Medellin Reports

This discussion of using "vos/tu" vs "usted" is interesting to me(maybe not as interesting as the fun with the ladies.....but)

What spanish I know I learned in Argentina and was taught to use vos as well. They don't use vosotros there, but vos is more widely used than tu.

When I spoke with the ladies in Medellin they were surprised that a "gringo" would use "vos", and it brought a smile to their faces. When asked where I learned, I told them I learned it just so that I could speak better with them!

That also brought a smile, hey they knew it was BS, but at least it was quality BS!!

I was directed to Wikipedia, which has a listing for 'Minetero', one who does 'La Mine'. I guess when they asked Tweeners for 'La Menay', he thought they were saying 'Show me the Mo-nay', when they really wanted him to dine at the Y. Someone needs to teach these girls how to say 'Suck my pussy, Popi'.

KT

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]I've even been told that gringo's with low end girls have and will be refused entre into resturants at Parque Ileras,[/QUOTE]I'm wondering if there is a definition of high/low end girls? Any examples of both? Is it defined by looks/clothes/behavior? It looks like everybody has different tastes and opinions, sometimes strange tastes and standards. For example, I've seen pictures on the board where people say the girl is a "9", but in my opinion she would probably 2-3. Also from my experience in Medellin casas there are usually at most 1-2 good-looking girls out of 10.

So it's interesting, what is considered high/low for Parque Lleras, the girl's clothes, look or both? Or they could see that she's from some barrio in strata 1? What are they looking at when refusing entre?

My wingman “Alan23” and I are on the last day of our first visit to Medellin; we have been pleasantly surprised with this city. We find that Medellin is clean and the people are friendly, we haven’t encountered any problems, and [b] [u] we never felt unsafe. [/b][/u]

I’m not much of a club guy anymore, and I find that as I get older I like sex during the day best, so I only did chicas in the “Massage/Casas”, and in the price range of 45k pesos to 90k pesos (about 18-36 U.S. dollars). The quality of chicas was excellent; I had a session with a chica at “Adydos”; IMHO she could easily be a centerfold, the cost was $90k Pesos, ($36.00 U.S.) unbelievable!

“Centro de Relajcion Corporal Energy” also had a nice line up and they were asking 90k as well. WT69’s list says 75k, I don’t know if it was a gringo price or a price increase???

The chicas that I was with all offered very good service, not on the level of the chicas from Paraguay that can be found in Buenos Aires, but what Medellin chicas may lack in service they make up for in looks, IMHO. (Paraguayan chicas are in a league of their own) I also suspect the service level here would improve with repeat visits.

The chicas of Medellin are some of the prettiest I’ve seen anyplace, they are second to none in looks in my book. How did they get so many (natural) big breasted chicas in one city?

I have a lot of mongering experience much of which is in Buenos Aires and I’ve only spent a week here, but my initial thought is Medellin may well be a better mongering and living location than BsAs, all things considered.

I’m still weighing the pros and cons of Medellin vs. Buenos Aires; perhaps I’ll post those pros and cons in another post later.

Armed with the information from this form and a couple of English speaking taxi drivers we have had a very pleasant visit here.

Thank You, to all of you who have contributed to this forum.

I shall return to Medellin!

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I don't know if this report on girlfriend for a week is true or not, however I do know from experience that newbies get ripped, etc whenever they post on any high end venues. I went to Dominican Republic twice and stayed at high end places. I posted pictures and info and it was well received by a few but mostly I was ripped as a shill, the pictures I posted called into question etc.

If the person who questioned you about speaking with the girl since you don't speak spanish took the time to go to the site they would see that Scarlett speaks fluent English (one of the few that they make that claim on.

There are many super guys here and CRT but there are some guys who have nothing to share but like to rip others. Oh well, I guess that's just human nature. My two cents.

Markinno

Welcome to the new Medellin, full of desperate gringos searching and searching for wealth, respect, money, and hotties or just sex. You know were all pretty much the same, no matter how hard we try to seperate ourselfs from the pack, were all Fracked!

Another boat load of Coast aRican refugees arrives today, somebody should tell them this isn't the promise land. But I guess when your straving, and thirsty anything looks good.

What did you guys except, we are consumers we pay for sexual services their are bound to be bad websites, scammers, bad hotels, just like in any other service. Just be honest and report prices and try to keep it real.

Girlfriendforaweek, is some german dude who rented a penthouse from albert and posted room rental with him for 60 dollars a week, back then he called himself king of Medellin or something, anywaz to those of you out there whom want to try his service go head its a free world, but realize you can't buy a girlfriend, you can't buy honesty, you can buy a slave and pay for her schooling and hope it all works out in the end.

I agree why did Jackson let this guy post, it seems more and more your instrests always side with bussniess owners rather then consumers, beware of the consumer comrade.

