Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=PianoPlayer;1665810]The cambio at Oviedo is paying 2125 pesos to the dollar today. Meanwhile an ATM withdrawal netted me about 2330. I think you can do better with a Schwab account. The published rate today is 2444. Bringing cash is not a good idea in the current environment. Use a no-fee or low-fee ATM card. Another option is to send yourself money via [URL]xoom.com[/URL], they post 2327 today, minus a $5 fee.[/QUOTE]Goggle "is xoom safe company" and read some reports before using them.

[QUOTE=Viper10;1665813]Of course the free boos for the girls turned into free boos for the guys also. Mind you I have no problem offering to all the guys, but I must say I was surprised how little offers I got. One doctor who is a stand up guy offered to buy a bottle and ended up buying 2 bottles. Another guy put in 100 k. Other than that, not one other guy even offered money or to buy a bottle. Nothing. It's really not about the money. It's more of the gesture. I was really really surprised guys didn't offer anything. Oh well.
[/QUOTE]Most of us are probably surprised that you were surprised, LOL. You paid for all the booze and paid 20k to each chica that came. All the guys had to do were show up! If it were anywhere other than the mansion you could have easily have had a sausage fest (too many bros, not enough hoez) on your hand.

The way I have always seen those kind of parties done in the past is to have the guys pay 30-50 k if they want to get into the party. That way you don't have to expect them to be on the honor system (asking them to contribute something).

Just don't do like a few sleeze bags have done in the past: charge guys to get in and then ask them to split the final bill with you at the end of the night.

Hey man good TR. It never even crossed my mind to throw your own party like you own the place. I'm sure by now maybe some more guys have thrown more cash in the hat. Maybe they ran out of cash late at night and only had 150 k left for their chica fee. I know that happened to me once or twice where I took money out early went shopping etc and forgot to go back to the ATM at night. For a party with 30+ chicas and free booze. It should be 150 k min per guy. More if they had a good time. Just to show the gesture of appreciation to you and Robert and the house staff. I have a few questions I hope you don't mind me sending you a PM. How many guys were there? For 30 chicas you would need at least 12-15 guys. I would think. My buddies are now asking me to take them on a trip there. We might do the same as you did. I already have a ton of ideas. BTW you should've had as much free sex from any of the girls as a thank you for the invite to the party. Just my 2 cents. Great tr. Any pics?

[QUOTE=Hutzesq;1665445]Blue Change. Thanks for your response. I am not concerned about what the girls think of my height, just concerned about finding petite girls. I am aware that it is over 2400 pesos to the US Dollar so Columbia would be an excellent value now.

I contacted the Mansion about using the bar without staying at the hotel and this is the response I got:

"The bar its only for guest but when we are fully booked we make a few exceptions, if you are in town email us and we can ask if this can be done. Please keep in mind if you do come there is a cover fee of $50.000 COP. "

While the Mansion is available the first night I would be in town, after that I would have to find other arrangements and hope that the Mansion lets me use the bar. I see ColumbiaJake has good reviews for tours and assisting gringos, but the concept of a complete monger hotel like the Mansion is pretty compelling and it seems like I screwed up by waiting to book this trip. Given this I may go with Costa Rica (I did find a few reviews on the Costa Rica Forum comparing Columbia to Costa Rica, the one from Chris Long in September 2013 is pretty detailed and not that favorable to Costa Rica). Any other advice or thoughts from the Forum would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Hilltopper;1665788]If it's your first time and your Spanish is only so-so, given that the Mansion is booked, you may want to give Cartagena a try for a maiden voyage to Colombia. What are your dates? Many times a guy can meet-up with a fellow monger there to get a quick run-down on things and have a great time on his own even though it's his first time.

Again, if the Mansion weren't booked, then you'd be set, but with not being able to stay there, you may want to consider Cartagena.[/QUOTE]What Hilltopper forgot to include in his post is that Cartagena is twice as expensive for basically everything, and if you think that you are going to be better off in Cartagena because of the language factor forget it. It is no different in Cartagena than it is in Medellin. My advice to you is to stay in Medellin, as I am sure you will enjoy your stay much more than you would if going to Cartagena and spending a fortune. Also staying at the Mansion or whatever it is now called your first night you will have the opportunity to meet others who can share there knowledge with you. I think Hilltopper is asking you to come to Cartagena possibly because he is looking for a date.

[QUOTE=Viper10;1665813]Well tonight is my last night in Medellin. I will be headed to Cartagena for a few nights. As always, the Mansion was fun. We got all the support we needed and I 100% will be back.

Viper 10.[/QUOTE]Nice reports, Viper.

You are doing everything right IMO. You got out and saw some of the the city's different P4P venues. You might have blown too much money for mediocre results at La Isla but you never would known anything about the place if you didn't go there and experience the girls at least once, right? I applaud you for getting out there and having another experience to compare to your others.

