Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2101265]I went to Cherry massage Tues night. I was hoping to meet Yok, but was told she is no longer in Bangkok. My back up was Kiwi. Kiwi's pic on the website are dated, she's a little bigger now. Cut to the chase: I was a little leery about my selection, but once we got going, she did not disappoint. Despite her larger size, Kiwi is a performer. (Me too, LOL.) She has great BJ skills. She got into the session, which had lots moaning from her and DFK. Lots of positions and A+ too. Because of her bigger size, she can take a pounding. Kiwi probably isn't for most here, But I had a great time with her.[/QUOTE]I've looked up lady Kiwi's picture at the Cherry Massage website, and one thing I like about her is her big natural tits. I think she has bigger tits than any other lady there. And she is natural too. Which makes her good to suck, while you are at it with her.

[URL]http://cherrymassagebkk.com/massage-ladies/[/URL]

And now that lady Kiwi has gained some weight, I can only imagine how big and how full she is in the boob department.

Also, having the lady get into the session with you makes all the difference. Because when the lady obviously enjoys what you are doing with her, then this gives you confidence and enables you to perform well with her.

This is what the lady's personality is all about. It's when one way or another the lady gives you confidence with her, rather than robs you of it. And of course, confidence is a two-way street. You need to play your part and give the lady some confidence too.

[QUOTE=PhilAndererer;2101316]This is my first visit to Thailand. I am Staying in Bangkok for 4 days near Soi Cowboy as well as in Pattaya and Phuket for a few more days. Heard that Ratchadapisek road in Bangkok is a hub for many soapy massage parlors. Is it worth visiting this place for the sole purpose of getting a better soapy massage there instead of places around Soi Cowboy? Or should I try these kind of massages in Pattaya for better experience?[/QUOTE]I've spent some time in Pattaya and visited some massage places there a few years ago.

I actually liked it better than Bangkok. And it wasn't so much about the massage places, as it was about the pollution, the traffic, and the long travel distances in Bangkok. Everything was better in Pattaya in this regard.

It's hard to be in the mood to do some hot lady good, when you are surrounded by heavy traffic and breathing in all the pollution.

Bangkok places are also more likely to rip you off in terms of money, than places in Pattaya. You need to be more careful in this regard in Bangkok than in Pattaya.

But I have to admit that Bangkok has more ladies and more massage places to choose from, than Pattaya. In this regard, Bangkok is better.

One of the massage ladies, I liked in Pattaya, actually came from Bangkok. That's what she told me. Which means that there is some travel between Bangkok and Pattaya. They aren't isolated from each other in terms of their ladies.

[QUOTE=PhilAndererer;2101316]This is my first visit to Thailand. I am Staying in Bangkok for 4 days near Soi Cowboy as well as in Pattaya and Phuket for a few more days. Heard that Ratchadapisek road in Bangkok is a hub for many soapy massage parlors. Is it worth visiting this place for the sole purpose of getting a better soapy massage there instead of places around Soi Cowboy? Or should I try these kind of massages in Pattaya for better experience?[/QUOTE]After reading your suggestions, I find that it is not wise to spend the money in soapies as they are relatively expensive with no good experience. But in my place it is not possible to find such establishments, so it is a must-to-do thing for me.

1. Are soapies and nuru massages different from one another (in theory it might be different, but in practical terms)? Do I need to take both?

2. Can you suggest one good soapy and nuru massage establishment in Bangkok and Pattaya? I know that the girls and GFEs are subjective things, but suggest better establishments in terms of no ripoffs and customer friendly ones.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=PhilAndererer;2101784]After reading your suggestions, I find that it is not wise to spend the money in soapies as they are relatively expensive with no good experience. But in my place it is not possible to find such establishments, so it is a must-to-do thing for me.

1. Are soapies and nuru massages different from one another (in theory it might be different, but in practical terms)? Do I need to take both?

