Angeles City

[QUOTE=RumBuddy;1674105]Maybe so, but if it were easy to find I would not have asked.

I'm guessing I should be able to find a ATM fairly easy, I will find one or go to a bank I guess. I have my CSwab Account card, so I should be fine.Thanks for your assistance.[/QUOTE]I was born and raised in NYC and traveled many places. Nothing too hard to figure out in this Internet Age. I just wanted some mongers experience and advice.

[URL]http://www.swisschaletph.com/philippines/luzon/angeles_city/balibago/shopping_malls_banks_atm.htm[/URL]

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1674035] are there are clusters of bars or is it a case of getting on a trike?

2. What time do Perimeter bars open? I have read they are good options to visit during the afternoon. If yes, what is the best time to visit these bars?

3. What are the bar-fine prices? This might sound a beginners question but any reports I have read about Perimeter Road don't specify costs.

I will post another lengthy diary of my visit.[/QUOTE]Perimeter bars are in clusters of 2 to 3 small bars. You will need a trike to go from each cluster. The bars usually open about Noon to 1 pm and most close about 11 pm to Midnight.

Best time is early Afternoon to evening, after that pickings are slims. The earlier you get there the better. The perimeter bars have a big expat following due to the cheaper prices, so they tend to grab the best girls early, since they know the girls. If you wait til evening most of the decent ones are gone.

The perimeter BF is about 1800 . A lot of perimeter girls only do ST. Since they have a steady stream of expat customers (most of which are married and don't do LT). Some perimeter girls make very good money being able to do up to 3 or 4ST in a day, depending on her popularity.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1674035]I have been to Angeles several times, most recently 2012. I will be returning shortly but have some questions to ask about Perimeter Road. On my previous visits I have always concentrated my efforts on Fields Avenue. The only Perimeter Road bar I visited was Pony Tails which hugely impressed me (in fact I met my 'girl of the trip' there).

So, a few questions regarding Perimeter Road:

1. Quite a few Perimeter Road bar names have been mentioned over the past 100 pages but which are the must-visits? I'm happy to visit lots of bars and report back my findings on these pages. I know that the bars are further spread apart than Fields Avenue so is there a logical bar-crawl? I. e are there are clusters of bars or is it a case of getting on a trike?

2. What time do Perimeter bars open? I have read they are good options to visit during the afternoon. If yes, what is the best time to visit these bars?

3. What are the bar-fine prices? This might sound a beginners question but any reports I have read about Perimeter Road don't specify costs.

I will post another lengthy diary of my visit.[/QUOTE]Sir Lancelot,

Perimeter bars are indeed spread apart, I would suggest to take a trike from bar cluster to bar cluster. My suggestion: Take a trike to Carlton Hotel and work your way back to Fields from there. At the Clarkton you have Mirrors, Lost In Asia and After School (I only mention the bars that seem more popular with the regulars, I never make it to Perimeter more than one or two times each trip, so my experience is limited). After Tune Hotel there are Honey Ko and Thi-Hi (maybe changed name, not sure). Before the corner of Malabanias Road there are Candy Bar. Det 5 - Bare Assets. XXX and Night Moves. After passing the Lewis Grand and the Eurasia Hotel you'll find another great cluster of bars: Emotion. Touch of Class. Dr. Holmes. Gentlemen's (upstairs) and around the corner Eruptions. I also liked the cluster of bars around Camelot and Brown Sugar, located between Margarita Station and Skytrax, but I think technically that's not Perimeter Road anymore.

BF will be around 1500, with some bars asking for 1600,1800 or even 2000.

Most of the bars will open around 1 or 2 pm. I would advice to go early, as lookers are rare and many customers will BF early to spend time with their girl at the hotel pool etc. Etc. I usually don't follow my own advice, so I hardly ever took a girl from Perimeter, because by the time I get there, all decent looking girls are gone already, LOL.

[QUOTE=RumBuddy;1674161]I was born and raised in NYC and traveled many places. Nothing too hard to figure out in this Internet Age. I just wanted some mongers experience and advice.

