during a loooooong period).

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-19..latest&country=SWE~CHE&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=total&perCapita=true&smoothing=0&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc[/URL]

And guess what they did a few months ago? They eased the restrictions! And guess what they're doing right now? They're toughening the restrictions![/QUOTE]So what? There are still more deaths per capita in Switzerland than in Sweden. It only goes to show that even if you are one of the few countries that had any success with the lockdowns all can be undone in a wink of an eye. I laugh when I see the panic in Thailand, Norway and Denmark.

You have displayed time after time that you don't see the full picture. It is like you are autistic, you are obsessing over the numbers of deaths when there are other factors that matters as well.