Manila

[QUOTE=Goons;2110877]Just a quick question, I've scanned a few pages and don't have the time to go through discussions on taxi preferences. From what little I've read so far, Burgos is a main street for first timers with lots of bars and stuff but overpriced. The rest of the reports seem to lean towards upscale bars with and internet hookups which is not really what I'm looking for.

Are there any other options in the city, casa / brothel types or SW that I can take up to my hotel, Sukhumvit style? I lived in Manila for a couple of months 20 years ago and I remember being able to drive up to massage parlors and not having to pay more than 2500 php for full service which is generally what I prefer.[/QUOTE]To Goons.

Yes 20 yr ago there are many casa and massage place all over Manila not any more, most action now days is in bar and freelance yes price is much more than 20 yr ago and than is why most monger go to AC now.

Fast Eddie 48.

Hahaha Goons. You were getting screwed 20 years ago!

[QUOTE=Goons;2110877]Just a quick question, I've scanned a few pages and don't have the time to go through discussions on taxi preferences. From what little I've read so far,[/QUOTE]Read some more. There are plenty of SW on Burgos street, starting around 6 pm.

[QUOTE=Slippery;2111406]Hahaha Goons. You were getting screwed 20 years ago![/QUOTE]Correct, and I advised him similarly via PM. And he will get screwed again, if he is not careful. I advised him to research ISG more.

Lazy mongers get lazy results. I am lazy by nature, but when it comes to sex, I lift my game, of necessity.

Hahaha and many Filipinas are even lazier than us, but when they smell "green" they accelerate up to the next level quickly.

[QUOTE=Slippery;2112524]Hahaha and many Filipinas are even lazier than us, but when they smell "green" they accelerate up to the next level quickly.[/QUOTE]And when they see green (bucks), they accelerate too.

Its human nature, regardless of the country, LOL.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2105778]Also at T3 there is a stand for Grab rides.[/QUOTE]And at T4 too.

Been in country 3 months now and time for my TR. I am retired here and have time so my strategy will not work for vacation or work trips. It is a little time consuming and takes a couple hours every day but since all I really have to do is look for pussy that is not an issue. There is also a lead time for first contact and sex. Shortest is 4 hours, longest is ongoing 6 weeks texting as we cannot get our schedules together.

I use PL and Tinder. I have established a rotating stable of about 5 girls and see one just about every night. Shelf life is about 2 to 6 weeks for a girl so always looking for a replacement.

Basically, I chat them a time or two online, ask for their number and continue on Viber or WhatsApp. I am open to a long-term relationship and let them know that but I have not found the right one. Yet.

Any asking for money, beyond transportation money before first meeting is an immediate drop. I will send a Uber or Grab on my account so I don't have to send money.

I get numbers about 40% of the women I contact. If they only come back with one-word replies I'll usually drop them. My success rate once I get a number is about 50% for first dates. It is usually me that stops the process and not the girl rejecting a meeting. Once I have the first date my success in getting them into bed is about 80%, again it is usually me that stops the process. Reasons for dropping them are if their pictures do not represent their current looks (often 4 years and 40 lbs ago LOL).

I keep my new contact rate down to just keep the pipeline full and not to burn possible dates by contacting them too soon before I could see them.

I'll also drop them if they are simply too stupid to have a decent conservation or bad in the sack.

I will date once without sex but unless she is hot it is sex second date or drops. I'll only chat over a couple weeks before first meeting or drop them. They often ask to bring a friend first date and I am OK with that.

Only once so far has anything happened with the friend. It was a 3 some with sisters who cleaned my apartment in the nude afterward. Had them back for a second visit. They wanted an allowance of 40000 total to be live in's but they were simply too stupid to even talk with so I declined. Had they been able to have a decent conservation and not wanted to watch cartoons, at high volume, when not f**king or cleaning then I might have gone for it.

Any girl that is good in bed, can have a conservation and provide enjoyable company outside the bed will go on the rotation.

I will usually give them a 1000 or 2000 for "transportation" but not often much else. My costs run about 40000 p a month for sex 25 days.

I have gone outside this routine a few times. I had a girl stay a week, then we went to a resort area for another week. She never asked for anything. I tried to give her 10000 but she refused and would only accept 5000.

On rare days when I strike out I'll go to a local massage place. Abacca is my favorite, in walking distance from my condo.

FWTW I am in my 60's and am hunting for the 20 to 35-year-old age range. Only had a couple over that, oldest so far was 41, youngest was 20.

Did chat with one on FB messenger who claimed to be 19 but her FB page said she was just short of 17th birthday. I ran from that one quickly, deleted chat and blocked contact. I stay away from less than 20 as a claimed age as the risk of then being less than 18 is too high and that young usually does not know what they want.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2113150]I will date once without sex but unless she is hot it is sex second date or drops. I'll only chat over a couple weeks before first meeting or drop them. They often ask to bring a friend first date and I am OK with that.

