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[QUOTE=Waffles;1672846]Can anyone explain the uniformed massage girls that hang out at the entrance of Walking St near Phillies in the evening? Are they strictly massage or massage++? Can they be trusted?

Thanks,

Waffles.[/QUOTE]They are massage ++. Pick the cutest one and take her back. Behave during the massage, and then on the flip, she will give it a grip, and you can ask for more. It is hit or miss with the BBBJ or covered BJ or just the HJ. But few will go full service. But if they are cute, getting their shirt off, and getting a HJ can be alot of fun. It is hard to find such cute girls that are working the clubs and bar fining.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1672864]With all the hookers in the bars, why must you attempt to make a hooker out of someone who is not one? Classic Garden of Eden syndrome.[/QUOTE]I'm not trying to make a hooker out of anyone??? I'm just curious and enjoy legit massages, with or without ++.

[QUOTE=Waffles;1672846]Can anyone explain the uniformed massage girls that hang out at the entrance of Walking St near Phillies in the evening? Are they strictly massage or massage++? Can they be trusted?

Thanks,

Waffles.[/QUOTE]They are awesome 200 per hour massage.

I've used them many times.

Grab their card on the way in or at least a number and save it, as it comes in handy.

If you call them they come on time, and you can call them anytime.

As far as any extras I have never tried, but I am sure something can be arranged. And I don't think I ever will try.

Many decades ago, I learned that if you want something done right, get a professional.

If you want a good massage, then get a pro.

If you want a good shag then get a pro.

If you want a GF, then get one of them.

The massage girls are often very hot, in my opinion. I don't push for anything, but rather just see what develops. My hunch is that few of the hot ones offer full service, but many will offer a hand job.

Here's my sampling. One didn't offer anything extra, but shorted me by 15 minutes and complained about a 200 Peso tip. Another offered a nice handjob, so I saw her twice. She seemed reluctant to go further than that. A third one didn't even offer a hand job, but enjoyed getting naked a making out. I've seen her multiple times.

It's a different experience, probably not everyone's cup of tea. Not knowing what's going to happen adds to the excitement. Just don't expect sex or be an a-hole with them.

Gentlemen, thanks for the excellent replies. Good to know. Some of them massage girls are quite cute and I would be plenty happy getting a legit massage from them.

[QUOTE=Waffles;1672846]Can anyone explain the uniformed massage girls that hang out at the entrance of Walking St near Phillies in the evening? Are they strictly massage or massage++? Can they be trusted?

Thanks,

Waffles.[/QUOTE]

Is it my imagination or do the some of the Fields Ave bars jam cell phone signals? I can't understand why I have 4 bars in one and nothing in the next bar. I can see the logic in doing so.

Over the years I've learned that the classic symptom of having your phone near a jammer is that the phone shuts down all cellular communications until its rebooted. I've been in some of these bars, had no signal, and when I walked out into the street I still had no signal until I rebooted the phone. I know the PI has quirky cellular signals however I'm quite sure that's not the issue.

[QUOTE=Waffles;1672923]Is it my imagination or do the some of the Fields Ave bars jam cell phone signals? I can't understand why I have 4 bars in one and nothing in the next bar. I can see the logic in doing so.

Over the years I've learned that the classic symptom of having your phone near a jammer is that the phone shuts down all cellular communications until its rebooted. I've been in some of these bars, had no signal, and when I walked out into the street I still had no signal until I rebooted the phone. I know the PI has quirky cellular signals however I'm quite sure that's not the issue.[/QUOTE]Can't imagine bar owners want the non-dancing girls sitting about on their cell phones? Nor do they want them txting customers who are looking to get the girl to 'cheat the bar'? One punter on this board carries one with him when he travels to monger (makes for a quiet night in the room after the lights go out).

I've just assumed it was poor signal strength and tower design that was stopping them from working in the bars. But now I think it is just too consistent. Probably the jammers can be bought on the streets without too much issue.

On a different topic, tlaking about low BF I spoke to one of my regular AC gfs and talked to her about the option of working as a freelancer at HiSo. Just asking if she ever considered that. She was totally shocked by that kind of work, she liked the structure of the bar scene. I think that there is also a bit of risk assessment by the mamasan which the BF includes and the girls enjoy, so working the bars is less risky for the girls although they get less of a cut. The HiSo working girls (not all girls there are 'working' migt get more money on a nightly basis but maybe don't get picked up every week or get a cut of lady drinks.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1672864]With all the hookers in the bars, why must you attempt to make a hooker out of someone who is not one? Classic Garden of Eden syndrome.[/QUOTE]I guess when they are standing at the entrance of Walking Street to get customers it's pretty obvious what they are looking for.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1672976]I've just assumed it was poor signal strength and tower design that was stopping them from working in the bars. But now I think it is just too consistent. Probably the jammers can be bought on the streets without too much issue.
[/QUOTE]They sell handheld jammers on the streets of Hong Kong or at Bangkok's Panthip Plaza but they have limited effectiveness. To jam the cell phone signal in a bar the size of Crystal Palace / Dollhouse takes a behemoth jammer the size of a suitcase. Last night I couldn't get any signal in Dollhouse and the adjoining Crystal Palace however I had 4 bars in the Golden Nile (or whatever its called now) down the street. Both are similar sized mega-bars.

