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[QUOTE=Jonners; 1271857]Thank-you Gentleman Tavel. Yes it was great fun shooting those scenes, I enjoy getting the girls to dress up and actually the girls I have shot really enjoy it as well. Some girls are prepared to do almost anything but some girls won't and it takes time and talking with the girls to find out what they will do. Inevitably the more they will do the more expensive the scene is.

Plantmagic. As you very rightly make the point, it is getting the access to the girls that is the problem! If you are able to do this. Direct to the girls. Then all the best to you, but seeing as you have contacted me in the past to discuss organising it, it does not appear that you had much success in that?

Also I am afraid you are not correct how much the girls get for shooting a scene. And, crucially, if you are going via an agency they will add a cut, that's just business after all. They supply a service which is access, and that is valuable.

Anyway for those that do want to do shoot their own movies (and I would stress my experience that this is very different to escorting or going to salons) please contact me, I can put you in touch with the guys I used who I trust and will use again. As I have noted in the scenes I posted I have my own adult sites that I use these scenes for.[/QUOTE]Hi, Jonnes.

I'm afraid I wasn't able to find how to send you a private message.

I'd love to have more of the information you are kindly offering.

I love Slavic girls, and their wild sexuality. Furthermore some enjoy the idea of being x-actress.

I have some experience with photography, but none with filming. A Russian photographer and filmer, has offered me his expertise. He seems nice, but.

If I understood well, you are distributing / showing your films, where? I'd like to find amateur films too.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Jonners; 1271857]Thank-you Gentleman Tavel. Yes it was great fun shooting those scenes, I enjoy getting the girls to dress up and actually the girls I have shot really enjoy it as well. Some girls are prepared to do almost anything but some girls won't and it takes time and talking with the girls to find out what they will do. Inevitably the more they will do the more expensive the scene is.

Plantmagic. As you very rightly make the point, it is getting the access to the girls that is the problem! If you are able to do this. Direct to the girls. Then all the best to you, but seeing as you have contacted me in the past to discuss organising it, it does not appear that you had much success in that?

Also I am afraid you are not correct how much the girls get for shooting a scene. And, crucially, if you are going via an agency they will add a cut, that's just business after all. They supply a service which is access, and that is valuable.

Anyway for those that do want to do shoot their own movies (and I would stress my experience that this is very different to escorting or going to salons) please contact me, I can put you in touch with the guys I used who I trust and will use again. As I have noted in the scenes I posted I have my own adult sites that I use these scenes for.[/QUOTE]Jonners,

I enjoy reading your reports too and appreciated a lot. I read again and again. That 3some is really awesome. And the 3rd scene with Kate really make me want to jump into that scene LOL. How can you find such beautifull babes which willing to do many things.

Maybe if others amateurs who want to make their own movies can join together, so they can shoot each other, while the other make actions. So not too many POV shoot and also this can eliminate the cost for the cameraman (just a thought).

BTW, your PM no longer can received messages. Are the inbox full or there's something else?

Thank you.

Hi Hbengkok.

Many thanks for your comments.

I think my subscription had run out which is why I was not able to accept PMs I have now renewed it so you should be able to send now. If you have any problems please post and let me know.

In respect of the cameraman I would strongly suggest that you do use a St Petersburg cameraman for at least your first few scenes. Although you may save some money but shooting yourself or getting a friend to shoot there are a number of reasons why, in my experience, you should use one.

The most important reason is that the girls you will shoot will all know what they can earn escorting rather than shooting porn (some of the girls you shoot will escort in for example Paris where clients will pay upto €250 an hour (as Plantmagic points out) and in Dubai even more). Therefore if they think that you are not really shooting porn they will expect to be paid escorting rates. The cameraman will help you as he will know the girls (having filmed them before) and relax them, he will also bring a good camera and lights which makes it look like a proper porn studio and will make you look professional in front of the girl. This will reduce the possibility of an argument and everything going wrong. This almost happened to me when I was shooting a scene and I was glad I had the cameraman there to persuade the girl to film.

Also with a professional videocamera, lights and someone who has filmed adult movies before and so knows the what the best shots are you will get a much better film for your collection than trying to do it yourself or getting friends to do it.

