Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2765697]Hi mongers.

I am in SP again, third time this year. Would love to meet fellow mongers as always. Please DM me if anyone is interested to meet up.

Also, any recommendation for massage place similar to Lotus Lounge Massagem? Love that place but tired of seeing same gals there, TIA.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Hello fellas. Recent lurker, first time poster. Making a first trip to SP in January.

I'm looking for massage options with a decent actual massage if possible and a reliable BBBJCIM.

Gab, did you receive any recommendations? If so, would you mind passing them on? Also, how was your experience with Lotus? It seems decently well reviewed here.

[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2768876]Wrapping up a month in Sao Paulo, and I wanted to share my experiences / thoughts. [/QUOTE]Great reporting! Nice read and detailed.

[QUOTE=Nebulousity;2769354]The Brazilian professional standard is already really good, in both a physical, energy, and focus sense. In the rare cases it also includes an inherent inner warmth that brings the potential for emotional attachment a lot higher. [/QUOTE]Yeah, I used to laugh at mongers who fell in love with hookers. That was before I knew Sao Paulo. The level of passion and warmth these ladies bring can easily mess with your head.

For those on the ground or who have completed recent trips, outside if Scandallo, which 3 venues are your favourite in SP right now?

1. Scandallo.

2. Bomboa.

3. Casarao.

4. Bahamas.

5. Cafe Photo.

[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2768876]Wrapping up a month in Sao Paulo, and I wanted to share my experiences / thoughts.

Scandallo.

This place is and continues to be the gold standard for Sao Paulo, and if I had to guess the world. You can find any type of woman here with little effort, and the service is fantastic. I've been trying to drink less this trip so I tried out the restaurant, and the food is actually very good. In my experience R800/ HR can get you anyone in the place, and while I've had girls ask for more, nobody as of yet refused 800 if I was clear I was willing to walk. My biggest piece of advice for people new to Scandallo is this: say no. Very attractive women are going to approach you, they're going to be flirty and charming, and you're going to want to fuck them. Anywhere else it wouldn't be a question, you'd say yes immediately, but you need to remember you're not anywhere else. So unless they're exactly what you want, say no, because 30 minutes later you will find your dream girl. In Scandallo you're surrounded by good options, but the price difference between good and great is almost nonexistent, so make sure you hold out for great. For an extended trip I tried to keep visits to 1/ week to help my wallet, but for a short trip I'd probably live here. When time is a major concern, you can show up and know you'll get consistent quality.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the very well written report and review! I'm curious about one thing, did you ever try offering below 800/ HR at Scandallo? Last time I was there, I felt 600 was a good rate that most would accept. I'm curious if that is now 800.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2770158]Thanks for the very well written report and review! I'm curious about one thing, did you ever try offering below 800/ HR at Scandallo? Last time I was there, I felt 600 was a good rate that most would accept. I'm curious if that is now 800.[/QUOTE]When the exchange rate was 3 to 1 an offer of 600 per hour was solid. Now that the rate is at 5 to 1 for some time now, reports mostly show that the girls are starting out asking for more. On one level the exchange rate should not matter, but we all know that it ultimately does. Not just for us, but for the tutes too. Try to drive some hard bargains, and maybe you will succeed. But with current rates it appears from reports that fewer of the Scandallo girls will be happy with a 600/ HR offer. Seems based on recent reporting one should be prepared to pay at least 800 minimum for one of the hotter Scandallo girls.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2770158]Thanks for the very well written report and review! I'm curious about one thing, did you ever try offering below 800/ HR at Scandallo? Last time I was there, I felt 600 was a good rate that most would accept. I'm curious if that is now 800.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2759280]Just counter with 50% what she first quotes you.[/QUOTE]The regulars will take 500 or less. The less attractive ones will open at 500 too. Like I said before, there is a new component added in the pricing so you need to counter with 50% off if you are not sure.

Bargaining will be beneficial if you intent to repeat because it sets the base price, otherwise not that much.