I would call it a wise move on behalf of the bar owners because most of us would like to check our txt and messages before committing to a BF. As there's more bars than I have time for, I'm going to start shying away from those where you can't pick up a signal.

Not that it would matter, but according to [URL]http://www.cellular-news.com/story/Regulatory/41825.php[/URL], jammers are illegal to posses in the PI as in most countries.

Waffles.

I can 100% say they are NOT jamming cell phones in the bars. Its your phone. Its just not getting signals.

Everyone, The managers, Mamasans, and the girls would NOT have communications with NO ONE. Mangers couldn't / wouldn't have any means of being warned about possible raids. No one would be able to communicate with family for emergencies and MOST have kids. Expats would complain too. They couldn't communicate with anyone either. No one benefits. And it would [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off too many people.

There is no benefit. Like you others wouldn't go to a bar jamming signals either. No bar would ever attempt it. Too many would complain. Jamming cell phones is big time illegal. The bar would either stop, go out of business, or be raided due to complaints to PNP eventually.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1673008]I guess when they are standing at the entrance of Walking Street to get customers it's pretty obvious what they are looking for.[/QUOTE]But of course there are two types. There are the FL SW girls asking if you want a "massage" then there are those wearing uniforms handing out flyers for the establishment that they work in. I assumed he meant the latter legit ones.

I just spent three days in Cebu while my Angeles crush went to the province.

After four girls in Cebu ranging from amazing to forgettable to a beautiful, fun duo who unfortunately weren't as good in bed as they were in personality or looks.

Plus another girl here in Angeles because Darling is still with her family.

I've gotten over the one-it is somewhat.

Friendship highway.

I went to Candy Bar, where my old girlfriend used to work.

Luckily, one of her friends recognized me. She's outgoing and fun and I'm not attracted much to her. A perfect wing girl.

So I didn't have to try to get each girl to trust me during a lady drink. I just told my old friend to let them know I was a good guy, and it was on.

It reminded me of being there with my ex-girlfriend, which made me freer with the ladies drinks: soon I had four girls around me. One of them started to play with my dick: hmm, friendship highway is looser than fields. Then two of them played with it. Then a third tested it: hard even without viagra, LOL.

Barfine: 1700. And they call it a barfine, unlike the fields bars that are now calling it something like: the money you pay so that the girl can go home early. Which used to be: the 10 ladies drinks you buy so that the girl can go home early. Which used to be: the barfine.

The girls were about 25 and 27, plus one girl who spoke Cebuano who was 20. After she played with my dick, I put my hand in her bikini top: mmm, 20 year old breasts on a girl being playful with my dick. That made my decision.

Cebuano, but not so much Tagalog, and little English. No wonder she wasn't in on the conversation at the bar.

She made me kind of forget about my crush.

She totally got into the sex. Swollen clit, wet, moaning, thrashing. Then we fell asleep. Hours later I tried putting her hand on my dick. She wouldn't do it. I waited fifteen minutes, then started more softly, with massage, then pussy massage, then lube massage on that sweet flower.

Damn, she got totally into it again.

This place is amazing.

Smell pussies.

Damn, there are a lot of them. Only my crush smells fresh. And she liked the the no-condom approach, after the first time with a condom. Every other girl gets a condom, after failing the sniff test. My first crush in Angeles told me a lot of girls get a bacterial infection which might not be an STD, but just from the hygiene of people who don't have as much access to toilet paper, and good showers. My second girlfriend here had a new strong smell once when I came back from a few months away. She was still working in the bar, I'm not that dumb to send girls money because they say they want to quit the bar. She had gonorrhea. It made me laugh when she tried to lie her way out of it. I had always told her I didn't care who she slept with. She said: "I caught it from a toilet seat." This was her story even as the female STD doctor and I were explaining that was impossible. A couple hours later she said: "I only did it one time! Because I lost my wallet and didn't have money to get home! And he gave me 15000 pesos! And he told me that my boyfriend wasn't a good boyfriend because he let me work in a bar! " haha. She's so cute.

That lie and another I discovered the next week gave me a good excuse to become a guilt free butterfly and break up with her. She's really sweet and cool, if things were different I'd want to marry her.

Reading the forum.