[URL]http://www.swisschaletph.com/philippines/luzon/angeles_city/balibago/shopping_malls_banks_atm.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]For what ever it is worth. I don't use ATM's.

1. I bring crisp new US $100.00 bills.

2. I have set up acccounts in advance with Western Union and Remitly to wire money to myself or others if I need more. Easily pick up peso cash at WU or Cebuana within minutes.

3. I bring one credit card and one debit card for purchases.

4. I have an account set up in advance with [URL]Aryty.com[/URL] to reload my cell phone if I am too lazy to go out and buy the load.

Other than that I really don't have any other cash needs.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1674217]For what ever it is worth. I don't use ATM's.

1. I bring crisp new US $100.00 bills.

2. I have set up acccounts in advance with Western Union and Remitly to wire money to myself or others if I need more. Easily pick up peso cash at WU or Cebuana within minutes.

3. I bring one credit card and one debit card for purchases.

4. I have an account set up in advance with [URL]Aryty.com[/URL] to reload my cell phone if I am too lazy to go out and buy the load.

Other than that I really don't have any other cash needs.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply. I will tell you what happened to me last year. I would sometimes send money to pinyas. $20, $25 through Western union. One night last year, I was watching the NBA finals and I got an email that I changed my western Union password. I checked and about 10 charges were made against my credit card in the Phils. Only 3 or 4 went through, they were to the ladies I sent to previously. I made no transactions for a while and none since then... however, WU, wouldn't do anything. They claimed I just had my identity compromised. Western union did nothing even though there is a 2nd level password to verify the transfer. About $200 was picked up in the Phils. Thankfully, my credit card gave me the money back. Since then, I don't use WU. Just sayn.... I do plan to bring US bills just the same. I will also use the ATM to get cash as I have done in China before. Like you, I will also have credit card and a debit card. Look out little pussies/

[QUOTE=RumBuddy;1674105]I will find one or go to a bank I guess.[/QUOTE]Note that to withdraw cash on a credit card from most banks you will need 2 pieces of ID which if you're just a tourist will be quite difficult! I attempted this on my last trip to try and avoid the 200 PHP ATM withdrawal fee but with just my passport it was no dice.

I could probably have found a bank willing to do it if I dicked around long enough but wasn't worth the hassle in the end.

[QUOTE=DarkVader;1674223]Note that to withdraw cash on a credit card from most banks you will need 2 pieces of ID which if you're just a tourist will be quite difficult! I attempted this on my last trip to try and avoid the 200 PHP ATM withdrawal fee but with just my passport it was no dice.

I could probably have found a bank willing to do it if I dicked around long enough but wasn't worth the hassle in the end.[/QUOTE]Thanks the info. I will only use a credit card for a purchase and a debt card for a withdrawal. I should have some US $$. Also, I will take 2 id's just in case even though I may not need it

I will spend about 10 days with a good girl somewhere else in Phils,. But I will spend 4 days with the wild and crazy girls in AC. Some guilt, but if this goes forward it will be the last of wild and crazy, which I never did. I wanted to go to Bangkok but AC will do.

Part 2 of my report after the layover in Singapore (See the Singapore Forum for report).

Hotel:

Stayed at Angeles Beach Club Hotel. The first two nights in the Jacuzzi room, and then I upgraded to the New Millenium Junior Suite for two nights as the Jacuzzi room was not available for the entire duration of my stay. The Hotel is very pricey, especially by PH standards, but the service is excellent, rooms are nice and the convenience of the free car service makes it worth it for me. The girls also seem to like it which is a nice bonus.

Day 1:

Arrived at Clark Airport with Cebu Pacific after a short stop in Cebu and was picked up by the driver from ABC. When I arrived the room wasn't ready so I got my drink voucher and headed to their restaurant for a beer. Shortly after finishing my beer they came over to inform me that the room was ready and I moved in.