Hello everyone. New to Brazil & to this forum. I hope I'm posting in the right place.

I have a few questions about mongering in Sao Paulo:

1. My airbnb admin requires me to send the full name and a document of every visitor I want to bring in. I guess in this case I'm not going to have any outcalls in this place, or perhaps there are some ways to trick them without exposing the girl's privacy?

2. I need some general know-how. I'm not into restaurants, dating, GFE and that type of stuff, I just want to have an hour with a good looking escort every now and then. I guess in my case the best places to look for gatas are splove / private55/ clubmodel / photoacompanhantes and then I browse GPG for the opinions before scheduling an appointment, correct?

3. Are girls in scandallo way better than those I can find on the sites mentioned above or the looks are comparable? If the ones from scandallo are way hotter, is there any way to get one from there somehow privately so I don't have to pay for entrance / room etc?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2770194]The regulars will take 500 or less. The less attractive ones will open at 500 too. Like I said before, there is a new component added in the pricing so you need to counter with 50% off if you are not sure.

Bargaining will be beneficial if you intent to repeat because it sets the base price, otherwise not that much.[/QUOTE]In my 2022 experience super attractive Tier 1 girls will not accept 500 and I do not believe attractive Tier 2 girls will go for 500 either although I might be wrong on that one. I would love to see you negotiate a Tier 2 girl down to 500. But I do agree with you about countering anything a Scandallo girl originally asks with 50%. Most Tier 2 girls will accept the counteroffer if it equals 600 or 700 or they will come back with 50% off the original ask +200. Then it is up to you. I have never had a Tier 1 Scandallo girl accept less than 800 (in 2022). Of course, our definitions of what a Tier 1 girl and Tier 2 girl is may differ. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And then there are Tier 3 and Tier 4 girls that I won't shag for 200 or even for free, but somebody must be shagging them and having a good time, or they would not be there. KKK.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2770206]In my 2022 experience super attractive Tier 1 girls will not accept 500 and I do not believe attractive Tier 2 girls will go for 500 either although I might be wrong on that one. I would love to see you negotiate a Tier 2 girl down to 500. But I do agree with you about countering anything a Scandallo girl originally asks with 50%. Most Tier 2 girls will accept the counteroffer if it equals 600 or 700 or they will come back with 50% off the original ask +200. Then it is up to you. I have never had a Tier 1 Scandallo girl accept less than 800 (in 2022). Of course, our definitions of what a Tier 1 girl and Tier 2 girl is may differ. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And then there are Tier 3 and Tier 4 girls that I won't shag for 200 or even for free, but somebody must be shagging them and having a good time, or they would not be there. KKK.[/QUOTE]I did pay more and did it several times because the girls were attractive. It has been mentioned in my prior posts. I am actually not interested in what you can get for 500. I have also analyzed the situation in my earlier posts with actual examples based on other members' posts. Keep in mind, the poster's question and I mainly am talking about the regulars in Scandallo so I am pretty sure the extra component is added to their price so the 50% off is to remove that extra component. There was one member reported got a quote for 400 when I was quoted 1000 by the same girl not long ago. I did not bargain because that is one night I decided to do a survey with girls that were friendly with me which I reported in a post too.

[QUOTE=BangKoker;2770200]Hello everyone. New to Brazil & to this forum. I hope I'm posting in the right place.

I have a few questions about mongering in Sao Paulo:

1. My airbnb admin requires me to send the full name and a document of every visitor I want to bring in. I guess in this case I'm not going to have any outcalls in this place, or perhaps there are some ways to trick them without exposing the girl's privacy?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Are they asking you to submit the IDs in advance or for the guests to give their IDs at the lobby? Most luxury buildings in Brazil require people to give their IDS to be copied, photos taken and even fingerprints. This is very common and all the GPS know and do this. I've stayed in buildings that have tighter security than most banks with fingerprint access and double gated entry / driveway. I try to find an Airbnb that doesn't require advance submission, which is usually the host policy and not the building policy. If the guest policy is not clear, sometimes I would ask the host. I tell them I'm in SP for work and would it be ok for me to invite 1-2 coworkers over. I mention they will be quiet and will not use the common spaces. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2770194]The regulars will take 500 or less. The less attractive ones will open at 500 too. Like I said before, there is a new component added in the pricing so you need to counter with 50% off if you are not sure.

