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Good point Paolo and that is exactly what I did after landing in BKK.
I went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and Kasalong around 10.45 to checkout.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s has about 8 girls, 6 of them sitting outside in full makeup wearing cute school girl outfits. Kasalong was closed and I was told by a lady outside presumably the mamasan to come back in half hour.
So I just walked back to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s next door and chose a girl.
I expected BJ bar girls to be old and not that good looking, however there were a few in their 20's and a few in their late 20's and may be one in her 30's. I chose a good looking girl and though her face was pretty I later realized her body had too much baby damage when she took off her clothes, and she asked for tip to see that body. Sheesh. In hindsight I should have just had the BJ.
For 700 B standard fee, what you get is a dirty couch and a wrap around privacy screen. It is very similar to some of the sleazy strip clubs in US where girls give a BJ right in the couch.
The girl was very very good at it and for those few minutes I did not mind the below average ambience. The BJ was very sloppy with lots of attention to the balls. I asked for rimming and she said again "you tip me na " . I have her a thumbs up and man oh man, it was bliss! It was the first time I was getting rimmed for such a long time and it was unbelievably good. It was so good that I asked her to jerk me off while rimming. Trust me guys, please try it rather than the plain old CIM.
Now comes the bummer. After I finished with her saliva all over my groin and butt and thighs, I needed a shower and all I got was a few wipes. I told her I really needed a shower and she took me to a bad setup with no towel and oh boy I just wanted to run outside naked if I could. Had to improvise a bit but somehow cleaned up.
Anyways, paid the 700 B fee, have her 200 B tips and left the place wondering whether I will come back or not. The service was top notch, getting rimmed by a pretty girl at 11 am is an awesome feeling. But the setup was not up to par.
Would love to hear from regulars here, any other BJ bar with better ambiance and shower facilities?
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2108350]Thanks, I didn't know that. But when I was referring to BJ bars I didn't mean to go there for a multiple shot. A member advised that he could masturbate before hitting a soapy, I was meaning that a better option would be to go and get a BJ in a BJ bar instead.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2108452]Good point Paolo and that is exactly what I did after landing in BKK.
I went to L0lita's and Kasalong around 10.45 to checkout.
L0lita's has about 8 girls, 6 of them sitting outside in full makeup wearing cute school girl outfits. Kasalong was closed and I was told by a lady outside presumably the mamasan to come back in half hour.
So I just walked back to L0lita's next door and chose a girl.
I expected BJ bar girls to be old and not that good looking, however there were a few in their 20's and a few in their late 20's and may be one in her 30's. I chose a good looking girl and though her face was pretty I later realized her body had too much baby damage when she took off her clothes, and she asked for tip to see that body. Sheesh. In hindsight I should have just had the BJ.
For 700 B standard fee, what you get is a dirty couch and a wrap around privacy screen. It is very similar to some of the sleazy strip clubs in US where girls give a BJ right in the couch.
The girl was very very good at it and for those few minutes I did not mind the below average ambience. The BJ was very sloppy with lots of attention to the balls. I asked for rimming and she said again "you tip me na " . I have her a thumbs up and man oh man, it was bliss! It was the first time I was getting rimmed for such a long time and it was unbelievably good. It was so good that I asked her to jerk me off while rimming. Trust me guys, please try it rather than the plain old CIM.
Now comes the bummer. After I finished with her saliva all over my groin and butt and thighs, I needed a shower and all I got was a few wipes. I told her I really needed a shower and she took me to a bad setup with no towel and oh boy I just wanted to run outside naked if I could. Had to improvise a bit but somehow cleaned up.
Anyways, paid the 700 B fee, have her 200 B tips and left the place wondering whether I will come back or not. The service was top notch, getting rimmed by a pretty girl at 11 am is an awesome feeling. But the setup was not up to par.