Started with catching up on Social Media (Tagged, Skout, DIA, etc) but not really anything urgent of interest, so took a nap and headed down to Walking Street. Driver dropped me off in the top end, and I started walking down just looking at the life and had some laughs joking with the girls trying to pull you in on the way.

When I reached the end I sat down and had a beer at Paradise Beer Garden, the only place I could see that didn't have any aggressive girls trying to pull you in an harass you for ladies drinks. It was like an Oasis of Calm amongst the Chaos of Fields Avenue. This quickly came to be one of my favorite spots in the City, especially during the early afternoon before the lady bars open.

I then started off with the closest bar, the plan being to take a beer in each and check out the talents, however with the amount of bars and girls this didn't seem like a good approach as it was very late when I was though with all of them, and by that time I had forgotten which girls was at which bar so I was almost back to square one. Started heading back down the street to look for a girl I found interesting, but got pulled into The Grand Pharao on the way by a cute and fairly pretty dark-skinned girl. Ended up buying her a LD and talking for a while, but at this time it was close to 2 AM and she insisted she had to be back at bar at 4 AM, so no deal. She offered to find me another girl, but once my mind is fixed on something there is no changing it, so I just went home alone and agreed to BF her the next day instead.

Grand Pharao had a huge collection of girls, and many of them were quite good looking, however I found them very pushy for LDs, and often bringing 4-5 girls over and trying to get you to buy drinks for all of them, which I didn't quite like as I always feel so bad when saying no.

Day 2:

Started the day at Paradise Beer Garden, then decided to try massage as I had never done it. Ended up a bit away from walking street as I figured the chance of a legit massage being higher. Don't remember the name of the place, but the massage was OK, but not great.

Headed back to the hotel for a shower before meeting the girl from the day before at Grand Pharao. Like most Filipinas she was late, and didn't really seem to expect me to show up. I guess I can't really blame her as its easy for a guy to get distracted with all the pretty ladies around. Stayed for a while just drinking and talking. This was right after the Typhoon Ruby so she was concerned about her family back in Leyte as she had not heard from them yet. Due to being fresh in the country and not knowing the system and currency rates I ended up paying the barfine twice as I didn't realize it was already added to the drinks tab, so it ended up being an expensive 10 000 PHP girl (2 x 3000 php barfines, drinks both days, food, 500 php tip). Didn't really care that much as the performance later on almost made it worth it, and compared to Singapore it was still cheap.

After barfining we headed over to High Society, but as it was still early there wasn't much action going on. I didn't feel like being the only couple on the dance floor considering how horrible my dancing is and the fact that I am quite shy, so we just headed over to my hotel. Started with a jacuzzi bath that I actually had to talk her into quite a bit. Lots of kissing and touching in the tub, and gave her a pretty decent neck and head massage which she seemed to appreciate, although complaining about getting tired. After the massage we headed over to bed for a decent BBJ, followed by excellent CFS in different positions. Definitively not a starfish like many of the girls, and it really makes a difference so I was very happy with the performance. When I started getting tired I put her back in missionary and blew my load in her with condom on. Quick shower, and then some more kissing and cuddling before getting something to eat and her leaving a little before 4 AM.

Day 3:

Had set up a "date" with a semi-pro single mom from one of the dating sites as I wanted to try it out before I left, so I spent most of the day just sleeping and hanging around in the hotel. As usual with PH girls she ended up being 45 minutes late and when she arrived she was very shy. Claimed this was the 3rd time she was doing this sort of thing. No idea if its true or not, but she was fairly average looking so it very well may be as there probably aren't that much of a market for her in Angeles.

Headed over to SM to watch a movie in the Cinema as I felt like having a "normal" date for a change and she soon started to warm up a bit, holding hands, letting me stroke her hair and whatever else was decent in public. In the Cinema she insisted on feeding me popcorn, so I wouldn't get cheese powder on my hands. Was a bit weird, but also somewhat sweet. Back at the Hotel we ate pizza before heading to the room.