Artisto Art,

Scarlett spoke perfect English, and quite a few of the girls from girlfriendforaweek do. I mentioned it in the report as well. If you are bent on not believing, you will find 10, 000 reasons to do so. And, if you can't find reasons, you make up your own. Its funny. I never knew that mentioning an escort site would generate so much heat. I had a good time, I thought I should let people know. Thats it. I agree its not a necessary experience, but it was a fun one. I agree that Mayorista, or the casas, or picking up non-pros in the malls (if you know spanish), or those 20-minutes banging that you get at Fasi Dos can be very fun as well. You don't have to agree with me. But, please do not just say that I am lying.

Paraco Joe,

Relax, Dude. How would you know that these girls are just 'dressed up' street hookers? Have you seeked their services? Do you know any one of them personally? Talk about bias and irresponsible posting. And the rate at girlfriendforaweek.com starts at $200 and upto $300. Its not $300-$400 like you said, and is not that expensive from $150 hookers that you mentioned. I don't understand, why this urge to make it look bad? Why make up numbers, why make up facts?

I htought it was a little expensive too, but now think it was worth it. If you say its expensive/pricey. Sure. I have nothing to say. Its not for everybody. But, don't call it a lie or a scam post, just because you want to believe so.

just to say i have seen greg's new girlfriend and i would quit a lot of things for her!!

[quote=aussie greg]i've even been told that gringo's with low end girls have and will be refused entre into resturants at parque ileras, it all comes back to my view that paisas will not let medellin become a mongers destination, even police have started to raid low end ***** houses in el centrol looking for guy's with **** girls, das have raided a pay for view web cam apartment run by "wolfman".

even my new girlfriend won't be seen out at night with a ***** so my entertainment has been rejused, thats good in a way as i'm of the rum and making a idiot of myself.

just my two cents worth guy's, you all have a great day.

saussie greg[/quote]

[QUOTE=Khun Talung]I was directed to Wikipedia, which has a listing for 'Minetero', one who does 'La Mine'. I guess when they asked Tweeners for 'La Menay', he thought they were saying 'Show me the Mo-nay', when they really wanted him to dine at the Y. Someone needs to teach these girls how to say 'Suck my pussy, Popi'.

KT[/QUOTE]Ummm, yeah I was just teasing.

I'm so used to women in my wallet searching for money!

They should let me know if they find any

Cheers

[QUOTE=Goga Fung]So it's interesting, what is considered high/low for Parque Lleras, the girl's clothes, look or both? Or they could see that she's from some barrio in strata 1? What are they looking at when refusing entre?[/QUOTE]High-end:

*If your girl has keys to a car she just parked at the parqueo in the lot next
door
*She's rocking Diesel/True Religion Jeans, a Christian Audigier skirt
*Louis, Fendi, Gucci, Channel bag
*5" Louboutin's, Blahnik's, Bebe, Choos
*Every other week she's in a photo on pegateya partying at B-Lounge, Karma, etc.

Low-end:

*Dirt under her nails
*Tattoos anywhere on her hands/fingers
*Zero designer gear, bought her outfit in centro on the street
*took the bus to come meet you
*if she is a with a >45yo non-spanish speaking gringo and walks around with zero swagger and no idea where she is
*no education, obviously noticeable by how inarticulate/ghetto she speaks
*at any point, dips out of sight to whip out a black plastic bag to inhale from
*asks people around you "meregalas quinientos"

That would be what the parque lleras types perceive as high/low end. There is a middle spectrum too, but you didn't ask about that.

Bottom line for me.- if the girl has visited the States, Europe, etc. Has a visa and was NOT there for prepago activities, she would be the type of girl I'd see on a regular basis. She has a car, lives in Estrato 4-6, graduated from University or working on her Master (my girls tend to be in school studying still as I try to keep it < 25yo).

[QUOTE=Medellinfan]One of the first questions we ask our girls when interviewing them is: “Have you worked as a hooker or prepago before?” If she says “Yes”, it’s the end of the interview, because she can’t work with us, because my experience is that the hookers/prepagos in Medellin are all cold and mechanical.[/QUOTE]I guess that you do not have much experience in Medellín then.

And how many prepagos would ever answer that question in the affirmative?

Sorry I really have to argue your point, especially where you say.

One of the first questions we ask our girls when interviewing them is: "Have you worked as a hooker or prepago before? " If she says "Yes", it’s the end of the interview, because she can’t work with us, because my experience is that the hookers/prepagos in Medellin are all cold and mechanical. We know that there are cheaper offerings out there, and if we can’t offer anything special, we won’t be able to demand our rates and we won’t be around for very long.

Again as you say, you can spot the lairs, MY FRIEND there is a long trail of broken hearts and empty wallets in Colombia. These women have perfected the art of the lie, YOU won't BE ABLE TO TELL! Give me a break. Second why would you assume that if a girl is looking to work as a hooker, that its her frist time? I would have to assume quite the opposit.