2. Can you suggest one good soapy and nuru massage establishment in Bangkok and Pattaya? I know that the girls and GFEs are subjective things, but suggest better establishments in terms of no ripoffs and customer friendly ones.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]It is unwise assumption that Soapies will not work for you. Some guys love it, and I used to use for many years up to dropping off 5 years ago (very few recent great experiences. My I am not normal). There are budget priced soapies, such as Ocean, Merci, Evita, Meree, Catherine, Nancy etc. Annies is designated as a Soapy, but I put it in a special category, since it fails to match many characteristics of a Soapy, particularly for not having plenty of time to watch the girls before choosing, and also due to very small low standard rooms with very cramped space for body slide.

For Nuru I suggest check if Chrome Bar has any girls that appeal (may not). Some guys don't like the setup but I found it okay I have had 2 or 3 good girls in there (of the slim variety) but not recently.

[QUOTE=PhilAndererer;2101784]After reading your suggestions, I find that it is not wise to spend the money in soapies as they are relatively expensive with no good experience. But in my place it is not possible to find such establishments, so it is a must-to-do thing for me....[/QUOTE]I'd say that your experience with the lady often depends on you being ready. It's not just about the lady and the establishment.

This was especially true for me, when I first started coming to Thailand. I wasn't used at all to lay my eyes on a sexy girl and 10 minutes later have her undress with me in the private room, expecting me to take her with my cock. This worked well for me as a fantasy. But in reality, this was too fast for me. I found this experience overwhelming and a little hard to enjoy.

I often didn't enjoy my first experience with the lady I liked. But then I would go back to my hotel room, masturbate about this lady and make myself ready to do her again the next day. And my second time with her was usually a lot more pleasant than the first. It's like on the first day, I wasn't ready for her, but on the second day I was.

There is such a thing as being too fast, even for a guy, especially when you aren't used to it. And a good way to get around this problem is to give yourself some time to think about the lady, fantasize and masturbate about her, and only then go to do her.

When you go to a massage place, then you can just look at the ladies there and come back later. There is no requirement that you take out some lady right away. You can just make a mental note about 2 or 3 ladies you like, fantasize about them for a while, and then come back. And I say 2 or 3 ladies, because not all of them might be there, when you come back. You need to make yourself ready to do any one of them.

I'd say that your experience can vary so much from one lady to another, even within the same establishment, that you should go for ladies, rather than for the establishment. And ladies come and go. There is no guarantee that a lady I've seen 6 months ago will still be there. And she might not even be the lady you like. Different guys like different ladies.

I think the only reliable way to find a lady you like is to chose your ladies on your own and see how it goes. And you shouldn't be especially disappointed if sometimes your experience doesn't work out well. People don't always click together. This is a normal part of meeting multiple ladies, whom you don't know well.

Some people look at this as doing business only. But I think this view is mistaken, especially in Thailand. It's doing business alright. But it's more than that. It's also meeting real women, who are individuals and people.

It's normal to develop some feelings of intimacy and liking. That's what the GFE experience is all about. It's not just acting. Quite often it's real, real enough for some guys to marry the Thai lady they like. This doesn't happen every day. But it does happen once in a while.

It's good to be back! I arrived on Saturday, horrendous queues at immigration but flew business class so got fast track through, thank glod.

I went to Mitu's latest shop around 6 pm Saturday. If you don't count the LB shop this must be their 3rd premises on 33 but easy to find. There were 6 ladies to choose from and I picked Becky. I was surprised that the photos on the website are the same on the tablet in the shop you are given to choose from. No face picture on the website, same on shop menu.

Anyway, I was not disappointed by Becky. About 4'10", cute face though a couple of squint teeth, nice body. Really nice be cup breasts, just the right handful and naturally firm. She has worked their for two weeks. There was no massage, just straight into it for two pops. She's a good lady, more GFE than PSE. I had a good time with her.

Mitu is probably the most expensive place you will get around upper Suk but they always have delivered good quality for me. No complaints.

