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If you mean this post, it wasn't about reporting about BBBJ or not.
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Here it is. I did get the color of the lettering wrong though. It's blue not red.
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[QUOTE=Myrrh;2057762]Wanking is an all-time great on these pages. He was one of the first on this internet forum to spread the word and actively promote AO activity and AO clubs. So, it is good to see that he is doing it right up to the end.
The point is who sets the rules here? Who is the authority on these pages who imposes the deadline as to the best time that we should cease discussing AO activity altogether.
Is it 4 years ago when the idea of a new law was first mooted?
Is it 3 years ago when it was confirmed that a new law was being drafted.
Is it 2 years ago when the law was going through parliament.
Is it 1 year ago when the new law was confirmed as having being passed.
Is it 6 months, 3 months, 1 month, 1 week before the new law comes into effect.
What I do know is that about 2 months ago a couple of people on the board seemed to have decided for the rest of us that we should cease discussion of AO sex from that point. Others sheepishly agreed. Why that particular point?.[/QUOTE]First of all, we should all strictly be against AO, the risk is too high. Life is too beautiful why should we put yourself in danger just for 5 minutes may be better sex. I still believe that step by step the new law will be implemented every where in Germany.
Thanks. Nobody was encouraging users not to post information. Members should decide for themselves what is best for them and others if they want to get good service and BBBJ.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2057904]Thanks. Nobody was encouraging users not to post information. Members should decide for themselves what is best for them and others if they want to get good service and BBBJ.
HB.[/QUOTE]Coulndt agree more, members can post openminded without anyone trying to prevent that or flaming the post. If its not within rules, only admin of this site will point that out noone else.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2055106]It's all covered sex from yesterday.
HB.[/QUOTE]So Dietzenbach and World, that is 2 out of 3. I still think things will change at World once things settle down and they don't want to see their business go to hell. Could you tell us or at least me what the 3rd club is. Anyhow I don't fancy places like Dietzenbach.
Just a friendly chat between you and me and not an intense argument. I think theoretically, I am not 100% sure what will happen here, but I am guess based upon previous experiences. Legality has little to do with the availability of BBBJ, but the attitude of the girls with what they are comfortable with health wise and what they can exploit for advantage does.
In the Czech Republic, BBBJ by sex workers is totally legal, however many Czech girls are paranoid about catching diseases from it, so they won't offer it for any amount of money. In Austria it is also fully legal but somewhat less available than Germany. Unlike in German clubs a few girls, 10 - 15% will never do it because of their attitudes.
Also even though there is far more money floating around in Germany, think Frankfurt and Munich, things are costlier in Austrian clubs and there are more opportunities for upselling, Austrians are easier to upsell than Germans perhaps.
So like another poster stated I think market dynamics and expectations are what drive things and not laws. Within a closed room itself this law will not be enforced, some clubs are paranoid about the legal implications but not aware yet of the market implications to their business.
Other clubs, ie Dietzenbach, have so much to hide that this is just the tip of the iceberg, I am not surprised crappy RTC clubs would enforce the rules more vigorously.
What is the 3rd club?
[QUOTE=AznNick;2058041]Coulndt agree more, members can post openminded without anyone trying to prevent that or flaming the post. If its not within rules, only admin of this site will point that out noone else.[/QUOTE]You didn't really read me correctly. I still have the opinion that BBBJ should not be reported about here. Doesn't matter if it is ok for the board to mention it. It's about the consequences it has for mongers in Germany.
Delta: I wasn't talking about Dietzenbach and World. It was World and two other clubs.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2058070]You didn't really read me correctly. I still have the opinion that BBBJ should not be reported about here. Doesn't matter if it is ok for the board to mention it. It's about the consquences it has for mongers in Germany.
Delta: I wasn't talking about Dietzenbach and World. It was World and two other clubs.
HB.[/QUOTE]Fair enough, everyone having an opinion. I still find sharing info about BBBJ usefull information to tourist outside of Germany and the many anonym readers.
[QUOTE=AznNick;2058073]Fair enough, everyone having an opinion. I still find sharing info about BBBJ usefull information to tourist outside of Germany and the many anonym readers.[/QUOTE]Totally agree sharing information on BBBJ is useful information, even for the local Germans who seem to only go to one club and no others.
It really seems like censorship by the few.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2058116]It is not. It will lead to a situation where BBBJ will be gone everywhere. I guess this is my last attempt to try to make that point clear. I hope the influence of ISG on service is as miniscule as the brains of those who insist on reporting about BBBJ.
HB.[/QUOTE]Nice attempt, but the reports Will always be posted, I just hope admins will shut those of them flaming the legit reports of BBBJ Down. BBBJ will always be there, legal or not in the club, some girls always like an extra or a nice tip, some girls might be affraid of new law and some girls don't give a fuck when inside room. Noone is the same, just like you and me and thank god for that LOL.
[QUOTE=AznNick;2058131]Nice attempt, but the reports Will always be posted, I just hope admins will shut those of them flaming the legit reports of BBBJ Down. BBBJ will always be there, legal or not in the club, some girls always like an extra or a nice tip, some girls might be affraid of new law and some girls don't give a fuck when inside room. Noone is the same, just like you and me and thank god for that LOL.[/QUOTE]Fully agree with you, very good summary.
Well surely someone has been since July 1st? Please pm me with latest info if you don't want to share here?
If its the same as it was in June I would gladly visit again. If its all top coats only well I won't.
I think a few visits to Dietz combined with the Frankfurt RLD makes a decent trip, had some ok quickies there for 25. Plus I still want to try Treff 188.
[QUOTE=Wanking;2059473]Well surely someone has been since July 1st? Please pm me with latest info if you don't want to share here?
If its the same as it was in June I would gladly visit again. If its all top coats only well I won't.
I think a few visits to Dietz combined with the Frankfurt RLD makes a decent trip, had some ok quickies there for 25. Plus I still want to try Treff 188.[/QUOTE]I just got a reply the other day from a German fellow, he went last week. According to him the club and the girls are 100% compliant with the new law. He was warned by one of the girls that merely asking for uncovered will get you thrown out of the club. He left on his own without going with a girl after 60 minutes of extreme boredom.
[QUOTE=DFWdude;2059504]I just got a reply the other day from a German fellow, he went last week. According to him the club and the girls are 100% compliant with the new law. He was warned by one of the girls that merely asking for uncovered will get you thrown out of the club. He left on his own without going with a girl after 60 minutes of extreme boredom.[/QUOTE]And why would he not post this here? Don't trust the Germans, because a lot of Germans are spreading lies to make the clubs look clean on the internet, so they still secretly can have their fun.
[QUOTE=DFWdude;2059504]I just got a reply the other day from a German fellow, he went last week. According to him the club and the girls are 100% compliant with the new law. He was warned by one of the girls that merely asking for uncovered will get you thrown out of the club. He left on his own without going with a girl after 60 minutes of extreme boredom.[/QUOTE]Wow! That would suck big time to go there with no one pretty enough to have sex with! The AO part made them more "attractive" even Diana with her slightly lazy left eye!
I think I'll save my money and skip going this Fall (and maybe skip going to Germany for a while). At least I could get a BBBJ at Inez's at Elko, Nevada, even though they're mostly Asian chicks! So when does Merkel leave office? Some one has to take charge, change the stupid condom law, move the refugees out, and make Germany great again!