Body was OK, but showing lots of signs of having a kid, including stretch marks and scars which I find a bit of a turnoff. Started out with a bath in the large hot tub, with some kissing and touching, before heading over the shower where she gave me a very thorough wash. Then onto bed, starting with kissing, then me fingering her for a while. Considered DATY, but couldn't quite get myself to it this being Sin City, even if she seemed innocent and shy. For a non-pro she gave a very decent BBBJ with lots of tongue action and not neglecting the shaft and balls. Then over to CFS in different positions before blowing my load in her with condom on, quick shower and then some more snuggling and kissing before going to sleep. Sent her home around 9 am as she had to get back home to her kid before her babysitter left. All in all I'd say A for effort, and great GFE, although maybe lacking in other aspects.

Had agreed on 2000 PHP which was probably already overpaying, but ended up giving her 3000 because she probably needed it more than me.

Day 4:

Spent most of the afternoon sleeping before heading down to Walking Street. Started with a Beer and lasagna at Paradise Beer Garden then checking out the girlie bars. Ended up at Club Asia with a really sweet and cute girl from Leyte. I'm a sucker for cute and sweet so she was perfect for me in most aspects, had some drinks and talking before paying the 3000 PHP barfine and taking her back to the hotel. On the way up walking street we ran into the girl from Grand Pharao, which I found a bit awkward, but we just smiled, said Hi, and continued our way.

Back in the hotel we talked for a bit more, and the girl was very open about her life and family, to the point it was almost a bit too much. Of course it could have been all lies and stories as you never know with these girls, but she was telling how it was her first day on the job after having an abortion, about how she lied to her family and telling them she worked to jobs in Manila to explain the amount of cash she sent home, about how she got pregnant at 16 back in her province and how the guy ran off (usual story), and about how she was waiting for a husband to come and save her from her life. The only thing she refused to tell was how she had ended up in AC. Then she started showing pictures on her cellphone from the bar, from back home, and of her kids. I don't know if it was all part of her plan, but the more I got to know her, the more I started almost falling in love. It was weird, but I doubt I'm the first guy it has happened to, good thing it was my last day in Angeles so I didn't have time to do anything stupid, although I was tempted to delay the exit because of this girl alone.

Anyway, after getting done with the talking and picture showing, we headed to the bath tub for some kissing and touching, before giving her the usual head and neck massage that I like doing to the girls. Then a decent BBBJ and CFS in different positions before blowing my load in her with condom on, quick shower before cuddling up and she fell asleep with her head on my chest within a few minutes. The next morning we had breakfast together where I slipped her an extra 500 PHP tip and then I had to check out and head to the airport. Another excellent GFE with a really sweet girl. I regret not getting her contact details so we could stay in touch, but it probably saved me a lot of trouble and heartache as she didn't exactly seem like the poster child for good decisions.

Check out the Cebu forum in a couple of days for my last report. Originally I wasn't planning on doing any mongering there, but once you start its hard to stop.

[QUOTE=RumBuddy;1673957]What is the best way to get money in AC?[/QUOTE]You left yourself open to the zingers as the question was so lazy.

Best way depends on what level of risk you have of carrying around cash, versus tolerance of paying ATM fees and losing % in ATM fees or bad exchange rates.

1) If you arrive with a load of $100 bills in a moneybelt and are able to change it as you go in money changers with good rates that is the best way maximize the value of the dollars euros etc. There is a definite risk walking around with your vacation budget on your person, in hotel safes or with hotel safe deposits so that depends on your comfort level. I often fund the bulk of my trip this way in terms of cash purchases. Maybe I have been lulled into a false sense of security. But it worked for me.

2) Unless you have a special bank account with your home country bank that covers foreign ATM fees like the Makati high roller posters, sucking money out of your account through a Phils bank can get very expensive. First you have to find an ATM which accepts your bank network. They often have a low per transaction max like 5000 php per withdraw then charge a fee of 250 to 300 php then your bank will hit you with a fee so you can lose up to 10%. In AC as with much of the Phils, only 50% of all ATM's are even functional at any given time so factor in your trike fees as well and time wasted. There are no bank ATM's in fields. The fields third party ATMS (if any work) would hammer you. You need to go to Macarthur to get a proper bank.