I wasn't sure of what I was in the mood for today; crazy PSE at Eden or Snowhite, reliable selection at Angels or take my chances at "regular" oily and see what happens. I flipped all these options walking down Soi 20 and decided on the middle ground of all that and Akane Soi 33.

Usual script on entering. Directed to couches on the left, welcome soft drink and presented with the menu. I went with the Fashion 3 P - 90 mins with 2nd lady for last 30 minutes "lip service". Last time I had this course at Akane the 2nd lady was a bit of a boiler in street clothes but she is there to blow you with the 1st lady naked beside you. Other people have said this is not the norm though.

I was given a line up of 5 ladies and chose the youngest of them, Kou. She was a bit pum pui but looked like a great pair of tits for a body slide and not unattractive. Usual Akane script in the room; shower, stool with the channel, cleaned scrupulously everywhere, gel massage, etc. The massage was pretty lame and we didn't get the flip till the 2nd lady arrived. Kou had got naked by this point and Lady 2 was in her bra and pants. Standard script resumed; ass in air, rimming, now the body slide with those great tits, reach round HJ. On to my back; more body slide, CBJ from lady 2, prostate massage, play with Kou's tits and pussy all this time, VERY happy ending.

I might well go back to repeat with Kou but in one of the VIP rooms. I would like to get 1-on-1 with her and see how it goes. As per the standard of ladies in Akane, not the prettiest you will find working around Soi 33, but there is potential there.

[QUOTE=Dan7373;2102489]I'd say that your experience with the lady often depends on you being ready. It's not just about the lady and the establishment.

This was especially true for me, when I first started coming to Thailand. I wasn't used at all to lay my eyes on a sexy girl and 10 minutes later have her undress with me in the private room, expecting me to take her with my cock. This worked well for me as a fantasy. But in reality, this was too fast for me. I found this experience overwhelming and a little hard to enjoy.

I often didn't enjoy my first experience with the lady I liked. But then I would go back to my hotel room, masturbate about this lady and make myself ready to do her again the next day. And my second time with her was usually a lot more pleasant than the first. It's like on the first day, I wasn't ready for her, but on the second day I was.
[/QUOTE]For you Dan maybe, but you are unique. I don't think you can assume others will be similar at all. I seriously doubt that the vast majority of us, are not "ready" to fuck a beautiful naked girl if she is hot, willing and assisting. In soapies it can be all too frustrating that the lady takes sooo looong in the bath with the cleaning procedure to waste a large part of the session time.

I might not be ready in terms of a great hard on, if there is no kissing, no BJ, and the girl is stiff legged and scared, or if her body is a disaster area, or there is not touching allowed. However if the girl is hot sexy and GFE from the get go, most of us are very ready very quickly. In fact fucking the girl in the bath or on a body slide mat has been known to happen, when we just can't wait.

Most of us had prior P4P experience before Thailand, so are not shy or scared of the lady in the slightest. Can't get to her pussy fast enough. Maybe your "not ready" is really the fear that you will pop too fast. I am opposite and never have that problem at all.

Your comment "Very hard to do a lady" because of pollution in the city. That was also a really weird comment. I may struggle to pop if get too hot or stuffy when air con doesn't work properly, however never notice pollution of Bangkok at time of a fuck. It is just not relevant. We don't have vehicle exhausts going direct into the MP.

The one thing that you wrote, that made some sense, is that not all fantasies are suitable for reality. It is not necessary to live them all. e.g. I like nude girls so much, that I would prefer to ask all the girls in the MP line up to get undressed naked before I choose the girl, however it is just not going to happen. LOL I would love to have some MPs where, the full line up are naked all the time, however have to make do with skimpy outfits. Fucking a girl in the bar in public is one thing I tried at Star of Light. It was not so great in reality, mainly because the girl expected me to finish relatively quick, like giving me only 10 minutes or less. That is not very satisfactory to a guy who likes 1 hour sex minimum. LOL Two or three girls sex parties was something that worked out very well with the right girls, so did that many times. So fantasies can be workable if all parties can have their requirements met.