I also want to add that you are not a sucker for getting involved and spending money on the party. The guys who didn't chip in are cheapskates and / or disconnected and don't get it IMSO. As you said a gesture would have been nice. For you new guys who are staying at The Mansion. If you see food in the common areas for the girls, that sh*t didn't just appear by magic. Offer to kick in a few pesos. As I always say be a gentleman, don't be cheap, and repeat habits that work.

Continued luck with the rest of your journey.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1665821]Goggle "is xoom safe company" and read some reports before using them.[/QUOTE]I have used XOOM for years, sending tens of thousands of dollars through them since I reside outside of the United States, and have never had a problem with them. 5 star recommendation from me.

Ncal, yes there was probably 12-15 guys. I can't imagine anyone staying there that didn't attend. People said it was the best party they had seen there. Don't know. We had fun though. I really didn't expect people to contribute or pay an entrance fee, I guess I just expected guys to offer. Just to show appreciation. I would be happy to answer any questions you have. Feel free to PM me.

[QUOTE=PianoPlayer;1665810]The cambio at Oviedo is paying 2125 pesos to the dollar today. Meanwhile an ATM withdrawal netted me about 2330. I think you can do better with a Schwab account. The published rate today is 2444. Bringing cash is not a good idea in the current environment. Use a no-fee or low-fee ATM card. Another option is to send yourself money via [URL]xoom.com[/URL], they post 2327 today, minus a $5 fee.[/QUOTE]When you say "use a Schwab account" do you mean use a Charles Schwab bank card (linked to a Schwab checking / savings account) at an ATM in Medellin or do you mean something else like getting a wire from a US Schwab account to a bank in Medellin?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Viper10;1665813]We slept until 7:30 pm and then got ready for La Cueva. It was Sunday night so Cueva was dead. We decided to hit the strip clubs. We hit San Diego first where there was definitely some talent. My buddies wanted to see La Isla since it is talked about so much. We had a bottle and red bulls at San Diego and on the CC came out to 283 k pesos. They charge 16% surcharge for CC. We headed to La Isla and it was closed. Bummer. We then went to Fase II. Not bad. Some quality there. 2 of my friend liked Fase II better and 2 of us myself included liked San Diego. We had a bottle there and I think it was around 350 k for just the bottle, no red bulls or anything. They charged 10% surcharge for putting it on a credit card. When it was nearing their closing time of 2 am, we started to negotiate with 3 girls. All of them had no problem leaving after 2 am, skipping the house fee and coming short time for 200 k. So we negotiated 200 k each for ST and then told them if we wanted them all night we would pay more. Result? Nobody really clicked with their girl. They were ok. It's hard to get a good GF experience with strippers that you just met for an hour. We didn't get time to party and relax and really get into it with them. So what do you get? Mediocre results.

Viper 10.[/QUOTE]I like the idea of waiting till 2 am to get a girl without the Multa.

Hell, for what the take out fee is you could bang a girl on-site, and if things went well tell her after 2 you wanted a repeat, and if they didn't, pull the plug and avoid hassle, or go with another girl, for not that much more money.

Anyone know closing time at La Isla? 2 or much later?

[QUOTE=Hutzesq;1665946]When you say "use a Schwab account" do you mean use a Charles Schwab bank card (linked to a Schwab checking / savings account) at an ATM in Medellin or do you mean something else like getting a wire from a US Schwab account to a bank in Medellin?

Thanks[/QUOTE]He's talking about the SCHWAB investor checking account:

[URL]http://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/banking_lending/checking_account[/URL]

Highly recommended. They reimburse all of your ATM fees and now ship the cards with the new chip / pin technology in them. Best to use the card with the CitiBank ATMs in Medellin. Never had any problems with the card or Schwab for as long as I have been using them. Just be sure to call them before your trip and place a travel alert on your card, else they may shut it down until you call them and let them know what is up (they shut them down if they suspect fraud taking place on your account).

Also note: the checking account comes linked to a brokerage account, but you do not have to do anything with the brokerage account, nor keep any money in it. Just be aware that any money you Xfer to the account will most likely land in the brokerage account first.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1666084]He's talking about the SCHWAB investor checking account:

[URL]http://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/banking_lending/checking_account[/URL]

Highly recommended. They reimburse all of your ATM fees and now ship the cards with the new chip / pin technology in them. Best to use the card with the CitiBank ATMs in Medellin. Never had any problems with the card or Schwab for as long as I have been using them. Just be sure to call them before your trip and place a travel alert on your card, else they may shut it down until you call them and let them know what is up (they shut them down if they suspect fraud taking place on your account).

Also note: the checking account comes linked to a brokerage account, but you do not have to do anything with the brokerage account, nor keep any money in it. Just be aware that any money you Xfer to the account will most likely land in the brokerage account first.[/QUOTE]The Schwab card is great. I've used it around the world with no fees. I even used it at Spearmint Rhino in Vegas and the $30 fee was waived. So it even eliminates those high club surcharges. I don't use the checking account. And it's nice to have the cash come straight out of my brokerage account.