The cameraman will take the pressure off you as performer. Without one you will need to think of everything. Explain your scenario to the girl make sure that you move positions at the right time and concentrate on how you look for the camera. With a professional cameraman he will take a lot of this off you and will act as director as well as cameraman allowing you to concentrate on performing in the scene and more importanantly enjoying yourself. Which is after all what you are paying for.

Once you have done a few scenes the girls will start getting to know you and you will also look like a professional performer and the cameraman is less necessary.

[QUOTE=Hbengkok; 1272175]Jonners,

I enjoy reading your reports too and appreciated a lot. I read again and again. That 3some is really awesome. And the 3rd scene with Kate really make me want to jump into that scene LOL. How can you find such beautifull babes which willing to do many things.

Maybe if others amateurs who want to make their own movies can join together, so they can shoot each other, while the other make actions. So not too many POV shoot and also this can eliminate the cost for the cameraman (just a thought).

BTW, your PM no longer can received messages. Are the inbox full or there's something else?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

Hi Jonners,

Now seems make sense to me, why we should use a cameraman instead of doing ourself. Yes POV and self shooting have very limited visions. Also the cameraman can direct and make next contacts.

I still don't understand how the girls cost cheaper than if they are escorting, but because that's good in our side, no problem at all.

ANyway, thanks a lot for your answer. Hope I can follow your footstep by the end of this year.

[QUOTE=Jonners; 1272568]Hi Hbengkok.

Many thanks for your comments.

I think my subscription had run out which is why I was not able to accept PMs I have now renewed it so you should be able to send now. If you have any problems please post and let me know.

In respect of the cameraman I would strongly suggest that you do use a St Petersburg cameraman for at least your first few scenes. Although you may save some money but shooting yourself or getting a friend to shoot there are a number of reasons why, in my experience, you should use one.

The most important reason is that the girls you will shoot will all know what they can earn escorting rather than shooting porn (some of the girls you shoot will escort in for example Paris where clients will pay upto €250 an hour (as Plantmagic points out) and in Dubai even more). Therefore if they think that you are not really shooting porn they will expect to be paid escorting rates. The cameraman will help you as he will know the girls (having filmed them before) and relax them, he will also bring a good camera and lights which makes it look like a proper porn studio and will make you look professional in front of the girl. This will reduce the possibility of an argument and everything going wrong. This almost happened to me when I was shooting a scene and I was glad I had the cameraman there to persuade the girl to film.

Also with a professional videocamera, lights and someone who has filmed adult movies before and so knows the what the best shots are you will get a much better film for your collection than trying to do it yourself or getting friends to do it.

The cameraman will take the pressure off you as performer. Without one you will need to think of everything. Explain your scenario to the girl make sure that you move positions at the right time and concentrate on how you look for the camera. With a professional cameraman he will take a lot of this off you and will act as director as well as cameraman allowing you to concentrate on performing in the scene and more importanantly enjoying yourself. Which is after all what you are paying for.

Once you have done a few scenes the girls will start getting to know you and you will also look like a professional performer and the cameraman is less necessary.[/QUOTE]

Hello everybody,

I am new to this forum, I am planning a trip to Saint Petersburg and hope somebody can help me by answering this question. In websites such as Rusdosug or Putana. Ru many girls are offering fisting as a regular service. Not only vaginal fisting, but even anal fisting. It is a fact that in pornography fisters are almost invariably Russians, but are regular prostitutes really providing this service? Or are the girls in Rusdosug just cheating? Has anybody been looking for fister girls in Saint Petersburg?

Thank you very much in advance.

Aldo

Hi Aldo

I would be very surprised if the girls off rusdosug etc are providing fisting. Very often all the services will be ticked to gain interest but they will not be provided. Given that CBJ is the norm with prostitutes in Piter it makes me even more suspicious. In respect of porn which I know more about if you talk to a lot of the porn girls in piter they will not do fisting. Those that will often say they will only do with a girl and also not anal fisting. There are of course exceptions to this and these girls you will see time and again in these scenes.