I went to Snowhite about 6:30 pm, four ladies to choose from. I picked the prettiest who turned out to be Audi. I was happy with that as she has good reports on hers IIRC. She has a very pretty face and a nice cleavage but when in the room and she undressed, boy, she has been ravaged by childbirth. 10 out of 10 to the bra designers; they are mega defalted when unsuported and her belly is, well, ravaged.

In the shower, as previously reported, she is right down to business with BBBJ deep throat. Out of the shower, more of the same on the bed then condom and no holes barred. She is a trooper right enough and excellent BJ skills but front and backdoor are loose; "like throwing a sausage in a train tunnel".

This is a pretty negative report but she does work hard at it so I feel a bit guilty with the negativity. I wanted to try Snowhite, I've done it now; scratch that one off the bucket list. If Audi is one of the stars then I will pass on a repeat.

[QUOTE=LoveHole69;2100166]Igzca it was maybe you but I read a post or posts years ago about run getting rather loose and staining people and the sheets brown.

Unfortunately I never got to try my size on her but seems she would handle anything well despite being small. The best I had for that was Yok very accommodating and strong endurance she could take on a whole team but for mongers who are not large sized I would imagine it might be like dipping in a pool.

Dextro sol did you say run jumped on you bareback? Did you catch anything as she was always giving snow white customers the clap.

Now that she is retired in Phuket with an American I wonder if she exclusively stains his sheets.[/QUOTE]Yes, she literally raped me in the room. As I remember she tored off my clothes and pushed me on my back on the bed and jumped right up on me. I had no time to react and there we were, fucking like rabbits bareback. Fortunately I didn't catch anything, but I have read later she had to leave work for curing different illnesses from time to time.

[QUOTE=SonicBam;2102869]I went to Snowhite about 6:30 pm, four ladies to choose from. I picked the prettiest who turned out to be Audi. I was happy with that as she has good reports on hers IIRC. She has a very pretty face and a nice cleavage but when in the room and she undressed, boy, she has been ravaged by childbirth. 10 out of 10 to the bra designers; they are mega defalted when unsuported and her belly is, well, ravaged.

In the shower, as previously reported, she is right down to business with BBBJ deep throat. Out of the shower, more of the same on the bed then condom and no holes barred. She is a trooper right enough and excellent BJ skills but front and backdoor are loose; "like throwing a sausage in a train tunnel".

This is a pretty negative report but she does work hard at it so I feel a bit guilty with the negativity. I wanted to try Snowhite, I've done it now; scratch that one off the bucket list. If Audi is one of the stars then I will pass on a repeat.[/QUOTE]I understand these gals need to make a living, but sesh, should we really be subjected to these type of visuals? I really think the shops should screen better and gals with really damaged bodies should be steered into another line of work. Punters need to speak up. I have actually gotten to the room and called off sessions because of baby damage. They know I am not a fan at all the PSE shops and warn me ahead of time to make sure I don't select a gal who is not going to pass muster. We stop taking those gals, eventually will will be offered better.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2103034]. We stop taking those gals, eventually will will be offered better.[/QUOTE]I really agree with your views on this and then I'm stopped in my tracks by your conclusion. Where are these better providers coming from? What would attract them to those shops and where are they now? My guess is that only a significant price increase would attract truly attractive talent. Just look at the other venues and what the beauties get. I know that you have said before that you would pay more to get more and I am still in agreement. I would frequent The Lord if I knew I could get everything I wanted with every provider. But I cannot so I don't. There a many tiers in this biz and unfortunately I do not think the oilies model is going to change.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2103034]I understand these gals need to make a living, but sesh, should we really be subjected to these type of visuals? I really think the shops should screen better and gals with really damaged bodies should be steered into another line of work. Punters need to speak up. I have actually gotten to the room and called off sessions because of baby damage. They know I am not a fan at all the PSE shops and warn me ahead of time to make sure I don't select a gal who is not going to pass muster. We stop taking those gals, eventually will will be offered better.[/QUOTE]"sesh" LOL Maybe the spelling auto corrector mashed up "Sheesh"!