Would love to hear from regulars here, any other BJ bar with better ambiance and shower facilities?[/QUOTE]Your post being primarily a field report for your experience in a Bangkok BJ Bar after the opening statement referencing a post about having a quick one before going to a massage parlor, I suppose it should have been posted in the Bangkok Reports thread instead of here. But since it is here now, I will reply to it here. Is a BJ Bar considered a "Massage Parlor" on these forums? Not sure. But I didn't think so.
Anyway, the BJ Bar you chose, L0lita's (note the creative way I spelled it in order to get past the objectionable word/topic censor program on this site. I also had to change it in the quote of your post above as well in order to post this reply), probably has the most primitive and least comfortable and hygienic environment (IMO) of the better known BJ Bars in Bangkok. That curtain and bare bones booth in a communal room bit is so minimal and uncomfortable I am not sure I would ever go that route again. Other punters might prefer it. But when I go to L0lita's or any of the other BJ Bars now, I spend the extra 900-1000 baht and get one of their Short Time rooms, which is an actual room with a bed, a private bathroom with a shower, hot water, soap and a clean towel provided. And when you choose one of those ST rooms it is generally a given that you can spend more time with the girl, too, finishing with a FS instead of a BJ if you want. BTW, last time I used it, almost two years ago by now I think, even the ST room in L0lita's was possibly the grungiest among the better known BJ Bars in town.
As far as the small cubicles meant to only accommodate a BJ or, to be more specific, the small rooms without a bed or a private bathroom/shower where customers usually only opt for a BJ, I think you will find that most of the other better-known BJ Bars in Bangkok like Kasalong Bar, Som's Haven and Wood Bar (formerly Dr. BJ's Salon) have actual walled cubicles with actual doors that close and a wash basin in that cubicle or nearby. But that is not the case at L0lita's. Can't say each of those other places will have a fresh towel at the ready for a post-BJ cleanup at one of those wash basins, or hot water, or soap. So I suppose you might want to fold a few paper towels and stuff them in your pocket just in case.
An aside; lately I have touted the day shift at Kasalong Bar as having some of the best looking girls working at any BJ Bar around. But over the past 2-3 weeks, some of the better looking ones have gone missing. At least, lately I no longer see the best looking ones as I pass by the place during the daytime as I did previously. Don't know if they are on extended holiday, quit altogether or if it is a case where those better looking girls have been kept so busy they never have a chance to come back outside and take a seat before another customer is taking them back inside and upstairs. But I have not seen as many of those better looking girls working the day shift at Kasalong Bar as I did just a few weeks ago. Meanwhile, the line up in the day and night shift at L0lita's, yes, the place with the (IMO) grungiest and least comfortable set-up of any of the best known BJ Bars in town, has been showing a noticeable improvement in the looks department. That is, based solely on what I can see on the outside of their clothing as I pass by and not what I might see if they got naked.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2108344]Then you might as well take the one pop for 1400.[/QUOTE]For the time being, there is no 1400 THB for one hour FS in BJ bars. You probably refer to other sex acts in a BJ bar. Wood bar and Magic Table (right next to Wood bar) are 2000 THB for one hour FS in a private room. Som's Heaven, Lollipop1, Lolit's and Kasalong are 1700 THB for one hour FS in a private room.
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[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2108575]For the time being, there is no 1400 THB for one hour FS in BJ bars. You probably refer to other sex acts in a BJ bar. Wood bar and Magic Table (right next to Wood bar) are 2000 THB for one hour FS in a private room. Som's Heaven, Lollipop1, Lolit's and Kasalong are 1700 THB for one hour FS in a private room.[/QUOTE]FS is only 1,200 at Som's Haven. I just fucked a girl there yesterday. I don't waste my time going up to the private room. I miss buttfucking the deaf girl on the couch. Wonder where she is now? Memories.
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[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2108575]For the time being, there is no 1400 THB for one hour FS in BJ bars. You probably refer to other sex acts in a BJ bar. Wood bar and Magic Table (right next to Wood bar) are 2000 THB for one hour FS in a private room. Som's Heaven, Lollipop1, Lolit's and Kasalong are 1700 THB for one hour FS in a private room.[/QUOTE]1200-1400 for one pop at BJ bars. Not in the private room.
