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[QUOTE=BangKoker;2770200]...I have a few questions about mongering in Sao Paulo:....[/QUOTE]Good idea to check GPG but you may not find many reviews of high price ones there. I met a bad one that we didn't even have sex, then I posted a review for her on GPG and I found out there was a bad review already so I should have checked.

Another source is Twitter. You need to find out who to follow and you will see working girls posting updates.

Not way better for me and other people I met there because we went there the first time with expectation that was too high, but you are likely to find a higher percentage of what you are looking for. It's better to go there with lower expectation and to be surprised on the upside. The online pictures are photoshopped so you can't compare that to real girls you see.

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2770346]Wait, I'm confused. Almost all of the reports here about Scandallo, even going back 2 years, have reported of girls accepting R600-R1000. Very rarely were there reports of girls excepting R500 or less. I'm not questioning the validity of your post, I'm just curious since one would have to visit Scandallo at least a couple times per week for several weeks to find out which ones are regulars. Even then I don't think ALL the regulars would take R500. Would you clarify what is this 'new component'?

I think one would need to always bargain regardless one's intent to repeat or not.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2770288]I did pay more and did it several times because the girls were attractive. It has been mentioned in my prior posts. I am actually not interested in what you can get for 500. I have also analyzed the situation in my earlier posts with actual examples based on other members' posts. Keep in mind, the poster's question and I mainly am talking about the regulars in Scandallo so I am pretty sure the extra component is added to their price so the 50% off is to remove that extra component. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2770503] My suggestion is for newbies, do it like I said and learn from there if you don't know and don't want to be taken advantage of. It's a starting point and you may reach a final price in between. I have other source about the same girl so I know it is likely true

You can get attractive girls online for around 500-600. You add the girl's cost of 250 to 300 to work at Scandallo. The girl needs to charge 800-900 to make the same amount of money so I think that is a reasonable price for an attractive girl that is not a Scandallo regular. Just keep in mind that it is an estimate what a reasonable price is, it is not the price you will get. The numbers may have changed but the math is the same.

Coincidently, I have posted a picture of a Scandallo girl here before. She is one of the most attractive girls I met at Scandallo. She charged 800 at Scandallo and 600 online. There was an online discussion by locals about her. She accepted only a few online sessions a week because she said she could easily get paid more at Scandallo. She schooled me about inflation too.

I also don't think all girls pay to work there. I met a girl who was sent there by her agency. My guess is she does not have to pay because she was asked to be present there. I had her in my place several times and she would mention to me when she would be at Scandallo because the owner asked their presence. There is no reason for her to pay to work at Scandallo for one day a week on a slow day.

[/QUOTE]I am going to try to make this as simple as possible:

Definitions: "Regular" Scandallo girls means girls that show up at Scandallo per schedule on prespecified nights, usually 4 nights a week. There are regular afternoon girls and regular evening girls. My Valerie is a "regular evening girl". She is expected to work 4 nights a week, 10 pm until closing time, and she must show up before 10 pm in order to avoid paying an entry fee of 200 br. Valerie is IMHO a "Tier Two" Scandallo girl meaning she is a very cute and sexy girl next door type who does not look like a hooker. She is never asked to register when I walk her through a 5-star hotel lobby.

By my definition "Tier one" Scandallo girls are model quality girls with natural bodies although if a girl has a really great naturally looking set of silly cones, I will still consider her Tier One as long as she is drop dead gorgeous. In any case "Tier One" Scandallo girls are smokin' hot and they know it. So, many Tier Ones are very popular and can ask very high prices. Some of these girls show up on a scheduled basis to avoid the entry fee, but other "Tier Ones" are true independent contractors and only show up when they feel like it and they don't mind paying the entry fee because their rate is very high.

Now It really doesn't matter if a customer knows if a girl is a "regular" or not because it is all in the price. If a girl asks for 1000 or less, she is Tier 2 or considers herself Tier 2 based on her popularity. A girl's popularity can be based on her looks, but it can also be based on the quality of her service. Local repeat customers talk to one another about their girls and a girl's reputation gets around. This is one of the main reasons service is so good at Scandallo and other boates. The locals keep the girls honest.

If a girl initially asks for 2000 or 1500, she is Tier 1 or considers herself Tier one or she has sized up the customer and thinks it is worth a try to ask an enormous amount. I should add that girls talk too and repeat customers will earn certain reputations after a while. For example, I have been told by a few girls that I have good reputation and I am known as a moderate spender.

