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[QUOTE=Lefeu;2105439]What criteria do they use to rank these girls?[/QUOTE]Every time I've asked the girls about this they say that they decide it themselves, in consultation with the management. So the papa-san might say, "How about B3000 for you?" and the girl can either accept it or ask to be put in a higher (or maybe even lower) price category. Some of the keenest ones are in the lowest categories because they know they'll get more business there.
Hey,
Anyone who can share some recent info on EZ massage?
/ Kirsia.
[QUOTE=Betong;2105661]Every time I've asked the girls about this they say that they decide it themselves, in consultation with the management. So the papa-san might say, "How about B3000 for you?" and the girl can either accept it or ask to be put in a higher (or maybe even lower) price category. Some of the keenest ones are in the lowest categories because they know they'll get more business there.[/QUOTE]Interesting! Thanks for the intel.
Hi all,
I've got my first trip to Bangkok coming up next week. And up until now, my plan has been to hit up soapies & gogos in the same day.
Essentially soapies 1st & then gogos afterwards. Needless to say, targeting prime hours.
But after having read through this thread and other sites. There seems to be mixed opinions on "prime" hours for soapies.
-Everyone seems to think before 5 pm is too early with few girls to choose from.
-Some say 6-7 pm is best time to go? Supposedly the time most first arrive & thus you're more likely to be their 1st customer of the day.
-Some say 7 pm is too early with not enough girls to choose from?
Planning to visit: Emmanuelle, Ocean / Colonze2, The Lord, Utopia, maybe Poseidon (Open to suggestions!
Would really appreciate any feedback from all you soapy connoisseurs!
[QUOTE=Phazze93;2106288]Hi all,
I've got my first trip to Bangkok coming up next week. And up until now, my plan has been to hit up soapies & gogos in the same day.
Essentially soapies 1st & then gogos afterwards. Needless to say, targeting prime hours.
But after having read through this thread and other sites. There seems to be mixed opinions on "prime" hours for soapies.
-Everyone seems to think before 5 pm is too early with few girls to choose from.
-Some say 6-7 pm is best time to go? Supposedly the time most first arrive & thus you're more likely to be their 1st customer of the day.
-Some say 7 pm is too early with not enough girls to choose from?
Planning to visit: Emmanuelle, Ocean / Colonze2, The Lord, Utopia, maybe Poseidon (Open to suggestions!
Would really appreciate any feedback from all you soapy connoisseurs![/QUOTE]Start at 4:30 pm and walk in and out of them all until you find one who really physically turns you on (and also has some receptive body language, meaning she isn't completely ignoring you in favor of japanese / koreans customers only). This is what I do and I live here and it never lets me down. The only mistake I make is getting lazy and not walking out to check out other soapies. You can always walk back in later too. Browse / shop around a lot, make the most of your nut.
[QUOTE=Kirsia123;2106039]Hey,
Anyone who can share some recent info on EZ massage?
/ Kirsia.[/QUOTE]It's a dump. When I asked all the girls about CIM during the lineup, nobody agreed to do CIM.
[QUOTE=ParkVille;2106374]Start at 4:30 pm and walk in and out of them all until you find one who really physically turns you on (and also has some receptive body language, meaning she isn't completely ignoring you in favor of japanese / koreans customers only). This is what I do and I live here and it never lets me down. The only mistake I make is getting lazy and not walking out to check out other soapies. You can always walk back in later too. Browse / shop around a lot, make the most of your nut.[/QUOTE]Wow 4:30 pm! That is very encouraging news most definitely won't be rushing / settling.
Also, to be gladly honest, in regards to the p4 p scene. I don't think I'll face much rejection due to my ethnicity as I am a relatively good looking 26 y / o chinese / taiwanese american in decent shape.
Fingers crossed though... Cheers!
[QUOTE=Phazze93;2106599]Wow 4:30 pm! That is very encouraging news most definitely won't be rushing / settling.
Also, to be gladly honest, in regards to the p4 p scene. I don't think I'll face much rejection due to my ethnicity as I am a relatively good looking 26 y / o chinese / taiwanese american in decent shape.
Fingers crossed though... Cheers![/QUOTE]Refreshing to see young mongers from the US. So many of the younger western dudes I meet here through the music scene are completely under the spell of hardcore western feminists. They call me a neanderthal.
Trying to kill a few hours before my flight left and I read that Alane was a good place to go. Got there during lunch crush so not many girls (and I use that term generously) so choose the least offensive one， Lord knows I have had some amazing sex with less than attractive ladies. Lady was pleasant and friendly enough and washed my privates and butt very clean but no hint of kissing or BBBJ. Massage was OK, but then again I am not a good judge of that.
She proceeded to lie on top of me and gave me a body rub while I heard the other girl come in (I had ordered the special 2 girl fashion massage), and she quickly showered. They flipped me over and the first girl fed me her breasts while the other started to give an oily handjob. Soon the first girl mounted my face and I was eating her pussy, at this time I noticed that the second girl had me in her mouth up to my balls, first BBBJ I have had this whole trip. I couldn't manage to blow in her mouth and she went back to the hand. First girl seemed to really be getting into into it and literally face fucked me until I screamed to high heaven and blew a huge load out onto the second girls oily hands.
After the shower we all giggled and I was spent but obviously not too happy to not get sex. But damage was only 1600, so not bad for a handjob only 3 p, but next time I will pay more for the lesbian option on Outcall.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2106628]Refreshing to see young mongers from the US. So many of the younger western dudes I meet here through the music scene are completely under the spell of hardcore western feminists. They call me a neanderthal.[/QUOTE]Frankly it didn't take me long to get to this state of mind.