Only once so far has anything happened with the friend. It was a 3 some with sisters who cleaned my apartment in the nude afterward. Had them back for a second visit. They wanted an allowance of 40000 total to be live in's but they were simply too stupid to even talk with so I declined. Had they been able to have a decent conservation and not wanted to watch cartoons, at high volume, when not f**king or cleaning then I might have gone for it.

Any girl that is good in bed, can have a conservation and provide enjoyable company outside the bed will go on the rotation.[/QUOTE]Fascinating, want to hear more! One question right now though. With the sisters, what time period did the requested 40,000 cover? I wonder about similar arrangements myself, but I am completely with you on the brains part. There's only so long you get value from some animatronic squishy toys.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2113150]Only once so far has anything happened with the friend. It was a 3 some with sisters who cleaned my apartment in the nude afterward. Had them back for a second visit. They wanted an allowance of 40000 total to be live in's but they were simply too stupid to even talk with so I declined. Had they been able to have a decent conservation and not wanted to watch cartoons, at high volume, when not f**king or cleaning then I might have gone for it.[/QUOTE]Another "Only In Asia" problem: when $30 a day for sister threesomes gets knocked back by a grandpa as lacking value.

Kabul, you are my hero.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2113150]I use PL and Tinder. I have established a rotating stable of about 5 girls and see one just about every night. Shelf life is about 2 to 6 weeks for a girl so always looking for a replacement.[/QUOTE]That is a textbook operation you are running KG. As big as Manila is, your pool will never run short.

Bro,

Your business model is unique. A thing or two to learn from your experience. God bless dear.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2113150]Been in country 3 months now and time for my TR. I am retired here and have time so my strategy will not work for vacation or work trips. It is a little time consuming and takes a couple hours every day but since all I really have to do is look for pussy that is not an issue. There is also a lead time for first contact and sex. Shortest is 4 hours, longest is ongoing 6 weeks texting as we cannot get our schedules together.

I use PL and Tinder. I have established a rotating stable of about 5 girls and see one just about every night. Shelf life is about 2 to 6 weeks for a girl so always looking for a replacement.

Basically, I chat them a time or two online, ask for their number and continue on Viber or WhatsApp. I am open to a long-term relationship and let them know that but I have not found the right one. Yet.

Any asking for money, beyond transportation money before first meeting is an immediate drop. I will send a Uber or Grab on my account so I don't have to send money..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2113150]Been in country 3 months now and time for my TR. I am retired here and have time so my strategy will not work for vacation or work trips. It is a little time consuming and takes a couple hours every day but since all I really have to do is look for pussy that is not an issue. There is also a lead time for first contact and sex. Shortest is 4 hours, longest is ongoing 6 weeks texting as we cannot get our schedules together.[/QUOTE]Great retirement.

One of the many things from this is the "not contacting too many". If your roster is full then no need to be burning off good future contacts.

Happy days.

BD.

From time to time I enjoy a massage with extras – at the very least the classic 'rub and tug', although I do like the massage to be a decent massage, a real 9/10 effort, rather than this 'running her hands lightly over my body' nonsense.

If I seek out one of these in Manila, what's the typical damage for extras such as the tug or a bodyslide? I figure the massage component will be cheap as chips but the extras will quickly head north, so keen to get a real-world idea of that so they don't charge me the 'white guy' tax and I end up paying well above the mark.

Usually I favour rub'and'tugs on my home turf and as an example, using standard Aussie prices for your mid-range Asian shop, you're looking at $60/ HR massage plus $20 for the tug and an extra $30 for her to strip off, so a fully-naked tug costs almost the same ($50) as the one-hour session itself ($60). Was thinking that this ratio be a decent guide in Manila and elsewhere, but then again I'm working off a small sample here so the concept of this ratio as a rule of thumb could be way off!

Thanks guys and at SXX and Westcoast for your PM's. I've only just had time today to check in since my last post. I have a couple of hours today but I need to mix in some actual travel research, and I don't imagine having much more free time from now until late next week so every little bit is highly appreciated.

It wasn't quite 20 years ago, early 2000's and these were high end places I was talking about in my earlier post, not the random street ones in the red light areas. My local friends seemed to think the prices were good for the day, maybe the fact that Japanese businessmen were also regulars at these places drove up the prices but I would have happily paid more for the quality of the girls in some of those places.

Anyway, back to the present where I will be doing solo without much prior experience apparently based on inaccurate information. From the high number of posts regarding internet hookups, I take it the bar and SW scenes in Manila now are rather weak, or is it just a preference of the regulars to use apps? I was able to do one quick search the other day and other than Burgos, it seems the Ermita area is another place for bars and SW's which is what I'll now spend my remaining free afternoon researching in addition to doing actual travel research.