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Aldo C; 1274995]Hello everybody,

I am new to this forum, I am planning a trip to Saint Petersburg and hope somebody can help me by answering this question. In websites such as Rusdosug or Putana. Ru many girls are offering fisting as a regular service. Not only vaginal fisting, but even anal fisting. It is a fact that in pornography fisters are almost invariably Russians, but are regular prostitutes really providing this service? Or are the girls in Rusdosug just cheating? Has anybody been looking for fister girls in Saint Petersburg?

Thank you very much in advance.

Aldo[/QUOTE]

thank you jonners. i think you are right about rusdosug; in some cases a girl has ticked "fisting anal" but not "fisting vaginal", which makes no sense. so i assume that also "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url] in" is a service they tick only to gain interest, but they do not provide. as for fisting in porn, i also like gir-girl action and self-fisting. i am referring to the movies shot by giorgio grandi ([url]www.dildoandfisting.com[/url]) and to russian girls such as alysa, giuliana grandi, sasha rose etc. do you think it is possibile to meet and have sex with a specific porn actress, such as the ones i mentioned?

thanks.

aldo

[quote=jonners; 1275464]hi aldo

i would be very surprised if the girls off rusdosug etc are providing fisting. very often all the services will be ticked to gain interest but they will not be provided. given that cbj is the norm with prostitutes in piter it makes me even more suspicious. in respect of porn which i know more about if you talk to a lot of the porn girls in piter they will not do fisting. those that will often say they will only do with a girl and also not anal fisting. there are of course exceptions to this and these girls you will see time and again in these scenes.

hope this helps.[/quote]

I'm curious. It seems that with a porn shoot that oral without condom and sex without condom is the norm but it seems most girls on the various sites advertise oral with condom as standard. Why is that and should I assume sex with condom is standard? Is oral and sex without condom typically an additional fee?

This is my first time on the Russia board but I try to contribute in the other places I have visited.

Thanks for any info you give.

Hi Aldo. Yummy. I will try and answer both your posts in this post.

Aldo. Interesting I have looked at Giorgio Grandi's site in the past and noticed it has not been updated for a long time. However I know that he is still shooting in Piter as the girls tell me that they have shot with him. I do not know where he is posting his movies now. As for meeting, having sex with and shooting a movie with specific actresses yes this may be possible (I will explain later). I would stress that if you want only to meet and have sex without shooting I cannot help you with as this is escorting and not something I have experience of.

It is not possible to guarantee that a particular girl will be in Piter so you could arrange everything to shoot a particular girl and at the last moment you find out she has flown out to shoot for a big studio or has family problems or has retired, so you cannot shoot her and you have to shoot another girl. Therefore it is better not dream of just shooting one girl. The girls only stay in the business a very short time. Of the girls I shot and posted I have found out recently that 2 have since retired! Of the girls you mention Juliana Grandi retired many years ago. I do not know alysa so I assume she is also retired. However Sasha Rose is still shooting I think.

Yummy. The Porn industry and prostitution (both salons and escorts) in Piter are very different. I do not know the reason why in salons it is very hard to find a girl who will do blowjob without condom but the girls do say it is for health reasons. You may be able to find a girl who does it without with escorts it is more likely but again in Piter even here most do it with. In the Porn industry all the male actors have to have medical tests so there is less of a risk. However at the ned of the day in the porn industry the girls would not get any work if they did covered whereas in the salons they still seem to have plenty of work.

I have to say uncovered sex I have never heard of in salons or with escorts but then again I have never asked for it as the girls will not have medical tests.

Thanks, Jonners, for the realistic picture. I understand that getting what I want would be difficult, even with your help, since I would only stay in St. Petersburg for a short time and I have no experience in shooting movies.

I am new to this forum and I don't know your movies yet. Where do you post them?

It's good to know that Sasha Rose is still in business. As for Alysa, I noticed that her website in the 21sextury portal has not been updated in months, so maybe she has retired.

Aldo

[QUOTE=Jonners; 1278604]Hi Aldo. Yummy. I will try and answer both your posts in this post.

Aldo. Interesting I have looked at Giorgio Grandi's site in the past and noticed it has not been updated for a long time. However I know that he is still shooting in Piter as the girls tell me that they have shot with him. I do not know where he is posting his movies now. As for meeting, having sex with and shooting a movie with specific actresses yes this may be possible (I will explain later). I would stress that if you want only to meet and have sex without shooting I cannot help you with as this is escorting and not something I have experience of.