I think it would be great to have the MP shops dress the girls in extremely skimpy see through underwear. Annies has that to some extent (perhaps not see through) from memory although I did not visit recently. If the girls needed to go outside they could put on an easy on / off nurses short length tunic or smock or something similar.

In the lineup, all girls should be standing and slowly rotate the body so we see the back view as well. Not like Annies where girls stand up and sit down again too quick. In some bars we get these advantages automatically. Shark has gogo girls in see through underwear. It does not hide much but is not quite nude. I can't stand that "Coyote" girls have double layer bras, possibly with padding too. We don't want to be conned.

Girls with devastated bodies should probably be in the rub and tug shops. They obviously cannot be "models" which is virtually what a lot of us are looking for. Not just a girl with several holes. I do take mothers very often, however I expect the baby damage to be rather minor. My GF is a mother but not noticeably damaged at all. Pussy still tight (maybe from insufficient use LOL). Even her tits were never saggy. I guess she was very lucky.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2102700]In soapies it can be all too frustrating that the lady takes sooo looong in the bath with the cleaning procedure to waste a large part of the session time.[/QUOTE]Just reach for the soap start washing yourself if they are wasting time in the tub and it isn't as enjoyable as you would like. YOU are paying. It takes all about 1-2 minutes to wash yourself. They aren't going to kill you, you're the customer. But sadly, you have to take control despite the fact that you are paying. That's just the situation it is.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2103049]I really agree with your views on this and then I'm stopped in my tracks by your conclusion. Where are these better providers coming from? What would attract them to those shops and where are they now? My guess is that only a significant price increase would attract truly attractive talent. Just look at the other venues and what the beauties get. I know that you have said before that you would pay more to get more and I am still in agreement. I would frequent The Lord if I knew I could get everything I wanted with every provider. But I cannot so I don't. There a many tiers in this biz and unfortunately I do not think the oilies model is going to change.[/QUOTE]Perhaps the oilies will just die out. Right now it seems only a few gals at each shop are busy. Why? Because each shop only has a few lookers that perform. Maybe there just are no really good looking gals that are willing to put on PSE performance at any price. From the reports I read about The Lord, most guys seems satisfied to pay that money for a looker that does not really perform or gives what I would consider a "sort of GFE. " Guess it is about being able to tell your friends that you stuck it in a looker. I think for the locals lads that is exactly what it is about. And yes, if the gals at The Lord provided PSE and multiple shots, I'd for sure partake. Unfortunately, there is not a tier with super hot gals that provide a PSE. It just doesn't exist here. Yes, there is a gal here and there, but they are rare. I'm getting to the point where I rarely partake. It's just to depressing to walk into the oilies and would be too frustrating to walk into The Lord. The oilies were far better talent wise 7 years ago. Far better. I'd go into Mango or Snow, or early Cherry and have trouble choosing. Also used to leave most sessions with my knees shaking thinking, "Wow that was amazing." Now I leave most of the time thinking, "Meh, I could have jerked off and saved 2k."

For sure we are in a very different era. Friend has a buddy who had a regular that used to work at one of the high dollar parlors then went on to be kind of a FL working with a group of other gals. Heard what she gets for private events and it is just stunning. Supposedly a very nice looking gal with a great body, but from the description nowhere near sophisticated enough to be considered a high class escort. Not so long ago big money escorts in the West had to possess a certain level of sophistication. They needed to be able to converse with the customer, had to be comfortable at a nice dinner, and of course had to be skilled in the art of seduction (how many Thai gals P4 P or civilians have you ever experienced being truly seductive?) and provide GFE or PSE. But now it seems, that you just need a pretty face, decent body, and be willing. Incredibly wealthy dudes will shower money on you. Where have the expectations from the customer gone?