3) Credit card bank advances? I can't comment on that but I shudder to think, that must be like something out of Deliverance in the Ned Beatty role.

4) If your gal somewhere else in the Phils isn't in AC or Manila. Make sure you exchange all your currency into pesos before visiting her. Exchange rates in the provinces are worse, ATMs are more scarce and more often offline.

Years ago I opened an Equitable PCI account peso and dollar accounts which then turned into BDO accounts later when they got bought out. Somehow that got grandfathered in where they don't charge me any fees even for low balance. I will always keep that account alive. A couple of years ago I had an overseas sale export of some merchandise and I was actually in a decent cash flow so I had him send it to my Phils account. Big enough but not too big to make a splash. Damn that year of mongering was simple and painless. Just withdrawing pesos with no fees. Wish that was the norm for me rather than the exception!

[QUOTE=RumBuddy;1674161]I was born and raised in NYC and traveled many places. Nothing too hard to figure out in this Internet Age. I just wanted some mongers experience and advice.

[URL]http://www.swisschaletph.com/philippines/luzon/angeles_city/balibago/shopping_malls_banks_atm.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]RB check on your link and question about "Making Money" LOL.

On Google map it list a BPI ATM right around the corner from Swiss Chalet in the Orchid Inn Complex. I can't physically confirm this as I'm planning to visit and never been.

Its nice to know that only BPI ATMs give out more than $100 per withdraw.

[QUOTE=Feroxis;1674237]Part 2 of my report after the layover in Singapore (See the Singapore Forum for report).

Hotel:

Stayed at Angeles Beach Club Hotel. The first two nights in the Jacuzzi room, and then I upgraded to the New Millenium Junior Suite for two nights as the Jacuzzi room was not available for the entire duration of my stay. The Hotel is very pricey, especially by PH standards, but the service is excellent, rooms are nice and the convenience of the free car service makes it worth it for me. The girls also seem to like it which is a nice bonus.

Day 1:

Arrived at Clark Airport with Cebu Pacific after a short stop in Cebu and was picked up by the driver from ABC. When I arrived the room wasn't ready so I got my drink voucher and headed to their restaurant for a beer. Shortly after finishing my beer they came over to inform me that the room was ready and I moved in.

Started with catching up on Social Media (Tagged, Skout, DIA, etc) but not really anything urgent of interest, so took a nap and headed down to Walking Street. Driver dropped me off in the top end, and I started walking down just looking at the life and had some laughs joking with the girls trying to pull you in on the way.

When I reached the end I sat down and had a beer at Paradise Beer Garden, the only place I could see that didn't have any aggressive girls trying to pull you in an harass you for ladies drinks. It was like an Oasis of Calm amongst the Chaos of Fields Avenue. This quickly came to be one of my favorite spots in the City, especially during the early afternoon before the lady bars open.

I then started off with the closest bar, the plan being to take a beer in each and check out the talents, however with the amount of bars and girls this didn't seem like a good approach as it was very late when I was though with all of them, and by that time I had forgotten which girls was at which bar so I was almost back to square one. Started heading back down the street to look for a girl I found interesting, but got pulled into The Grand Pharao on the way by a cute and fairly pretty dark-skinned girl. Ended up buying her a LD and talking for a while, but at this time it was close to 2 AM and she insisted she had to be back at bar at 4 AM, so no deal. She offered to find me another girl, but once my mind is fixed on something there is no changing it, so I just went home alone and agreed to BF her the next day instead.

Grand Pharao had a huge collection of girls, and many of them were quite good looking, however I found them very pushy for LDs, and often bringing 4-5 girls over and trying to get you to buy drinks for all of them, which I didn't quite like as I always feel so bad when saying no.

Day 2:

Started the day at Paradise Beer Garden, then decided to try massage as I had never done it. Ended up a bit away from walking street as I figured the chance of a legit massage being higher. Don't remember the name of the place, but the massage was OK, but not great.