[QUOTE=Viper10;1665813]Today my buddy and I visited Energy. I was very impressed with the place. Very clean and we got there right when all the hotties were available. I must admit I didn't expect such a solid lineup. Pricing is 130 k for the hour, which includes a shower, massage and everything else. I paid my girl a tip of 50 k for a BBBJ and CIM. My buddy also had a great experience. We just couldn't believe for $60 you get an hour of this.

We slept until 7:30 pm and then got ready for La Cueva. It was Sunday night so Cueva was dead. We decided to hit the strip clubs. We hit San Diego first where there was definitely some talent. My buddies wanted to see La Isla since it is talked about so much. We had a bottle and red bulls at San Diego and on the CC came out to 283 k pesos. They charge 16% surcharge for CC. We headed to La Isla and it was closed. Bummer. We then went to Fase II. Not bad. Some quality there. 2 of my friend liked Fase II better and 2 of us myself included liked San Diego. We had a bottle there and I think it was around 350 k for just the bottle, no red bulls or anything. They charged 10% surcharge for putting it on a credit card. When it was nearing their closing time of 2 am, we started to negotiate with 3 girls. All of them had no problem leaving after 2 am, skipping the house fee and coming short time for 200 k. So we negotiated 200 k each for ST and then told them if we wanted them all night we would pay more. Result? Nobody really clicked with their girl. They were ok. It's hard to get a good GF experience with strippers that you just met for an hour. We didn't get time to party and relax and really get into it with them. So what do you get? Mediocre results.

Day 4..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the firsthand report on Energy. How does a guy request a BBBJ in Spanish? I've graduated from Pimsluer but that wasn't included in their lesson plans.

A friend and I visited OM Massage for Men, located on the 4th floor of Rio Sur Mall in El Poblado.

On entering, I liked that the waiting area was clean and professional. There were four massage rooms and the one I was shown to was good-sized, clean and nicely appointed. My massage therapist, Joanna, was attractive but not beautiful.

Bear in mind that I've had a lot of massages in China and some in Vietnam, so when I tell you the massage was below-average, some might still find it enjoyable. However, when it came to the grand finale, Joanna oiled-up hermanito and brought him to a sure and satisfying release. First-rate! Yet my friend in the next room did not get similar treatment, for no apparent reason. Anyone know if the final release is uncertain here?

Cost? 80,000 cop paid at the front desk after the massage, plus 10,000 cop propina to Joanna. All in, that translates to less than USD 40.

I found my visit to OM a nice alternative to my usual diet of facebook prepagos and over-30 freebies. Would I repeat? Probably not, due to the weak massage.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1665659]"FB Chica" is a misnomer: they don't work for Facebook, LOL.

As far as a chica that you met on Facebook? Whatever the two of you decide on. I would work it out before inviting her over so that there is no misunderstanding though, because if she arrives and you were thinking 70k and she was thinking 250k, you've just wasted each other's time (and it already takes them forever to get to your place due to traffic).[/QUOTE]Here's what works for me. I use FB chat or whatsapp for working out the details in advance, including price.

1. I start by asking her a short question: "Cuanto?" "How much?" I think it is best to get them to make the first offer.

2. The chicas usually will start with 200 mil or 150 mil. If she asks more than 200 mil, I don't counter, I just say "Tan mucho" "Too much. ".

3. If she starts at 200 mil, and she is especially hot in her fotos (8-ish), I'll counter at 150 mil. If normally hot (7-ish), I'll counter at 100 mil.

4. If we agree on a number, I ask her to pay the taxis.

5. Sometimes she will ask me to pay her taxi one way, which I may agree to, or I may not.

6. If the chica says "for one hour" or something like that, I say, "Sure, but I'm going to make you want to stay longer, because you will enjoy yourself. " This plants the idea that I am going to treat her well, as if she is my GF, which both reassures her and gets her ready for a mutually-enjoyable encounter.

Recently I have paid, all-in, 150 mil and 130 mil for chicas I meet on Facebook. I have a new one ready for a first visit who asks 200 mil. If she looks as good in person as she does in her fotos, I will pay it at least once, then offer her 150 mil for subsequent visits. I have paid as little as 100 mil, but that chica was not up to the level of others, so I haven't invited her back.

One overlying principle in arranging the price is to avoid outright conflict. Otherwise you are setting yourself up for a mechanical performance. Who wants to come over and get naked with a jerk, even if the money is good? On the other hand, overpaying creates an impression of unfamiliarity with the market, or outright carelessness. For me, diligent yet polite negotiation is a precursor to a great encounter.

Let me know what works for you.

[QUOTE=Archimedes;1666162]



2. The chicas usually will start with 200 mil or 150 mil. If she asks more than 200 mil, I don't counter, I just say "Tan mucho" "Too much. ".

[/QUOTE]Nice post, except "demasiado" would be a better word to use for "too much".