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Nice report but, you didn't try to get AF from her? According to the website her and Maki are the only 2 girls that do AF. I also recall that someone said that they do service in the shop only. The website shows that every girl is available for delivery. I'm sure if got these girls to a hotel they would offer FS.

Traffic has been slow on this board recently, but I suspect it is the new system ? I sent a few messages that seem to have been eaten by the new software problems.At any rate, I wanted to share a couple experiences. 1. Sugamo ? I found a true star in Sugamo. In the little shop called Jan Jan, on the street where most of the BJ shops are, the last one on the right ? you go downstairs. It's nicer inside than many, with long couches to enjoy the action on and plenty of fake plants to hide the various cubicles. It?s a one-girl system, but for a decent length of time ? maybe 30 minutes? Cost is 3000 or 4000 depending on the time of day and an additional fine of 4000 if you want to select the girl.I went a few times to Jan Jan. Most of the girls are very attractive (unlike the very popular Sha Raku across the street), except one (Maria) who is reasonably skillful but a bit on the heavy side for my tastes. Once I was fortunate to have a girl named Rui (I?m not sure that is exactly the name, but when I said it to the tout, he recognized it and brought out her picture). After the first time, I decided to pay the penalty, because she is a real star ? worth the extra yen. She gives an intense GFE with lots of hot kissing, sitting in your lap (and teasing you with FS near misses), and then a very nice, slow, deep BJ ? the closest I have experienced to a real deep throat in Japan. Rui is tall, thin, wears a bikini in the shop, and has rebuilt breasts ? to look at her, you would not guess she is as sexy as she really is. But she is indeed (at least for me) a very hot item. Worth a visit to try if you like something a little more in your BJs.2. Went to Nishi Kawaguchi a couple of times after reading others' reports. Many places there are estes or healths. I didn?t find any soaps that would accept foreigners, even though I tried going into Wife. Once I also ended up at the same place mentioned by Member 2722 and ?Homer 69, ?Free Pass?. As they say, YMMV ? I was not charged the selection penalty, but was directed to Kana also (my impression is that she is the gaijin server there) but found her a bit less desirable than did Homer69 ? she had a cold that night and was rather lackluster in just about every respect. She did give a half-hearted massage, but it was not much fun and I would not go back there. I also went to another place in Nishi Kawaguchi ? ?18? (written in katakana) and about a block further from the station than Free Pass. It's a Chinese place, and there is both a man and a woman who attract business. The man speaks some English and is very nice. He showed me pictures from which I could select any girl. I asked him for his recommendation, and he suggested Yukino. Indeed, she was excellent. Enthusiastic in the shower, massage and in FS. I was her first American ? and she saw me as rather larger than anyone she had experienced, which seemed to both scare her a little, but intrigue overpowered the fear and we had a pretty wonderful time. This whole size thing is pretty amusing to me ? I am a very typical size for an American, and from what I have seen in saunas, I am about average for Japanese too. They just aren?t that different. Maybe when we get hard we are different? Amount of size increase can be different I suppose. At any rate, Yukino was great fun, and I?ll go back to her for sure.3. An owner of a restaurant I tried in Nishi Kawaguchi told me that there are also lots of similar places in Kinshicho and Komeido ? places I haven?t heard mention of here. So I decided to try it. Went to Kinshicho (which is between Tokyo and Funabashi on the Soba line). On one side of the station (sorry I forgot to notice which) I found a lot of shops right near the station, as well as many pubs and show bars ? mostly Phillipine. I met a tout who spoke pretty good English and settled on a massage place that had Chinese girls, amongst which I could select one. 10,000 en FS with shower and massage for 40 minutes. But the experience here was not very good ? she sent me into the shower by myself, and then gave a reasonable massage. As soon as I flipped over she started talking to me about a tip ? something I had not yet experienced in Japan. She explained that the service included honban (FS) but not guchi sabisu (BJ), and I could have that for an extra tip ? how much was I willing to pay? I refused, and we had rather boring time ? she was clearly watching the clock. And after a while, so was I. Of course, one girl in one shop may not be representative of the type of service available, but I was not inclined to run right back to Kinshicho, though I may give it a try another time to see whether I just hit a bad spot.