It is not possible to guarantee that a particular girl will be in Piter so you could arrange everything to shoot a particular girl and at the last moment you find out she has flown out to shoot for a big studio or has family problems or has retired, so you cannot shoot her and you have to shoot another girl. Therefore it is better not dream of just shooting one girl. The girls only stay in the business a very short time. Of the girls I shot and posted I have found out recently that 2 have since retired! Of the girls you mention Juliana Grandi retired many years ago. I do not know alysa so I assume she is also retired. However Sasha Rose is still shooting I think.

Yummy. The Porn industry and prostitution (both salons and escorts) in Piter are very different. I do not know the reason why in salons it is very hard to find a girl who will do blowjob without condom but the girls do say it is for health reasons. You may be able to find a girl who does it without with escorts it is more likely but again in Piter even here most do it with. In the Porn industry all the male actors have to have medical tests so there is less of a risk. However at the ned of the day in the porn industry the girls would not get any work if they did covered whereas in the salons they still seem to have plenty of work.

I have to say uncovered sex I have never heard of in salons or with escorts but then again I have never asked for it as the girls will not have medical tests.[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

This is my first post and first time in Russia. I just want to share my experience that may be useful to new visitors, here it goes.

First of all, you need a cell phone. I only visited salons listed on rusdosug. Com and amurworld. Com and most of the time only the phone number and the metro station are shown. You need to call them and they will tell you the street and building number. When I called, I would say hi and then confirmed that the Metro station is correct. Then, I would ask for the street and building number by saying "Ulitsa (pronounce Oo-lit-sa). Since my Russian is limited, I usually have no idea what street it is when they tell me over the phone. What I do is recording the conversation and listening to it again while trying to find it on Google Maps.

Once you arrive the address, call again and ask for the apartment number within the building. Most of the time, you dial the apartment number and they will buzz you in. But sometimes, you need to dial a different door code and walk into the courtyard, then dial the apartment number to be buzzed in. Note that Russian buildings are huge and some have more than one entrance. The process requires time, patience, and hopefully luck (in the form of English speaker) but sometimes it is worth it.

Now the reports:

Grand Deluxe near Mayaskaya Metro station.

There were 4 girls to choose from on the Friday I visited. I think it was around 7 pm. I chose a 24 yo tall blonde. Slim and flat stomach (my type). Small breasts with pale pink nipples. She didn't speak English but was friendly and pleasant. Covered BJ, multiple positions, no kissing. I didn't ask for any extra. Overall pleasant experience. Cost 3, 000 Rubles for 1 hour.

Royal Deluxe.

If you go to intimspb. Ru, you will see that this is part of same chain as Grand Delxue. This one is a little bit further from Nevsky Prospekt than Grand Delxue. The quality and quantity of girls are about the same as Grand Deluxe but they charge 4, 000 Rubles for 1 hour. I passed.

Premium.

Part of the intimspb. Ru as well. I went there around midnight during a weekday. Cheaper than 2, 500 Rubles but I didn't see anyone I liked.

Perchik near Moskovskaya Metro station.

There were 5 girls around 8 pm on the Wednesday I visited. I chose Masha and she's on the website. The pictures matched. No English but more talkative and playful than the blonde at Grand Deluxe. She looked me in the eyes which was nice. Cost 2, 000 Rubles for 1 hour.

Overall, I like Perchik the best and I tried to go back again a few days later. Not sure why, but the manager was not helpful like the first time. I arrived and dialed the apartment number, and the manager yelled at me in Russian and would not let me in. I thought may be because I didn't call first so the next day I called an hour before going there, but she kept hanging up on me. I went anyway and dialed the apartment number asking in English "Can I come in?" She flatly said no in Russian. This was way more frustrating than when I was on the phone for 10 minutes with the manager walking around the building trying to find this place for the first time. My guess is it was a different manager and she just would not deal with non-Russian. Anyone has any thoughts on this? Should I say certain phrases? I would like to go back again as I like to see other girls on their website.

[QUOTE=SWorld; 1280616]Hi all,

This is my first post and first time in Russia. I just want to share my experience that may be useful to new visitors, here it goes.