In any case my advice as well as Nounce's is to always counter a girl's initial ask with half and see what happens. If a girl asks 900, I will counter with 500 and settle somewhere around 700. Some girls will not come down from 800. If that is the case, then it is up to me to say yes or no depending on how I feel about the girl based on her looks and how she is doing in the interview. There is no right or wrong response. Do what feels right.

But it usually comes as no surprise to me when a girl initially asks for more like as much as 2000,1500, or 1200 because I have already sized her up as Tier One looker before I begin talking to her. With a 2000 initial ask I will counter with 900 and the girl will almost always accept 1000 to 1200. A 1500 initial ask girl will usually settle for 900 to 1000. And a 1200 initial ask girl will usually settle for 800 or 900. This is my experience anyway. YMMV depending on your reputation if you have one, your Portuguese, your looks, and of course your personality. I always keep it light and friendly. I never hard negotiate because I think that is detrimental to the cause. HA HA. There are many girls to choose from, the girls know this at least as well as we do, so hard negotiation is never necessary. Just part company in a friendly way if you can't agree on price.

In rare cases when a Tier Two or even a Tier 3 girl (in my estimation) is trying to test me (I am a gringo) by initially asking a Tier One price, I will laugh it off and offer 500 and won't go higher than 600 because trying to take advantage is a negative indicator of things to come in my opinion. The girls know their true ranking.

So, I hope this helps freshmen Scandalloites. It is not hard to understand, and it should be fun. 1. Know the type of girl you are attracted to, and where she realistically stands in the hierarchy. 2. Offer her half of her initial ask. She may accept your counter or ask a little more. Half the initial ask + 200 is my usual max. But there is no set price only reasonable price ranges. Never pay more than you are comfortable with. There are many girls to choose from, but on the other hand, don't come to Scandallo, the primero SP establishment, thinking you can get by on the cheap. There are several viable alternative Boates to choose from. Bomboa generally does not have many Tier One girls, so negotiations are simple. Bomboa girls may initially ask as much as 1000, most ask less, but almost all will agree to 600 to 700. I have never paid more than 800 in Bomboa and that girl was very hot. Casarao girls ask between 350 and 500. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so go where you like, shag who you like. I like to mix it up a bit. Great service to very good service is the norm from ALL boate girls. After all this is Sao Paulo, the city of women.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2770503]You can get attractive girls online for around 500-600. You add the girl's cost of 250 to 300 to work at Scandallo. The girl needs to charge 800-900 to make the same amount of money so I think that is a reasonable price for an attractive girl that is not a Scandallo regular. [/QUOTE]This makes a lot of sense. How does your math work for pernoites?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2770564]I am going to try to make this as simple as possible[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2770503]You can read this post. My suggestion is for newbies, do it like I said and learn from there if you don't know and don't want to be taken advantage of. It's a starting point and you may reach a final price in between.[/QUOTE]

Axel & Nounce, this is good guidance on strategies for the uninitiated in dealing with Scandalo and boate girls in general.

Great explanations from both Nounce and AH!!

I will add something to the newbie expectation of Scandello. Prepare for an expensive night out. Do not go there if you think you will be the "one" to land a stunner for cheap. The girls are all used to gringos coming in and know the game better than you. Go into Scandello as an experience that you will never get anywhere else. Sit back, have a drink and enjoy the sights. I cannot stress this enough — take your time selecting. Talk to as many girls as you can. This will help your learning curve tremendously.

I prefer spinners with good looks but personality does it for me. I usually take the girl for the weekend so personality is a big issue. She can be hot as fuck but dumb as a doorknob and I will toss her. She is cute yet not drop dead gorgeous but can carry a conversation and she is a keeper. It takes me time to sift thru the inventory so to speak. I usually end up with good ones but I also spend time talking to them before working out a weekend price. Does it cost more? Sure. But I have sex available on demand all weekend and no pressure to keep looking for girls and paying entry fees and so forth. To each his own.

Just remember to have a good time, share your experiences and enjoy in your own way.

Part 1: Miss Beautiful or the one that got away, but A. H. Has a happy ending anyway.