Gentlemen,I will be in town for 2 nights only from Sunday at the Tokyo Marriott. Given a limited budget of US$100 and a desire to do a Japanese girl, what are my best options? Has anyone tried the 10000yen girls mentioned below? Are there any other "must sees"? Unfortunately, I speak absolutely no Japanese at all. Thanks.OAH

No guarantees, but you might consider the west side (headed north from Tokyo it's the left side of the tracks) of Nishi-Kawaguchi. Just walk around and the touts will find you.The keywords you can use are these:nihonjin desu-ka?(nee-hone-jeen dess kah?) Japanese lady?honban desu-ka?(hone-bahn dess kah?) FS?ikura?(ee-ku-rah?) How much?nan-pun desu-ka(non-pune-dess-kah?)How many minutes?Take something to write on like a small pad or something. Most of the touts can read a little English but don't speak any. They are all mostly very friendly and helpful.If you take the following with you:"Nihonjin Josei?" (Japanese lady?)"Honban?" (Full Service?)"Ikura?" (How much?)"Nan pun?" (How many minutes?)and point to these, they will understand if they want your business.A lot will depend on the time of day and how busy they are. I would recomend an early or late afternoon before it gets real busy.[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Gentlemen,I will be in town for 2 nights only from Sunday at the Tokyo Marriott. Given a limited budget of US$100 and a desire to do a Japanese girl, what are my best options? Has anyone tried the 10000yen girls mentioned below? Are there any other "must sees"? Unfortunately, I speak absolutely no Japanese at all. Thanks.OAH[/QUOTE]

Good to see all of our old 'lost' posts are back up. Lots of reading to catch up on now!

I went to NYNY again yesterday afternoon. I was not disappointed. I wanted to try it again to get a second experience since my first experience was extremely positive, given the caveats. Those caveats being, no FS and a session with an older Japanese woman. Neither of those are a show-stopper for me. I'll take a good, pleasurable session with an older Japanese woman without FS over some of the FS experiences I've had in Koganecho, Kawasaki and at Chinese esutes.There is a sign on the wall inside the room that says Y5000. She explained to me that her fee is Y5K and the house fee is Y4200, hence the Y9200 total fee.If you can get by these two caveats, NYNY is really a great experience. The woman I was serviced by this time was older (I'm guessing about 45-49), probably cute when she was younger, a little pudgy but extremely friendly, and again, had a very tight and nice smelling pussy which she let me finger all I wanted while she gave me a superb BBBJ. She also spent quite a bit of time bumping, hugging, kissing and grinding, too.The bath service is excellent and it's really a nice, relaxing way to spend 50/60 minutes in a very pleasant environment, far more relaxing and stimulating (YMMV) than any of the Chinese esutes I've tried.If you're looking to score a nice, cute, young, fresh thing, then avoid this place. You will be disappointed. If you want a very relaxing, friendly, (again, YMMV) place that offers multiple dips into a bath and BBBJ and a near GFE with a woman who probably very well knows she's older and must try harder to please, then give this place a try.As I stated in a previous message, if you think of this as doing your college roommate's semi-attractive, semi-sexy mom, then you will certainly have a good time.Homer

Homer,I have been following the forum for some time now and I want to give NYNY a try. I am in Kanagawa and do not frequent Tokyo very often as I will be visiting "on the side". Could you give the directions to NYNY, its out of Ueno station right? I would be coming from Yokohama up to Tokyo. I prefer an older woman and have 9,200Y burning a hole in my pocket. Do you know what time they open? All info would be greatly appreciated and would be sure to post any intelligence gathered.Thanks

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Gentlemen,I will be in town for 2 nights only from Sunday at the Tokyo Marriott. Given a limited budget of US$100 and a desire to do a Japanese girl, what are my best options? Has anyone tried the 10000yen girls mentioned below? Are there any other "must sees"? Unfortunately, I speak absolutely no Japanese at all. Thanks.OAH[/QUOTE]I would recommend to go to Hinomaru in Shinjuku, since it is 8k (or 10k with choice of the woman from the picture menu), they accept gaijin even if you do not speak Japanese, and there is no chance to be ripoff. Just be careful of the guys in Shinjuku trying to take you to 'great places'.

The places mentioned are for the most part Chinese women, most of whom are very mechanical and often try to hit you up for a tip even though the service is not great. There are places which are 8,000 yen but they are bbbj places not FS places. Just be aware that FS places in Shinjuku which offer FS are with Chinese/Korean not Japanese girls[QUOTE=Rene02]I would recommend to go to Hinomaru in Shinjuku, since it is 8k (or 10k with choice of the woman from the picture menu), they accept gaijin even if you do not speak Japanese, and there is no chance to be ripoff. Just be careful of the guys in Shinjuku trying to take you to 'great places'.[/QUOTE]