Vast majority of western / westernized girls make me sick.
Stupid, entitled, princesses that have sky high standards / expectations of men. With jacket shit to offer in return.
"he has to be tall, handsome, rich, FUNNY, smart & oh he has to have a huge cock".
So rather than wasting my time & money listening to BS for hours only to have mediocre sex w / the risk of post-sex expectations. Well you guys can guess the rest LOL.
The only thing I'm truly worried about is. Well ill be honest. I don't think I last long enough for a 1 pop, 90 min session sadly (maybe under 5 min of pure thrusting? Especially when I'm excited. And I know I will be haha).
And from what I've read. Most if not all soapies are standard 1 pop & there isn't exactly a set price when paying / tipping a girl for a 2nd pop.
Would any experienced members have any tips on negotiating a friendly 2nd pop price / fee? Needless to say, a girl liking me would be a big factor.
[QUOTE=Phazze93;2106883]Frankly it didn't take me long to get to this state of mind.
Vast majority of western / westernized girls make me sick.
Stupid, entitled, princesses that have sky high standards / expectations of men. With jacket shit to offer in return.
"he has to be tall, handsome, rich, FUNNY, smart & oh he has to have a huge cock".
So rather than wasting my time & money listening to BS for hours only to have mediocre sex w / the risk of post-sex expectations. Well you guys can guess the rest LOL.
The only thing I'm truly worried about is. Well ill be honest. I don't think I last long enough for a 1 pop, 90 min session sadly (maybe under 5 min of pure thrusting? Especially when I'm excited. And I know I will be haha).
And from what I've read. Most if not all soapies are standard 1 pop & there isn't exactly a set price when paying / tipping a girl for a 2nd pop.
Would any experienced members have any tips on negotiating a friendly 2nd pop price / fee? Needless to say, a girl liking me would be a big factor.[/QUOTE]If more dudes had your attitude the West would be a lot better place for men. That being said, expectations among "regular" Thai gals are getting as bad as their counterparts in the West, well, minus the want of a big pecker.
You'll have a good time here. Rub one out before you hit the soapies if you are worried about lasting. Sure you can negotiate second pop.
[QUOTE=Phazze93;2106883]Frankly it didn't take me long to get to this state of mind.
Vast majority of western / westernized girls make me sick.
Stupid, entitled, princesses that have sky high standards / expectations of men. With jacket shit to offer in return.
"he has to be tall, handsome, rich, FUNNY, smart & oh he has to have a huge cock".
So rather than wasting my time & money listening to BS for hours only to have mediocre sex w / the risk of post-sex expectations. Well you guys can guess the rest LOL.
The only thing I'm truly worried about is. Well ill be honest. I don't think I last long enough for a 1 pop, 90 min session sadly (maybe under 5 min of pure thrusting? Especially when I'm excited. And I know I will be haha).
And from what I've read. Most if not all soapies are standard 1 pop & there isn't exactly a set price when paying / tipping a girl for a 2nd pop.
Would any experienced members have any tips on negotiating a friendly 2nd pop price / fee? Needless to say, a girl liking me would be a big factor.[/QUOTE]Not an experienced monger here but based on our experience last week, when I enquired the papasan at 2 places we were told to negotiate with the girls directly. We were offered second pop for an extra 1000 B by the girls. My friend could muster the energy to do it and gave fantastic reviews of the girl. After one I was so spent that I didn't bother. However I had a great time as well.
I will be writing detailed reviews later since I just got back to Home base.
[QUOTE=Phazze93;2106883]Frankly it didn't take me long to get to this state of mind.
Vast majority of western / westernized girls make me sick....[/QUOTE]I think it's important to remember that some of the best porn-stars are western women. And some western women, who do it for money, can be just as good at it as Thai P4P ladies are.
Western women aren't allowed to do it for money, except in porn. And that's why there are a lot fewer women like that in the West, than there are in Thailand.
I think many western women have the potential to be just as good with guys as Thai women are. It's just that western women don't have the freedom to do it, and that's why they don't do it.
This restriction on women's freedom to do it with guys in any way they want is probably a side-effect of democracy, where the majority rules. P4P women are always a minority in any society. And this means that the majority usually runs roughshod over their rights and freedoms.
Democracy is supposed to be the rule of the majority with respect for the rights of minorities. But quite often it's just a dictatorship of the majority, without any respect for minorities. That's why slavery, civil rights violations of blacks, and genocide of American Indians was possible in a democratic USA. And this isn't just USA. Even ancient Greek Democracy had plenty of slaves too.
I've also stopped trying to make friends with western women. But I don't blame western women for the way they are. This is bigger than individuals. It's about the way western societies are organized in terms of their politics and power-sharing, or lack of it.
Took My back to the hotel tonight. Only two holes are open but she does multiple positions, CIM, Rimming and DATY very well.
Her English is ok and she is fun to be around I may repeat.
/ Kirsia.
I will be back to Bangkok in few weeks, few months back when I visited Club 102 for the first time, I picked this chick named Nana and I had a good time, I actually returned 2 days later and took her again. But during my last three visits, she was not working there, they said she was on vacation and they seem pissed off when I ask for her on phone.
But I did go to Addict and had a good time there too, but there was something about Nana, may be her playful nature I enjoyed.
Did anyone take take her for a session? Apart from her, I didn't really find anyone interesting.