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[QUOTE=Ixgzca;2108620]FS is only 1,200 at Som's Haven. I just fucked a girl there yesterday. I don't waste my time going up to the private room. I miss buttfucking the deaf girl on the couch. Wonder where she is now? Memories.[/QUOTE]Brilliant. Ah, memories. So any talent there now?
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Kiwi at Cherry
Couldn't sleep in the afternoon despite very tired after an overnight flight. The excitement was too much to overcome.
So took a meter taxi to Phrom Phong BTS and started exploring the MPs. Visited almost all on my list, Addict and 102 had the best looking girls outside but did not show much interest.
Plus I wanted A+ Service and I had already shortlisted New and Kiwi at Cherrys. So headed there and the mamasan was very helpful. The lineup was okay, 7 girls and Kiwi was there but New wasn't. Kiwi looked better and younger in person than the pictures on their website, they don't do her justice. She is chunky, but has a very inviting demeanor, a great smile and offered A+ as well. Up to the room, took shower together and got nice BBBJ. She was quite playful and asked whether I wanted massage first or boom boom.
I couldn't take my eyes of her booty so told her I wanted to fuck her ass straightaway. Her butthole was loose which was a disappointment but there was a mirror right next to the bed and watching that pretty face and jiggling ass was a delight and I couldn't hold much longer.
Asked her to get a beer and enjoyed massage for about 15-20 minutes which was quite good actually.
Gave her a 200 tip and paid the 1900 fee and left the place a happy man. This was my only MP visit in BKK and a memorable one, thanks to the excellent service.
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Min at Kasalong
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2108536]An aside; lately I have touted the day shift at Kasalong Bar as having some of the best looking girls working at any BJ Bar around. But over the past 2-3 weeks, some of the better looking ones have gone missing. At least, lately I no longer see the best looking ones as I pass by the place during the daytime as I did previously. Don't know if they are on extended holiday, quit altogether or if it is a case where those better looking girls have been kept so busy they never have a chance to come back outside and take a seat before another customer is taking them back inside and upstairs. But I have not seen as many of those better looking girls working the day shift at Kasalong Bar as I did just a few weeks ago.[/QUOTE]I've been to Kasalong last week and picked up a cutie in full daytime named Min. Only downside was she wore braces, but given where her mouth was most of the time, I didn't get to see much of them. She was pretty skinny and wore nice lingerie underneath her uniform. I liked the couch setup, where she basically kneels next to me, as opposed to Dr. BJ's where she's in front trying to make eye contact. I felt the facilities at Kasalong were decent, certainly better than the L0 litta's description we just read. Damage was 800.
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[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2108729]I've been to Kasalong last week and picked up a cutie in full daytime named Min.[/QUOTE]Speaking of Kasalong, they have a new staff member. Nan, IMHO the best performer at Star of Light, has switched to Kasalong. Bit unfortunate, since I really liked her doing it out in the open at the bar, and Kasalong doesn't offer that option.
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2108948]Speaking of Kasalong, they have a new staff member. Nan, IMHO the best performer at Star of Light, has switched to Kasalong. Bit unfortunate, since I really liked her doing it out in the open at the bar, and Kasalong doesn't offer that option.[/QUOTE]As referenced recently with a L0 lita's provider, some of the BJ girls rim. Does Nan?
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2108693]Brilliant. Ah, memories. So any talent there now?[/QUOTE]The fat chick there at Som's Haven is a queen deepthroater. Horrible to look at though. I only pick her when I really need some throat. I don't know her name but she's the biggest and fattest one there. True deepthroaters are hard to find these days, even harder if you want the chick to be hot. There is no one there close to the level of service of the deaf girl from before. She was just completely submissive, gave great BJs and loved being assfucked.
There is a girl at Kasalong that I like as well. Her BJ is sub par but I pick her just because she is cute and I love watching her ass gape open when I rim her. Also, don't know her name.
Som at 7th Heaven gave me a surprisingly deep slurpjob before. Someone trained her well.