Bargaining will be beneficial if you intent to repeat because it sets the base price, otherwise not that much.[/QUOTE]Wait, I'm confused. Almost all of the reports here about Scandallo, even going back 2 years, have reported of girls accepting R600-R1000. Very rarely were there reports of girls excepting R500 or less. I'm not questioning the validity of your post, I'm just curious since one would have to visit Scandallo at least a couple times per week for several weeks to find out which ones are regulars. Even then I don't think ALL the regulars would take R500. Would you clarify what is this 'new component'?

I think one would need to always bargain regardless one's intent to repeat or not.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2769807]For those on the ground or who have completed recent trips, outside if Scandallo, which 3 venues are your favourite in SP right now?[/QUOTE]Just got back from SP yesterday after a 2 week stay. Scandallo a few times and the rest once each Bomboa, cafe foto, Casarao, Bahamas. Picked up one each time pernoite except the hottie from Bomboa had her come over a few times.

Otherwise it was some repeat girls from previous visits and a few new ones from Scandallo. All pernoite with evenings out in the city dining clubbing etc. No hourly stuff, no clinicas just "GFE" type experiences. Do not feel the need for rushing around and quantity. Simply all relaxed evenings out.

Overall same repeat fun as previous trips. Only difference is that Scandallo prices are going through the roof, one even quoted 5 K pernoite haha. Also some of them were asking to be paid upfront got a polite tchau tchau from me, plenty of fish.

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2770346]Wait, I'm confused. Almost all of the reports here about Scandallo, even going back 2 years, have reported of girls accepting R600-R1000. Very rarely were there reports of girls excepting R500 or less. I'm not questioning the validity of your post, I'm just curious since one would have to visit Scandallo at least a couple times per week for several weeks to find out which ones are regulars. Even then I don't think ALL the regulars would take R500. Would you clarify what is this 'new component'?

I think one would need to always bargain regardless one's intent to repeat or not.[/QUOTE]You can read this post. My suggestion is for newbies, do it like I said and learn from there if you don't know and don't want to be taken advantage of. It's a starting point and you may reach a final price in between. I have other source about the same girl so I know it is likely true

[QUOTE=Nounce;2744997].... I think the current pricing just added a layer of dishonesty. ....[/QUOTE]I am going to repeat what I have posted before. You can get attractive girls online for around 500-600. You add the girl's cost of 250 to 300 to work at Scandallo. The girl needs to charge 800-900 to make the same amount of money so I think that is a reasonable price for an attractive girl that is not a Scandallo regular. Just keep in mind that it is an estimate what a reasonable price is, it is not the price you will get. The numbers may have changed but the math is the same.

Coincidently, I have posted a picture of a Scandallo girl here before. She is one of the most attractive girls I met at Scandallo. She charged 800 at Scandallo and 600 online. There was an online discussion by locals about her. She accepted only a few online sessions a week because she said she could easily get paid more at Scandallo. She schooled me about inflation too.

I also don't think all girls pay to work there. I met a girl who was sent there by her agency. My guess is she does not have to pay because she was asked to be present there. I had her in my place several times and she would mention to me when she would be at Scandallo because the owner asked their presence. There is no reason for her to pay to work at Scandallo for one day a week on a slow day.

I think this price may stick eventually. I went to a Medellin club about a month ago. All quotes are in USD. The least amount is 200USD/hr and the most is 300USD/hr. The girls are not even attractive to me. This place used to be 200 mil COP. My guess is some tourists misunderstood 200 as 200 USD and paid that. Then it became a scam to trap tourists, and now it becomes a standard opening price. 200 USD in about 1 million COP in today's exchange rate.