Headed back to the hotel for a shower before meeting the girl from the day before at Grand Pharao. Like most Filipinas she was late, and didn't really seem to expect me to show up. I guess I can't really blame her as its easy for a guy to get distracted with all the pretty ladies around. Stayed for a while just drinking and talking. This was right after the Typhoon Ruby so she was concerned about her family back in Leyte as she had not heard from them yet. Due to being fresh in the country and not knowing the system and currency rates I ended up paying the barfine twice as I didn't realize it was already added to the drinks tab, so it ended up being an expensive 10 000 PHP girl (2 x 3000 php barfines, drinks both days, food, 500 php tip). Didn't really care that much as the performance later on almost made it worth it, and compared to Singapore it was still cheap.

After barfining we headed over to High Society, but as it was still early there wasn't much action going on. I didn't feel like being the only couple on the dance floor considering how horrible my dancing is and the fact that I am quite shy, so we just headed over to my hotel. Started with a jacuzzi bath that I actually had to talk her into quite a bit. Lots of kissing and touching in the tub, and gave her a pretty decent neck and head massage which she seemed to appreciate, although complaining about getting tired. After the massage we headed over to bed for a decent BBJ, followed by excellent CFS in different positions. Definitively not a starfish like many of the girls, and it really makes a difference so I was very happy with the performance. When I started getting tired I put her back in missionary and blew my load in her with condom on. Quick shower, and then some more kissing and cuddling before getting something to eat and her leaving a little before 4 AM.

Day 3:

Had set up a "date" with a semi-pro single mom from one of the dating sites as I wanted to try it out before I left, so I spent most of the day just sleeping and hanging around in the hotel. As usual with PH girls she ended up being 45 minutes late and when she arrived she was very shy. Claimed this was the 3rd time she was doing this sort of thing. No idea if its true or not, but she was fairly average looking so it very well may be as there probably aren't that much of a market for her in Angeles.

Headed over to SM to watch a movie in the Cinema as I felt like having a "normal" date for a change and she soon started to warm up a bit, holding hands, letting me stroke her hair and whatever else was decent in public. In the Cinema she insisted on feeding me popcorn, so I wouldn't get cheese powder on my hands. Was a bit weird, but also somewhat sweet. Back at the Hotel we ate pizza before heading to the room.

Body was OK, but showing lots of signs of having a kid, including stretch marks and scars which I find a bit of a turnoff. Started out with a bath in the large hot tub, with some kissing and touching, before heading over the shower where she gave me a very thorough wash. Then onto bed, starting with kissing, then me fingering her for a while. Considered DATY, but couldn't quite get myself to it this being Sin City, even if she seemed innocent and shy. For a non-pro she gave a very decent BBBJ with lots of tongue action and not neglecting the shaft and balls. Then over to CFS in different positions before blowing my load in her with condom on, quick shower and then some more snuggling and kissing before going to sleep. Sent her home around 9 am as she had to get back home to her kid before her babysitter left. All in all I'd say A for effort, and great GFE, although maybe lacking in other aspects.

Had agreed on 2000 PHP which was probably already overpaying, but ended up giving her 3000 because she probably needed it more than me.

Day 4:

Spent most of the afternoon sleeping before heading down to Walking Street. Started with a Beer and lasagna at Paradise Beer Garden then checking out the girlie bars. Ended up at Club Asia with a really sweet and cute girl from Leyte. I'm a sucker for cute and sweet so she was perfect for me in most aspects, had some drinks and talking before paying the 3000 PHP barfine and taking her back to the hotel. On the way up walking street we ran into the girl from Grand Pharao, which I found a bit awkward, but we just smiled, said Hi, and continued our way.