So, one night I spotted a real beauty in Scandallo. Man, she was drop dead gorgeous! She gave me a smile, so I went over and said Hi. After a little friendly conversation, I asked if she wanted a drink. She said, "yes, I would like a coconut water. " After our drinks came, we found a table and so began the audition. She was very friendly and cordial, but not tongue in my mouth friendly. KKK. Anyway, midway through our get to know you, her tall slender, plain looking girlfriend approached our table and whispered something to Miss Beautiful. I could not hear exactly what she was saying, but the gist of it was: "I have 3 VIP Brazilian guys over in the reserved section and they want to meet you. Get rid of the Gringo and join us as soon as you can". Now to Miss Beautiful's credit she did not ditch me after her plain looking GF left and we continued with our pleasant get to know you as if nothing had happened. But, as we were finishing our drinks the relevant $$ subject came up. I told her I really liked, and she responded with, "do you want to take me out of the club or stay here". I asked her what her prices were, and she said 5000 br outside the club & 2500 upstairs. I pretended to be shocked & devasted by her response as I wiped fake tears from my eyes. She giggled a little. Then I said, "come on baby, can't you give me a friendly price. I think we could have a really good time together" She smiled politely again and said she could not. So, we were at an impasse and we both knew it. There was no way I was going to pay $500 US for an hour with her and apparently her price was fixed. So, a few minutes later she politely excused herself and took off. We both left things on a friendly basis, however. After a while I got up and waked around the bar towards the thruway that takes you out to the courtyard bar. I passed the VIP table where I saw Miss beautiful, her plain GF, and 3 Brazilian guys. There were 4 or 5 bottles of liquor on the table, a bucket full of ice, and plenty of cans of mixer.

I walked around the entertainment bar for a little while and I soon found a sexy indigenous girl to my liking. She smiled at me, so I approached her. We exchanged a few opening pleasantries and I offered her a drink. This one asked for a Gin Tropical so I ordered 2 and we found another table and sat down next to one another. Miss Indigenous was a very goodlooking Tier 2 girl with a great, slender, natural body. Just my kind of girl. HA HA. We started making out and doing other things, so by the time we had drunk half our Gin drink I knew I wanted to take her upstairs. It took less than a minute to talk price. She originally wanted 900, I countered with 600, and she countered my counter with 700 and it was all settled. We went upstairs to the hotel reception area arm in arm after making some more while we waited for the elevator.

Then when we arrived at the hotel registration area, guess who was there ahead of us? KKK. Miss Beautiful and one of her Brazilian VIP'er. I was all set to play it cool, but Miss Beautiful smiled at me, chuckled, and sad Hi. Which I found very surprising because 99% of the time a girl never acknowledges another customer or possible customer when she is with someone else. It is just not done. But I guess that when a girl is as attractive as Miss Beautiful is, she can do anything she wants (within reason of course). HA HA. So, I responded with casual "Hi, it's a small world isn't it. ".

Ok, long story short, Miss Indigenous and I had a great session together. She was a great kisser. She blew me while kneeling in the shower and later on the bed. I went down on her, and she seemed very surprised and then she became very turned on. I think she had an orgasm, but who knows. Then as I moved up in between her legs and began to kiss her, I was about to enter her vagina when she whispered the dreaded words, "condom please" and I pulled back a little. I said something like, "oh baby, we don't need a condom" and she repeated "condom please" so I thought fast and said, "I will give you a tip if we no condom" and she responded "900 (her original asking price) no condom". I said how about 800 and she gave me a look that said are you really going to negotiate NOW? KKK. And I caved. The sex was great as we engaged in multiple positions. I shot my load deep inside her pussy. It was another memorable Scandallo session wo we exchanged WhatsApp numbers. Then over the remaining weeks of my stay in SP, I repeated with her two more times.

Now to the kicker to my story: I still wanted to hook up with Miss Beautiful especially after her brief acknowledgement of my presence at the hotel's front desk. I figured that without her 3 Brazilian VIP'ers waiting in the wings she would ask a more reasonable price from me. So, I looked for her on several subsequent visits to Scandallo. Unfortunately, I never saw her again. Too bad. HA HA. And so, Miss Beautiful is my 2022 girl that got away. I always remember the ones that got away. KKK.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2770888]Great explanations from both Nounce and AH!!