OAH - here is my suggestion if you can afford a little more:1) Sugamo for 3000y BBBJ - It's quite interesting to experience the Pink Salon for good or bad. And here is the least expensive for the try! Check the forum for specifics.2) Koganecho for 8000y CBJ/FS - Another nearly sure thing. And you will enjoy meandering through the alleys and small streets looking at the waiting women. There are japanese providers there - a little older, but definitely japanese.3) Hinomaru <might> get you FS - especially in the morning shift, but the girls tend to be a little on the ragged side and the atmosphere doesn't really lend itself to a very pleasureable situation. More like a BJ BBS except you have poorly upholstered couches to do it on rather than rickety old rooms with stinky beds. Ugh!As Sailing mentions mpst '10k'shops around the Shinjuku, Shibuya, Ikebukuro areas tend to be staffed by Chinese or Korean. Sometimes they try to say the girls are japanese, especially to foreigners, but they aren't! And they will do everything they can to separate you from your money - 5k at a time!Otherwise - unless you absolutely know the provider it's going to be risky and difficult to get good service - especially by Japanese girl in Tokyo. Please feel free to pm me.S

Gentlemen,Thank you all for your recommendations. Unfortunately, I did not have the time to check out all the places mentioned, but I will be coming back often over the next 6 months so I will.I was fortunate to hook-up with a Chinese mamasan in Kinshicho near the hotel so I was able to communicate. She seemed quite pleased to meet a Chinese speaking gaijin. I took her for a bowl of noodles and she became my guide and gave me the rundown on the area. Although most of the providers in the area are Chinese, she managed to find a Japanese girl for me for 15k FS in my hotel room. They showed me a picture that in fact was the girl that actually turned up. It was only 13k if I did it on the premises. The Chinese girls were quoted at 10k, but I reckon could have been had cheaper.Last night, I invited the mamasan for dinner then left her off back in Kinshicho around 9:00pm. To my surprise, she came to my room at around 3:30am and spent the rest of the night for free. OAH

Kanda,What's your guess on the average age at Champs? I've had two very good experiences with older woman at NYNY but I'm willing to try Champs if the service is the same.[QUOTE=Kanda]Someone was mentioning soapland NY NY in Ueno and I just wanted to mention that I`ve been going to Champs D`Elysees, which is NYNY`s sister establishment and attached to NYNY. Much better lot of women including some surfer chicks. Still 9,200 for 50 mins.[/QUOTE]

Today I was at Shinjuku station and had an hour to kill so I took a walk through Kabukicho.Several touts accosted me. I waved off the first two but there were so many shops, it was really opverwhelming, so when I ran into the third tout I became mentally weak and I talked to him. He mumbled something about FS for 5-6k plus 3k for the room. It was too good to be true so I asked to see pictures. He was actually only a scout so at that point he ran off to get pimp daddy. Pimp daddy offered me Chinese and Korean girls for FS but said he had no pictures. I declined, holding out for Japanese. He finally rang "Momo" on the celly and asked her if she would take a foreigner. He was most generous in his description, describing me as a calm, quiet, harmless, smallish foreigner who speaks excellent Japanese. Apparently this satisfied Momo and we set the date. If I was a hairless cat I would have been perfect. He said she was very nice, a white-skinned beauty, but I would not be able to see her until we got to the hotel, which would cost 5k. Well, a slight inflation. We set off for the hotel. A really hot chick rode by us on a bicycle, young, nice tan, blond hair, huge knockers. Little Jim started to get excited. At this point I asked again for the price for the deed. He said 25K. Whoah! And the room? 30K? I told him no thanks, I can get FS in Gotanda for 15K if I have a mind to. I guess if it had been the girl on the bike...As we were walking back, he tried to interest me in Russians, 15K for nude massage followed by BJ/HJ. Well, I can get that for 10K in Gotanda. He admitted defeat and said he couldn't match those rates.At this point my hour was up, so I left. Next time I will try the Russian place see if I can talk one into FS.CJW

I am going back for my 11th trip the first week of December. It wouldbe great to have another new hookup. Maybe we can get together soem time for cocktailsCheers[QUOTE=Endowed]GuysI have a friend that just got back to Hakata from Tokyo and had some information to share but does not have a membership so I am relaying this. Ran into an independant that is 26 YO, Japanese blood, raised in the US so good english and has Japanese qualities along with US BJ capability and is used to size if you know what I mean. 5'3, 130# may be little chubby but not flabby and nice top end. She is currently a language instructor but is going to change quickly to hostess scene due to financial problems. Will do BBBJ and FS for 1.5 man and GFE. Once she enters hostess scene all this will probably change. I have email contact available for senior members or members who post to this site regularly only. I will delete this post within one week as I don't want to be flooded with PM's for the next 6 months so now is your chance.En[/QUOTE]

Homer,Haven`t had too many experiences at Champs, but I would say, in general, younger than NYNY. Last time the girl was about 25.Went to a great massage place next across from Sugamo Station close to Matsuya (beef bowl joint). Forget the name, but somewhat erotic sign outside - 8,800 for great massage and bj.