If you're a newbie. It seems like reading the forum could be fun. But really, all you have to do is show up, don't bring home a greedy street girl who is going to cry about how you took advantage of her to her crooked police accomplices, and dive into a wonderful ocean of pussy on fields and beyond. Its not very complicated here.

To each his own.

I went to Medellin in Colombia in November for the first time. After hearing about how the Colombian women were so hot, the sexiest girls in Latin america, I was very disappointed. For me, if I was walking down a crowded street and saw a seven in looks, I was perked up. Because most of the girls just didn't seem very hot at all.

But lots of guys swear by the paisanos.

And now that I'm in the Philippines, I notice something: I'm thinking girls are incredibly hot, who actually aren't super pretty. If I look carefully at their faces to judge, their faces might be a six, and I'm still trying to get my tongue off the ground and loosen my pants to give my hard on more room after I look at them. And sometimes their faces seem kind of odd, in a way that my Filipino American women friends don't seem to be.

So I guess its just: personal preference. I intensely want to fuck about 64 percent of the girls I see here, they make me hard, I love their little bodies and their personalities with shyness and humor and warmth and ability to fall in love. And their little bodies.

So: find the place where your dick gets hard, and dive in.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1672976]On a different topic, tlaking about low BF I spoke to one of my regular AC gfs and talked to her about the option of working as a freelancer at HiSo. Just asking if she ever considered that. She was totally shocked by that kind of work, she liked the structure of the bar scene. I think that there is also a bit of risk assessment by the mamasan which the BF includes and the girls enjoy, so working the bars is less risky for the girls although they get less of a cut. The HiSo working girls (not all girls there are 'working' migt get more money on a nightly basis but maybe don't get picked up every week or get a cut of lady drinks.[/QUOTE]There are not really A lot of "True" FL's in Angeles. Those in HiSo are mainly girls with support / sponsors trying to make a little extra. And "Off duty" Bar girls. Very few truly FL's solely.

You have to consider. These girls come to AC dead broke, from the poorest provinces, most never finished High school. The bars provide "Stay Inn", so they immediately have a place to stay, the other girls to assist with other needs, mamasans provide loans. Everything is taken care for them. They have a place to stay, get a salary and LD commissions. The need to BF is not essential. In today's environment especially. They BF only if / when the girl wants to.

This is the reason there are very few actual FL'ers. Most cannot afford the deposit and 1st month rent needed, nor knowledge / capable of budgeting money. They don't have bank accounts.

The FL scene in AC amounts to basically three types.

1) Sponsored girls who are setup (Apt paid w / allowance) by a foreigner. And while he's back in his country. They BF for extra money.

2) Off duty Bar girls who go to like HiSo or SkyTrax and FL when "Off duty" . Plan be when they don't get a BF in the bar.

3) Your "True" FL's. Most (of course not all) of these are girls for whatever reason cannot work in bar. Be it drugs, fighting, can't get a license, failed Hygiene. A lot have pimps. These are usually the ones that run scams, they are most vulnerable, with no salary like Bar girls.

It ain't easy being a "True" Fler in AC.

[QUOTE=VicVeg;1672865]They are massage ++. Pick the cutest one and take her back. Behave during the massage, and then on the flip, she will give it a grip, and you can ask for more. It is hit or miss with the BBBJ or covered BJ or just the HJ. But few will go full service. But if they are cute, getting their shirt off, and getting a HJ can be alot of fun. It is hard to find such cute girls that are working the clubs and bar fining.[/QUOTE]I had my first experience hiring a uniformed massage girl from the end of Walking St last night. It was great.

It was about 8 PM on a Friday night and there was not a great selection. I approached the cutest one and she was quite eager. She carried her little tool kit and we walked to the hotel.

She required I showered well and then she began with an excellent back massage. She was quite the conversationalist and about 10 minutes into the massage she was referencing a Korean word like "gyopsum" or something. I kept asking her what that was and she finally stated "balls massage". I explained to her that my regular GF was coming by in 2 hours and I was not interested in a happy ending (although she was prettier than the GF). Dilemma dilemma. We finally agreed on a yea for gyopsum but w / o happy ending. She clearly explained she was a cherry girl, she doesn't take off her panties however a BBBJ was in the realm of possibilities. Dilemma dilemma.

Long story short, she then did 90 minutes of a slow delicate gyopsum / prostate oil massage with one break to eat some food I ordered for her from the hotel. She took her blouse off but kept her bra on. Just in the nick of time the GF shows up. The GF had no problem with the uniformed massage girl in the room and I was intensely eager to jump the GF. It was a total win-win.

BTW this massage girl asked 300 peso / hour. With two hours of her time and a "plus" (not "plus plus") she was grateful for the 1100 pesos I gave her. Thumbs up on the massage girls and thank you guys for the intel.