Now towards your rates, dude! Women like all vices drugs, booz should get cheaper as you buy more. For example, weed basic regs sells for 5 dollars a nickel bag or 10 dollars a dime bag which is 1 gram and 2 grams, a quater ounce sells for 25 dollars which is 7. 5 grams, with an 28 once selling for 70-80 dollars PLUS, depending on quality and location. A quarter pound 4 onces sells for 20 dollars, and a full pound sells for 600 PLUS dollars. (South Florida prices1998). Hopefully everybody notices how the price per gram continues to drop as you buy more, and pay more. The point here is to say price gets cheaper as you buy more.

Now towards your pricing and rates which is split into 3 sections but my point applies to all 3, one full day costs 300 dollars now 2500 exchange (750, 000 pesos) 7 full days costs 1, 750. 00 DOLLARS or 4, 375, 000 pesos. So now the daily cost is 250 dollars per day, instead of 300, a savings of 50 dollars per day, not much of a price reduction, and it gets less and less for your 2-3 day pricing. Again my point here is the price should see a good drop in per day rates, but instead shows little savings for the "bulk buyer".

Now on to. Why in the world would anybody put out 4. 3 million pesos per week for a chica. I TELL YOU YOU THIS, if anybody instrested in this concept of girl friend for a week, if your willing to shell out that kinda money just go on a tour of the day time casas and offer 4 million for a week to any of the chicas working there that you like, THEY WILL JUMP AT THE OFFER! Energy, Lutron, Newlife doesn't matter.

Heres some more math, lutron high end casa charges 170K per hour, girl takes 50% if she is lucky but we shall use 50% so thats 85K per trick how many tricks in a day lets average 2 tricks per day so 60 guys in a month and she will earn 5 million pesos for the MONTH plus buy her own transport and food while working. I would like to point out that 50% isn't very likely more like take home is 30-40% lutron isn't open on sundays, but 60 tricks a month is probly on the higher end. Its my personl opinion through conversation and observation that take home salry for lutron girls is 3-4 million pesos a month.

So what you are infact charging for a week is what a high end hooker makes in a month. Now you may say I am comparing apples and oranges. That your paying for being with a "non hooker" a smart intelligent, pretty girl. I will say that we should just leave it to money and sex, anything eles is bullshit, it would be like comparing diffrent types of medications, when they are all the same chemical compositions.

I don't know what your cut is with the girls, probly 50/50 but still a very good pay day for he girl. 2 million a week. She probly be very happy is that was 2 million a month.

I perfer dealig directly with the girl and paying the girl directly, paying middlemen and pimps is the worst part of the sex trade, these guys and mama suns increase prices by as much as 60-70 percent making the hobby of mongering not much fun and more like an addiction. Never underestimate the power of greed and how it can destory a good thing.

Well from the post and the prices listed by MedellinFan, this is the last stand before Medellin becomes like Costa Rica. Its a shame, maybe the forum has contributed to the demise, hell, I don't know. I really enjoy living here but if the low pfofile attitude doesn't return, well, its sad. Lets keep the info to PM, It may slow the tide of harm that is fast detroying our beautiful city. Its my 2 cents, this site is the best source of information, but low key is the secret to our Paradise stayin the heaven it is.

[QUOTE=Hog Dog]What is UP with the midget sized condoms they use around these parts? Do Colombians have even tinier tools than their Asian counterparts?? Where can a guy buy a normal sized condom (like Lifestyles?)

Am I the only guy who feels like ole Pedro is getting stuffed into a condom that's so damn tight it makes the jeans on your typical latina look baggy?[/QUOTE]Cheap motels only stock cheap Chinese condoms. For example, Life brand, which retail at 500 pesos for a 3-pack. Now you understand why they feel so small?

On the more expensive end are the Colombian condoms like Today and Sanimed, about 7000 pesos for the 3-pack.

Your best choice is Piel or Confiamor, both made in Germany. Half the price of the Colombian brands for a 3-pack, and comfortable in size.

To add to some of the comments Sailor stated, the idea that a girl gets rejected for having been a hooker or prepago in the past is ridiculous, mostly because it creates the circular argument, once she has participated in the gf/foraweek program, she HAS become a hooker, no matter how you slice it, and therefore is ineligible to continue.

As for the cost, I have not looked at the site, but 4. 375 million pesos is still US$2000, pretty good in anybody's money. The biggest difference I have found between the casas is the quality of the casa itself, and the ability of the girl to speak English, if she can't, she is immediately relegated to the cheaper casas. I have seen girls as good or better at Abydos/Energy/Blue Room as Loutron (only went to Loutron once), at at cost of 90k for the hour. More than once, I have been told by the girl that I was her first customer in three days or more, sure, she may be lying, but I have never been to any casa and seen anybody else there. Simply put, if even 3 guys per hour show up, that is 30 for the day, her best shot is maybe 3, or about 135k (assuming she gets 50%) or about $65 for the day. Sailor is right on, if you see a chica a couple of times, and she likes you, she'll hang off your arm for a week for no more than $500 max.

Medellin still has plenty to offer, but unlike before, one has to get past the middleman (I don't mind at all paying a share for the mamasan for the facilities)