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[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2108979]As referenced recently with a L0 lita's provider, some of the BJ girls rim. Does Nan?[/QUOTE]Sooooo many girls rim at the BJ bars. I was rimmed nearly everytime I went to a BJ bar this month. There was only one girl at Som's Haven who did not rim me. She also won't let me rim her. Everyone else provided willingly. Didn't even ask. I've been to SOL, Lulitas, Som's and Kasalong this month.
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[QUOTE=Ixgzca;2108993]The fat chick there at Som's Haven is a queen deepthroater. Horrible to look at though. I only pick her when I really need some throat. I don't know her name but she's the biggest and fattest one there. True deepthroaters are hard to find these days, even harder if you want the chick to be hot. There is no one there close to the level of service of the deaf girl from before. She was just completely submissive, gave great BJs and loved being assfucked.
There is a girl at Kasalong that I like as well. Her BJ is sub par but I pick her just because she is cute and I love watching her ass gape open when I rim her. Also, don't know her name.
Som at 7th Heaven gave me a surprisingly deep slurpjob before. Someone trained her well.[/QUOTE]Headed upstairs the other day at Kasalong with who might have been Min, braces and dyed blonds hair. When we got to the room and I tried to DFK, she refused. Also told me that none of the gals there liked to DFK. Kind of a deal killer for me, so I told her thanks but no thanks and left. Guess I need to try some gals at Som's.
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[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2108979]As referenced recently with a L0 lita's provider, some of the BJ girls rim. Does Nan?[/QUOTE]
Yes. Rimming, DFK (not necessarily in that order), takes it fairly deep (though not necessarily DT), and slurps nicely. She's friendly and takes her time. Told me she does some naughtier stuff as well (like g**den showers) if you're into that, ask (I'm not). She's manages to be super-naughty and friendly GFE at the same time.
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[QUOTE=Phazze93;2107225]Yes will most likely be negotiating for a 2nd pop IF I feel I can muster it. And no shame here. Admittedly, if the girl is smokin' hot, it will definitely be hard to contain my excitement & I don't mind letting her know that.
As for my intent with P4P. I'm actually not doing it much for the GFE. I actually WANT it to be a bit more mechanical / transactional. Not going to lie. Currently, paying for sex gives me a sense of "total control" that turns me on more than a GFE. I honestly don't think a GFE will ever be better for me until I meet "the one" meant for me. I know this approach differs from others here who enjoy GFE, but I'm more in the P4 P scene to simply satisfy the carnal need of sex rather than the emotional. (for now at least)....
[/QUOTE]I think it's important to clarify what "total control" means in this situation.
I also feel much more confident and in control, when I pay the lady, and she accepts my money. But this control isn't over the girl. This control is over my own feelings.
Because when I pay the lady as much as she asks, and she accepts my money, then this formal transaction is also formal consent. She agrees to have sex with me in a reasonable way. Her consent is like a promise that she won't change her mind, and she will let me do it with her from start to finish, as long as I do it with her in a reasonable way and don't hurt her in any way.
And you don't have any strong consent like this in a normal situation, where the lady is doing it for free and there is no transaction. Her consent is much more uncertain. She gives you no promise that she won't end it on a whim, without a good reason. And that's what often makes guys feel insecure in this kind of a situation. Which makes sex with the lady less enjoyable.
There is a big difference between doing it with the lady, when you feel sure and secure and when you feel uncertain and insecure. The first is much more enjoyable than the second.
When the lady has fully and truly consented with you, then you can be reasonably sure that she won't change her mind, unless you do something seriously wrong. And this enables you to relax and fully enjoy your sex with this lady, without any worries.
And for me, this is actually what GFE is all about. When I feel secure with the lady, and I enjoy it with her, then this is the GFE experience for me.
Because this is the kind of experience I would have with an ideal girlfriend, who is very nice with me, and who doesn't give me any reason to feel insecure and anxious with her. Which is possible, but not very common. Quite often couples have arguments, disagreements, and tensions, which make one or both feel unsure and insecure with each other.