Perchik near Moskovskaya Metro station.

Overall, I like Perchik the best and I tried to go back again a few days later. Not sure why, but the manager was not helpful like the first time. I arrived and dialed the apartment number, and the manager yelled at me in Russian and would not let me in. I thought may be because I didn't call first so the next day I called an hour before going there, but she kept hanging up on me. I went anyway and dialed the apartment number asking in English "Can I come in?" She flatly said no in Russian. This was way more frustrating than when I was on the phone for 10 minutes with the manager walking around the building trying to find this place for the first time. My guess is it was a different manager and she just would not deal with non-Russian. Anyone has any thoughts on this? Should I say certain phrases? I would like to go back again as I like to see other girls on their website.[/QUOTE]Perchik is near Metro: Zvenigorodskaya, or is there another one?

I had the same experiences with salons, if they don't speak English they hang up or don't let you in even you have been there before.

I don't quite understand why they don't want our money?

[QUOTE=Gergiev; 1280057]Thank you, Hbengkok.

Can you explain FR, please?[/QUOTE]Sorry for late answer. FR is Field Report, or in this case / forum : Fucking Report LOL.

[QUOTE=Hbengkok;1281987]Sorry for late answer. FR is Field Report, or in this case / forum : Fucking Report LOL.[/QUOTE]HBK, thanks for the clarification.

For a number of reasons, I haven't reported on those particular experiences here.

Hello Everyone,

Well I am just back from a awesome trip to St. Petersburg. I had a great time. Being from India I had never visited any CIS country and this was my first time to Russia and so had many apprehensions in my mind about the visit and I had done fair amount of research prior to visit about the places that I will visit and some escort services that I will use and all that had paid off in the end.

OK with the report now, I was staying with my friend at Holiday Inn. It is great and totally Green Hotel.

The first night me and my friend were confused about what to do since we had checked in late in the evening we did not have to plan as to what to do, so visited the in house Bar called "XXXX" in the hotel but nothing was working out, there were girls there but none them showing any interest and me and my friend did not have the courage to ask any one of them so we were just sipping our vodkas. After some time we decided to go to the Metro Club hoping to get some action there, just as I was about to leave the bar I saw this long and average looking girl looking at me and just as I made the eye contact she smiled, I immediately knew that things will work out, so I went over to her and I got to know that she speaks English very well and told me the rate of 8000 roubles for 2 hours. This was very high so bargained hard with her and offered here 4000 roubles for 1hour each with me and my friend and she agreed.

Once in the room, as she stripped down I got the shock as the body was not as what it looked from outside and it was a turnoff however having already paid the money I asked her to give me only the massage and then BJ after which I asked her to go to my friend's room.

Second day was better and having finished off all our business meetings in the day, in the evening I thought of making use of my research done prior to the trip and called the Escort Service, where I got the rates ranging from 15000 roubles to 25000 roubles for 4 hours. I selected a girl from there website and agreed for the 15000 roubles for 4 hours at the same time my friend made his selection. So waited in our respective rooms for the girls to arrive.

The Girls arrived on the time and I was surprised to see how beautiful they were, although I have to say that mine one was not as per the photograph but she was still very beautiful and so I did not complained but my friend got the girl as per the picture. The Girl was able to speak fairly good English although not very fluent but we were pretty much able to communicate and understand each other well in very basic English.

Well I am a sort of person who like to spend time with the girl and not go straight in the action I like to spend time enjoy drink and share thoughts. But I had a great night and she left exactly after 4 hours. The quality f the girl was very good and it was very easy to deal with this escort site so we decided to use more of there services in coming days. Next day we had some time in the morning so went for the massage again courtesy to my research and we had the address of the massage place that we wanted to visit its called Alieta and we gave a ring before the visit and the woman on the phone spoke well in English and told us that there will be only the massage and no sex. I told her OK and went there, upon reaching we found that the place has a great decor and the woman at the reception showed us the album to select the girl and the price was quoted as 3500 roubles for 1 hour of body to body massage including body sliding.

Well I think I am out of time for now and will contine with this FR tommorow and I am sure this will be helpful to all those people who would be planning to visit St. Petersburg.

Thanks,