I will add something to the newbie expectation of Scandello. Prepare for an expensive night out. Do not go there if you think you will be the "one" to land a stunner for cheap. The girls are all used to gringos coming in and know the game better than you. Go into Scandello as an experience that you will never get anywhere else. Sit back, have a drink and enjoy the sights. I cannot stress this enough take your time selecting. Talk to as many girls as you can. This will help your learning curve tremendously.

I prefer spinners with good looks but personality does it for me. I usually take the girl for the weekend so personality is a big issue. She can be hot as fuck but dumb as a doorknob and I will toss her. She is cute yet not drop dead gorgeous but can carry a conversation and she is a keeper. It takes me time to sift thru the inventory so to speak. I usually end up with good ones but I also spend time talking to them before working out a weekend price. Does it cost more? Sure. But I have sex available on demand all weekend and no pressure to keep looking for girls and paying entry fees and so forth. To each his own.

Just remember to have a good time, share your experiences and enjoy in your own way.[/QUOTE]Much respect and appreciation for your approach Anaggie. But, for me I prefer to get around and try to fuck as many different girls as I can. So hit this club tonight. Then hit this one the next night and so on. Even flying off to another city to sample the delights of the clubs there. Then before I depart the country circle back to the clubs that I enjoyed the most for one more go. And since Brazil has lots of good online options too, I might try an online girl here and there. Everybody must learn to play the game differently depending on what works for them from a time, budget, and pure sexual desire standpoint.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2770893]Now to the kicker to my story: I still wanted to hook up with Miss Beautiful especially after her brief acknowledgement of my presence at the hotel's front desk. I figured that without her 3 Brazilian VIP'ers waiting in the wings she would ask a more reasonable price from me. So, I looked for her on several subsequent visits to Scandallo. Unfortunately, I never saw her again. Too bad. HA HA. And so, Miss Beautiful is my 2022 girl that got away. I always remember the ones that got away. KKK.[/QUOTE]And I would always remember the ones that allowed BBCIP! Hope she was on birth control bro!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2770921]And I would always remember the ones that allowed BBCIP! Hope she was on birth control bro![/QUOTE]No worries, mate. After we finished showering and getting dressed, she mentioned the day after pill, plus I am at that age where my boys no longer pack the punch they once did, KKK, so I am 100% sure that she did not get pregnant. We exchanged WhatsApp numbers and I saw her 2 more times while I was in town. I am still in touch with her, and I will probably see her again in May. She has one kid already and I know that the last thing she wants is to have another one. I got tested after I came home because she wasn't the only one. So, all's well that ends well.

Brazilian girls are conservative on the BBFS issue. You might want to stay away from the PI and Indonesia if this is of real concern to you because the girls over there are way, way looser. Personally, I find it very hard, almost impossible to resist BBFS when it is available, and when the girl is of high quality. I would cover up every time were I to go to Vila Mimosa in RJ for example. But then slum surfing is not my thing and I have not been to that part of town. I see little reason to go.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2770503]You can read this post. My suggestion is for newbies, do it like I said and learn from there if you don't know and don't want to be taken advantage of. It's a starting point and you may reach a final price in between. I have other source about the same girl so I know it is likely true

I am going to repeat what I have posted before. You can get attractive girls online for around 500-600. You add the girl's cost of 250 to 300 to work at Scandallo. The girl needs to charge 800-900 to make the same amount of money so I think that is a reasonable price for an attractive girl that is not a Scandallo regular. Just keep in mind that it is an estimate what a reasonable price is, it is not the price you will get. The numbers may have changed but the math is the same.

Coincidently, I have posted a picture of a Scandallo girl here before. She is one of the most attractive girls I met at Scandallo. She charged 800 at Scandallo and 600 online. There was an online discussion by locals about her. She accepted only a few online sessions a week because she said she could easily get paid more at Scandallo. She schooled me about inflation too.

I also don't think all girls pay to work there. I met a girl who was sent there by her agency. My guess is she does not have to pay because she was asked to be present there. I had her in my place several times and she would mention to me when she would be at Scandallo because the owner asked their presence. There is no reason for her to pay to work at Scandallo for one day a week on a slow day.