Back in the hotel we talked for a bit more, and the girl was very open about her life and family, to the point it was almost a bit too much. Of course it could have been all lies and stories as you never know with these girls, but she was telling how it was her first day on the job after having an abortion, about how she lied to her family and telling them she worked to jobs in Manila to explain the amount of cash she sent home, about how she got pregnant at 16 back in her province and how the guy ran off (usual story), and about how she was waiting for a husband to come and save her from her life. The only thing she refused to tell was how she had ended up in AC. Then she started showing pictures on her cellphone from the bar, from back home, and of her kids. I don't know if it was all part of her plan, but the more I got to know her, the more I started almost falling in love. It was weird, but I doubt I'm the first guy it has happened to, good thing it was my last day in Angeles so I didn't have time to do anything stupid, although I was tempted to delay the exit because of this girl alone.

Anyway, after getting done with the talking and picture showing, we headed to the bath tub for some kissing and touching, before giving her the usual head and neck massage that I like doing to the girls. Then a decent BBBJ and CFS in different positions before blowing my load in her with condom on, quick shower before cuddling up and she fell asleep with her head on my chest within a few minutes. The next morning we had breakfast together where I slipped her an extra 500 PHP tip and then I had to check out and head to the airport. Another excellent GFE with a really sweet girl. I regret not getting her contact details so we could stay in touch, but it probably saved me a lot of trouble and heartache as she didn't exactly seem like the poster child for good decisions.

Check out the Cebu forum in a couple of days for my last report. Originally I wasn't planning on doing any mongering there, but once you start its hard to stop.[/QUOTE]Nice report!

[QUOTE=AliasDonkey;1674274]

On Google map it list a BPI ATM right around the corner from Swiss Chalet in the Orchid Inn Complex. I can't physically confirm this as I'm planning to visit and never been.

[/QUOTE]I can confirm this is a reliable and well-stocked ATM. If you withdraw 10,000 Peso, you'll get nine 1000's and two 500's.

[QUOTE=RumBuddy;1674373]Nice report![/QUOTE]Not really a nice report.

First, if you barfine a girl you should at least cum twice! If I barfine a girl for 3000 I am cumming thrice at least. You should try to average 500-1000 pesos per time. Anything else is overpaying. Why is overpaying bad? Well, barfines have risen about 50% in Angeles in the last 5 years. People will charge what people will pay. So, guys thinking it doesn't matter she needs it more than me, will in fact raise the price overall. You want to be nice take her shopping or buy her a gift, cash equals a hike in price but 1000 pesos for overnight plus some groceries for her family won't allow her to ask the next guy for 1000 pesos and some groceries. But 3000 pesos, in her mind will equal I can get 3000 pesos from the next guy. Tipping has already become the norm in Manila and if that happens in Angeles I am sure many guys will stop coming, like myself! If there was a set 15% tip I could budget it but every girl has a different idea of what the tip should be. It puts a real negative connotation on the whole experience. To be honest, I rarely discuss price with the girls and then after give them 500 pesos and some little gifts if I make them cum or 1000 pesos and no gifts if I can't make them cum. If I cum 3 times and she cums twice then I give 2000 and some gifts. Most girls want to see me again and are very happy with this. I rarely have found starfish in the Philippines (other countries yes) so the fact you didn't have one is nothing to report here. ABC has a good buffet every night from 5:15 - 10 pm, other than that they are overpriced and do not have a great location. My hotel is equal to ABC and is only 2500 pesos a night or 10,000 pesos a week. Penthouse is only 3000+ a night with the best location and the most romantic 24 hour poolside roof dining in all of Angeles. The food is good and cheap and the staff is amazing. Also ATM's are a ripoff and 1 500 Euro note in your sock is equal to about 25,000 pesos. One in each sock is 50,000 pesos. Including hotel and food I usually only average spending about 5000 pesos a day. So, I hope this advice helps!

MM

[QUOTE=Waffles;1674562]I can confirm this is a reliable and well-stocked ATM.[/QUOTE]Well stocked or not, it's always a good idea to take out cash during biz hours on Friday and not wait until a Sunday afternoon for any ATM in the Phils. Most are not stocked, as you put it, very well and they often run out of cash by Sunday morning. The same hold true for holidays too, so always plan ahead and don't depend on ATM's having cash when you need it the most.