I think this price may stick eventually. I went to a Medellin club about a month ago. All quotes are in USD. The least amount is 200USD/hr and the most is 300USD/hr. The girls are not even attractive to me. This place used to be 200 mil COP. My guess is some tourists misunderstood 200 as 200 USD and paid that. Then it became a scam to trap tourists, and now it becomes a standard opening price. 200 USD in about 1 million COP in today's exchange rate.[/QUOTE]I'm curios about the Medellin club you are referring to because to my knowledge no club like that exist unless your referring to Gusto. If so the girls all start at 200 $ but 80% of them will leave with you for 350-400 mill.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2770995]No worries, mate. After we finished showering and getting dressed, she mentioned the day after pill, plus I am at that age where my boys no longer pack the punch they once did, KKK, so I am 100% sure that she did not get pregnant. We exchanged WhatsApp numbers and I saw her 2 more times while I was in town. I am still in touch with her, and I will probably see her again in May. She has one kid already and I know that the last thing she wants is to have another one. I got tested after I came home because she wasn't the only one. So, all's well that ends well.

Brazilian girls are conservative on the BBFS issue. You might want to stay away from the PI and Indonesia if this is of real concern to you because the girls over there are way, way looser. Personally, I find it very hard, almost impossible to resist BBFS when it is available, and when the girl is of high quality. I would cover up every time were I to go to Vila Mimosa in RJ for example. But then slum surfing is not my thing and I have not been to that part of town. I see little reason to go.[/QUOTE]I'm well aware of the modus operandi in the PI. I spent a month traipsing around those islands. BBFS was the default setting for those girls.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2770337]Are they asking you to submit the IDs in advance or for the guests to give their IDs at the lobby? Most luxury buildings in Brazil require people to give their IDS to be copied, photos taken and even fingerprints. This is very common and all the GPS know and do this. I've stayed in buildings that have tighter security than most banks with fingerprint access and double gated entry / driveway. I try to find an Airbnb that doesn't require advance submission, which is usually the host policy and not the building policy. If the guest policy is not clear, sometimes I would ask the host. I tell them I'm in SP for work and would it be ok for me to invite 1-2 coworkers over. I mention they will be quiet and will not use the common spaces. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]Sorry for late reply and thanks. The host told me in the airbnb chat that I need to report them in the chat but one hooker told me she has already been to where I'm staying at and they just took her documents and called the tenant (my airbnb also has fingerprint access and double gate). Turns out that was exactly what they did in my case when I ordered another one. Now it's time for me to try one at the 500+ price level.

[QUOTE=SteelDh;2771012]I'm curios about the Medellin club you are referring to because to my knowledge no club like that exist unless your referring to Gusto. If so the girls all start at 200 $ but 80% of them will leave with you for 350-400 mill.[/QUOTE]Yes, Gusto. Not saying it is impossible, it is just based on my observation that I am not sure they will leave at that price. My comment mainly is talking about how it evolved from an accident to a scam to just straight USD, less about how much they actually get. On the street outside, one negra that was the most attractive to me and my wingman asked for 350, and she would not come down in price the next day when I contacted here during daytime, while most people say they would lower their price. I have ran this experiment more than once

The reason I went is because I read a report by a member about his experience so I went to see if I could reproduce it. My experience differs simply because none were that attractive.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2770605]...How does your math work for pernoites?[/QUOTE]I don't do pernoites that is why I don't talk about it. I am also in a different situation because I spend more time here so I have time on my side. I never talked to girls about hourly stuff either, and I rarely have girls talking to me about time. I went with girls to love motel a few times, and it was at least a couple of hours in the motel. When they come to my place, they never mention time either. I just want to relax after work, so I invite one and they would stay with no rush. I think this may have something to do with the girl I picked. I usually pick new faces. It's like shopping. I am not likely to get someone in Scandallo that I can get elsewhere at much lower price or I know is a regular. I will pay reasonable asking price if it is someone that is rare which could mean she is a lawyer, an 18 yr old English speaking university student, or simply a very attractive girl. I guess to them, it's a sure bet coming to me and less time then going to Scandallo since I am paying them what I paid in Scandallo

I think in this aspect, it is much better in Medellin since most girls that I know don't have jobs or don't want to get a job. They would come and stay several hours for around 50 USD. They are less educated then Brasileras that I know but they can be wild in a different way after they get to know you. They all love weeds and we know what that can do.

It took me a while to figure out. This is how one girl talks when she is stoned. lol

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2770893]Part 1: Miss Beautiful or the one that got away, but A. H. Has a happy ending anyway.[/QUOTE]Nice Story!